springs

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morning all
if you want to enquire about a different supplier contact helmnet from port macquarrie about the ones he is installing in his tristar, they are made in hoxten park sydney and i understand that he is replacing the seikel units fitted to his vehicle, i have fitted these springs to the front of mine with vw original shocks and we did a comparison test at the club meeting at sackville where he asked paul muller to order them. paul is also going to get some for his own vehicle,
his comment about the seikels is they are to hard and create a uncomfortable ride. i am totally happy with mine  and and will use them again for the rears when they need replacing.
regards
bob dale
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G’day Bob ?All,

I remember Sackville as a great get together and our talks about suspension springs. I bought Seikels, installed them and did not like them, primarily  because of the uncomfortable ride , secondly ‘cause my front wheels occasionally leaving the road surface, on my way to work I now know where this happens and I do get a little morning kick out of this, possibly the only one an old man can ask for.... Camber is well past the limit

However the OME shocks seem to be long enough when extended, I think to remember that I spend some time checking when installing them

( without using spring clamps as the el cheapos from SC failed at first attempt to hold together a Seikel  spring) . Bob, when discussing springs over the camp fire we discussed spring brands, I can’t however remember what we came up with, in the end I send my originals to Paul Muller and he organized the resetting. I done this before on a Passat and it worked very well.Once I have installed my originals I will let you’s know how it all works out, but please bear in mind that all our vehicles are somewhat different,i.e. mine could well be lighter on the front axle than your mobile homes...            Hartmut Tristar, Port Macquarie

 

From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bob Dale
Sent: Wednesday, 26 August 2009 10:13 AM
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] springs

 

 

morning all

if you want to enquire about a different supplier contact helmnet from port macquarrie about the ones he is installing in his tristar, they are made in hoxten park sydney and i understand that he is replacing the seikel units fitted to his vehicle, i have fitted these springs to the front of mine with vw original shocks and we did a comparison test at the club meeting at sackville where he asked paul muller to order them. paul is also going to get some for his own vehicle,

his comment about the seikels is they are to hard and create a uncomfortable ride. i am totally happy with mine  and and will use them again for the rears when they need replacing.

regards

bob dale

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i have Seikel springs - now for 7 years.
they are perfect - best investment yet on the old syncro + OME shocks of coarse!

From: Hartmut Kiehn <hartis@live.com.au>
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, 26 August, 2009 8:21:50 PM
Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] springs

 

G’day Bob ?All,

I remember Sackville as a great get together and our talks about suspension springs. I bought Seikels, installed them and did not like them, primarily  because of the uncomfortable ride , secondly ‘cause my front wheels occasionally leaving the road surface, on my way to work I now know where this happens and I do get a little morning kick out of this, possibly the only one an old man can ask for.... Camber is well past the limit

However the OME shocks seem to be long enough when extended, I think to remember that I spend some time checking when installing them

( without using spring clamps as the el cheapos from SC failed at first attempt to hold together a Seikel  spring) . Bob, when discussing springs over the camp fire we discussed spring brands, I can’t however remember what we came up with, in the end I send my originals to Paul Muller and he organized the resetting. I done this before on a Passat and it worked very well.Once I have installed my originals I will let you’s know how it all works out, but please bear in mind that all our vehicles are somewhat different,i. e. mine could well be lighter on the front axle than your mobile homes...            Hartmut Tristar, Port Macquarie

 

From: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com [mailto:Syncro_ T3_Australia@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Bob Dale
Sent: Wednesday, 26 August 2009 10:13 AM
To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australi a] springs

 

 

morning all

if you want to enquire about a different supplier contact helmnet from port macquarrie about the ones he is installing in his tristar, they are made in hoxten park sydney and i understand that he is replacing the seikel units fitted to his vehicle, i have fitted these springs to the front of mine with vw original shocks and we did a comparison test at the club meeting at sackville where he asked paul muller to order them. paul is also going to get some for his own vehicle,

his comment about the seikels is they are to hard and create a uncomfortable ride. i am totally happy with mine  and and will use them again for the rears when they need replacing.

regards

bob dale


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probably been asked a million times. Schwenk or Go westy (with OME shocks) for heavy trakka converted camper syncro. Has 15" alloys as fitted by Trakka in 1990, plus 205/75 coopers.

many thanks
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I have both in my possession. Sadly, I am in the US. Otherwise, I could loan them to you for testing. I've never installed the GoWesty after realising all both these springs were designed for a fully laden Syncro Wesfalia camper weighing in at up to 6500lbs. I only have Doublecabs these days that tip the scales at a featherweight 3310lbs.

The GW springs are stiffer than the Syncro.org (Schwenk) springs but are progressive wound. The GW's raise your Syncro about an inch taller. Schwenk is in the process of redesigning his springs and is in the testing phase.

If cost was not a major consideration, I would install a coilover system instead. That opens the option of variable springs rates readily available in the aftermarket. If I remember correctly, www.burleysmotorsports.com was offering a version of these (designed by Eric A.).


BenT

ps: My GW springs are for sale

Sent from my mobile device

On Feb 6, 2011, at 2:11 PM, "nwjfletcher" <nwjfletcher@yahoo.com> wrote:

> probably been asked a million times. Schwenk or Go westy (with OME shocks) for heavy trakka converted camper syncro. Has 15" alloys as fitted by Trakka in 1990, plus 205/75 coopers.
>
> many thanks
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
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Hi Ben T,

Could I ask how much you would like for your GoWesty springs?

Thanks,

Francesca.

