More engine power

Hello Syncronauts,

Has anyone used the GoWesty Engine Kit?
After installing a new oil cooler and pump,
my low oil pressure problem has still not been resolved.
According to the local VW mechanic, I might need an engine overhaul.
Not happy.

Cheers,Theo
Bummer, Theo. Sorry to hear that. What's the GoWesty engine kit?

Francesca.

On 23 June 2011 22:00, theoweiss <teows@melbpc.org.au> wrote:

Hello Syncronauts,

Has anyone used the GoWesty Engine Kit?
After installing a new oil cooler and pump,
my low oil pressure problem has still not been resolved.
According to the local VW mechanic, I might need an engine overhaul.
Not happy.

Cheers,Theo


Theo,from what I have read the standard or the 2.2 GW engine kits are good and reliable.The larger capacity engines are not very reliable and for the money,not much bang for buck.
BenC

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, Francesca Coles <fcoles6@...> wrote:
>
> Bummer, Theo. Sorry to hear that. What's the GoWesty engine kit?
>
> Francesca.
>
> On 23 June 2011 22:00, theoweiss <teows@...> wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > Hello Syncronauts,
> >
> > Has anyone used the GoWesty Engine Kit?
> > After installing a new oil cooler and pump,
> > my low oil pressure problem has still not been resolved.
> > According to the local VW mechanic, I might need an engine overhaul.
> > Not happy.
> >
> > Cheers,Theo
> >
> >
> >
>
Theo,
 
When I first bought my T2 the engine had been freshly rebuilt but it developed an oil pressure problem soon after.  No one could find the cause but I found that if I overfilled the engine with oil the problem went away.  It turned out to be a damaged O ring where the oil pickup tube seals to the oil pump.  Overfilling with oil covered the leaking seal and stopped the pump from sucking air.  The engine was stripped before we found the problem but afterwards my mechanic worked out that he could have replaced the O ring without stripping the case if we had known what it was.  Not sure whether this could happen to a WBX but may be worth overfilling with oil to try it??
 
Neil.  


From: theoweiss <teows@melbpc.org.au>
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, 23 June, 2011 10:00:05 PM
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] More engine power

 

Hello Syncronauts,

Has anyone used the GoWesty Engine Kit?
After installing a new oil cooler and pump,
my low oil pressure problem has still not been resolved.
According to the local VW mechanic, I might need an engine overhaul.
Not happy.

Cheers,Theo

 Neil,
 
 Thanks for the tip, but it didn't make any difference. Next week the engine will be dismantled by the local VW mechanic, ouch!.
 
 Theo
 
 
At 09:20 AM 24/06/2011, you wrote:
 

Theo,
 
When I first bought my T2 the engine had been freshly rebuilt but it developed an oil pressure problem soon after.  No one could find the cause but I found that if I overfilled the engine with oil the problem went away.  It turned out to be a damaged O ring where the oil pickup tube seals to the oil pump.  Overfilling with oil covered the leaking seal and stopped the pump from sucking air.  The engine was stripped before we found the problem but afterwards my mechanic worked out that he could have replaced the O ring without stripping the case if we had known what it was.  Not sure whether this could happen to a WBX but may be worth overfilling with oil to try it??
 
Neil. 


From: theoweiss <teows@melbpc.org.au>
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, 23 June, 2011 10:00:05 PM
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] More engine power

 

Hello Syncronauts,

Has anyone used the GoWesty Engine Kit?
After installing a new oil cooler and pump,
my low oil pressure problem has still not been resolved.
According to the local VW mechanic, I might need an engine overhaul.
Not happy.

Cheers,Theo

theo have you tried the oil pressure relief valve. the springs often break or the valve could jamn. greg e

On Wed, 20 Jul 2011 22:24 EST Theo Weiss wrote:

