Fixing Child seats in a T3

1
I'm increasingly wanting to Syncronize my grandchildren's lives and wonder how the Mums and Dads out there have addressed the problem. My 92 model Camper has a S bar supporting a lap sash belt on the rear nearside with just a lap belt for the other side of the seat/bed allowing the van to be registered as a 4 seater. I presume there would be a similar bracket for a lap sash belt on the driver's rear side but this is now taken up with a cupboard which is lined inside. Similarly a shallow cupboard above the bed at the rear shows no remnant of any  mounting points for the clip taking the v shape straps that come from the top of child car seats. There are however 2 loop type flat bars welded just in front of the engine hatch brackets which appear to be threaded.
 I'm thinking the solution lies in some sort of bar over the engine compartment which allowed those top clips to mount to it but is readily removeable to  still allow use of the bed. What have others done to preserve their precious cargo?
 
Roger

 
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There are however 2 loop type flat bars welded just in
front of the engine hatch brackets which appear to be threaded.

These were designed for child restraints to comply with Australian design rules. They are Australia only.




> Roger Bell <bellrmit@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>
> I'm increasingly wanting to Syncronize my grandchildren's lives and
> wonder how the Mums and Dads out there have addressed the problem. My 92
> model Camper has a��S bar supporting a lap sash belt on the rear nearside
> with just a lap belt for the other side of the seat/bed allowing the van
> to be registered as a 4 seater. I presume there would be a similar
> bracket for a lap sash belt on the driver's rear side but this is now
> taken up with a cupboard which is lined inside. Similarly a shallow
> cupboard above the bed at the rear shows no remnant of any�� mounting
> points for the clip taking the��v shape straps that come from the top of
> child car seats. There are however 2 loop type flat bars welded just in
> front of the engine hatch brackets which appear to be threaded.
> ��I'm thinking the solution lies in some sort of bar over the engine
> compartment which allowed those top clips to mount to it but��is readily
> removeable to ��still allow use of the bed. What have others done to
> preserve their precious cargo?
> ��
> Roger
>
>
>
3

Roger,

This is subject to ADR requirements.  I will check on them and get back to you.  A pic of the attachments on the floor in front of the engine hatch will help.

Les

 

From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com [mailto: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Roger Bell
Sent: 12 September 2010 00:48
To: Syncro Aust Group
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Fixing Child seats in a T3

 

 

I'm increasingly wanting to Syncronize my grandchildren's lives and wonder how the Mums and Dads out there have addressed the problem. My 92 model Camper has a S bar supporting a lap sash belt on the rear nearside with just a lap belt for the other side of the seat/bed allowing the van to be registered as a 4 seater. I presume there would be a similar bracket for a lap sash belt on the driver's rear side but this is now taken up with a cupboard which is lined inside. Similarly a shallow cupboard above the bed at the rear shows no remnant of any  mounting points for the clip taking the v shape straps that come from the top of child car seats. There are however 2 loop type flat bars welded just in front of the engine hatch brackets which appear to be threaded.

 I'm thinking the solution lies in some sort of bar over the engine compartment which allowed those top clips to mount to it but is readily removeable to  still allow use of the bed. What have others done to preserve their precious cargo?

 

Roger


 

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There should be information in your owner's manual Australian supplement.


> Les Harris <leslieharris@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>
> Roger,
>
> This is subject to ADR requirements. I will check on them and get back
> to
> you. A pic of the attachments on the floor in front of the engine hatch
> will help.
>
> Les
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Roger Bell
> Sent: 12 September 2010 00:48
> To: Syncro Aust Group
> Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Fixing Child seats in a T3
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I'm increasingly wanting to Syncronize my grandchildren's lives and
> wonder
> how the Mums and Dads out there have addressed the problem. My 92 model
> Camper has a S bar supporting a lap sash belt on the rear nearside with
> just
> a lap belt for the other side of the seat/bed allowing the van to be
> registered as a 4 seater. I presume there would be a similar bracket for
> a
> lap sash belt on the driver's rear side but this is now taken up with a
> cupboard which is lined inside. Similarly a shallow cupboard above the
> bed
> at the rear shows no remnant of any mounting points for the clip taking
> the
> v shape straps that come from the top of child car seats. There are
> however
> 2 loop type flat bars welded just in front of the engine hatch brackets
> which appear to be threaded.
>
> I'm thinking the solution lies in some sort of bar over the engine
> compartment which allowed those top clips to mount to it but is readily
> removeable to still allow use of the bed. What have others done to
> preserve
> their precious cargo?
>
>
>
> Roger
>
>
>
5
Roger, Those mounts in front of the engine compartment are adr child restraints. The thread is imperial. The only issue I had was going out and getting my own bolts as the ones that come with the hook bracket are too long. You will need 5/16 x 3/4" unc high tensile bolts. How old are the kiddies? You may also need this device to lock the lap sash belt if it does not have parcel mode. What is parcel mode? Its when you pull an inertia reel belt out all the way and it goes into a ratcheting mode. Feel free to see our set up, Sid is 2 1/2 and Audrey is 7 months, so we have a convertable rear facing seat and a high backed booster installed. Greg E