On 7 February 2011 10:33, BenT Syncro <syncro@gmail.com> wrote:

I have both in my possession. Sadly, I am in the US. Otherwise, I could loan them to you for testing. I've never installed the GoWesty after realising all both these springs were designed for a fully laden Syncro Wesfalia camper weighing in at up to 6500lbs. I only have Doublecabs these days that tip the scales at a featherweight 3310lbs.

The GW springs are stiffer than the Syncro.org (Schwenk) springs but are progressive wound. The GW's raise your Syncro about an inch taller. Schwenk is in the process of redesigning his springs and is in the testing phase.

If cost was not a major consideration, I would install a coilover system instead. That opens the option of variable springs rates readily available in the aftermarket. If I remember correctly, www.burleysmotorsports.com was offering a version of these (designed by Eric A.).

BenT

ps: My GW springs are for sale

Sent from my mobile device



On Feb 6, 2011, at 2:11 PM, "nwjfletcher" <nwjfletcher@yahoo.com> wrote:

> probably been asked a million times. Schwenk or Go westy (with OME shocks) for heavy trakka converted camper syncro. Has 15" alloys as fitted by Trakka in 1990, plus 205/75 coopers.
>
> many thanks
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>


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Francesca,

They were almost $500 with our wonderful California 9.25% sales tax. GoWesty lists them or $449.95 but are currently out of stock. 

I want $425 plus shipping. They have never been installed and still in the original paper wrapping from GoWesty.

I'm sending this message from a Superbowl party where I seem to be the only one not paying attention to the game.;-) Jeeze, I can't hear myself write will all the yelling and screaming.


Cheers,

BenT

On Feb 6, 2011, at 3:36 PM, Francesca Coles <fcoles6@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Ben T,

Could I ask how much you would like for your GoWesty springs?

Thanks,

Francesca.

On 7 February 2011 10:33, BenT Syncro <syncro@gmail.com> wrote:
 

I have both in my possession. Sadly, I am in the US. Otherwise, I could loan them to you for testing. I've never installed the GoWesty after realising all both these springs were designed for a fully laden Syncro Wesfalia camper weighing in at up to 6500lbs. I only have Doublecabs these days that tip the scales at a featherweight 3310lbs.

The GW springs are stiffer than the Syncro.org (Schwenk) springs but are progressive wound. The GW's raise your Syncro about an inch taller. Schwenk is in the process of redesigning his springs and is in the testing phase.

If cost was not a major consideration, I would install a coilover system instead. That opens the option of variable springs rates readily available in the aftermarket. If I remember correctly, www.burleysmotorsports.com was offering a version of these (designed by Eric A.).

BenT

ps: My GW springs are for sale

Sent from my mobile device



On Feb 6, 2011, at 2:11 PM, "nwjfletcher" <nwjfletcher@yahoo.com> wrote:

> probably been asked a million times. Schwenk or Go westy (with OME shocks) for heavy trakka converted camper syncro. Has 15" alloys as fitted by Trakka in 1990, plus 205/75 coopers.
>
> many thanks
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>


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Thanks, Ben.

Superbowl, eh? Makes our Antipodean heads spin thinking about such things. Hope it's fun.

I'll have to have a think about the springs. Would love to go a bit higher, but have to weigh up the finances after recent purchases. Someone else might jump in there in the meantime, but that's OK ('no worries' we say here).

May the best team win,

Francesca.

On 7 February 2011 11:08, BenT Syncro <syncro@gmail.com> wrote:

Francesca,

They were almost $500 with our wonderful California 9.25% sales tax. GoWesty lists them or $449.95 but are currently out of stock.

I want $425 plus shipping. They have never been installed and still in the original paper wrapping from GoWesty.

I'm sending this message from a Superbowl party where I seem to be the only one not paying attention to the game.;-) Jeeze, I can't hear myself write will all the yelling and screaming.


Cheers,

BenT

On Feb 6, 2011, at 3:36 PM, Francesca Coles <fcoles6@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Ben T,

Could I ask how much you would like for your GoWesty springs?

Thanks,

Francesca.

On 7 February 2011 10:33, BenT Syncro <syncro@gmail.com> wrote:

I have both in my possession. Sadly, I am in the US. Otherwise, I could loan them to you for testing. I've never installed the GoWesty after realising all both these springs were designed for a fully laden Syncro Wesfalia camper weighing in at up to 6500lbs. I only have Doublecabs these days that tip the scales at a featherweight 3310lbs.

The GW springs are stiffer than the Syncro.org (Schwenk) springs but are progressive wound. The GW's raise your Syncro about an inch taller. Schwenk is in the process of redesigning his springs and is in the testing phase.

If cost was not a major consideration, I would install a coilover system instead. That opens the option of variable springs rates readily available in the aftermarket. If I remember correctly, www.burleysmotorsports.com was offering a version of these (designed by Eric A.).

BenT

ps: My GW springs are for sale

Sent from my mobile device



On Feb 6, 2011, at 2:11 PM, "nwjfletcher" <nwjfletcher@yahoo.com> wrote:

> probably been asked a million times. Schwenk or Go westy (with OME shocks) for heavy trakka converted camper syncro. Has 15" alloys as fitted by Trakka in 1990, plus 205/75 coopers.
>
> many thanks
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>



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Hi Francesca,

No worries (as we say here as well) on the springs. It's been sitting safe indoors for a couple years. Someone will buy them eventually or I will just have to buy another heavy weight T3 to put them on.

Pittsburgh Steelers vs. Greenbay Packers. Score is 3 vs. 21 in favour of the Packers. I'm at a table with extremely loud Greenbay fans. There's a lot of money riding on the game.