> Neil,
>
> Thanks for the tip, but it didn't make any difference. Next week the engine will be dismantled by the local VW mechanic, ouch!.
>
> Theo
>
>
>At 09:20 AM 24/06/2011, you wrote:
>>
>>
>> Theo,
>>
>> When I first bought my T2 the engine had been freshly rebuilt but it developed an oil pressure problem soon after. No one could find the cause but I found that if I overfilled the engine with oil the problem went away. It turned out to be a damaged O ring where the oil pickup tube seals to the oil pump. Overfilling with oil covered the leaking seal and stopped the pump from sucking air. The engine was stripped before we found the problem but afterwards my mechanic worked out that he could have replaced the O ring without stripping the case if we had known what it was. Not sure whether this could happen to a WBX but may be worth overfilling with oil to try it??
>>
>> Neil.
>>
>>
>> From: theoweiss <teows@melbpc.org.au>
>> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
>> Sent: Thu, 23 June, 2011 10:00:05 PM
>> Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] More engine power
>>
>>
>>
>> Hello Syncronauts,
>>
>> Has anyone used the GoWesty Engine Kit?
>> After installing a new oil cooler and pump,
>> my low oil pressure problem has still not been resolved.
>> According to the local VW mechanic, I might need an engine overhaul.
>> Not happy.
>>
>> Cheers,Theo
>>
>>
 Greg,
 
 Yes - checked the pressure relief valve - even beefed it up with a washer. More pressure when cold but as soon the engine reaches operating temperature, oil pressure falls right back.Other wise engine runs fine, However with all the spark plugs removed, I couldn't turn the crankshaft by hand,  maybe a seized bearing ?? So to the operating table next week.
I did all I could - new oil pump,new oil cooler different engine oil.
 
 Theo
  

At 12:29 AM 21/07/2011, you wrote:
 

theo have you tried the oil pressure relief valve. the springs often break or the valve could jamn. greg e

On Wed, 20 Jul 2011 22:24 EST Theo Weiss wrote:

> Neil,
>
> Thanks for the tip, but it didn't make any difference. Next week the engine will be dismantled by the local VW mechanic, ouch!.
>
> Theo
>
>
>At 09:20 AM 24/06/2011, you wrote:
>>
>>
>> Theo,
>>
>> When I first bought my T2 the engine had been freshly rebuilt but it developed an oil pressure problem soon after. No one could find the cause but I found that if I overfilled the engine with oil the problem went away. It turned out to be a damaged O ring where the oil pickup tube seals to the oil pump. Overfilling with oil covered the leaking seal and stopped the pump from sucking air. The engine was stripped before we found the problem but afterwards my mechanic worked out that he could have replaced the O ring without stripping the case if we had known what it was. Not sure whether this could happen to a WBX but may be worth overfilling with oil to try it??
>>
>> Neil.
>>
>>
>> From: theoweiss <teows@melbpc.org.au>
>> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
>> Sent: Thu, 23 June, 2011 10:00:05 PM
>> Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] More engine power
>>
>>
>>
>> Hello Syncronauts,
>>
>> Has anyone used the GoWesty Engine Kit?
>> After installing a new oil cooler and pump,
>> my low oil pressure problem has still not been resolved.
>> According to the local VW mechanic, I might need an engine overhaul.
>> Not happy.
>>
>> Cheers,Theo
>>
>>

Theo, have you measured your engine temp....more so oil temp ?common problem with older t3's is the lack of correct engine cooling due to sediment build up within the radiator and between the cooling fins on the out side.......do yourself a favour before you pull it apart...hot oil = low pressure....most symptoms occur after a good hard drive and then a slow down to idle and buzzer is activated......further more a hard line oil guage will tell the story too....test is simple....use a 20w oil not a 15w or less...will be keen to hear your results cheers steve

