Leak head

Any rebuild should get new head studs fitted !

Try Tooley imports or go westy for new studs.

The issue when rebuilding is getting your old head studs out from a labor point of view.

Best practice is to leave your case halves out In the sun studs up and dig out the bases of the stud to form a cavity to store a good quality stud remover lubricant to sit in. As the case heats up in the sun keep giving each stud a spray again. Give it a day it two. Then install case in a proper stand and get a good sized hammer and give each stud a bloody good wack maybe once or twice or even three times on its end!! Then u really only get one go at unscrewing it. Worst case is it snaps! 
If if does well then be prepared to take ages getting the remainder out and make sure you don't damage the thread too much - a helicoil can be used here.

Alternatively try heating up the block where the stud seats with a oxy briefly and then spray it with the lubricant working on the principle that AL exp faster than the steel stud therefore breaking the seal and allowing lub in.

To be honnest most leaking heads are a result of not running the correct coolant or lack of it and simply a corroded head surface. But if that's the case the head studs will also be pitted leading to either a broken head stud or you breaking it when trying to remove it or re tension it.

The Key is to run the correct coolant always!

Sent from my iPhone

On 4 Apr 2014, at 6:47 pm,Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com wrote:

There are 10 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1a. That time in every Syncro's life    
  From: Nicholas Fletcher
1b. Re: That time in every Syncro's life    
  From: Steve Clarke
1c. Re: That time in every Syncro's life    
  From: Les Harris
1d. Re: That time in every Syncro's life    
  From: Robert Dale
1e. Re: That time in every Syncro's life    
  From: Les Harris
1f. Re: That time in every Syncro's life    
  From: Greg Esposito
1g. Re: That time in every Syncro's life    
  From: Robert Dale
1h. Re: That time in every Syncro's life    
  From: Tony Marshall
1i. Re: That time in every Syncro's life    
  From: Les Harris
1j. Re: That time in every Syncro's life    
  From: Nick Fletcher


Messages
________________________________________________________________________
1a. That time in every Syncro's life
  Posted by: "Nicholas Fletcher"nwjfletcher@yahoo.com nwjfletcher
  Date: Thu Apr 3, 2014 2:34 pm ((PDT))

HI, 
Our beloved Syncro has the dreaded head gasket leak so needs the job doing, plus a bit of a tune up and so on. 

We are in Victoria but I am happy to drive quite a long way for the best mechanic for the job. Does anyone have a recommended mechanic that would also provide some kind of warranty for the work? And how much should it cost? ( I think it should be a couple of thousand)

many thanks
Nick



Messages in this topic (10)
________________________________________________________________________
1b. Re: That time in every Syncro's life
  Posted by: "Steve Clarke"sclarke7171@gmail.comsclarke7171
  Date: Thu Apr 3, 2014 2:53 pm ((PDT))

Interesting. I had the same problem. I'm seriously thinking about
converting mine over to a Volvo B23 engine. Same power and bullet proof.
Will keep you all in the loop on what I do. :)

On Friday, April 4, 2014, Nicholas Fletcher <nwjfletcher@yahoo.com> wrote:



HI,
Our beloved Syncro has the dreaded head gasket leak so needs the job
doing, plus a bit of a tune up and so on.

We are in Victoria but I am happy to drive quite a long way for the best
mechanic for the job. Does anyone have a recommended mechanic that would
also provide some kind of warranty for the work? And how much should it
cost? ( I think it should be a couple of thousand)

many thanks
Nick




Messages in this topic (10)
________________________________________________________________________
1c. Re: That time in every Syncro's life
  Posted by: "Les Harris"leslieharris@optusnet.com.ausyncroaustralia
  Date: Thu Apr 3, 2014 3:08 pm ((PDT))

Nick,

You are a long way from anywhere so you might as well go to the best
workshop - Volkwerke at Greensborough.  They are long established, much
respected and very reliable.  Speak to Lloyd Davies (owner) and tell him
that you are a member of Syncro_T3_Australia.