BenT

On Feb 6, 2011, at 4:19 PM, Francesca Coles <fcoles6@gmail.com> wrote:

Thanks, Ben.

Superbowl, eh? Makes our Antipodean heads spin thinking about such things. Hope it's fun.

I'll have to have a think about the springs. Would love to go a bit higher, but have to weigh up the finances after recent purchases. Someone else might jump in there in the meantime, but that's OK ('no worries' we say here).

May the best team win,

Francesca.

On 7 February 2011 11:08, BenT Syncro <syncro@gmail.com> wrote:
 

Francesca,

They were almost $500 with our wonderful California 9.25% sales tax. GoWesty lists them or $449.95 but are currently out of stock. 

I want $425 plus shipping. They have never been installed and still in the original paper wrapping from GoWesty.

I'm sending this message from a Superbowl party where I seem to be the only one not paying attention to the game.;-) Jeeze, I can't hear myself write will all the yelling and screaming.


Cheers,

BenT

On Feb 6, 2011, at 3:36 PM, Francesca Coles <fcoles6@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Ben T,

Could I ask how much you would like for your GoWesty springs?

Thanks,

Francesca.

On 7 February 2011 10:33, BenT Syncro <syncro@gmail.com> wrote:
 

I have both in my possession. Sadly, I am in the US. Otherwise, I could loan them to you for testing. I've never installed the GoWesty after realising all both these springs were designed for a fully laden Syncro Wesfalia camper weighing in at up to 6500lbs. I only have Doublecabs these days that tip the scales at a featherweight 3310lbs.

The GW springs are stiffer than the Syncro.org (Schwenk) springs but are progressive wound. The GW's raise your Syncro about an inch taller. Schwenk is in the process of redesigning his springs and is in the testing phase.

If cost was not a major consideration, I would install a coilover system instead. That opens the option of variable springs rates readily available in the aftermarket. If I remember correctly, www.burleysmotorsports.com was offering a version of these (designed by Eric A.).

BenT

ps: My GW springs are for sale

Sent from my mobile device



On Feb 6, 2011, at 2:11 PM, "nwjfletcher" <nwjfletcher@yahoo.com> wrote:

> probably been asked a million times. Schwenk or Go westy (with OME shocks) for heavy trakka converted camper syncro. Has 15" alloys as fitted by Trakka in 1990, plus 205/75 coopers.
>
> many thanks
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>



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HI there. i posted the original question re springs and think I would like to buy yours off you. My van is very heavy as a full camper. an we arrange it with postage for Australia? 
Many thanks

Nick

--- On Mon, 7/2/11, BenT Syncro <syncro@gmail.com> wrote:

From: BenT Syncro <syncro@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] springs
To: "Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com" <Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com>
Received: Monday, 7 February, 2011, 12:08 AM

 

Francesca,

They were almost $500 with our wonderful California 9.25% sales tax. GoWesty lists them or $449.95 but are currently out of stock. 

I want $425 plus shipping. They have never been installed and still in the original paper wrapping from GoWesty.

I'm sending this message from a Superbowl party where I seem to be the only one not paying attention to the game.;-) Jeeze, I can't hear myself write will all the yelling and screaming.


Cheers,

BenT

On Feb 6, 2011, at 3:36 PM, Francesca Coles <fcoles6@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Ben T,

Could I ask how much you would like for your GoWesty springs?

Thanks,

Francesca.

On 7 February 2011 10:33, BenT Syncro <syncro@gmail.com> wrote:
 

I have both in my possession. Sadly, I am in the US. Otherwise, I could loan them to you for testing. I've never installed the GoWesty after realising all both these springs were designed for a fully laden Syncro Wesfalia camper weighing in at up to 6500lbs. I only have Doublecabs these days that tip the scales at a featherweight 3310lbs.

The GW springs are stiffer than the Syncro.org (Schwenk) springs but are progressive wound. The GW's raise your Syncro about an inch taller. Schwenk is in the process of redesigning his springs and is in the testing phase.

If cost was not a major consideration, I would install a coilover system instead. That opens the option of variable springs rates readily available in the aftermarket. If I remember correctly, www.burleysmotorsports.com was offering a version of these (designed by Eric A.).

BenT

ps: My GW springs are for sale

Sent from my mobile device



On Feb 6, 2011, at 2:11 PM, "nwjfletcher" <nwjfletcher@yahoo.com> wrote:

> probably been asked a million times. Schwenk or Go westy (with OME shocks) for heavy trakka converted camper syncro. Has 15" alloys as fitted by Trakka in 1990, plus 205/75 coopers.
>
> many thanks
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>



 
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Sorry, wrote that really badly. Can we arrange for postage to Australia? Many thanks.
Nick

--- On Mon, 7/2/11, BenT Syncro <syncro@gmail.com> wrote:

From: BenT Syncro <syncro@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] springs
To: "Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com" <Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com>
Received: Monday, 7 February, 2011, 12:58 AM

 

Hi Francesca,

No worries (as we say here as well) on the springs. It's been sitting safe indoors for a couple years. Someone will buy them eventually or I will just have to buy another heavy weight T3 to put them on.

Pittsburgh Steelers vs. Greenbay Packers. Score is 3 vs. 21 in favour of the Packers. I'm at a table with extremely loud Greenbay fans. There's a lot of money riding on the game.


BenT

On Feb 6, 2011, at 4:19 PM, Francesca Coles <fcoles6@gmail.com> wrote:

Thanks, Ben.