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, Theo Weiss <teows@...> wrote:
>
> Greg,
>
> Yes - checked the pressure relief valve - even
> beefed it up with a washer. More pressure when
> cold but as soon the engine reaches operating
> temperature, oil pressure falls right back.Other
> wise engine runs fine, However with all the spark
> plugs removed, I couldn't turn the crankshaft by
> hand, maybe a seized bearing ?? So to the operating table next week.
> I did all I could - new oil pump,new oil cooler different engine oil.
>
> Theo
>
>
> At 12:29 AM 21/07/2011, you wrote:
> >
> >
> >theo have you tried the oil pressure relief
> >valve. the springs often break or the valve could jamn. greg e
> >
> >On Wed, 20 Jul 2011 22:24 EST Theo Weiss wrote:
> >
> > > Neil,
> > >
> > > Thanks for the tip, but it didn't make any
> > difference. Next week the engine will be
> > dismantled by the local VW mechanic, ouch!.
> > >
> > > Theo
> > >
> > >
> > >At 09:20 AM 24/06/2011, you wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Theo,
> > >>
> > >> When I first bought my T2 the engine had
> > been freshly rebuilt but it developed an oil
> > pressure problem soon after. No one could find
> > the cause but I found that if I overfilled the
> > engine with oil the problem went away. It
> > turned out to be a damaged O ring where the oil
> > pickup tube seals to the oil pump. Overfilling
> > with oil covered the leaking seal and stopped
> > the pump from sucking air. The engine was
> > stripped before we found the problem but
> > afterwards my mechanic worked out that he could
> > have replaced the O ring without stripping the
> > case if we had known what it was. Not sure
> > whether this could happen to a WBX but may be
> > worth overfilling with oil to try it??
> > >>
> > >> Neil.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> From: theoweiss <<mailto:teows%40melbpc.org.au>teows@...>
> > >> To:
> > <mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com>Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > >> Sent: Thu, 23 June, 2011 10:00:05 PM
> > >> Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] More engine power
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Hello Syncronauts,
> > >>
> > >> Has anyone used the GoWesty Engine Kit?
> > >> After installing a new oil cooler and pump,
> > >> my low oil pressure problem has still not been resolved.
> > >> According to the local VW mechanic, I might need an engine overhaul.
> > >> Not happy.
> > >>
> > >> Cheers,Theo
> > >>
> > >>
> >
> >
>

Ps...you won’t be able to turn the crank by hand with only plugs out....

 

From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve Muller
Sent: Sunday, 24 July 2011 4:37 PM
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: More engine power

 

 

Theo, have you measured your engine temp....more so oil temp ?common problem with older t3's is the lack of correct engine cooling due to sediment build up within the radiator and between the cooling fins on the out side.......do yourself a favour before you pull it apart...hot oil = low pressure....most symptoms occur after a good hard drive and then a slow down to idle and buzzer is activated......further more a hard line oil guage will tell the story too....test is simple....use a 20w oil not a 15w or less...will be keen to hear your results cheers steve

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, Theo Weiss <teows@...> wrote:
>
> Greg,
>
> Yes - checked the pressure relief valve - even
> beefed it up with a washer. More pressure when
> cold but as soon the engine reaches operating
> temperature, oil pressure falls right back.Other
> wise engine runs fine, However with all the spark
> plugs removed, I couldn't turn the crankshaft by
> hand, maybe a seized bearing ?? So to the operating table next week.
> I did all I could - new oil pump,new oil cooler different engine oil.
>
> Theo
>
>
> At 12:29 AM 21/07/2011, you wrote:
> >
> >
> >theo have you tried the oil pressure relief
> >valve. the springs often break or the valve could jamn. greg e
> >
> >On Wed, 20 Jul 2011 22:24 EST Theo Weiss wrote:
> >
> > > Neil,
> > >
> > > Thanks for the tip, but it didn't make any
> > difference. Next week the engine will be
> > dismantled by the local VW mechanic, ouch!.
> > >
> > > Theo
> > >
> > >
> > >At 09:20 AM 24/06/2011, you wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Theo,
> > >>
> > >> When I first bought my T2 the engine had
> > been freshly rebuilt but it developed an oil
> > pressure problem soon after. No one could find
> > the cause but I found that if I overfilled the
> > engine with oil the problem went away. It
> > turned out to be a damaged O ring where the oil
> > pickup tube seals to the oil pump. Overfilling
> > with oil covered the leaking seal and stopped
> > the pump from sucking air. The engine was
> > stripped before we found the problem but
> > afterwards my mechanic worked out that he could
> > have replaced the O ring without stripping the
> > case if we had known what it was. Not sure
> > whether this could happen to a WBX but may be
> > worth overfilling with oil to try it??
> > >>
> > >> Neil.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> From: theoweiss <<mailto:teows%40melbpc.org.au>teows@...>
> > >> To:
> > <mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com>Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > >> Sent: Thu, 23 June, 2011 10:00:05 PM
> > >> Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] More engine power
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Hello Syncronauts,
> > >>
> > >> Has anyone used the GoWesty Engine Kit?
> > >> After installing a new oil cooler and pump,
> > >> my low oil pressure problem has still not been resolved.
> > >> According to the local VW mechanic, I might need an engine overhaul.
> > >> Not happy.
> > >>
> > >> Cheers,Theo
> > >>
> > >>
> >
> >
>