Les

_____  

From:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Nicholas Fletcher
Sent: 04 April 2014 08:34
To:syncro_t3_australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] That time in every Syncro's life  

HI, 

Our beloved Syncro has the dreaded head gasket leak so needs the job doing,
plus a bit of a tune up and so on. 

We are in Victoria but I am happy to drive quite a long way for the best
mechanic for the job. Does anyone have a recommended mechanic that would
also provide some kind of warranty for the work? And how much should it
cost? ( I think it should be a couple of thousand)

many thanks

Nick





Messages in this topic (10)
________________________________________________________________________
1d. Re: That time in every Syncro's life
  Posted by: "Robert Dale"rcdale@bigpond.comrobertdale1945
  Date: Thu Apr 3, 2014 3:23 pm ((PDT))

Nick;

When you are getting prices ask how much it will cost to have s/steel head
studs fitted over normal units this should stop the corrosion problems that
can cause the head to leak.

Bob 



From:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve Clarke
Sent: Friday, 4 April 2014 8:54 AM
To:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] That time in every Syncro's life





Interesting. I had the same problem. I'm seriously thinking about converting
mine over to a Volvo B23 engine. Same power and bullet proof. 

Will keep you all in the loop on what I do. :)

On Friday, April 4, 2014, Nicholas Fletcher <nwjfletcher@yahoo.com> wrote:



HI, 

Our beloved Syncro has the dreaded head gasket leak so needs the job doing,
plus a bit of a tune up and so on. 



We are in Victoria but I am happy to drive quite a long way for the best
mechanic for the job. Does anyone have a recommended mechanic that would
also provide some kind of warranty for the work? And how much should it
cost? ( I think it should be a couple of thousand)



many thanks

Nick







Messages in this topic (10)
________________________________________________________________________
1e. Re: That time in every Syncro's life
  Posted by: "Les Harris"leslieharris@optusnet.com.ausyncroaustralia
  Date: Thu Apr 3, 2014 3:30 pm ((PDT))

Bob,

The studs do not corrode so long as the correct coolant is used.

Les

_____  

From:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Robert Dale
Sent: 04 April 2014 09:23
To:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] That time in every Syncro's life  

Nick;

When you are getting prices ask how much it will cost to have s/steel head
studs fitted over normal units this should stop the corrosion problems that
can cause the head to leak.

Bob 





Messages in this topic (10)
________________________________________________________________________
1f. Re: That time in every Syncro's life
  Posted by: "Greg Esposito"gregespo73@yahoo.comgregespo73
  Date: Thu Apr 3, 2014 3:58 pm ((PDT))

Nick, Where in Victoria are you? How many kms on the engine? 


________________________________
From: Nicholas Fletcher <nwjfletcher@yahoo.com>
To: "syncro_t3_australia@yahoogroups.com" <syncro_t3_australia@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, 4 April 2014 8:34 AM
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] That time in every Syncro's life




HI, 
Our beloved Syncro has the dreaded head gasket leak so needs the job doing, plus a bit of a tune up and so on. 

We are in Victoria but I am happy to drive quite a long way for the best mechanic for the job. Does anyone have a recommended mechanic that would also provide some kind of warranty for the work? And how much should it cost? ( I think it should be a couple of thousand)

many thanks
Nick  




Messages in this topic (10)
________________________________________________________________________
1g. Re: That time in every Syncro's life
  Posted by: "Robert Dale"rcdale@bigpond.comrobertdale1945
  Date: Thu Apr 3, 2014 4:03 pm ((PDT))

true



From:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Les Harris
Sent: Friday, 4 April 2014 9:30 AM
To:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] That time in every Syncro's life





Bob,

The studs do not corrode so long as the correct coolant is used.

Les

_____  

From:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Robert Dale
Sent: 04 April 2014 09:23
To:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] That time in every Syncro's life  

Nick;

When you are getting prices ask how much it will cost to have s/steel head
studs fitted over normal units this should stop the corrosion problems that
can cause the head to leak.