Superbowl, eh? Makes our Antipodean heads spin thinking about such things. Hope it's fun.

I'll have to have a think about the springs. Would love to go a bit higher, but have to weigh up the finances after recent purchases. Someone else might jump in there in the meantime, but that's OK ('no worries' we say here).

May the best team win,

Francesca.

On 7 February 2011 11:08, BenT Syncro <syncro@gmail.com> wrote:
 

Francesca,

They were almost $500 with our wonderful California 9.25% sales tax. GoWesty lists them or $449.95 but are currently out of stock. 

I want $425 plus shipping. They have never been installed and still in the original paper wrapping from GoWesty.

I'm sending this message from a Superbowl party where I seem to be the only one not paying attention to the game.;-) Jeeze, I can't hear myself write will all the yelling and screaming.


Cheers,

BenT

On Feb 6, 2011, at 3:36 PM, Francesca Coles <fcoles6@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Ben T,

Could I ask how much you would like for your GoWesty springs?

Thanks,

Francesca.

On 7 February 2011 10:33, BenT Syncro <syncro@gmail.com> wrote:
 

I have both in my possession. Sadly, I am in the US. Otherwise, I could loan them to you for testing. I've never installed the GoWesty after realising all both these springs were designed for a fully laden Syncro Wesfalia camper weighing in at up to 6500lbs. I only have Doublecabs these days that tip the scales at a featherweight 3310lbs.

The GW springs are stiffer than the Syncro.org (Schwenk) springs but are progressive wound. The GW's raise your Syncro about an inch taller. Schwenk is in the process of redesigning his springs and is in the testing phase.

If cost was not a major consideration, I would install a coilover system instead. That opens the option of variable springs rates readily available in the aftermarket. If I remember correctly, www.burleysmotorsports.com was offering a version of these (designed by Eric A.).

BenT

ps: My GW springs are for sale

Sent from my mobile device



On Feb 6, 2011, at 2:11 PM, "nwjfletcher" <nwjfletcher@yahoo.com> wrote:

> probably been asked a million times. Schwenk or Go westy (with OME shocks) for heavy trakka converted camper syncro. Has 15" alloys as fitted by Trakka in 1990, plus 205/75 coopers.
>
> many thanks
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>




 
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Hi Nick,

Give a day or so to determine shipping. I'm away from home at the moment and not near the springs.

Not the 'hot (mineral) springs' but the bouncy type. Yes, and mine, off me. ;-) You'll have to excuse my occasional spelling deviation as I live nearly on the opposite side of the world.

Speaking of which, dear Francesca, I believe our (California) antipodes is somewhere in the middle of the Indian Ocean. Yours would be merry Olde England. Does that mean if I dig straight through the earth, I can flood my part of California?;-)


Cheers,

BenT
Sent from my bouncy bounce

On Feb 6, 2011, at 7:09 PM, Nicholas Fletcher <nwjfletcher@yahoo.com> wrote:
HI there. i posted the original question re springs and think I would like to buy yours off you. My van is very heavy as a full camper. an we arrange it with postage for Australia? 
Many thanks

Nick

--- On Mon, 7/2/11, BenT Syncro <syncro@gmail.com> wrote:

From: BenT Syncro <syncro@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] springs
To: "Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com" <Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com>
Received: Monday, 7 February, 2011, 12:08 AM

Francesca,

They were almost $500 with our wonderful California 9.25% sales tax. GoWesty lists them or $449.95 but are currently out of stock. 

I want $425 plus shipping. They have never been installed and still in the original paper wrapping from GoWesty.

I'm sending this message from a Superbowl party where I seem to be the only one not paying attention to the game.;-) Jeeze, I can't hear myself write will all the yelling and screaming.


Cheers,

BenT

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If buying gowesty springs vehicle weight plays a big factor in how they ride! My syncro is at around the 1.9-2 tonne mark when fully loaded and ready for traveling. The gowesty springs work very well with a good 400-500kgs of weight over empty. They feel slightly stiffer than stock but will cure the nose dive issues due to their progressive nature.  I installed them on an empty van and must say they actually gave a decent ride even with the van being extremely light. What some people have experienced is that with heavy engine conversions or going over a certain loaded weight the springs will lose their cushioning effect. That means the 3 closest coils remain coil bound due to the weight stiffening the spring up significantly giving a harsher ride than intended. Oh and they will lift your vehicle  2" over stock. More if your old springs are worn out! 
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
From: nwjfletcher@yahoo.com
Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 19:09:03 -0800
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] springs

 
HI there. i posted the original question re springs and think I would like to buy yours off you. My van is very heavy as a full camper. an we arrange it with postage for Australia? 
Many thanks

Nick

--- On Mon, 7/2/11, BenT Syncro <syncro@gmail.com> wrote:

From: BenT Syncro <syncro@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] springs
To: "Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com" <Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com>
Received: Monday, 7 February, 2011, 12:08 AM

 


Francesca,

They were almost $500 with our wonderful California 9.25% sales tax. GoWesty lists them or $449.95 but are currently out of stock. 

I want $425 plus shipping. They have never been installed and still in the original paper wrapping from GoWesty.

I'm sending this message from a Superbowl party where I seem to be the only one not paying attention to the game.;-) Jeeze, I can't hear myself write will all the yelling and screaming.


Cheers,

BenT

On Feb 6, 2011, at 3:36 PM, Francesca Coles <fcoles6@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Ben T,

Could I ask how much you would like for your GoWesty springs?

Thanks,

Francesca.

