Deep Cycle Batteries That fit under the Passenger Seat

Hi All,
 
Now I am finally connecting up a second hand fridge I have had for the last 6 years (unused) I need to organise a deep cycle battery as starting batteries don't like the constant draw from the fridge compressor.
 
However, finding batteries that fit is a struggle.
 
My local Battery World has a VARTA (German made) battery that is an 80Amp that is of the following dimensions:
 
278mm Long x 175mm wide x 190mm high.
 
My existing battery is 280mm long x 180mm wide x 180mm high.
 
Hence it fits except the height may be an issue with the extra 10mm.
 
Has anyone fitted one of these or any other type of deep cycle battery.
 
Any help appreciated.
 
Thanks,
 
Skot
check out westyventures.com ..
karl mullendore,
he's used several small electric wheel chair batteries in series and swears by that method.
 
he may have a picture on his site even.
 
just for your inspiration, or to get good ideas.
 
scott
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 9:58 PM
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Deep Cycle Batteries That fit under the Passenger Seat

 

Hi All,
 
Now I am finally connecting up a second hand fridge I have had for the last 6 years (unused) I need to organise a deep cycle battery as starting batteries don't like the constant draw from the fridge compressor.
 
However, finding batteries that fit is a struggle.
 
My local Battery World has a VARTA (German made) battery that is an 80Amp that is of the following dimensions:
 
278mm Long x 175mm wide x 190mm high.
 
My existing battery is 280mm long x 180mm wide x 180mm high.
 
Hence it fits except the height may be an issue with the extra 10mm.
 
Has anyone fitted one of these or any other type of deep cycle battery.
 
Any help appreciated.
 
Thanks,
 
Skot

Thanks Scott.
 
Will do.
 
Cheers,
 
Skot
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 3:12 PM
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Deep Cycle Batteries That fit under the Passenger Seat

 

check out westyventures.com ..
karl mullendore,
he's used several small electric wheel chair batteries in series and swears by that method.
 
he may have a picture on his site even.
 
just for your inspiration, or to get good ideas.
 
scott
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 9:58 PM
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Deep Cycle Batteries That fit under the Passenger Seat

 

Hi All,
 
Now I am finally connecting up a second hand fridge I have had for the last 6 years (unused) I need to organise a deep cycle battery as starting batteries don't like the constant draw from the fridge compressor.
 
However, finding batteries that fit is a struggle.
 
My local Battery World has a VARTA (German made) battery that is an 80Amp that is of the following dimensions:
 
278mm Long x 175mm wide x 190mm high.
 
My existing battery is 280mm long x 180mm wide x 180mm high.
 
Hence it fits except the height may be an issue with the extra 10mm.
 
Has anyone fitted one of these or any other type of deep cycle battery.
 
Any help appreciated.
 
Thanks,
 
Skot

Scott,
When I've previously searched I couldn't find a suitable battery (capacity and Price) to put behind/under the seat, most batteries tend to be too high.

On conversions I've done I installed one battery under the rear seat and on another van I put it inside a cupboard. In both cases I put the battery in a proper battery box with a gas drop out in the bottom and through the van floor.
Even though VW put the battery unprotected inside the van if your van will be going over the pits i'd advise a proper battery box and drop out. It's also more advisable from a personal safety point of view both during normal use and during a crash.


--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Mr Scott Pitcher" <spbconsulting@...> wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> Now I am finally connecting up a second hand fridge I have had for the last 6 years (unused) I need to organise a deep cycle battery as starting batteries don't like the constant draw from the fridge compressor.
>
> However, finding batteries that fit is a struggle.
>
> My local Battery World has a VARTA (German made) battery that is an 80Amp that is of the following dimensions:
>
> 278mm Long x 175mm wide x 190mm high.
>
> My existing battery is 280mm long x 180mm wide x 180mm high.
>
> Hence it fits except the height may be an issue with the extra 10mm.
>
> Has anyone fitted one of these or any other type of deep cycle battery.
>
> Any help appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Skot
>
Thanks Craig. Duly noted.
 
Cheers,
 
Skot
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Craig
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 3:59 PM
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Deep Cycle Batteries That fit under the Passenger Seat

 

Scott,
When I've previously searched I couldn't find a suitable battery (capacity and Price) to put behind/under the seat, most batteries tend to be too high.

