de-coupler group buy

Steve

Sounds like a really good deal then. I should have waited instead of buying the
decoupler I did, which has been problematic, mainly because of the fit of one gear,
and it wasn't cheap.

By the way, I still maintain you're getting your wires crossed thinking the decoupler
was cable operated. If you look at the VW power take-off on ETKA, check this link

http://www.elcats.ru/audivw/vag5.asp?subm=%CF%EE%E8%F1%EA&btsnr=043-
40&cid=59

you'll see it is designed to be operated by a cable, not vacuum. I don't think even VW
are that dumb to have a cable operating the vacuum servo on a decoupler, but I
suppose anything is possible.

Vinnie

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, Steve Jacobson <humanoid@b...>
wrote:
> Hi ,
>
> We've had no problems with dealing with Bernd
> Jaeger, Matti, who is corresponding with Bernd
> speaks German, so the is no language problem. We
> like Bernd's enthusiasm for the Syncro and want
> to support an enthusiast and have only read good
> feed back about his product.
>
> The price Matti has negotiated is cheaper than
> Meiers advertised price and our price includes
> shipping plus if we return the old housing we
> will get 100. back .
>
> thanks ,
>
> Steve
>
>
>
>
>
> >I am convinced that the SDP decouplers are all
> >made by the one outfit in Germany
> >somewhere. Why this company doesn't market them themselves and cut out the
> >middlemen is a mystery to me. It's easy enough to do these days thanks to the
> >Internet.
> >
> >Incidentally, it's interesting you've chosen to
> >go with Bernd Jaeger when the same
> >decoupler could be bought cheaper (1280 euros compared to 975) from Meiers,
> >www.busschmiede.de, in Germany. See this link:
> >
> ><http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://
www.busschmiede.de/>http://translate.google.com/
translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://www.busschmiede.de/
> >ersatzteile_zubehoer/zuschaltbarer_allrad.htm&prev=/
>
>search%3Fq%3DDer%2Bzuschaltbare%2BAllrad%26num%3D100%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D
%
> >26ie%3DUTF-8%26oe%3DUTF-8%26sa%3DG%26as_qdr%3Dall
> >
> >Personally I've found correspondence quite
> >difficult with Jaeger, but this crowd seem
> >to be "on the ball".
> >
> >Vinnie
> >
> >87 Syncro
> >
> >
> >
> >--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Steve" <humanoid@b...> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> the decoupler we are ordering is from Bernd
> >>Jaeger, made in Germany, it has the
> >> needle roller bearing, I feel this is a better
> >>option than a plain bearing even if it is
> >> only a belt and braces measure, as there has
> >>only been limited real world testing of
> >> the two versions it is difficult to say which is better.
> >>
> >> As for problems fitting it, I've not seen any
> >>other reports on the USA or Sth. African
> >> news groups of problems fitting them, any
> >>mechanic should be able to fit it, and
> >any
> >> competent home mechanic shouild also be able
> >>to fit it, I for one will be doing the
> >> fitting on my own van.
> >>
> >> It is vacum opperated, using readily available
> >>diff lock parts plus a few key
> >> components that reproduced from the orriginal
> >>drawings, the original cable /
> >vacum
> >> set up is very rare and nearly all of the
> >>components are no longer available.
> >>
> >> It is possible to purchase the parts as a kit
> >>from Sth Africa if you can find the
> >source.
> >>
> >> Any one with enough time and engineering knowledge could easily produce
the
> >> missing parts to create thier own decoupler. I
> >>don't have have either so my only
> >> option is to pay the asking price, this group
> >>purchase makes it alittle less of a
> >> financial stress.
> >>
> >> Currently I'm driving my Syncro with the
> >>center drive shaft removed due to an
> >> agressive VC, so I can't wait to get it
> >>installed, along with the diff locked G-box that
> >is
> >> currently being rebuilt.
> >>
> >> Steve
> >
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I have the workshop manuals for the genuine VW decoupler and it
definately has a cable that operates a valve on the front of the
gearbox. I also have the microfiche that shows all of the parts for
the decoupler which is completely seperate from the PTO. For more
information contact IG 16" in Germany as they did a lot of research
on this many years ago before aftermarket decouplers were available.
The decouplers for sale are aftermarket and not genuine Volkswagen.