On 7 February 2011 10:33, BenT Syncro <syncro@gmail.com> wrote:
 
I have both in my possession. Sadly, I am in the US. Otherwise, I could loan them to you for testing. I've never installed the GoWesty after realising all both these springs were designed for a fully laden Syncro Wesfalia camper weighing in at up to 6500lbs. I only have Doublecabs these days that tip the scales at a featherweight 3310lbs.

The GW springs are stiffer than the Syncro.org (Schwenk) springs but are progressive wound. The GW's raise your Syncro about an inch taller. Schwenk is in the process of redesigning his springs and is in the testing phase.

If cost was not a major consideration, I would install a coilover system instead. That opens the option of variable springs rates readily available in the aftermarket. If I remember correctly, www.burleysmotorsports.com was offering a version of these (designed by Eric A.).

BenT

ps: My GW springs are for sale

Sent from my mobile device


On Feb 6, 2011, at 2:11 PM, "nwjfletcher" <nwjfletcher@yahoo.com> wrote:

> probably been asked a million times. Schwenk or Go westy (with OME shocks) for heavy trakka converted camper syncro. Has 15" alloys as fitted by Trakka in 1990, plus 205/75 coopers.
>
> many thanks
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>



 
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hi francesca
have you tried a local spring manufacturer i had the front units made by universal springs 4/12 powderworks rd hoxten park a suburb of sydney their phone no is 0296074682 they are heavy duty and at the time cost app $100-00 each not fitted. hartment had a drive of my vehicle at the syncro meeting a few years ago along with paul muller i beleave they were impressed with the ride, harmut do you remember if so please comment for francesca, at the same time mullers fitted new shocks when they installed the springs i am happy with them and will by the rear units from the same company when the time comes. i no longer have the tyres rubbing on the wheel arch when going over a curb or braking with the wheels turned.
there is a vw spares company in sydney volksbahn autos that i know that can supply german manufactured syncro  units phone is 0296882933 they are on the web try google to find them. in the end it is your own personell choice which way you go best of luck    regards bob dale
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 10:36 AM
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] springs

 

Hi Ben T,


Could I ask how much you would like for your GoWesty springs?

Thanks,

Francesca.

On 7 February 2011 10:33, BenT Syncro <syncro@gmail.com> wrote:
 

I have both in my possession. Sadly, I am in the US. Otherwise, I could loan them to you for testing. I've never installed the GoWesty after realising all both these springs were designed for a fully laden Syncro Wesfalia camper weighing in at up to 6500lbs. I only have Doublecabs these days that tip the scales at a featherweight 3310lbs.

The GW springs are stiffer than the Syncro.org (Schwenk) springs but are progressive wound. The GW's raise your Syncro about an inch taller. Schwenk is in the process of redesigning his springs and is in the testing phase.

If cost was not a major consideration, I would install a coilover system instead. That opens the option of variable springs rates readily available in the aftermarket. If I remember correctly, www.burleysmotorsports.com was offering a version of these (designed by Eric A.).

BenT

ps: My GW springs are for sale

Sent from my mobile device



On Feb 6, 2011, at 2:11 PM, "nwjfletcher" <nwjfletcher@yahoo.com> wrote:

> probably been asked a million times. Schwenk or Go westy (with OME shocks) for heavy trakka converted camper syncro. Has 15" alloys as fitted by Trakka in 1990, plus 205/75 coopers.
>
> many thanks
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
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Thanks for those leads, Bob. It might pay to look at a few different options. Possibly putting in 2WD springs which are taller than Syncro ones plus spacers, as others have done, is another cheap option. Could this combo handle a really heavy camper, though? What sort of shocks did Muller put in?

Francesca.

On 8 February 2011 09:20, Bob Dale <rcdale@bigpond.com> wrote:

hi francesca
have you tried a local spring manufacturer i had the front units made by universal springs 4/12 powderworks rd hoxten park a suburb of sydney their phone no is 0296074682 they are heavy duty and at the time cost app $100-00 each not fitted. hartment had a drive of my vehicle at the syncro meeting a few years ago along with paul muller i beleave they were impressed with the ride, harmut do you remember if so please comment for francesca, at the same time mullers fitted new shocks when they installed the springs i am happy with them and will by the rear units from the same company when the time comes. i no longer have the tyres rubbing on the wheel arch when going over a curb or braking with the wheels turned.
there is a vw spares company in sydney volksbahn autos that i know that can supply german manufactured syncro units phone is 0296882933 they are on the web try google to find them. in the end it is your own personell choice which way you go best of luck regards bob dale
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 10:36 AM
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] springs

Hi Ben T,


Could I ask how much you would like for your GoWesty springs?

Thanks,

Francesca.

On 7 February 2011 10:33, BenT Syncro <syncro@gmail.com> wrote:

I have both in my possession. Sadly, I am in the US. Otherwise, I could loan them to you for testing. I've never installed the GoWesty after realising all both these springs were designed for a fully laden Syncro Wesfalia camper weighing in at up to 6500lbs. I only have Doublecabs these days that tip the scales at a featherweight 3310lbs.

The GW springs are stiffer than the Syncro.org (Schwenk) springs but are progressive wound. The GW's raise your Syncro about an inch taller. Schwenk is in the process of redesigning his springs and is in the testing phase.

If cost was not a major consideration, I would install a coilover system instead. That opens the option of variable springs rates readily available in the aftermarket. If I remember correctly, www.burleysmotorsports.com was offering a version of these (designed by Eric A.).