--- On Sun, 12/9/10, plander@optusnet.com.au <plander@optusnet.com.au> wrote:

From: plander@optusnet.com.au <plander@optusnet.com.au>
Subject: Re: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Fixing Child seats in a T3
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Received: Sunday, 12 September, 2010, 7:55 AM

 

There should be information in your owner's manual Australian supplement.

> Les Harris <leslieharris@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>
> Roger,
>
> This is subject to ADR requirements. I will check on them and get back
> to
> you. A pic of the attachments on the floor in front of the engine hatch
> will help.
>
> Les
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Roger Bell
> Sent: 12 September 2010 00:48
> To: Syncro Aust Group
> Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Fixing Child seats in a T3
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I'm increasingly wanting to Syncronize my grandchildren's lives and
> wonder
> how the Mums and Dads out there have addressed the problem. My 92 model
> Camper has a S bar supporting a lap sash belt on the rear nearside with
> just
> a lap belt for the other side of the seat/bed allowing the van to be
> registered as a 4 seater. I presume there would be a similar bracket for
> a
> lap sash belt on the driver's rear side but this is now taken up with a
> cupboard which is lined inside. Similarly a shallow cupboard above the
> bed
> at the rear shows no remnant of any mounting points for the clip taking
> the
> v shape straps that come from the top of child car seats. There are
> however
> 2 loop type flat bars welded just in front of the engine hatch brackets
> which appear to be threaded.
>
> I'm thinking the solution lies in some sort of bar over the engine
> compartment which allowed those top clips to mount to it but is readily
> removeable to still allow use of the bed. What have others done to
> preserve
> their precious cargo?
>
>
>
> Roger
>
>
>

 
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Roger,when I only had one seat installed,I used the anchor point in the roof,and a station wagon extension strap.Now I have two I use the anchor points in front of the engine compartment.I have to remove my bed matress for this.I do have for sale a ADR child seat mounting bar which allows the use of the mattress/and or cupboards if required.

From: greg esposito <gregespo73@yahoo.com>
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, September 12, 2010 8:56:26 AM
Subject: Re: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Fixing Child seats in a T3

 

Roger, Those mounts in front of the engine compartment are adr child restraints. The thread is imperial. The only issue I had was going out and getting my own bolts as the ones that come with the hook bracket are too long. You will need 5/16 x 3/4" unc high tensile bolts. How old are the kiddies? You may also need this device to lock the lap sash belt if it does not have parcel mode. What is parcel mode? Its when you pull an inertia reel belt out all the way and it goes into a ratcheting mode. Feel free to see our set up, Sid is 2 1/2 and Audrey is 7 months, so we have a convertable rear facing seat and a high backed booster installed. Greg E

--- On Sun, 12/9/10, plander@optusnet.com.au <plander@optusnet.com.au> wrote:

From: plander@optusnet.com.au <plander@optusnet.com.au>
Subject: Re: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Fixing Child seats in a T3
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Received: Sunday, 12 September, 2010, 7:55 AM

 

There should be information in your owner's manual Australian supplement.

> Les Harris <leslieharris@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>
> Roger,
>
> This is subject to ADR requirements. I will check on them and get back
> to
> you. A pic of the attachments on the floor in front of the engine hatch
> will help.
>
> Les
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Roger Bell
> Sent: 12 September 2010 00:48
> To: Syncro Aust Group
> Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Fixing Child seats in a T3
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I'm increasingly wanting to Syncronize my grandchildren's lives and
> wonder
> how the Mums and Dads out there have addressed the problem. My 92 model
> Camper has a S bar supporting a lap sash belt on the rear nearside with
> just
> a lap belt for the other side of the seat/bed allowing the van to be
> registered as a 4 seater. I presume there would be a similar bracket for
> a
> lap sash belt on the driver's rear side but this is now taken up with a
> cupboard which is lined inside. Similarly a shallow cupboard above the
> bed
> at the rear shows no remnant of any mounting points for the clip taking
> the
> v shape straps that come from the top of child car seats. There are
> however
> 2 loop type flat bars welded just in front of the engine hatch brackets
> which appear to be threaded.
>
> I'm thinking the solution lies in some sort of bar over the engine
> compartment which allowed those top clips to mount to it but is readily
> removeable to still allow use of the bed. What have others done to
> preserve
> their precious cargo?
>
>
>
> Roger
>
>
>