Bob 







Messages in this topic (10)
________________________________________________________________________
1h. Re: That time in every Syncro's life
  Posted by: "Tony Marshall"logwood_1@yahoo.com.aulogwood_1
  Date: Thu Apr 3, 2014 6:26 pm ((PDT))

Nick<br/><br/>Had mind done a few years back at Volkwerke in Greensborough Melb.. It cost me around $1600 from memory. Had new lifters installed at the same time. I was lucky enough to have the complete job done in a day. Lloyd is the man. <br/><br/>Good luck <br/><br/>Tony (Ballarat)<a href="https://overview.mail.yahoo.com?.src=iOS"><br/><br/>Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone</a>



Messages in this topic (10)
________________________________________________________________________
1i. Re: That time in every Syncro's life
  Posted by: "Les Harris"leslieharris@optusnet.com.ausyncroaustralia
  Date: Thu Apr 3, 2014 6:35 pm ((PDT))

A bit of further information about Volkwerke - Lloy

(Message over 64 KB, truncated)
I disagree Hamish, there is no need to replace studs that have no signs of corrosion. Original heads will always have corrosion on the surface because of the crap sealant the factory used - good coolant or not. The studs however will be like new if the engine has had any type of coolant in it for life.
From: HamishD <dobson_hamish@yahoo.com.au>
To: "Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com" <Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, 4 April 2014 11:26 PM
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Leak head

 
Any rebuild should get new head studs fitted !

Try Tooley imports or go westy for new studs.

The issue when rebuilding is getting your old head studs out from a labor point of view.

Best practice is to leave your case halves out In the sun studs up and dig out the bases of the stud to form a cavity to store a good quality stud remover lubricant to sit in. As the case heats up in the sun keep giving each stud a spray again. Give it a day it two. Then install case in a proper stand and get a good sized hammer and give each stud a bloody good wack maybe once or twice or even three times on its end!! Then u really only get one go at unscrewing it. Worst case is it snaps! 
If if does well then be prepared to take ages getting the remainder out and make sure you don't damage the thread too much - a helicoil can be used here.

Alternatively try heating up the block where the stud seats with a oxy briefly and then spray it with the lubricant working on the principle that AL exp faster than the steel stud therefore breaking the seal and allowing lub in.

To be honnest most leaking heads are a result of not running the correct coolant or lack of it and simply a corroded head surface. But if that's the case the head studs will also be pitted leading to either a broken head stud or you breaking it when trying to remove it or re tension it.

The Key is to run the correct coolant always!

Sent from my iPhone

On 4 Apr 2014, at 6:47 pm,Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com wrote:

There are 10 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1a. That time in every Syncro's life    
  From: Nicholas Fletcher
1b. Re: That time in every Syncro's life    
  From: Steve Clarke
1c. Re: That time in every Syncro's life    
  From: Les Harris
1d. Re: That time in every Syncro's life    
  From: Robert Dale
1e. Re: That time in every Syncro's life    
  From: Les Harris
1f. Re: That time in every Syncro's life    
  From: Greg Esposito
1g. Re: That time in every Syncro's life    
  From: Robert Dale
1h. Re: That time in every Syncro's life    
  From: Tony Marshall
1i. Re: That time in every Syncro's life    
  From: Les Harris
1j. Re: That time in every Syncro's life    
  From: Nick Fletcher


Messages
________________________________________________________________________
1a. That time in every Syncro's life
  Posted by: "Nicholas Fletcher"nwjfletcher@yahoo.com nwjfletcher
  Date: Thu Apr 3, 2014 2:34 pm ((PDT))

HI, 
Our beloved Syncro has the dreaded head gasket leak so needs the job doing, plus a bit of a tune up and so on. 

We are in Victoria but I am happy to drive quite a long way for the best mechanic for the job. Does anyone have a recommended mechanic that would also provide some kind of warranty for the work? And how much should it cost? ( I think it should be a couple of thousand)

many thanks
Nick



Messages in this topic (10)
________________________________________________________________________
1b. Re: That time in every Syncro's life
  Posted by: "Steve Clarke"sclarke7171@gmail.comsclarke7171
  Date: Thu Apr 3, 2014 2:53 pm ((PDT))

Interesting. I had the same problem. I'm seriously thinking about
converting mine over to a Volvo B23 engine. Same power and bullet proof.
Will keep you all in the loop on what I do. :)

On Friday, April 4, 2014, Nicholas Fletcher <nwjfletcher@yahoo.com> wrote:



HI,
Our beloved Syncro has the dreaded head gasket leak so needs the job
doing, plus a bit of a tune up and so on.