--- On Sun, 24/7/11, Steve Muller <stephenmuller@kombirescue.com.au> wrote:

From: Steve Muller <stephenmuller@kombirescue.com.au>
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: More engine power
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Received: Sunday, 24 July, 2011, 2:37 PM

 
Theo, have you measured your engine temp....more so oil temp ?common problem with older t3's is the lack of correct engine cooling due to sediment build up within the radiator and between the cooling fins on the out side.......do yourself a favour before you pull it apart...hot oil = low pressure....most symptoms occur after a good hard drive and then a slow down to idle and buzzer is activated......further more a hard line oil guage will tell the story too....test is simple....use a 20w oil not a 15w or less...will be keen to hear your results cheers steve

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, Theo Weiss <teows@...> wrote:
>
> Greg,
>
> Yes - checked the pressure relief valve - even
> beefed it up with a washer. More pressure when
> cold but as soon the engine reaches operating
> temperature, oil pressure falls right back.Other
> wise engine runs fine, However with all the spark
> plugs removed, I couldn't turn the crankshaft by
> hand, maybe a seized bearing ?? So to the operating table next week.
> I did all I could - new oil pump,new oil cooler different engine oil.
>
> Theo
>
>
> At 12:29 AM 21/07/2011, you wrote:
> >
> >
> >theo have you tried the oil pressure relief
> >valve. the springs often break or the valve could jamn. greg e
> >
> >On Wed, 20 Jul 2011 22:24 EST Theo Weiss wrote:
> >
> > > Neil,
> > >
> > > Thanks for the tip, but it didn't make any
> > difference. Next week the engine will be
> > dismantled by the local VW mechanic, ouch!.
> > >
> > > Theo
> > >
> > >
> > >At 09:20 AM 24/06/2011, you wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Theo,
> > >>
> > >> When I first bought my T2 the engine had
> > been freshly rebuilt but it developed an oil
> > pressure problem soon after. No one could find
> > the cause but I found that if I overfilled the
> > engine with oil the problem went away. It
> > turned out to be a damaged O ring where the oil
> > pickup tube seals to the oil pump. Overfilling
> > with oil covered the leaking seal and stopped
> > the pump from sucking air. The engine was
> > stripped before we found the problem but
> > afterwards my mechanic worked out that he could
> > have replaced the O ring without stripping the
> > case if we had known what it was. Not sure
> > whether this could happen to a WBX but may be
> > worth overfilling with oil to try it??
> > >>
> > >> Neil.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> From: theoweiss <<mailto:teows%40melbpc.org.au>teows@...>
> > >> To:
> > <mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com>Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > >> Sent: Thu, 23 June, 2011 10:00:05 PM
> > >> Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] More engine power
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Hello Syncronauts,
> > >>
> > >> Has anyone used the GoWesty Engine Kit?
> > >> After installing a new oil cooler and pump,
> > >> my low oil pressure problem has still not been resolved.
> > >> According to the local VW mechanic, I might need an engine overhaul.
> > >> Not happy.
> > >>
> > >> Cheers,Theo
> > >>
> > >>
> >
> >
>

Theo,
Steve's answer reflects more experience but my recent Caravelle purchase open me up to no end of trouble fixing a "faulty" oil pressure warning light. It had had the sensor replaced but still flashed despite a hard wired gauge showing the correct pressure was being sent. It was thought to be a fault on the dashboard printed circuit so off to such an expert who could find nothing wrong. Finally turned out the wrong value sendor had been used apparently 2 are listed) and all is now well.  Like Steve it may just solve your problem simply without the engine rebuild.
 
I've just had a similar experience. I'm off to Tassie in the Caravelle tomorrow and yesterday after borrowing it my son walked home saying it would start but kept dying on him.It had coughed a bit when I was out in it earlier which I had put down to the cold weather.I was looking at all sorts of adverse consequences if I don't get on the ferry tomorrow night(I'm bringing back a trailer and my Camper doesn't have a tow bar). I cycled down to where my van had been left thinking I would see if I could get it home by disconnecting the exhaust oxygen sensor but when I tried it out noticed the switch to the empty  auxilary tank had been switched over. Switched it back churned the starter for a bit and all is running sweetly again. Grandson is under suspicion but my whole situation changed around for the better. Hope it turns out something as simple for you but it reinforced what someone told me a long time ago. Always try to eliminate the simple causes first.
Good luck
Roger

Roger you are right, just assumed the correct switches are fitted as it sounds likeits a vw mechanic he is going too.......but you never know...tip no2 buy a genuine switch for both high pressure and low pressure ....the tooley import ones did have a bad batch through about 12mths ago....think they are all ok now , another issue is also the printed circut on the dash and secondly if there are extra electronics fitted and dash can also play havoc....do have a test dash that reads good if some one needs to borrow. Be sure to test the wiring and plug in engine compartment as they become very brittle over many heat cycles.