 


7
Roger,
 
I use an RTA approved bar across the back just below the headliner which allows me to adjust the position of the seat. It allows me to keep the back mattress section in place and luggage and is very easy to unclip the harness point from. See the attached photo.
 
Ben seems to have one for sale.
 
If you have cupboards in the back  it may be difficult to fit.
 
Skot
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Roger Bell
Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 12:48 AM
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Fixing Child seats in a T3

 

I'm increasingly wanting to Syncronize my grandchildren's lives and wonder how the Mums and Dads out there have addressed the problem. My 92 model Camper has a S bar supporting a lap sash belt on the rear nearside with just a lap belt for the other side of the seat/bed allowing the van to be registered as a 4 seater. I presume there would be a similar bracket for a lap sash belt on the driver's rear side but this is now taken up with a cupboard which is lined inside. Similarly a shallow cupboard above the bed at the rear shows no remnant of any  mounting points for the clip taking the v shape straps that come from the top of child car seats. There are however 2 loop type flat bars welded just in front of the engine hatch brackets which appear to be threaded.
 I'm thinking the solution lies in some sort of bar over the engine compartment which allowed those top clips to mount to it but is readily removeable to  still allow use of the bed. What have others done to preserve their precious cargo?
 
Roger

 

8
Gday Skot,yes thats what I have for sale.How did you mount it up there?Is there holes in behind the air scoops??I was going to mount it on the z-bars.
Hows things going,still going to Cresent at Christmas?I will definaltly come down Russells Fire Trail to show you my conversion and get some photos of two Subaru-powered T25s.
I recieved the last of my conversion parts this morning.I am doing the conversion on the 23rd of this month.I am getting excited.I has been a long 18 months of research and late night phonecalls O/S.

From: Mr Scott Pitcher <spbconsulting@bigpond.com>
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, September 13, 2010 9:38:48 AM
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Fixing Child seats in a T3

 

Roger,
 
I use an RTA approved bar across the back just below the headliner which allows me to adjust the position of the seat. It allows me to keep the back mattress section in place and luggage and is very easy to unclip the harness point from. See the attached photo.
 
Ben seems to have one for sale.
 
If you have cupboards in the back  it may be difficult to fit.
 
Skot
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Roger Bell
Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 12:48 AM
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Fixing Child seats in a T3

 

I'm increasingly wanting to Syncronize my grandchildren's lives and wonder how the Mums and Dads out there have addressed the problem. My 92 model Camper has a S bar supporting a lap sash belt on the rear nearside with just a lap belt for the other side of the seat/bed allowing the van to be registered as a 4 seater. I presume there would be a similar bracket for a lap sash belt on the driver's rear side but this is now taken up with a cupboard which is lined inside. Similarly a shallow cupboard above the bed at the rear shows no remnant of any  mounting points for the clip taking the v shape straps that come from the top of child car seats. There are however 2 loop type flat bars welded just in front of the engine hatch brackets which appear to be threaded.
 I'm thinking the solution lies in some sort of bar over the engine compartment which allowed those top clips to mount to it but is readily removeable to  still allow use of the bed. What have others done to preserve their precious cargo?
 
Roger

 


9

Ben,
 
The bar is put through some pre-drileld holes - it was fitted by a professional safety seat company in Gosford. Hence I wasnt there to cringe when the drill went through! It is great though and keeps the attchment point out of the way. Still hit my head on it when exiting through the rear tailgate when camping - so looking forward to it gone though - only another couple of years of head banging before my youngest goes to a booster seat. No more breeding planned!
 
Regarding the Crescent Head Adventure:
 
Yes the plan is still for a Crescent Head Christmas jaunt all going well (my kids seem to have been getting sick all the time lately - so I can never guarantee anything).
 
I have been making a cupboard for my upgraded Weaco 2 way fridge which is huge and just fits in below the window sill. I have had this fridge for 6 years and never fitted it or even used it! Kids means spare time is non existent and I wanted my pop top sorted out first - at least that is now done.
 