On conversions I've done I installed one battery under the rear seat and on another van I put it inside a cupboard. In both cases I put the battery in a proper battery box with a gas drop out in the bottom and through the van floor.
Even though VW put the battery unprotected inside the van if your van will be going over the pits i'd advise a proper battery box and drop out. It's also more advisable from a personal safety point of view both during normal use and during a crash.

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Mr Scott Pitcher" <spbconsulting@...> wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> Now I am finally connecting up a second hand fridge I have had for the last 6 years (unused) I need to organise a deep cycle battery as starting batteries don't like the constant draw from the fridge compressor.
>
> However, finding batteries that fit is a struggle.
>
> My local Battery World has a VARTA (German made) battery that is an 80Amp that is of the following dimensions:
>
> 278mm Long x 175mm wide x 190mm high.
>
> My existing battery is 280mm long x 180mm wide x 180mm high.
>
> Hence it fits except the height may be an issue with the extra 10mm.
>
> Has anyone fitted one of these or any other type of deep cycle battery.
>
> Any help appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Skot
>

Dear Skot,
The original owner of my vehicle solved the problem by deepening the battery box to 220mm under the front passenger seat. I replaced the previous deep cyle battery last year when it was over 8 years old with a Delkon deep cycle forklift truck battery.It says it is a 20hr battery (at what discharge rate?) and its minimum capacity is 145(don't know what units) and it is a MF Calcium battery.From memory it was about $140. The lid of the battery box has also been slightly hightened with spacers on the hinges.
 The extra depth widens the range of battery choice and also probably the capacity. .However if you go for this solution the extended box blocks withdrawal of the top wishbone bolt which is necessary to replace this suspension bush. Either first replace the bush as a precaution or as in my case cut a round hole in the extended battery box which allows subsequent withdrawal of the bolt and then appropriately  plug it.The battery box also has a metal plate clamping the battery tightly in position but possibly this is an original fitting. I understand it is important not to have a battery bouncing around in its box if you want an extended life from it.You'd be welcome to have a look but aren't you in NSW? Could send some photos if the idea appeals.
Good luck
Roger
--- On Thu, 16/9/10, Mr Scott Pitcher <spbconsulting@bigpond.com> wrote:

From: Mr Scott Pitcher <spbconsulting@bigpond.com>
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Deep Cycle Batteries That fit under the Passenger Seat
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Received: Thursday, 16 September, 2010, 12:58 PM

 
Hi All,
 
Now I am finally connecting up a second hand fridge I have had for the last 6 years (unused) I need to organise a deep cycle battery as starting batteries don't like the constant draw from the fridge compressor.
 
However, finding batteries that fit is a struggle.
 
My local Battery World has a VARTA (German made) battery that is an 80Amp that is of the following dimensions:
 
278mm Long x 175mm wide x 190mm high.
 
My existing battery is 280mm long x 180mm wide x 180mm high.
 
Hence it fits except the height may be an issue with the extra 10mm.
 
Has anyone fitted one of these or any other type of deep cycle battery.
 
Any help appreciated.
 
Thanks,
 
Skot

 

Thanks Roger.
 
I need to sort this in 2 weeks. I looked at the site provided by Scott from Turbovans and found an Odyssey 44A/h battery fits with code number PC1200 and some other numbers that were hard to read from the photo 0766.2025 0906.
 
I am going to try for this.
 
I copied a photo of the multiple small battery setup he also used in another van in series which is also a good idea but difficult for me to sort in the remaining time I have available.
 
I will try and source an Odyssey from battery world.
 
I checked the Varta battery he originally suggested and its way too high - by about 15mm.
 
Thanks for all the help though.
 
Cheers,
 
Skot
----- Original Message -----
From: Roger Bell
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 12:41 AM
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Deep Cycle Batteries That fit under the Passenger Seat

 

Dear Skot,
The original owner of my vehicle solved the problem by deepening the battery box to 220mm under the front passenger seat. I replaced the previous deep cyle battery last year when it was over 8 years old with a Delkon deep cycle forklift truck battery.It says it is a 20hr battery (at what discharge rate?) and its minimum capacity is 145(don't know what units) and it is a MF Calcium battery.From memory it was about $140. The lid of the battery box has also been slightly hightened with spacers on the hinges.
 The extra depth widens the range of battery choice and also probably the capacity. .However if you go for this solution the extended box blocks withdrawal of the top wishbone bolt which is necessary to replace this suspension bush. Either first replace the bush as a precaution or as in my case cut a round hole in the extended battery box which allows subsequent withdrawal of the bolt and then appropriately  plug it.The battery box also has a metal plate clamping the battery tightly in position but possibly this is an original fitting. I understand it is important not to have a battery bouncing around in its box if you want an extended life from it.You'd be welcome to have a look but aren't you in NSW? Could send some photos if the idea appeals.
Good luck
Roger
--- On Thu, 16/9/10, Mr Scott Pitcher <spbconsulting@bigpond.com> wrote:

