Hi Les
Thanks for keeping us up to date on progress, every day I think I hear a new grumble form my box and start worrying...
Sounds like you have it under control but here is a link to a US based company that rebuild and supply parts for syncro transmissions. Their name comes up on US based sites with postive comments.
http://www.longenterprises.com/parts_list/rebuildkits.htm
http://www.longenterprises.com/vanagon_syncro_specialty_items.htm
They probably buy Albins gears though by the sound of things.
Cheers
Gary
I have been through several agonizing days while Volkspower has been searching the world for parts to rebuild my gearbox.
The most worrying item is a new crownwheel and pinion.
Guess what! The 5.43 crownwheel and pinion is NO LONGER AVAILABLE from VAG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This does not bode well for our future but, fortunately, there is an alternative. Albins will make them for about $1400 - the VAG price is $1879. Albins make gears for off road racing vehicles using VW and Porsche gearboxes, and just about their total production goes to the US. The reputation of their gears is about s good as it gets. Because they are a local firm, we can buy direct from Albins while the rest of the world can buy only from their appointed distributor for the rest of the world.
Fortunately for me, they found one in Singapore and it is now on its way here.
Oh yes, and there are several bearings that are NLA as well, but it should be possible to get suitable matches. (Thank you, VAG, for your ongoing support.)
Les
----- Original Message -----From: Gary CooksonSent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 2:07 PMSubject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Gaerbox Parts
Hi Les
Thanks for keeping us up to date on progress, every day I think I hear a new grumble form my box and start worrying...
Sounds like you have it under control but here is a link to a US based company that rebuild and supply parts for syncro transmissions. Their name comes up on US based sites with postive comments.
http://www.longente rprises.com/ parts_list/ rebuildkits. htm
http://www.longente rprises.com/ vanagon_syncro_ specialty_ items.htm
They probably buy Albins gears though by the sound of things.
Cheers
Gary
I.
I wonder who made the dodgy C&P that Volkspower sourced, can’t imagine there are too many people manufacturing them.
What caused your original C&P to be u/s? Is it the failure of the pinion bearing that then chews up the teeth?
Can you change the ratio slightly in your box in order to get a genuine item a bit sooner? Did you decide to change ratios at all in the end?
Cheers
Gary
Gary,
There are probably some suppliers of non-genuine parts around the world but quality is often a big question mark. Volkspower used a non genuine crownwheel and pinion in a box (due to short supply of genuine) and it lasted just six months. It cost them a bundle because it was still under warranty and they had to build the box from scratch again, this time using a genuine C/P.
I would be more than happy to use an Albins C/P but they haven't made one in that ratio so far, so they don't exist yet. Given that the difference between genuine and non genuine isn't a huge amount and given that rebuilding a box is in any event very expensive, the temptation to save a few dollars could be a lot more than it is worth in the future.
Les
----- Original Message -----
From: Gary Cookson <mailto:gary@twentytwentyone.net>
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 2:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Gaerbox Parts
Hi Les
Thanks for keeping us up to date on progress, every day I think I hear a new grumble form my box and start worrying...
Sounds like you have it under control but here is a link to a US based company that rebuild and supply parts for syncro transmissions. Their name comes up on US based sites with postive comments.
http://www.longenterprises.com/parts_list/rebuildkits.htm
http://www.longenterprises.com/vanagon_syncro_specialty_items.htm
They probably buy Albins gears though by the sound of things.
Cheers
Gary
I
.
----- Original Message -----From: Gary CooksonSent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 3:06 PMSubject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Gaerbox Parts
I wonder who made the dodgy C&P that Volkspower sourced, cant imagine there are too many people manufacturing them.
What caused your original C&P to be u/s? Is it the failure of the pinion bearing that then chews up the teeth?
Can you change the ratio slightly in your box in order to get a genuine item a bit sooner? Did you decide to change ratios at all in the end?
Cheers
Gary
Gary,
There are probably some suppliers of non-genuine parts around the world but quality is often a big question mark. Volkspower used a non genuine crownwheel and pinion in a box (due to short supply of genuine) and it lasted just six months. It cost them a bundle because it was still under warranty and they had to build the box from scratch again, this time using a genuine C/P.
I would be more than happy to use an Albins C/P but they haven't made one in that ratio so far, so they don't exist yet. Given that the difference between genuine and non genuine isn't a huge amount and given that rebuilding a box is in any event very expensive, the temptation to save a few dollars could be a lot more than it is worth in the future.