Just now putting edging on it and doing some wiring including my dual battery kit.
 
I am going to book the mechanic in next week for some diff-lock actuator replacement work.
 
Then off to Old Bar for the Kombi festival over the October Long Weekend.
 
This will be a good test for camping for Christmas.
 
Cheers,
 
Scott
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Ben Croft
Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 10:05 AM
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Fixing Child seats in a T3

 

Gday Skot,yes thats what I have for sale.How did you mount it up there?Is there holes in behind the air scoops??I was going to mount it on the z-bars.
Hows things going,still going to Cresent at Christmas?I will definaltly come down Russells Fire Trail to show you my conversion and get some photos of two Subaru-powered T25s.
I recieved the last of my conversion parts this morning.I am doing the conversion on the 23rd of this month.I am getting excited.I has been a long 18 months of research and late night phonecalls O/S.

From: Mr Scott Pitcher <spbconsulting@bigpond.com>
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, September 13, 2010 9:38:48 AM
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Fixing Child seats in a T3

 

Roger,
 
I use an RTA approved bar across the back just below the headliner which allows me to adjust the position of the seat. It allows me to keep the back mattress section in place and luggage and is very easy to unclip the harness point from. See the attached photo.
 
Ben seems to have one for sale.
 
If you have cupboards in the back  it may be difficult to fit.
 
Skot
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Roger Bell
Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 12:48 AM
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Fixing Child seats in a T3

 

I'm increasingly wanting to Syncronize my grandchildren's lives and wonder how the Mums and Dads out there have addressed the problem. My 92 model Camper has a S bar supporting a lap sash belt on the rear nearside with just a lap belt for the other side of the seat/bed allowing the van to be registered as a 4 seater. I presume there would be a similar bracket for a lap sash belt on the driver's rear side but this is now taken up with a cupboard which is lined inside. Similarly a shallow cupboard above the bed at the rear shows no remnant of any  mounting points for the clip taking the v shape straps that come from the top of child car seats. There are however 2 loop type flat bars welded just in front of the engine hatch brackets which appear to be threaded.
 I'm thinking the solution lies in some sort of bar over the engine compartment which allowed those top clips to mount to it but is readily removeable to  still allow use of the bed. What have others done to preserve their precious cargo?
 
Roger

 


10
Scott,if all goes to plan I will also be at Old Bar.
You should replace the actuator yourself.Very easy.

From: Mr Scott Pitcher <spbconsulting@bigpond.com>
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, September 13, 2010 11:18:32 AM
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Fixing Child seats in a T3

 



Ben,
 
The bar is put through some pre-drileld holes - it was fitted by a professional safety seat company in Gosford. Hence I wasnt there to cringe when the drill went through! It is great though and keeps the attchment point out of the way. Still hit my head on it when exiting through the rear tailgate when camping - so looking forward to it gone though - only another couple of years of head banging before my youngest goes to a booster seat. No more breeding planned!
 
Regarding the Crescent Head Adventure:
 
Yes the plan is still for a Crescent Head Christmas jaunt all going well (my kids seem to have been getting sick all the time lately - so I can never guarantee anything).
 
I have been making a cupboard for my upgraded Weaco 2 way fridge which is huge and just fits in below the window sill. I have had this fridge for 6 years and never fitted it or even used it! Kids means spare time is non existent and I wanted my pop top sorted out first - at least that is now done.
 
Just now putting edging on it and doing some wiring including my dual battery kit.
 
I am going to book the mechanic in next week for some diff-lock actuator replacement work.
 
Then off to Old Bar for the Kombi festival over the October Long Weekend.
 
This will be a good test for camping for Christmas.
 
Cheers,
 
Scott
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Ben Croft
Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 10:05 AM
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Fixing Child seats in a T3

 

Gday Skot,yes thats what I have for sale.How did you mount it up there?Is there holes in behind the air scoops??I was going to mount it on the z-bars.
Hows things going,still going to Cresent at Christmas?I will definaltly come down Russells Fire Trail to show you my conversion and get some photos of two Subaru-powered T25s.
I recieved the last of my conversion parts this morning.I am doing the conversion on the 23rd of this month.I am getting excited.I has been a long 18 months of research and late night phonecalls O/S.

From: Mr Scott Pitcher <spbconsulting@bigpond.com>
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, September 13, 2010 9:38:48 AM
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Fixing Child seats in a T3

 

Roger,
 
I use an RTA approved bar across the back just below the headliner which allows me to adjust the position of the seat. It allows me to keep the back mattress section in place and luggage and is very easy to unclip the harness point from. See the attached photo.
 