From: Mr Scott Pitcher <spbconsulting@bigpond.com>
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Deep Cycle Batteries That fit under the Passenger Seat
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Received: Thursday, 16 September, 2010, 12:58 PM

 
Hi All,
 
Now I am finally connecting up a second hand fridge I have had for the last 6 years (unused) I need to organise a deep cycle battery as starting batteries don't like the constant draw from the fridge compressor.
 
However, finding batteries that fit is a struggle.
 
My local Battery World has a VARTA (German made) battery that is an 80Amp that is of the following dimensions:
 
278mm Long x 175mm wide x 190mm high.
 
My existing battery is 280mm long x 180mm wide x 180mm high.
 
Hence it fits except the height may be an issue with the extra 10mm.
 
Has anyone fitted one of these or any other type of deep cycle battery.
 
Any help appreciated.
 
Thanks,
 
Skot

 

Scott,

That (44ah) sounds like a very small battery to run a fridge for long.

Optima are the better of the spiral agm batteries.
Give these guys a call. They deliver and prices are usually good. www.batteriesdirect.com.au/

Have you thought of batteries under the back seat? Or beside the engine where the diesel battery is located?



> Mr Scott Pitcher <spbconsulting@bigpond.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks Roger.
>
> I need to sort this in 2 weeks. I looked at the site provided by Scott
> from Turbovans and found an Odyssey 44A/h battery fits with code number
> PC1200 and some other numbers that were hard to read from the photo
> 0766.2025 0906.
>
> I am going to try for this.
>
> I copied a photo of the multiple small battery setup he also used in
> another van in series which is also a good idea but difficult for me to
> sort in the remaining time I have available.
>
> I will try and source an Odyssey from battery world.
>
> I checked the Varta battery he originally suggested and its way too high
> - by about 15mm.
>
> Thanks for all the help though.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Skot
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Roger Bell
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 12:41 AM
> Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Deep Cycle Batteries That fit under
> the Passenger Seat
>
>
>
> Dear Skot,
> The original owner of my vehicle solved the problem by deepening
> the battery box to 220mm under the front passenger seat. I replaced the
> previous deep cyle battery last year when it was over 8 years old with a
> Delkon deep cycle forklift truck battery.It says it is a 20hr battery
> (at what discharge rate?) and its minimum capacity is 145(don't know
> what units) and it is a MF Calcium battery.From memory it was about
> $140. The lid of the battery box has also been slightly hightened with
> spacers on the hinges.
> The extra depth widens the range of battery choice and also
> probably the capacity. .However if you go for this solution the extended
> box blocks withdrawal of the top wishbone bolt which is necessary to
> replace this suspension bush. Either first replace the bush as a
> precaution or as in my case cut a round hole in the extended battery box
> which allows subsequent withdrawal of the bolt and then appropriately
> plug it.The battery box also has a metal plate clamping the battery
> tightly in position but possibly this is an original fitting. I
> understand it is important not to have a battery bouncing around in its
> box if you want an extended life from it.You'd be welcome to have a look
> but aren't you in NSW? Could send some photos if the idea appeals.
> Good luck
> Roger
> --- On Thu, 16/9/10, Mr Scott Pitcher
> <spbconsulting@bigpond.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: Mr Scott Pitcher <spbconsulting@bigpond.com>
> Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Deep Cycle Batteries That fit
> under the Passenger Seat
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> Received: Thursday, 16 September, 2010, 12:58 PM
>
>
>
> Hi All,
>
> Now I am finally connecting up a second hand fridge I have had
> for the last 6 years (unused) I need to organise a deep cycle battery as
> starting batteries don't like the constant draw from the fridge
> compressor.
>
> However, finding batteries that fit is a struggle.
>
> My local Battery World has a VARTA (German made) battery that
> is an 80Amp that is of the following dimensions:
>
> 278mm Long x 175mm wide x 190mm high.
>
> My existing battery is 280mm long x 180mm wide x 180mm high.
>
> Hence it fits except the height may be an issue with the extra
> 10mm.
>
> Has anyone fitted one of these or any other type of deep cycle
> battery.
>
> Any help appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Skot
>
>
>
>
The only battery to suit your needs would not contain lead/acid and could cost many thousands of $.