Les
----- Original Message -----
From: Gary Cookson <mailto:gary@ twentytwentyone. net>
To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 2:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australi a] Gaerbox Parts
Hi Les
Thanks for keeping us up to date on progress, every day I think I hear a new grumble form my box and start worrying...
Sounds like you have it under control but here is a link to a US based company that rebuild and supply parts for syncro transmissions. Their name comes up on US based sites with postive comments.
http://www.longente rprises.com/ parts_list/ rebuildkits. htm
http://www.longente rprises.com/ vanagon_syncro_ specialty_ items.htm
They probably buy Albins gears though by the sound of things.
Cheers
Gary
I
.
Of course! I wasn’t thinking about having to change front and rear. I’m so used to running around in 2wd until I get my propshaft and vc issues sorted I forgot about the front C&P!
That’s very interesting regarding the non-synthetic oil, so what are you planning to put in yours?
I guess you are set for another 200k once it is done though, you’ll be replacing the MV with a hydrogen fuel cell before you need to worry about the box again!
Gary
Gary,
I had a long talk with Mike Baker, who is rebuilding the box. He finds that it has been out before, that the roll pin in the diff lock yoke has been butchered (which would explain a few other things) but my key question was what happened to the C/P. His opinion was that it had been assembled with too much preload, which loaded up everything else. He bases this on the wear on the teeth being typical of too much preload.
He has an interesting view on oil, based on his thirty years of building boxes, including desert racing boxes. He tends towards non-synthetic being ultimately better because of the cushioning effect and sees proof in wear rates in T2 and T3 boxes as supporting this.
I decided against changing third and fourth ratios based on the graphs that I constructed. For my use and a standard MV engine, I will stay with the standard ratios. The only more readily available C/P will be the 4.86, which was fitted in the US but not in Australia. And bear in mind that you have to change both front and back.
I don't know where the dodgy C/P came from but will ask.
Les
----- Original Message -----
From: Gary Cookson <mailto:gary@twentytwentyone.net>
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 3:06 PM
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Gaerbox Parts
I wonder who made the dodgy C&P that Volkspower sourced, can’t imagine there are too many people manufacturing them.
What caused your original C&P to be u/s? Is it the failure of the pinion bearing that then chews up the teeth?
Can you change the ratio slightly in your box in order to get a genuine item a bit sooner? Did you decide to change ratios at all in the end?
Cheers
Gary
Gary,
There are probably some suppliers of non-genuine parts around the world but quality is often a big question mark. Volkspower used a non genuine crownwheel and pinion in a box (due to short supply of genuine) and it lasted just six months. It cost them a bundle because it was still under warranty and they had to build the box from scratch again, this time using a genuine C/P.
I would be more than happy to use an Albins C/P but they haven't made one in that ratio so far, so they don't exist yet. Given that the difference between genuine and non genuine isn't a huge amount and given that rebuilding a box is in any event very expensive, the temptation to save a few dollars could be a lot more than it is worth in the future.
Les
----- Original Message -----
From: Gary Cookson <mailto:gary@twentytwentyone.net>
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 2:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Gaerbox Parts
Hi Les
Thanks for keeping us up to date on progress, every day I think I hear a new grumble form my box and start worrying...
Sounds like you have it under control but here is a link to a US based company that rebuild and supply parts for syncro transmissions. Their name comes up on US based sites with postive comments.
http://www.longenterprises.com/parts_list/rebuildkits.htm
http://www.longenterprises.com/vanagon_syncro_specialty_items.htm
They probably buy Albins gears though by the sound of things.
Cheers
Gary
I
.
----- Original Message -----From: Gary CooksonSent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 3:51 PMSubject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Gaerbox Parts
Of course! I wasnt thinking about having to change front and rear. Im so used to running around in 2wd until I get my propshaft and vc issues sorted I forgot about the front C&P!
Thats very interesting regarding the non-synthetic oil, so what are you planning to put in yours?
I guess you are set for another 200k once it is done though, youll be replacing the MV with a hydrogen fuel cell before you need to worry about the box again!
Gary
.