 

From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Roger Bell
Sent: Sunday, 24 July 2011 5:29 PM
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: More engine power

 

 



--- On Sun, 24/7/11, Steve Muller <stephenmuller@kombirescue.com.au> wrote:


From: Steve Muller <stephenmuller@kombirescue.com.au>
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: More engine power
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Received: Sunday, 24 July, 2011, 2:37 PM

 

Theo, have you measured your engine temp....more so oil temp ?common problem with older t3's is the lack of correct engine cooling due to sediment build up within the radiator and between the cooling fins on the out side.......do yourself a favour before you pull it apart...hot oil = low pressure....most symptoms occur after a good hard drive and then a slow down to idle and buzzer is activated......further more a hard line oil guage will tell the story too....test is simple....use a 20w oil not a 15w or less...will be keen to hear your results cheers steve

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, Theo Weiss <teows@...> wrote:
>
> Greg,
>
> Yes - checked the pressure relief valve - even
> beefed it up with a washer. More pressure when
> cold but as soon the engine reaches operating
> temperature, oil pressure falls right back.Other
> wise engine runs fine, However with all the spark
> plugs removed, I couldn't turn the crankshaft by
> hand, maybe a seized bearing ?? So to the operating table next week.
> I did all I could - new oil pump,new oil cooler different engine oil.
>
> Theo
>
>
> At 12:29 AM 21/07/2011, you wrote:
> >
> >
> >theo have you tried the oil pressure relief
> >valve. the springs often break or the valve could jamn. greg e
> >
> >On Wed, 20 Jul 2011 22:24 EST Theo Weiss wrote:
> >
> > > Neil,
> > >
> > > Thanks for the tip, but it didn't make any
> > difference. Next week the engine will be
> > dismantled by the local VW mechanic, ouch!.
> > >
> > > Theo
> > >
> > >
> > >At 09:20 AM 24/06/2011, you wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Theo,
> > >>
> > >> When I first bought my T2 the engine had
> > been freshly rebuilt but it developed an oil
> > pressure problem soon after. No one could find
> > the cause but I found that if I overfilled the
> > engine with oil the problem went away. It
> > turned out to be a damaged O ring where the oil
> > pickup tube seals to the oil pump. Overfilling
> > with oil covered the leaking seal and stopped
> > the pump from sucking air. The engine was
> > stripped before we found the problem but
> > afterwards my mechanic worked out that he could
> > have replaced the O ring without stripping the
> > case if we had known what it was. Not sure
> > whether this could happen to a WBX but may be
> > worth overfilling with oil to try it??
> > >>
> > >> Neil.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> From: theoweiss <<mailto:teows%40melbpc.org.au>teows@...>
> > >> To:
> > <mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com>Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > >> Sent: Thu, 23 June, 2011 10:00:05 PM
> > >> Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] More engine power
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Hello Syncronauts,
> > >>
> > >> Has anyone used the GoWesty Engine Kit?
> > >> After installing a new oil cooler and pump,
> > >> my low oil pressure problem has still not been resolved.
> > >> According to the local VW mechanic, I might need an engine overhaul.
> > >> Not happy.
> > >>
> > >> Cheers,Theo
> > >>
> > >>
> >
> >
>

Theo,

Steve's answer reflects more experience but my recent Caravelle purchase open me up to no end of trouble fixing a "faulty" oil pressure warning light. It had had the sensor replaced but still flashed despite a hard wired gauge showing the correct pressure was being sent. It was thought to be a fault on the dashboard printed circuit so off to such an expert who could find nothing wrong. Finally turned out the wrong value sendor had been used apparently 2 are listed) and all is now well.  Like Steve it may just solve your problem simply without the engine rebuild.

