I been running synthetic oil for over 10 years since rudi rebuilt my trany/ started with motule then redline. Driven hard and no prob whatsoever.
I would stick to synthetics and move forward as does technology.
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I would stick to synthetics and move forward as does technology.
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> On 10 Jun 2015, at 8:40 pm, Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com wrote:
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> There are 5 messages in this issue.
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> 1a. Re: decoupler fault?
> From: greg.navarro61
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> 2a. Re: Gear oil
> From: Les Harris
> 2b. Re: Gear oil
> From: cathrich1
> 2c. Re: Gear oil
> From: Hartmut Kiehn
> 2d. Re: Gear oil
> From: Les Harris
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> 1a. Re: decoupler fault?
> Posted by: greg.navarro61@yahoo.com.au greg.navarro61
> Date: Tue Jun 9, 2015 4:58 am ((PDT))
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> No not confirmed about the leak Greg.
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> Haven't been able to find a 15mm hose clamp 4.5mm wide in the usual places.
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> Trying Jaycar in the morning.
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> I did try a wire tie but it didn't work.
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> Someone suggested I pull it apart and replace the O ring inside.
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> Would you recommend this?
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> 2a. Re: Gear oil
> Posted by: "Les Harris" leslieharris@optusnet.com.au syncroaustralia
> Date: Tue Jun 9, 2015 8:05 pm ((PDT))
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> Eddie,
>
> This is one of those situations where we can't have it both ways. Synthetic
> oil has a lower cold viscosity than mineral oil and gives easy shifting from
> stone cold. Mineral oil has a much higher viscosity when cold and needs
> slower shifting until it warms up.
>
> Separately, synthetic oil has a much lower film integrity, hot and cold,
> than mineral oil. No oil = very high wear rate. High film integrity oil =
> very low wear rate. Intermediate film integrity = intermediate wear rate.
>
> The choice comes down to easier gear shifting when cold and a higher wear
> rate or slow shifting when cold and lower wear rate.
>
> The Syncro box operates at high loads (the initial design could have been
> better) and needs the best film integrity oil available.
>
> Les
>
> _____
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> From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com]
> Sent: 08 June 2015 20:46
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Gear oil
>
> That sounds like two votes for the Penrite synthetic. I hear what you're
> saying Les but I've found that the synthetic makes for easier shifting.
> Guess time will tell if my oil selection was correct.
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> 2b. Re: Gear oil
> Posted by: cathrich1@yahoo.com.au cathrich1
> Date: Wed Jun 10, 2015 12:05 am ((PDT))
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> And everyone has their preferences also!
> The only experience I have with both synthetic and mineral (used to use shell) is in various beetles, type 3's and kombi's, have never found a big different in driving (doesn't get that cold in Brisbane!) and have never noticed any difference in colour of the oil, or amount of bits stuck to the magnet when changing.
> Of the vehicles I did the most driving in, the beetle ran mineral, and at change time was always spotless. I ran synthetic in the kombi (T2) which did a lot of heavily loaded work and a lot of towing, again oil always came out spotless.
> Not a direct comparison to the Syncro, but I can't say I have found any major benefits in performance of one over the other.
>
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> My mechanic puts Fuch's mineral in the Syncro, but the GB was recently rebuilt when I got it and I have only done ~20k km in it so far!!
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> On thing I must say is I have been surprised how quick the front diff comes up to temperature (driving on the road, tail shaft out). I would have thought took a long time to heat up just turning over. No idea if this would be different with synthetic.
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> I really look forward to any news back from the gathering in Europe!
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> 2c. Re: Gear oil
> Posted by: "Hartmut Kiehn" hartis@live.com.au kiehn38
> Date: Wed Jun 10, 2015 1:42 am ((PDT))
>
> Hi Richard
> News from overseas will start to flow mid August, Peter of Port will look after that , think he will create a blog, Personally I will keep a manual log , more in line with life advancements....
>
> Glad to read that your mechanic is using Fuchs (germ. for fox) , my engine did +- 320 T kms
> On 15/40 Fuchs before I opened it for inspection.
>
> Surprised too about the heat generator called front diff in my Syncro. In summer I put an extra mat in there to save the feet from getting burnt (haha). Why is the thing getting that warm ? Synthetic does not make a difference for me as mine still is on synthetic. At the time I stopped the oil to see it would make a difference.
>
> Hart
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> Sent from my iPad
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>> On 10 Jun 2015, at 5:05 pm, cathrich1@yahoo.com.au [Syncro_T3_Australia] <Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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>> And everyone has their preferences also!
>>
>> The only experience I have with both synthetic and mineral (used to use shell) is in various beetles, type 3's and kombi's, have never found a big different in driving (doesn't get that cold in Brisbane!) and have never noticed any difference in colour of the oil, or amount of bits stuck to the magnet when changing.
>>
>> Of the vehicles I did the most driving in, the beetle ran mineral, and at change time was always spotless. I ran synthetic in the kombi (T2) which did a lot of heavily loaded work and a lot of towing, again oil always came out spotless.
>>
>> Not a direct comparison to the Syncro, but I can't say I have found any major benefits in performance of one over the other.
>>
>>
>>
>> My mechanic puts Fuch's mineral in the Syncro, but the GB was recently rebuilt when I got it and I have only done ~20k km in it so far!!
>>
>>
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>> On thing I must say is I have been surprised how quick the front diff comes up to temperature (driving on the road, tail shaft out). I would have thought took a long time to heat up just turning over. No idea if this would be different with synthetic.
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>> The tic I really look forward to any news back from the gathering in Europe!
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> 2d. Re: Gear oil
> Posted by: "Les Harris" leslieharris@optusnet.com.au syncroaustralia
> Date: Wed Jun 10, 2015 1:59 am ((PDT))
>
> Hartmut,
>
> This might be down to the coolant pipes to the radiator. In Germany, there
> was a factory option that was called a foot well insulation kit to overcome
> this problem.
>
> Les
>
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> From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com]
> Sent: 10 June 2015 18:43
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Gear oil
>
> Surprised too about the heat generator called front diff in my Syncro. In
> summer I put an extra mat in there to save the feet from getting burnt
> (haha). Why is the thing getting that warm ? Synthetic does not make a
> difference for me as mine still is on synthetic. At the time I stopped the
> oil to see it would make a difference.
>
> Hart
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