I have heard of success with Toyota Prius batteries if you wish to search a few wreckers.



> Ken Garratt <unclekenz@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Scott,
> Concerning the topic of "camping battery", there are so many variables
> that need to be taken into account so as to arrive at what may still
> prove to only be a compromise. I fear that based upon the limited info
> you have provided so far re your own family/van circumstances,
> especially with a self imposed time limit ... I suspect you will be
> heading for a fall .... ain't gunna work m8y. Especially if you hope to
> do more than ONE day camping AWAY from ac and/or solar power and/or long
> drives to recharge but you dearly still want to avoid egg on face when
> the princesses and your better half in unison complain about the warm
> fridge and the rotting provisions. This happened to some on the Batemans
> Bay Tour 2007, despite having a larger camping battery and driving every
> day, just for starters.
>
> If I were you, I'd be deferring the decision about the fridge/camping
> battery combo until such time as you carry out a detailed research on
> this complex topic. I know hindsight is just sooooooooo great, but
> really, the pre-allocation of space for an adequate sized/type camping
> battery plus choices of supplementary battery charging systems for your
> camping needs, particularly if you need adequate multi day running of a
> fridge, all this should have been sorted/earmarked years ago near the
> start of your conversion.
>
> So at this stage, in my view, under the circumstances as you have
> described, hold off on committing to what you seem to be heading toward
> and instead till you sort this properly, limit to one day picnics and
> frozen bricks in an esky. M8y, this temp solution should work just fine.
>
>
>
> As a pretty rough rule of thumb, whatever YOU are thinking at the moment
> re camping battery size, probably triple or quadruple it and add 160
> watt minimum solar!
>
> Good luck. Cheers.
>
> Ken
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> From: plander@optusnet.com.au
> Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 10:12:54 +1000
> Subject: Re: Re: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Deep Cycle Batteries That fit
> under the Passenger Seat
>
>
>
>
>
>
> There is no joy there without major modifications.
> I haven't seen a deep cycle that will fit. 280L x 175W x 175H
>
> I use a Federal 691MF but I don't have a fridge to deep cycle it.
>
> A 44ah may only work your fridge for a few hours.
>
> > Mr Scott Pitcher <spbconsulting@bigpond.com> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks Phill.
> >
> > My Subaru 6cyl has various bits in these holes and hence it wont work.
>
> > My under seat area is also full. Under the front passenger seat is my
> > only option.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Skot
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: plander@optusnet.com.au
> > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 8:10 AM
> > Subject: Re: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Deep Cycle Batteries That fit
> > under the Passenger Seat
> >
> >
> >
> > Scott,
> >
> > That (44ah) sounds like a very small battery to run a fridge for long.
> >
> > Optima are the better of the spiral agm batteries.
> > Give these guys a call. They deliver and prices are usually good.
> > www.batteriesdirect.com.au/
> >
> > Have you thought of batteries under the back seat? Or beside the
> > engine where the diesel battery is located?
> >
> > > Mr Scott Pitcher <spbconsulting@bigpond.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanks Roger.
> > >
> > > I need to sort this in 2 weeks. I looked at the site provided by
> > Scott
> > > from Turbovans and found an Odyssey 44A/h battery fits with code
> > number
> > > PC1200 and some other numbers that were hard to read from the photo
> > > 0766.2025 0906.
> > >
> > > I am going to try for this.
> > >
> > > I copied a photo of the multiple small battery setup he also used in
>
> >
> > > another van in series which is also a good idea but difficult for me
>
> > to
> > > sort in the remaining time I have available.
> > >
> > > I will try and source an Odyssey from battery world.
> > >
> > > I checked the Varta battery he originally suggested and its way too
> > high
> > > - by about 15mm.
> > >
> > > Thanks for all the help though.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > > Skot
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Roger Bell
> > > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 12:41 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Deep Cycle Batteries That fit
> > under
> > > the Passenger Seat
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Dear Skot,
> > > The original owner of my vehicle solved the problem by deepening
> > > the battery box to 220mm under the front passenger seat. I replaced
> > the
> > > previous deep cyle battery last year when it was over 8 years old
> > with a
> > > Delkon deep cycle forklift truck battery.It says it is a 20hr
> > battery
> > > (at what discharge rate?) and its minimum capacity is 145(don't know
>
> >
> > > what units) and it is a MF Calcium battery.From memory it was about
> > > $140. The lid of the battery box has also been slightly hightened
> > with
> > > spacers on the hinges.
> > > The extra depth widens the range of battery choice and also
> > > probably the capacity. .However if you go for this solution the
> > extended
> > > box blocks withdrawal of the top wishbone bolt which is necessary to
>
> >
> > > replace this suspension bush. Either first replace the bush as a
> > > precaution or as in my case cut a round hole in the extended battery
>
> > box
> > > which allows subsequent withdrawal of the bolt and then
> > appropriately
> > > plug it.The battery box also has a metal plate clamping the battery
> > > tightly in position but possibly this is an original fitting. I
> > > understand it is important not to have a battery bouncing around in
> > its
> > > box if you want an extended life from it.You'd be welcome to have a
> > look
> > > but aren't you in NSW? Could send some photos if the idea appeals.
> > > Good luck
> > > Roger
> > > --- On Thu, 16/9/10, Mr Scott Pitcher
> > > <spbconsulting@bigpond.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > From: Mr Scott Pitcher <spbconsulting@bigpond.com>
> > > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Deep Cycle Batteries That fit
> > > under the Passenger Seat
> > > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > > Received: Thursday, 16 September, 2010, 12:58 PM
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi All,
> > >
> > > Now I am finally connecting up a second hand fridge I have had
> > > for the last 6 years (unused) I need to organise a deep cycle
> > battery as
> > > starting batteries don't like the constant draw from the fridge
> > > compressor.
> > >
> > > However, finding batteries that fit is a struggle.
> > >
> > > My local Battery World has a VARTA (German made) battery that
> > > is an 80Amp that is of the following dimensions:
> > >
> > > 278mm Long x 175mm wide x 190mm high.
> > >
> > > My existing battery is 280mm long x 180mm wide x 180mm high.
> > >
> > > Hence it fits except the height may be an issue with the extra
> > > 10mm.
> > >
> > > Has anyone fitted one of these or any other type of deep cycle
> > > battery.
> > >
> > > Any help appreciated.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Skot
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
Fellow Syncro nutters,
 