BenT

ps: My GW springs are for sale

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On Feb 6, 2011, at 2:11 PM, "nwjfletcher" <nwjfletcher@yahoo.com> wrote:

> probably been asked a million times. Schwenk or Go westy (with OME shocks) for heavy trakka converted camper syncro. Has 15" alloys as fitted by Trakka in 1990, plus 205/75 coopers.
>
> many thanks
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>



16
Francesca / Bob,
 
sure I do remember the short test drive with Paul, as much as I can remember we found the springs really good to live with...... and I might add here that I could not live with my
SEIKEL springs which I had imported from Bernd Jaeger. Maybe the DOKA is too light for this type of spring, the truck was so hard that I feared for it's integrity and for my kidneys.
I also found that on the rear springs the 3 mid - windings bound, even when the wheel was off ! They bound permanently , I could never understand this.
I am now using the original springs which Paul Mueller had stretched for me. They give me , I am guessing here, about 40 mm more height, but have the original characteristics
--in other words, no uncomfy, bumpy ride. Currently I use the truck daily twice to water a bamboo plantation ( I planted at the wrong time of the year) with 750+  ltr of water sitting over the rear axle , with  -almost- no visual impact of truck's height.
 
He gals/guys isn't life worth living having one or more Syncros in your yard ??!!  Hartmut
 

 
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
From: rcdale@bigpond.com
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 09:20:59 +1100
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] springs

 
hi francesca
have you tried a local spring manufacturer i had the front units made by universal springs 4/12 powderworks rd hoxten park a suburb of sydney their phone no is 0296074682 they are heavy duty and at the time cost app $100-00 each not fitted. hartment had a drive of my vehicle at the syncro meeting a few years ago along with paul muller i beleave they were impressed with the ride, harmut do you remember if so please comment for francesca, at the same time mullers fitted new shocks when they installed the springs i am happy with them and will by the rear units from the same company when the time comes. i no longer have the tyres rubbing on the wheel arch when going over a curb or braking with the wheels turned.
there is a vw spares company in sydney volksbahn autos that i know that can supply german manufactured syncro  units phone is 0296882933 they are on the web try google to find them. in the end it is your own personell choice which way you go best of luck    regards bob dale
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 10:36 AM
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] springs

 

Hi Ben T,


Could I ask how much you would like for your GoWesty springs?

Thanks,

Francesca.

On 7 February 2011 10:33, BenT Syncro <syncro@gmail.com> wrote:
 

I have both in my possession. Sadly, I am in the US. Otherwise, I could loan them to you for testing. I've never installed the GoWesty after realising all both these springs were designed for a fully laden Syncro Wesfalia camper weighing in at up to 6500lbs. I only have Doublecabs these days that tip the scales at a featherweight 3310lbs.

The GW springs are stiffer than the Syncro.org (Schwenk) springs but are progressive wound. The GW's raise your Syncro about an inch taller. Schwenk is in the process of redesigning his springs and is in the testing phase.

If cost was not a major consideration, I would install a coilover system instead. That opens the option of variable springs rates readily available in the aftermarket. If I remember correctly, www.burleysmotorsports.com was offering a version of these (designed by Eric A.).

BenT

ps: My GW springs are for sale

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On Feb 6, 2011, at 2:11 PM, "nwjfletcher" <nwjfletcher@yahoo.com> wrote:

> probably been asked a million times. Schwenk or Go westy (with OME shocks) for heavy trakka converted camper syncro. Has 15" alloys as fitted by Trakka in 1990, plus 205/75 coopers.
>
> many thanks
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>




17
You might find out what spring rate was used for your springs. That would help others who are contemplating doing what you have done yourself. If might argue the point, you are essentially doing the R&D when you have springs made. You can specify spring rates, windings, and resulting height. You won't know what you're really getting until you put them on your Syncro. It's a good argument to find the specifications on your springs since you seem happy with them.

Other things to consider, will they sag over time? Are they powdercoated, painted, or bare metal? How will they change in character once you have substituted longer springs in the back for the spacers you are using to literally 'bring up the rear'.;-)

I am not just saying this because I have a set of springs for sale as they appear spoken for by Nick now. The GW and Syncro.org springs are a known quantity. A great number of both brands are in service. Their ride characteristics are fairly documented by Syncronauts in several countries. They are all powdercoated. The Syncro.org springs are manufactured by Betts Springs in California. They manufacture springs for international consumption. As for GW springs, IIRC, they are made by or for H&R in Germany.

Then there is a matter of perceived value. If you were shopping for a Trakka Syncro with raised suspension, would you be more likely to buy the one that has Syncro.org or GoWesty springs or the one with 'Universal Springs' springs? You might as well call them 'generic springs' as that is likely how it will be perceived.


Cheers,

BenT
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On Feb 7, 2011, at 2:20 PM, "Bob Dale" <rcdale@bigpond.com> wrote:

hi francesca
have you tried a local spring manufacturer i had the front units made by universal springs 4/12 powderworks rd hoxten park a suburb of sydney their phone no is 0296074682 they are heavy duty and at the time cost app $100-00 each not fitted. hartment had a drive of my vehicle at the syncro meeting a few years ago along with paul muller i beleave they were impressed with the ride, harmut do you remember if so please comment for francesca, at the same time mullers fitted new shocks when they installed the springs i am happy with them and will by the rear units from the same company when the time comes. i no longer have the tyres rubbing on the wheel arch when going over a curb or braking with the wheels turned.
there is a vw spares company in sydney volksbahn autos that i know that can supply german manufactured syncro  units phone is 0296882933 they are on the web try google to find them. in the end it is your own personell choice which way you go best of luck    regards bob dale
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 10:36 AM
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] springs

 

Hi Ben T,


Could I ask how much you would like for your GoWesty springs?