Phill


--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "springfieldsyncro"
<springfieldhouse@x> wrote:
> Steve
>
> Sounds like a really good deal then. I should have waited instead
of buying the
> decoupler I did, which has been problematic, mainly because of the
fit of one gear,
> and it wasn't cheap.
>
> By the way, I still maintain you're getting your wires crossed
thinking the decoupler
> was cable operated. If you look at the VW power take-off on ETKA,
check this link
>
> http://www.elcats.ru/audivw/vag5.asp?subm=%CF%EE%E8%F1%EA&btsnr=043-
> 40&cid=59
>
> you'll see it is designed to be operated by a cable, not vacuum. I
don't think even VW
> are that dumb to have a cable operating the vacuum servo on a
decoupler, but I
> suppose anything is possible.
>
> Vinnie
>
> --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, Steve Jacobson
<humanoid@b...>
> wrote:
> > Hi ,
> >
> > We've had no problems with dealing with Bernd
> > Jaeger, Matti, who is corresponding with Bernd
> > speaks German, so the is no language problem. We
> > like Bernd's enthusiasm for the Syncro and want
> > to support an enthusiast and have only read good
> > feed back about his product.
> >
> > The price Matti has negotiated is cheaper than
> > Meiers advertised price and our price includes
> > shipping plus if we return the old housing we
> > will get 100. back .
> >
> > thanks ,
> >
> > Steve
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >I am convinced that the SDP decouplers are all
> > >made by the one outfit in Germany
> > >somewhere. Why this company doesn't market them themselves and
cut out the
> > >middlemen is a mystery to me. It's easy enough to do these days
thanks to the
> > >Internet.
> > >
> > >Incidentally, it's interesting you've chosen to
> > >go with Bernd Jaeger when the same
> > >decoupler could be bought cheaper (1280 euros compared to 975)
from Meiers,
> > >www.busschmiede.de, in Germany. See this link:
> > >
> > ><http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://
> www.busschmiede.de/>http://translate.google.com/
> translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://www.busschmiede.de/
> > >ersatzteile_zubehoer/zuschaltbarer_allrad.htm&prev=/
> >
> >search%3Fq%3DDer%2Bzuschaltbare%2BAllrad%26num%3D100%26hl%3Den%
26lr%3D
> %
> > >26ie%3DUTF-8%26oe%3DUTF-8%26sa%3DG%26as_qdr%3Dall
> > >
> > >Personally I've found correspondence quite
> > >difficult with Jaeger, but this crowd seem
> > >to be "on the ball".
> > >
> > >Vinnie
> > >
> > >87 Syncro
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Steve"
<humanoid@b...> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Hi all,
> > >>
> > >> the decoupler we are ordering is from Bernd
> > >>Jaeger, made in Germany, it has the
> > >> needle roller bearing, I feel this is a better
> > >>option than a plain bearing even if it is
> > >> only a belt and braces measure, as there has
> > >>only been limited real world testing of
> > >> the two versions it is difficult to say which is better.
> > >>
> > >> As for problems fitting it, I've not seen any
> > >>other reports on the USA or Sth. African
> > >> news groups of problems fitting them, any
> > >>mechanic should be able to fit it, and
> > >any
> > >> competent home mechanic shouild also be able
> > >>to fit it, I for one will be doing the
> > >> fitting on my own van.
> > >>
> > >> It is vacum opperated, using readily available
> > >>diff lock parts plus a few key
> > >> components that reproduced from the orriginal
> > >>drawings, the original cable /
> > >vacum
> > >> set up is very rare and nearly all of the
> > >>components are no longer available.
> > >>
> > >> It is possible to purchase the parts as a kit
> > >>from Sth Africa if you can find the
> > >source.
> > >>
> > >> Any one with enough time and engineering knowledge could
easily produce
> the
> > >> missing parts to create thier own decoupler. I
> > >>don't have have either so my only
> > >> option is to pay the asking price, this group
> > >>purchase makes it alittle less of a
> > >> financial stress.
> > >>
> > >> Currently I'm driving my Syncro with the
> > >>center drive shaft removed due to an
> > >> agressive VC, so I can't wait to get it
> > >>installed, along with the diff locked G-box that
> > >is
> > >> currently being rebuilt.
> > >>
> > >> Steve
> > >
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Phill, I stand corrected then. Those manuals are a rare and valuable resource to have.

I realise VW don't make any decouplers any more, not that they ever did actually, it
was Steyr Daimler Puch. It's great that they can still be obtained, whoever makes
them.

Just watched "Run Lola, Run". Bit of a lame movie I thought, but excellent for playing
"spot the T3".