 

I've just had a similar experience. I'm off to Tassie in the Caravelle tomorrow and yesterday after borrowing it my son walked home saying it would start but kept dying on him.It had coughed a bit when I was out in it earlier which I had put down to the cold weather.I was looking at all sorts of adverse consequences if I don't get on the ferry tomorrow night(I'm bringing back a trailer and my Camper doesn't have a tow bar). I cycled down to where my van had been left thinking I would see if I could get it home by disconnecting the exhaust oxygen sensor but when I tried it out noticed the switch to the empty  auxilary tank had been switched over. Switched it back churned the starter for a bit and all is running sweetly again. Grandson is under suspicion but my whole situation changed around for the better. Hope it turns out something as simple for you but it reinforced what someone told me a long time ago. Always try to eliminate the simple causes first.

Good luck

Roger

Steve, Roger,

Thanks for your advice. ,As previously posted the radiator was cleaned and pressure tested.The Van has a hard line oil gauge and a temperature gauge installed for years. If not for those gauges, I would not know I had a problem - no buzzer or idiot light are activated.
By the way, I have an ulterior reason to pull the engine apart -  thereby receiving my next 10 years'  x'mas present in one hit.
I bought a GoWesty 2400cc engine kit to be installed, but not sure if this is such a good idea. Will keep you posted.
However, it will be weeks as I still need to get more parts.

Cheers. Theo


At 04:37 PM 24/07/2011, you wrote:
 

Theo, have you measured your engine temp....more so oil temp ?common problem with older t3's is the lack of correct engine cooling due to sediment build up within the radiator and between the cooling fins on the out side.......do yourself a favour before you pull it apart...hot oil = low pressure....most symptoms occur after a good hard drive and then a slow down to idle and buzzer is activated......further more a hard line oil guage will tell the story too....test is simple....use a 20w oil not a 15w or less...will be keen to hear your results cheers steve

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, Theo Weiss <teows@...> wrote:
>
> Greg,
>
> Yes - checked the pressure relief valve - even
> beefed it up with a washer. More pressure when
> cold but as soon the engine reaches operating
> temperature, oil pressure falls right back.Other
> wise engine runs fine, However with all the spark
> plugs removed, I couldn't turn the crankshaft by
> hand, maybe a seized bearing ?? So to the operating table next week.
> I did all I could - new oil pump,new oil cooler different engine oil.
>
> Theo
>
>
> At 12:29 AM 21/07/2011, you wrote:
> >
> >
> >theo have you tried the oil pressure relief
> >valve. the springs often break or the valve could jamn. greg e
> >
> >On Wed, 20 Jul 2011 22:24 EST Theo Weiss wrote:
> >
> > > Neil,
> > >
> > > Thanks for the tip, but it didn't make any
> > difference. Next week the engine will be
> > dismantled by the local VW mechanic, ouch!.
> > >
> > > Theo
> > >
> > >
> > >At 09:20 AM 24/06/2011, you wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Theo,
> > >>
> > >> When I first bought my T2 the engine had
> > been freshly rebuilt but it developed an oil
> > pressure problem soon after. No one could find
> > the cause but I found that if I overfilled the
> > engine with oil the problem went away. It
> > turned out to be a damaged O ring where the oil
> > pickup tube seals to the oil pump. Overfilling
> > with oil covered the leaking seal and stopped
> > the pump from sucking air. The engine was
> > stripped before we found the problem but
> > afterwards my mechanic worked out that he could
> > have replaced the O ring without stripping the
> > case if we had known what it was. Not sure
> > whether this could happen to a WBX but may be
> > worth overfilling with oil to try it??
> > >>
> > >> Neil.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> From: theoweiss << mailto:teows%40melbpc.org.au>teows@...>
> > >> To:
> > < mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com>Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > >> Sent: Thu, 23 June, 2011 10:00:05 PM
> > >> Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] More engine power
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Hello Syncronauts,
> > >>
> > >> Has anyone used the GoWesty Engine Kit?
> > >> After installing a new oil cooler and pump,
> > >> my low oil pressure problem has still not been resolved.
> > >> According to the local VW mechanic, I might need an engine overhaul.
> > >> Not happy.
> > >>
> > >> Cheers,Theo
> > >>
> > >>
> >
> >
>