Ben seems to have one for sale.
 
If you have cupboards in the back  it may be difficult to fit.
 
Skot
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Roger Bell
Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 12:48 AM
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Fixing Child seats in a T3

 

I'm increasingly wanting to Syncronize my grandchildren's lives and wonder how the Mums and Dads out there have addressed the problem. My 92 model Camper has a S bar supporting a lap sash belt on the rear nearside with just a lap belt for the other side of the seat/bed allowing the van to be registered as a 4 seater. I presume there would be a similar bracket for a lap sash belt on the driver's rear side but this is now taken up with a cupboard which is lined inside. Similarly a shallow cupboard above the bed at the rear shows no remnant of any  mounting points for the clip taking the v shape straps that come from the top of child car seats. There are however 2 loop type flat bars welded just in front of the engine hatch brackets which appear to be threaded.
 I'm thinking the solution lies in some sort of bar over the engine compartment which allowed those top clips to mount to it but is readily removeable to  still allow use of the bed. What have others done to preserve their precious cargo?
 
Roger

 



11
Roger

We have the same setup as Scott and Greg - works well and makes loading a bit easier in some respects (and less so in others).

Scott - see you at Old Bar! Are you camping up the road again on the river?

Mark.

On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 11:18 AM, Mr Scott Pitcher <spbconsulting@bigpond.com> wrote:



Ben,
The bar is put through some pre-drileld holes - it was fitted by a professional safety seat company in Gosford. Hence I wasnt there to cringe when the drill went through! It is great though and keeps the attchment point out of the way. Still hit my head on it when exiting through the rear tailgate when camping - so looking forward to it gone though - only another couple of years of head banging before my youngest goes to a booster seat. No more breeding planned!
Regarding the Crescent Head Adventure:
Yes the plan is still for a Crescent Head Christmas jaunt all going well (my kids seem to have been getting sick all the time lately - so I can never guarantee anything).
I have been making a cupboard for my upgraded Weaco 2 way fridge which is huge and just fits in below the window sill. I have had this fridge for 6 years and never fitted it or even used it! Kids means spare time is non existent and I wanted my pop top sorted out first - at least that is now done.
Just now putting edging on it and doing some wiring including my dual battery kit.
I am going to book the mechanic in next week for some diff-lock actuator replacement work.
Then off to Old Bar for the Kombi festival over the October Long Weekend.
This will be a good test for camping for Christmas.
Cheers,
Scott
----- Original Message -----
From: Ben Croft
Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 10:05 AM
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Fixing Child seats in a T3

Gday Skot,yes thats what I have for sale.How did you mount it up there?Is there holes in behind the air scoops??I was going to mount it on the z-bars.
Hows things going,still going to Cresent at Christmas?I will definaltly come down Russells Fire Trail to show you my conversion and get some photos of two Subaru-powered T25s.
I recieved the last of my conversion parts this morning.I am doing the conversion on the 23rd of this month.I am getting excited.I has been a long 18 months of research and late night phonecalls O/S.

From: Mr Scott Pitcher <spbconsulting@bigpond.com>
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, September 13, 2010 9:38:48 AM
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Fixing Child seats in a T3

Roger,
I use an RTA approved bar across the back just below the headliner which allows me to adjust the position of the seat. It allows me to keep the back mattress section in place and luggage and is very easy to unclip the harness point from. See the attached photo.
Ben seems to have one for sale.
If you have cupboards in the back it may be difficult to fit.
Skot
----- Original Message -----
From: Roger Bell
Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 12:48 AM
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Fixing Child seats in a T3

I'm increasingly wanting to Syncronize my grandchildren's lives and wonder how the Mums and Dads out there have addressed the problem. My 92 model Camper has a S bar supporting a lap sash belt on the rear nearside with just a lap belt for the other side of the seat/bed allowing the van to be registered as a 4 seater. I presume there would be a similar bracket for a lap sash belt on the driver's rear side but this is now taken up with a cupboard which is lined inside. Similarly a shallow cupboard above the bed at the rear shows no remnant of any mounting points for the clip taking the v shape straps that come from the top of child car seats. There are however 2 loop type flat bars welded just in front of the engine hatch brackets which appear to be threaded.
I'm thinking the solution lies in some sort of bar over the engine compartment which allowed those top clips to mount to it but is readily removeable to still allow use of the bed. What have others done to preserve their precious cargo?
Roger