We are in Victoria but I am happy to drive quite a long way for the best
mechanic for the job. Does anyone have a recommended mechanic that would
also provide some kind of warranty for the work? And how much should it
cost? ( I think it should be a couple of thousand)

many thanks
Nick




Messages in this topic (10)
________________________________________________________________________
1c. Re: That time in every Syncro's life
  Posted by: "Les Harris"leslieharris@optusnet.com.ausyncroaustralia
  Date: Thu Apr 3, 2014 3:08 pm ((PDT))

Nick,

You are a long way from anywhere so you might as well go to the best
workshop - Volkwerke at Greensborough.  They are long established, much
respected and very reliable.  Speak to Lloyd Davies (owner) and tell him
that you are a member of Syncro_T3_Australia.

Les

_____  

From:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Nicholas Fletcher
Sent: 04 April 2014 08:34
To:syncro_t3_australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] That time in every Syncro's life  

HI, 

Our beloved Syncro has the dreaded head gasket leak so needs the job doing,
plus a bit of a tune up and so on. 

We are in Victoria but I am happy to drive quite a long way for the best
mechanic for the job. Does anyone have a recommended mechanic that would
also provide some kind of warranty for the work? And how much should it
cost? ( I think it should be a couple of thousand)

many thanks

Nick





Messages in this topic (10)
________________________________________________________________________
1d. Re: That time in every Syncro's life
  Posted by: "Robert Dale"rcdale@bigpond.comrobertdale1945
  Date: Thu Apr 3, 2014 3:23 pm ((PDT))

Nick;

When you are getting prices ask how much it will cost to have s/steel head
studs fitted over normal units this should stop the corrosion problems that
can cause the head to leak.

Bob 



From:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve Clarke
Sent: Friday, 4 April 2014 8:54 AM
To:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] That time in every Syncro's life





Interesting. I had the same problem. I'm seriously thinking about converting
mine over to a Volvo B23 engine. Same power and bullet proof. 

Will keep you all in the loop on what I do. :)

On Friday, April 4, 2014, Nicholas Fletcher <nwjfletcher@yahoo.com> wrote:



HI, 

Our beloved Syncro has the dreaded head gasket leak so needs the job doing,
plus a bit of a tune up and so on. 



We are in Victoria but I am happy to drive quite a long way for the best
mechanic for the job. Does anyone have a recommended mechanic that would
also provide some kind of warranty for the work? And how much should it
cost? ( I think it should be a couple of thousand)



many thanks

Nick







Messages in this topic (10)
________________________________________________________________________
1e. Re: That time in every Syncro's life
  Posted by: "Les Harris"leslieharris@optusnet.com.ausyncroaustralia
  Date: Thu Apr 3, 2014 3:30 pm ((PDT))

Bob,

The studs do not corrode so long as the correct coolant is used.

Les

_____  

From:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Robert Dale
Sent: 04 April 2014 09:23
To:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] That time in every Syncro's life  

Nick;

When you are getting prices ask how much it will cost to have s/steel head
studs fitted over normal units this should stop the corrosion problems that
can cause the head to leak.

Bob 





Messages in this topic (10)
________________________________________________________________________
1f. Re: That time in every Syncro's life
  Posted by: "Greg Esposito"gregespo73@yahoo.comgregespo73
  Date: Thu Apr 3, 2014 3:58 pm ((PDT))

Nick, Where in Victoria are you? How many kms on the engine? 


________________________________
From: Nicholas Fletcher <nwjfletcher@yahoo.com>
To: "syncro_t3_australia@yahoogroups.com" <syncro_t3_australia@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, 4 April 2014 8:34 AM
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] That time in every Syncro's life




HI, 
Our beloved Syncro has the dreaded head gasket leak so needs the job doing, plus a bit of a tune up and so on. 