<leslieharris@...> wrote:
>world but quality is often a big question mark. Volkspower used a non
> Gary,
>
> There are probably some suppliers of non-genuine parts around the
genuine crownwheel and pinion in a box (due to short supply of
genuine) and it lasted just six months. It cost them a bundle because
it was still under warranty and they had to build the box from scratch
again, this time using a genuine C/P.
>made one in that ratio so far, so they don't exist yet. Given that
> I would be more than happy to use an Albins C/P but they haven't
the difference between genuine and non genuine isn't a huge amount and
given that rebuilding a box is in any event very expensive, the
temptation to save a few dollars could be a lot more than it is worth
in the future.
>I hear a new grumble form my box and start worrying...
> Les
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Gary Cookson
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 2:07 PM
> Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Gaerbox Parts
>
>
>
> Hi Les
>
> Thanks for keeping us up to date on progress, every day I think
>based company that rebuild and supply parts for syncro transmissions.
> Sounds like you have it under control but here is a link to a US
Their name comes up on US based sites with postive comments.
>Does the C&P Contain diff lock ! Means you must ask if
> http://www.longenterprises.com/parts_list/rebuildkits.htm
>
> http://www.longenterprises.com/vanagon_syncro_specialty_items.htm
>
> They probably buy Albins gears though by the sound of things.
>
> Cheers
>
> Gary
>
>
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crownwheel for non difflock is available for all of us Telstra van
owners presumably same ratio?
Thanks for the post
Regards Pete
----- Original Message -----From: nerdnettySent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 4:44 PMSubject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Gaerbox Parts
>Hey Les,
Does the C&P Contain diff lock ! Means you must ask if
crownwheel for non difflock is available for all of us Telstra van
owners presumably same ratio?
Thanks for the post
Regards Pete
I have just ordered a thermostat housing in England that is no longer available.
Sometimes they say NLA because Singapore does not have it. (Sometimes it is really NLA.)
You really have to check. What do South Africa have? Some places will have NOS.
Phill
> Les Harris <leslieharris@optushome.com.au> wrote:
>
> I have been through several agonizing days while Volkspower has been
> searching the world for parts to rebuild my gearbox.
>
> The most worrying item is a new crownwheel and pinion.
>
> Guess what! The 5.43 crownwheel and pinion is NO LONGER AVAILABLE from
> VAG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> This does not bode well for our future but, fortunately, there is an
> alternative. Albins will make them for about $1400 - the VAG price is
> $1879. Albins make gears for off road racing vehicles using VW and
> Porsche gearboxes, and just about their total production goes to the US.
> The reputation of their gears is about s good as it gets. Because they
> are a local firm, we can buy direct from Albins while the rest of the
> world can buy only from their appointed distributor for the rest of the
> world.
>
> Fortunately for me, they found one in Singapore and it is now on its way
> here.
>
> Oh yes, and there are several bearings that are NLA as well, but it
> should be possible to get suitable matches. (Thank you, VAG, for your
> ongoing support.)
>
> Les
----- Original Message -----From: plander@optusnet.com.auSent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 5:35 PMSubject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Gaerbox Parts
I wonder if it really is no longer available??? ??????
I have just ordered a thermostat housing in England that is no longer available.
Sometimes they say NLA because Singapore does not have it. (Sometimes it is really NLA.)
You really have to check. What do South Africa have? Some places will have NOS.
Phill
> Les Harris <leslieharris@ optushome. com.au> wrote:
>
> I have been through several agonizing days while Volkspower has been
> searching the world for parts to rebuild my gearbox.
>
> The most worrying item is a new crownwheel and pinion.
>
> Guess what! The 5.43 crownwheel and pinion is NO LONGER AVAILABLE from
> VAG!!!!!!!!! !!!!!
>
> This does not bode well for our future but, fortunately, there is an
> alternative. Albins will make them for about $1400 - the VAG price is
> $1879. Albins make gears for off road racing vehicles using VW and
> Porsche gearboxes, and just about their total production goes to the US.
> The reputation of their gears is about s good as it gets. Because they
> are a local firm, we can buy direct from Albins while the rest of the
> world can buy only from their appointed distributor for the rest of the
> world.
>
> Fortunately for me, they found one in Singapore and it is now on its way
> here.
>
> Oh yes, and there are several bearings that are NLA as well, but it
> should be possible to get suitable matches. (Thank you, VAG, for your
> ongoing support.)