Vinnie




--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "hdvwoc" <plander@o...> wrote:
> I have the workshop manuals for the genuine VW decoupler and it
> definately has a cable that operates a valve on the front of the
> gearbox. I also have the microfiche that shows all of the parts for
> the decoupler which is completely seperate from the PTO. For more
> information contact IG 16" in Germany as they did a lot of research
> on this many years ago before aftermarket decouplers were available.
> The decouplers for sale are aftermarket and not genuine Volkswagen.
>
> Phill
>
>
> --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "springfieldsyncro"
> <springfieldhouse@x> wrote:
> > Steve
> >
> > Sounds like a really good deal then. I should have waited instead
> of buying the
> > decoupler I did, which has been problematic, mainly because of the
> fit of one gear,
> > and it wasn't cheap.
> >
> > By the way, I still maintain you're getting your wires crossed
> thinking the decoupler
> > was cable operated. If you look at the VW power take-off on ETKA,
> check this link
> >
> > http://www.elcats.ru/audivw/vag5.asp?subm=%CF%EE%E8%F1%EA&btsnr=043-
> > 40&cid=59
> >
> > you'll see it is designed to be operated by a cable, not vacuum. I
> don't think even VW
> > are that dumb to have a cable operating the vacuum servo on a
> decoupler, but I
> > suppose anything is possible.
> >
> > Vinnie
> >
> > --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, Steve Jacobson
> <humanoid@b...>
> > wrote:
> > > Hi ,
> > >
> > > We've had no problems with dealing with Bernd
> > > Jaeger, Matti, who is corresponding with Bernd
> > > speaks German, so the is no language problem. We
> > > like Bernd's enthusiasm for the Syncro and want
> > > to support an enthusiast and have only read good
> > > feed back about his product.
> > >
> > > The price Matti has negotiated is cheaper than
> > > Meiers advertised price and our price includes
> > > shipping plus if we return the old housing we
> > > will get 100. back .
> > >
> > > thanks ,
> > >
> > > Steve
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >I am convinced that the SDP decouplers are all
> > > >made by the one outfit in Germany
> > > >somewhere. Why this company doesn't market them themselves and
> cut out the
> > > >middlemen is a mystery to me. It's easy enough to do these days
> thanks to the
> > > >Internet.
> > > >
> > > >Incidentally, it's interesting you've chosen to
> > > >go with Bernd Jaeger when the same
> > > >decoupler could be bought cheaper (1280 euros compared to 975)
> from Meiers,
> > > >www.busschmiede.de, in Germany. See this link:
> > > >
> > > ><http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://
> > www.busschmiede.de/>http://translate.google.com/
> > translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://www.busschmiede.de/
> > > >ersatzteile_zubehoer/zuschaltbarer_allrad.htm&prev=/
> > >
> > >search%3Fq%3DDer%2Bzuschaltbare%2BAllrad%26num%3D100%26hl%3Den%
> 26lr%3D
> > %
> > > >26ie%3DUTF-8%26oe%3DUTF-8%26sa%3DG%26as_qdr%3Dall
> > > >
> > > >Personally I've found correspondence quite
> > > >difficult with Jaeger, but this crowd seem
> > > >to be "on the ball".
> > > >
> > > >Vinnie
> > > >
> > > >87 Syncro
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Steve"
> <humanoid@b...> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> Hi all,
> > > >>
> > > >> the decoupler we are ordering is from Bernd
> > > >>Jaeger, made in Germany, it has the
> > > >> needle roller bearing, I feel this is a better
> > > >>option than a plain bearing even if it is
> > > >> only a belt and braces measure, as there has
> > > >>only been limited real world testing of
> > > >> the two versions it is difficult to say which is better.
> > > >>
> > > >> As for problems fitting it, I've not seen any
> > > >>other reports on the USA or Sth. African
> > > >> news groups of problems fitting them, any
> > > >>mechanic should be able to fit it, and
> > > >any
> > > >> competent home mechanic shouild also be able
> > > >>to fit it, I for one will be doing the
> > > >> fitting on my own van.
> > > >>
> > > >> It is vacum opperated, using readily available
> > > >>diff lock parts plus a few key
> > > >> components that reproduced from the orriginal
> > > >>drawings, the original cable /
> > > >vacum
> > > >> set up is very rare and nearly all of the
> > > >>components are no longer available.
> > > >>
> > > >> It is possible to purchase the parts as a kit
> > > >>from Sth Africa if you can find the
> > > >source.
> > > >>
> > > >> Any one with enough time and engineering knowledge could
> easily produce
> > the
> > > >> missing parts to create thier own decoupler. I
> > > >>don't have have either so my only
> > > >> option is to pay the asking price, this group
> > > >>purchase makes it alittle less of a
> > > >> financial stress.
> > > >>
> > > >> Currently I'm driving my Syncro with the
> > > >>center drive shaft removed due to an
> > > >> agressive VC, so I can't wait to get it
> > > >>installed, along with the diff locked G-box that
> > > >is
> > > >> currently being rebuilt.
> > > >>
> > > >> Steve
> > > >
> > > >Yahoo! Groups Sponsor
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[Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: de-coupler group buy
Hi All,

Just spoke to Lloyd at Volkwerke in Greensborough,Vic., he had been contacted this morning re fitting a de-coupler at that time he didn't know what would be involved in fitting and imagined it may be a large job. After explaining what was involved to him he now feels its not too big a job at all, I will forward some info to him early next week. He would be happy to fit it.

Steve