We are in Victoria but I am happy to drive quite a long way for the best mechanic for the job. Does anyone have a recommended mechanic that would also provide some kind of warranty for the work? And how much should it cost? ( I think it should be a couple of thousand)

many thanks
Nick  




Messages in this topic (10)
________________________________________________________________________
1g. Re: That time in every Syncro's life
  Posted by: "Robert Dale"rcdale@bigpond.comrobertdale1945
  Date: Thu Apr 3, 2014 4:03 pm ((PDT))

true



From:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Les Harris
Sent: Friday, 4 April 2014 9:30 AM
To:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] That time in every Syncro's life





Bob,

The studs do not corrode so long as the correct coolant is used.

Les

_____  

From:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Robert Dale
Sent: 04 April 2014 09:23
To:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] That time in every Syncro's life  

Nick;

When you are getting prices ask how much it will cost to have s/steel head
studs fitted over normal units this should stop the corrosion problems that
can cause the head to leak.

Bob 







Messages in this topic (10)
________________________________________________________________________
1h. Re: That time in every Syncro's life
  Posted by: "Tony Marshall"logwood_1@yahoo.com.aulogwood_1
  Date: Thu Apr 3, 2014 6:26 pm ((PDT))

Nick<br/><br/>Had mind done a few years back at Volkwerke in Greensborough Melb.. It cost me around $1600 from memory. Had new lifters installed at the same time. I was lucky enough to have the complete job done in a day. Lloyd is the man. <br/><br/>Good luck <br/><br/>Tony (Ballarat)<a href="https://overview.mail.yahoo.com/?.src=iOS"><br/><br/>Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone</a>



Messages in this topic (10)
________________________________________________________________________
1i. Re: That time in every Syncro's life
  Posted by: "Les Harris"leslieharris@optusnet.com.ausyncroaustralia
  Date: Thu Apr 3, 2014 6:35 pm ((PDT))

A bit of further information about Volkwerke - Lloyd Davies is a lifelong
total VW person with exceptional experience.  He is also president of the VW
Club of Victoria, which is the world's oldest VW club.  In conjunction with
John Goodison (Volks Home), he is about the best source of genuine VAG
parts.

Les

_____  

From:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tony Marshall
Sent: 04 April 2014 12:27
To:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] That time in every Syncro's life


Nick
Had mind done a few years back at Volkwerke in Greensborough Melb.. It cost
me around $1600 from memory. Had new lifters installed at the same time. I
was lucky enough to have the complete job done in a day. Lloyd is the man. 
Good luck 
Tony (Ballarat) <https://overview.mail.yahoo.com/?.src=iOS









Messages in this topic (10)
________________________________________________________________________
1j. Re: That time in every Syncro's life
  Posted by: "Nick Fletcher"nwjfletcher@yahoo.com nwjfletcher
  Date: Thu Apr 3, 2014 7:03 pm ((PDT))

Hi, we are in Anglesea (nor Geelong) and engine has about 165k on it. Regards. Nick

On 4 Apr 2014, at 9:58 am, Greg Esposito <gregespo73@yahoo.com> wrote:

Nick, Where in Victoria are you? How many kms on the engine? 
From: Nicholas Fletcher <nwjfletcher@yahoo.com>
To: "syncro_t3_australia@yahoogroups.com" <syncro_t3_australia@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, 4 April 2014 8:34 AM
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] That time in every Syncro's life


HI, 
Our beloved Syncro has the dreaded head gasket leak so needs the job doing, plus a bit of a tune up and so on. 

We are in Victoria but I am happy to drive quite a long way for the best mechanic for the job. Does anyone have a recommended mechanic that would also provide some kind of warranty for the work? And how much should it cost? ( I think it should be a couple of thousand)

many thanks
Nick




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Sent from my iPhone

This is a classic case of “if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it”!!  If the studs are free of corrosion, they will remain free of corrosion so long as the specified coolant is used. 

Les


From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Greg Esposito
Sent: 05 April 2014 09:23
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Leak head

 

I disagree Hamish, there is no need to replace studs that have no signs of corrosion. Original heads will always have corrosion on the surface because of the crap sealant the factory used - good coolant or not. The studs however will be like new if the engine has had any type of coolant in it for life.

.