Thanks,

Francesca.

On 7 February 2011 10:33, BenT Syncro <syncro@gmail.com> wrote:
 

I have both in my possession. Sadly, I am in the US. Otherwise, I could loan them to you for testing. I've never installed the GoWesty after realising all both these springs were designed for a fully laden Syncro Wesfalia camper weighing in at up to 6500lbs. I only have Doublecabs these days that tip the scales at a featherweight 3310lbs.

The GW springs are stiffer than the Syncro.org (Schwenk) springs but are progressive wound. The GW's raise your Syncro about an inch taller. Schwenk is in the process of redesigning his springs and is in the testing phase.

If cost was not a major consideration, I would install a coilover system instead. That opens the option of variable springs rates readily available in the aftermarket. If I remember correctly, www.burleysmotorsports.com was offering a version of these (designed by Eric A.).

BenT

ps: My GW springs are for sale

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On Feb 6, 2011, at 2:11 PM, "nwjfletcher" <nwjfletcher@yahoo.com> wrote:

> probably been asked a million times. Schwenk or Go westy (with OME shocks) for heavy trakka converted camper syncro. Has 15" alloys as fitted by Trakka in 1990, plus 205/75 coopers.
>
> many thanks
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>


18
Hart, those were the Seikel springs you sold to me! Hmmm. I must have a look at the rear ones tonight, still not fitted the fronts.

Gary Cookson


On 08/02/2011, at 9:59 AM, Hartmut Kiehn wrote:

 

Francesca / Bob,
 
sure I do remember the short test drive with Paul, as much as I can remember we found the springs really good to live with...... and I might add here that I could not live with my
SEIKEL springs which I had imported from Bernd Jaeger. Maybe the DOKA is too light for this type of spring, the truck was so hard that I feared for it's integrity and for my kidneys.
I also found that on the rear springs the 3 mid - windings bound, even when the wheel was off ! They bound permanently , I could never understand this.
I am now using the original springs which Paul Mueller had stretched for me. They give me , I am guessing here, about 40 mm more height, but have the original characteristics
--in other words, no uncomfy, bumpy ride. Currently I use the truck daily twice to water a bamboo plantation ( I planted at the wrong time of the year) with 750+  ltr of water sitting over the rear axle , with  -almost- no visual impact of truck's height.
 
He gals/guys isn't life worth living having one or more Syncros in your yard ??!!  Hartmut
 

 

To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
From: rcdale@bigpond.com
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 09:20:59 +1100
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] springs

 
hi francesca
have you tried a local spring manufacturer i had the front units made by universal springs 4/12 powderworks rd hoxten park a suburb of sydney their phone no is 0296074682 they are heavy duty and at the time cost app $100-00 each not fitted. hartment had a drive of my vehicle at the syncro meeting a few years ago along with paul muller i beleave they were impressed with the ride, harmut do you remember if so please comment for francesca, at the same time mullers fitted new shocks when they installed the springs i am happy with them and will by the rear units from the same company when the time comes. i no longer have the tyres rubbing on the wheel arch when going over a curb or braking with the wheels turned.
there is a vw spares company in sydney volksbahn autos that i know that can supply german manufactured syncro  units phone is 0296882933 they are on the web try google to find them. in the end it is your own personell choice which way you go best of luck    regards bob dale
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 10:36 AM
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] springs

 

Hi Ben T,


Could I ask how much you would like for your GoWesty springs?

Thanks,

Francesca.

On 7 February 2011 10:33, BenT Syncro <syncro@gmail.com> wrote:
 

I have both in my possession. Sadly, I am in the US. Otherwise, I could loan them to you for testing. I've never installed the GoWesty after realising all both these springs were designed for a fully laden Syncro Wesfalia camper weighing in at up to 6500lbs. I only have Doublecabs these days that tip the scales at a featherweight 3310lbs.

The GW springs are stiffer than the Syncro.org (Schwenk) springs but are progressive wound. The GW's raise your Syncro about an inch taller. Schwenk is in the process of redesigning his springs and is in the testing phase.

If cost was not a major consideration, I would install a coilover system instead. That opens the option of variable springs rates readily available in the aftermarket. If I remember correctly, www.burleysmotorsports.com was offering a version of these (designed by Eric A.).

BenT

ps: My GW springs are for sale

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On Feb 6, 2011, at 2:11 PM, "nwjfletcher" <nwjfletcher@yahoo.com> wrote:

> probably been asked a million times. Schwenk or Go westy (with OME shocks) for heavy trakka converted camper syncro. Has 15" alloys as fitted by Trakka in 1990, plus 205/75 coopers.
>
> many thanks
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>






19
as far as i remember they were genuine vw thats what was told to me by mullers, my dual cab is fitted with bf goodrich lt215/75 r15 tyres and the distance from the ground to the wheel arch at the front is 815mm with the springs and new shocks, grab a tape measure and check this clearence out on your van, if you find a good spring manufacturer he should be able to make a spring to your requirments as regards to length, thickness and no of turns
If the vw shocks are no longer available old man emu may still have some or have a talk to the lady @ volksbahn aotos via email
regards
bob
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 9:33 AM
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] springs

 

Thanks for those leads, Bob. It might pay to look at a few different options. Possibly putting in 2WD springs which are taller than Syncro ones plus spacers, as others have done, is another cheap option. Could this combo handle a really heavy camper, though? What sort of shocks did Muller put in?