I would be pissing off the guage...idiot light is my best friend...so many gauges are out of range..BUT  2.4 is the way to go , torque will be your best friend.....when you land the kit I will be interested on the piston reference number, and ask for a cam shaft profile card. The stroke was not the issue but actual piston quality in the early days of GW kit but all good now...Oettinger used a larger piston / barrel size 98mm compared to GW of 96mm. What interests me is the piston crown on the GW compared to that of the OE 2.5 kit.....what engine studs do GW recommend ?  cheers steve

 

From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Theo Weiss
Sent: Sunday, 24 July 2011 8:17 PM
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: More engine power

 

 

Steve, Roger,

Thanks for your advice. ,As previously posted the radiator was cleaned and pressure tested.The Van has a hard line oil gauge and a temperature gauge installed for years. If not for those gauges, I would not know I had a problem - no buzzer or idiot light are activated.
By the way, I have an ulterior reason to pull the engine apart -  thereby receiving my next 10 years'  x'mas present in one hit.
I bought a GoWesty 2400cc engine kit to be installed, but not sure if this is such a good idea. Will keep you posted.
However, it will be weeks as I still need to get more parts.

Cheers. Theo


At 04:37 PM 24/07/2011, you wrote:

 

Theo, have you measured your engine temp....more so oil temp ?common problem with older t3's is the lack of correct engine cooling due to sediment build up within the radiator and between the cooling fins on the out side.......do yourself a favour before you pull it apart...hot oil = low pressure....most symptoms occur after a good hard drive and then a slow down to idle and buzzer is activated......further more a hard line oil guage will tell the story too....test is simple....use a 20w oil not a 15w or less...will be keen to hear your results cheers steve

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, Theo Weiss <teows@...> wrote:
>
> Greg,
>
> Yes - checked the pressure relief valve - even
> beefed it up with a washer. More pressure when
> cold but as soon the engine reaches operating
> temperature, oil pressure falls right back.Other
> wise engine runs fine, However with all the spark
> plugs removed, I couldn't turn the crankshaft by
> hand, maybe a seized bearing ?? So to the operating table next week.
> I did all I could - new oil pump,new oil cooler different engine oil.
>
> Theo
>
>
> At 12:29 AM 21/07/2011, you wrote:
> >
> >
> >theo have you tried the oil pressure relief
> >valve. the springs often break or the valve could jamn. greg e
> >
> >On Wed, 20 Jul 2011 22:24 EST Theo Weiss wrote:
> >
> > > Neil,
> > >
> > > Thanks for the tip, but it didn't make any
> > difference. Next week the engine will be
> > dismantled by the local VW mechanic, ouch!.
> > >
> > > Theo
> > >
> > >
> > >At 09:20 AM 24/06/2011, you wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Theo,
> > >>
> > >> When I first bought my T2 the engine had
> > been freshly rebuilt but it developed an oil
> > pressure problem soon after. No one could find
> > the cause but I found that if I overfilled the
> > engine with oil the problem went away. It
> > turned out to be a damaged O ring where the oil
> > pickup tube seals to the oil pump. Overfilling
> > with oil covered the leaking seal and stopped
> > the pump from sucking air. The engine was
> > stripped before we found the problem but
> > afterwards my mechanic worked out that he could
> > have replaced the O ring without stripping the
> > case if we had known what it was. Not sure
> > whether this could happen to a WBX but may be
> > worth overfilling with oil to try it??
> > >>
> > >> Neil.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> From: theoweiss << mailto:teows%40melbpc.org.au>teows@...>
> > >> To:
> > < mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com>Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > >> Sent: Thu, 23 June, 2011 10:00:05 PM
> > >> Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] More engine power
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Hello Syncronauts,
> > >>
> > >> Has anyone used the GoWesty Engine Kit?
> > >> After installing a new oil cooler and pump,
> > >> my low oil pressure problem has still not been resolved.
> > >> According to the local VW mechanic, I might need an engine overhaul.
> > >> Not happy.
> > >>
> > >> Cheers,Theo
> > >>
> > >>
> >
> >
>

I'd say you sure can easily turn the crank by hand with the spark plugs out.
even by pressing down on the alt belt with you hand and turning the alternator pulley , by hand.
 
you do feel valve spring pressure of course..
so some resistance there ..
but otherwise..
sure should be able to turn it fairly easily.
 