My new Varta Deep cycle 80A/h battery fits great without the flap and is held in place well by a standard factory clamp and the seat has about 3mm clearance so this battery aint going nowhere.
 
I have also installed my factory swivel seat base (What a bastard of a job) - 1 bolt (out of 4) and nut is near impossible to get on - but just managed.
 
Overall - very happy.
 
Steve Muller from Kombi Rescue had another one of these factory swivel seat bases and I'm not sure if he would still have it but as I have now installed mine I would definitely recommend it.
 
There is even a small "V" in the front of the wheel arch / seat base to allow for the swivel seat base lever to operate - always wondered what that was for.
 
Next stop - Old Bar.
 
Cheers,
 
Skot
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Craig
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 3:59 PM
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Deep Cycle Batteries That fit under the Passenger Seat

 

Scott,
When I've previously searched I couldn't find a suitable battery (capacity and Price) to put behind/under the seat, most batteries tend to be too high.

On conversions I've done I installed one battery under the rear seat and on another van I put it inside a cupboard. In both cases I put the battery in a proper battery box with a gas drop out in the bottom and through the van floor.
Even though VW put the battery unprotected inside the van if your van will be going over the pits i'd advise a proper battery box and drop out. It's also more advisable from a personal safety point of view both during normal use and during a crash.

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Mr Scott Pitcher" <spbconsulting@...> wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> Now I am finally connecting up a second hand fridge I have had for the last 6 years (unused) I need to organise a deep cycle battery as starting batteries don't like the constant draw from the fridge compressor.
>
> However, finding batteries that fit is a struggle.
>
> My local Battery World has a VARTA (German made) battery that is an 80Amp that is of the following dimensions:
>
> 278mm Long x 175mm wide x 190mm high.
>
> My existing battery is 280mm long x 180mm wide x 180mm high.
>
> Hence it fits except the height may be an issue with the extra 10mm.
>
> Has anyone fitted one of these or any other type of deep cycle battery.
>
> Any help appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Skot
>