Francesca.

On 8 February 2011 09:20, Bob Dale <rcdale@bigpond.com> wrote:
 

hi francesca
have you tried a local spring manufacturer i had the front units made by universal springs 4/12 powderworks rd hoxten park a suburb of sydney their phone no is 0296074682 they are heavy duty and at the time cost app $100-00 each not fitted. hartment had a drive of my vehicle at the syncro meeting a few years ago along with paul muller i beleave they were impressed with the ride, harmut do you remember if so please comment for francesca, at the same time mullers fitted new shocks when they installed the springs i am happy with them and will by the rear units from the same company when the time comes. i no longer have the tyres rubbing on the wheel arch when going over a curb or braking with the wheels turned.
there is a vw spares company in sydney volksbahn autos that i know that can supply german manufactured syncro  units phone is 0296882933 they are on the web try google to find them. in the end it is your own personell choice which way you go best of luck    regards bob dale
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 10:36 AM
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] springs

 

Hi Ben T,


Could I ask how much you would like for your GoWesty springs?

Thanks,

Francesca.

On 7 February 2011 10:33, BenT Syncro <syncro@gmail.com> wrote:
 

I have both in my possession. Sadly, I am in the US. Otherwise, I could loan them to you for testing. I've never installed the GoWesty after realising all both these springs were designed for a fully laden Syncro Wesfalia camper weighing in at up to 6500lbs. I only have Doublecabs these days that tip the scales at a featherweight 3310lbs.

The GW springs are stiffer than the Syncro.org (Schwenk) springs but are progressive wound. The GW's raise your Syncro about an inch taller. Schwenk is in the process of redesigning his springs and is in the testing phase.

If cost was not a major consideration, I would install a coilover system instead. That opens the option of variable springs rates readily available in the aftermarket. If I remember correctly, www.burleysmotorsports.com was offering a version of these (designed by Eric A.).

BenT

ps: My GW springs are for sale

Sent from my mobile device



On Feb 6, 2011, at 2:11 PM, "nwjfletcher" <nwjfletcher@yahoo.com> wrote:

> probably been asked a million times. Schwenk or Go westy (with OME shocks) for heavy trakka converted camper syncro. Has 15" alloys as fitted by Trakka in 1990, plus 205/75 coopers.
>
> many thanks
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>



20
Francesca, The 2wd springs are in my Syncro, gives a good lift but if you attack ruts at speed they will compress too easily. Your welcome to a look/drive any time (Lloyd has a set hanging off his roof!!!). I only ever intended this as a fill gap till I had springs made. Now that I have the originals as a sample to take to the spring maker I have a base to work on( Bob if you have specs, would appreciate). There is browns spring works in Thomastown and carrols in cambellfield. I am happy with the original rears and spacers. The old man emus are a must though. Greg E

--- On Tue, 8/2/11, Francesca Coles <fcoles6@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Francesca Coles <fcoles6@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] springs
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Received: Tuesday, 8 February, 2011, 9:33 AM

 
Thanks for those leads, Bob. It might pay to look at a few different options. Possibly putting in 2WD springs which are taller than Syncro ones plus spacers, as others have done, is another cheap option. Could this combo handle a really heavy camper, though? What sort of shocks did Muller put in?

Francesca.

On 8 February 2011 09:20, Bob Dale <rcdale@bigpond.com> wrote:
 
hi francesca
have you tried a local spring manufacturer i had the front units made by universal springs 4/12 powderworks rd hoxten park a suburb of sydney their phone no is 0296074682 they are heavy duty and at the time cost app $100-00 each not fitted. hartment had a drive of my vehicle at the syncro meeting a few years ago along with paul muller i beleave they were impressed with the ride, harmut do you remember if so please comment for francesca, at the same time mullers fitted new shocks when they installed the springs i am happy with them and will by the rear units from the same company when the time comes. i no longer have the tyres rubbing on the wheel arch when going over a curb or braking with the wheels turned.
there is a vw spares company in sydney volksbahn autos that i know that can supply german manufactured syncro  units phone is 0296882933 they are on the web try google to find them. in the end it is your own personell choice which way you go best of luck    regards bob dale
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 10:36 AM
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] springs

 
Hi Ben T,

Could I ask how much you would like for your GoWesty springs?

Thanks,

Francesca.

On 7 February 2011 10:33, BenT Syncro <syncro@gmail.com> wrote:
 
I have both in my possession. Sadly, I am in the US. Otherwise, I could loan them to you for testing. I've never installed the GoWesty after realising all both these springs were designed for a fully laden Syncro Wesfalia camper weighing in at up to 6500lbs. I only have Doublecabs these days that tip the scales at a featherweight 3310lbs.

The GW springs are stiffer than the Syncro.org (Schwenk) springs but are progressive wound. The GW's raise your Syncro about an inch taller. Schwenk is in the process of redesigning his springs and is in the testing phase.

If cost was not a major consideration, I would install a coilover system instead. That opens the option of variable springs rates readily available in the aftermarket. If I remember correctly, www.burleysmotorsports.com was offering a version of these (designed by Eric A.).

BenT

ps: My GW springs are for sale

Sent from my mobile device


On Feb 6, 2011, at 2:11 PM, "nwjfletcher" <nwjfletcher@yahoo.com> wrote:

> probably been asked a million times. Schwenk or Go westy (with OME shocks) for heavy trakka converted camper syncro. Has 15" alloys as fitted by Trakka in 1990, plus 205/75 coopers.
>
> many thanks
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>