besides checking the oil pressure with a gauge  ..
which more and more is a definitive way to get an idea of what the oil clearance is ...
this is seldom done..
but it's very effective.
You send the oil out to an oil lab for analysis.
They tell you about 25 things about the oil..
if there is fuel or coolant in it..
if there are unusual levels of chrome, tin, antimony ,copper , etc..
and ..they flag those,
and say what that is likely to mean.
high chrome would likely be worn rings ,
high copper or tin ...bearings.
I haven't done it for a while....
in the past I paid about $ 48 US to send in a sample to an oil lab.
 
on one customer's engine ....happened to be a Volvo ..
the engine was just noisy and weak, in a nebulous way.
Oil analysis said........yep, it's on its last legs.
 
consider that.
it's a quite useful test- oil analysis.
In any serious engine maintenance  program, like say, in trucking ..
oil samples are sent in every say 25,000 miles and any dramatic change in the levels of what's in the oil ...tells you something is going on wear-wise inside the engine.  
 if the trend in what's in the oil stays roughly the same over many miles....things are likely good.
 
anyway ..consider that, oil analysis.
 
sounds like too large oil clearances to me.
2.1 waterboxer engines do that with many miles on them.
Engine rebuilder people tell me the right way to rebuild on is with the non-stretch type 1.9 wbxr connecting rod bolts. ..since that is part of the problem about 2.1's ...stretch rod bolts that eventually aren't up to the job .
 
Scott
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2011 11:39 PM
Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: More engine power

 

Ps...you won’t be able to turn the crank by hand with only plugs out....

From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve Muller
Sent: Sunday, 24 July 2011 4:37 PM
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: More engine power

 

Theo, have you measured your engine temp....more so oil temp ?common problem with older t3's is the lack of correct engine cooling due to sediment build up within the radiator and between the cooling fins on the out side.......do yourself a favour before you pull it apart...hot oil = low pressure....most symptoms occur after a good hard drive and then a slow down to idle and buzzer is activated......further more a hard line oil guage will tell the story too....test is simple....use a 20w oil not a 15w or less...will be keen to hear your results cheers steve

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, Theo Weiss <teows@...> wrote:
>
> Greg,
>
> Yes - checked the pressure relief valve - even
> beefed it up with a washer. More pressure when
> cold but as soon the engine reaches operating
> temperature, oil pressure falls right back.Other
> wise engine runs fine, However with all the spark
> plugs removed, I couldn't turn the crankshaft by
> hand, maybe a seized bearing ?? So to the operating table next week.
> I did all I could - new oil pump,new oil cooler different engine oil.
>
> Theo
>
>
> At 12:29 AM 21/07/2011, you wrote:
> >
> >
> >theo have you tried the oil pressure relief
> >valve. the springs often break or the valve could jamn. greg e
> >
> >On Wed, 20 Jul 2011 22:24 EST Theo Weiss wrote:
> >
> > > Neil,
> > >
> > > Thanks for the tip, but it didn't make any
> > difference. Next week the engine will be
> > dismantled by the local VW mechanic, ouch!.
> > >
> > > Theo
> > >
> > >
> > >At 09:20 AM 24/06/2011, you wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Theo,
> > >>
> > >> When I first bought my T2 the engine had
> > been freshly rebuilt but it developed an oil
> > pressure problem soon after. No one could find
> > the cause but I found that if I overfilled the
> > engine with oil the problem went away. It
> > turned out to be a damaged O ring where the oil
> > pickup tube seals to the oil pump. Overfilling
> > with oil covered the leaking seal and stopped
> > the pump from sucking air. The engine was
> > stripped before we found the problem but
> > afterwards my mechanic worked out that he could
> > have replaced the O ring without stripping the
> > case if we had known what it was. Not sure
> > whether this could happen to a WBX but may be
> > worth overfilling with oil to try it??
> > >>
> > >> Neil.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> From: theoweiss <<mailto:teows%40melbpc.org.au>teows@...>
> > >> To:
> > <mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com>Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > >> Sent: Thu, 23 June, 2011 10:00:05 PM
> > >> Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] More engine power
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Hello Syncronauts,
> > >>
> > >> Has anyone used the GoWesty Engine Kit?
> > >> After installing a new oil cooler and pump,
> > >> my low oil pressure problem has still not been resolved.
> > >> According to the local VW mechanic, I might need an engine overhaul.
> > >> Not happy.
> > >>
> > >> Cheers,Theo
> > >>
> > >>
> >
> >
>