>
> Les
Les,
sounds like ther is a bit of bother with the gearbox I am still waiting to see how it all pans out before i start mine. still building the shed for it to go in.
Phil Lee
From: Les Harris <leslieharris@optushome.com.au>
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 6, 2008 6:34:43 PM
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Gaerbox Parts
----- Original Message -----From: plander@optusnet. com.auSent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 5:35 PMSubject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australi a] Gaerbox Parts
I wonder if it really is no longer available??? ??????
I have just ordered a thermostat housing in England that is no longer available.
Sometimes they say NLA because Singapore does not have it. (Sometimes it is really NLA.)
You really have to check. What do South Africa have? Some places will have NOS.
Phill
> Les Harris <leslieharris@ optushome. com.au> wrote:
>
> I have been through several agonizing days while Volkspower has been
> searching the world for parts to rebuild my gearbox.
>
> The most worrying item is a new crownwheel and pinion.
>
> Guess what! The 5.43 crownwheel and pinion is NO LONGER AVAILABLE from
> VAG!!!!!!!!! !!!!!
>
> This does not bode well for our future but, fortunately, there is an
> alternative. Albins will make them for about $1400 - the VAG price is
> $1879. Albins make gears for off road racing vehicles using VW and
> Porsche gearboxes, and just about their total production goes to the US.
> The reputation of their gears is about s good as it gets. Because they
> are a local firm, we can buy direct from Albins while the rest of the
> world can buy only from their appointed distributor for the rest of the
> world.
>
> Fortunately for me, they found one in Singapore and it is now on its way
> here.
>
> Oh yes, and there are several bearings that are NLA as well, but it
> should be possible to get suitable matches. (Thank you, VAG, for your
> ongoing support.)
>
> Les
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ETKA lists Part no. 094 517 143 F for both 6P and 6PA transmissions, so
rest easy.
Cheers.
Ken
--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "nerdnetty" <amortensen@...>
wrote:
>
> --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Les Harris"
> leslieharris@ wrote:
> >
> > Gary,
> >
> > There are probably some suppliers of non-genuine parts around the
> world but quality is often a big question mark. Volkspower used a non
> genuine crownwheel and pinion in a box (due to short supply of
> genuine) and it lasted just six months. It cost them a bundle because
> it was still under warranty and they had to build the box from scratch
> again, this time using a genuine C/P.
> >
> > I would be more than happy to use an Albins C/P but they haven't
> made one in that ratio so far, so they don't exist yet. Given that
> the difference between genuine and non genuine isn't a huge amount and
> given that rebuilding a box is in any event very expensive, the
> temptation to save a few dollars could be a lot more than it is worth
> in the future.
> >
> > Les
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Gary Cookson
> > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 2:07 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Gaerbox Parts
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Les
> >
> > Thanks for keeping us up to date on progress, every day I think
> I hear a new grumble form my box and start worrying...
> >
> > Sounds like you have it under control but here is a link to a US
> based company that rebuild and supply parts for syncro transmissions.
> Their name comes up on US based sites with postive comments.
> >
> > http://www.longenterprises.com/parts_list/rebuildkits.htm
> >
> > http://www.longenterprises.com/vanagon_syncro_specialty_items.htm
> >
> > They probably buy Albins gears though by the sound of things.
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Gary
> >
> >
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> >Hey Les,
> Does the C&P Contain diff lock ! Means you must ask if
> crownwheel for non difflock is available for all of us Telstra van
> owners presumably same ratio?
> Thanks for the post
> Regards Pete
>
>Thanks KEN,GOOD TO HEAR FROM YOU ! How is your old bucket of bolts ..
When are you going to let me go bush bashing in it again ? Found some
new hills we can test your conected difflock on. Have you been playing
with your new Knobs much.
Cheers Pete
>
> Gday Pete,
>
> ETKA lists Part no. 094 517 143 F for both 6P and 6PA transmissions, so
> rest easy.
>
> Cheers.
>
> Ken
>
>
> --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "nerdnetty" <amortensen@>
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Les Harris"
> > leslieharris@ wrote:
> > >
> > > Gary,
> > >
> > > There are probably some suppliers of non-genuine parts around the
> > world but quality is often a big question mark. Volkspower used a non
> > genuine crownwheel and pinion in a box (due to short supply of
> > genuine) and it lasted just six months. It cost them a bundle because
> > it was still under warranty and they had to build the box from scratch
> > again, this time using a genuine C/P.
> > >
> > > I would be more than happy to use an Albins C/P but they haven't
> > made one in that ratio so far, so they don't exist yet. Given that
> > the difference between genuine and non genuine isn't a huge amount and
> > given that rebuilding a box is in any event very expensive, the
> > temptation to save a few dollars could be a lot more than it is worth
> > in the future.
> > >
> > > Les
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Gary Cookson
> > > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 2:07 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Gaerbox Parts
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Les
> > >
> > > Thanks for keeping us up to date on progress, every day I think
> > I hear a new grumble form my box and start worrying...
> > >
> > > Sounds like you have it under control but here is a link to a US
> > based company that rebuild and supply parts for syncro transmissions.
> > Their name comes up on US based sites with postive comments.
> > >
> > > http://www.longenterprises.com/parts_list/rebuildkits.htm
> > >
> > > http://www.longenterprises.com/vanagon_syncro_specialty_items.htm
> > >
> > > They probably buy Albins gears though by the sound of things.
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > >
> > > Gary
> > >
> > >
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> > >Hey Les,
> > Does the C&P Contain diff lock ! Means you must ask if
> > crownwheel for non difflock is available for all of us Telstra van
> > owners presumably same ratio?
> > Thanks for the post
> > Regards Pete
> >
>
erm .... bit scared now Pete to exit the garage. Third parties suggest
my brakes are cactus, I drive too fast downhill offroad and I'm
petrified now about my C&P. I expect you can confirm/deny all that eh.
Rumour has it the price of fuel may drop in 6 or 12 months time or so
and you can then afford to drive down here in your 2WD Telstra and
luxuriate once again behind the wheel of my modded hack.
Then again, get yours modded too and I'll organise a local syncro Tour
down here and you can show off to your hearts content ... lol.
Playing with my knobs much, you ask? Hhhhmmmmmmm. Should I? I thought
they were there to be decorative and to polish. Dammit Peter, you should
have told me earlier.
Cheers.
Ken
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wrote:
>so
> --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Ken" unclekenz@ wrote:
> >Thanks KEN,
> GOOD TO HEAR FROM YOU ! How is your old bucket of bolts ..
> When are you going to let me go bush bashing in it again ? Found some
> new hills we can test your conected difflock on. Have you been playing
> with your new Knobs much.
> Cheers Pete
> >
> > Gday Pete,
> >
> > ETKA lists Part no. 094 517 143 F for both 6P and 6PA transmissions,
> > rest easy.<amortensen@>
> >
> > Cheers.
> >
> > Ken
> >
> >
> > --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "nerdnetty"
> > wrote:the
> > >
> > > --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Les Harris"
> > > leslieharris@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Gary,
> > > >
> > > > There are probably some suppliers of non-genuine parts around
> > > world but quality is often a big question mark. Volkspower used anon
> > > genuine crownwheel and pinion in a box (due to short supply ofbecause
> > > genuine) and it lasted just six months. It cost them a bundle
> > > it was still under warranty and they had to build the box fromscratch
> > > again, this time using a genuine C/P.and
> > > >
> > > > I would be more than happy to use an Albins C/P but they haven't
> > > made one in that ratio so far, so they don't exist yet. Given that
> > > the difference between genuine and non genuine isn't a huge amount
> > > given that rebuilding a box is in any event very expensive, theworth
> > > temptation to save a few dollars could be a lot more than it is
> > > in the future.transmissions.
> > > >
> > > > Les
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: Gary Cookson
> > > > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 2:07 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Gaerbox Parts
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi Les
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for keeping us up to date on progress, every day I think
> > > I hear a new grumble form my box and start worrying...
> > > >
> > > > Sounds like you have it under control but here is a link to a US
> > > based company that rebuild and supply parts for syncro
> > > Their name comes up on US based sites with postive comments.http://www.longenterprises.com/vanagon_syncro_specialty_items.htm
> > > >
> > > > http://www.longenterprises.com/parts_list/rebuildkits.htm
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > They probably buy Albins gears though by the sound of things.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers
> > > >
> > > > Gary
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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> > > >Hey Les,
> > > Does the C&P Contain diff lock ! Means you must ask if
> > > crownwheel for non difflock is available for all of us Telstra van
> > > owners presumably same ratio?
> > > Thanks for the post
> > > Regards Pete
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