TRAKKA Pop top

TRAKKA Pop top

Any Trakka pop-top owners might be able to help on this one. I've had an annoying rattle above the windscreen for some time which I've traced to the front section of fiberglass roof. I suspect one of the rivets that holds the roof down at the front has loosened and could do with re-fixing. Has anybody attempted to re-rivet or drilled a rivet  out and replaced it with something else? I'd have thought perhaps long stainless self tappers might be the go there. any ideas?
cheers Murray


-----Original Message-----
From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Les Harris
Sent: Sun 5/11/2008 9:16 AM
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re:Kombis to the Kape

John,

Thanks for the useful observations.  This is what makes group sites like this very worthwhile.

Les

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  Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2008 11:30 PM
  Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re:Kombis to the Kape


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Murray,
 
I have the same problem and the front is beginning to lift, creating an air roar and a potential big leak when driving in rain.  Left unattended, it could easily lift off at highway speeds. 
 
My temporary fix is the run rally tape (not duct tape) from side to side to seal the gap and physically hold the top on.  In the not too distant future, I plan to lift the entire top off, give it a good clean, and reseal the whole thing. 
 
Until I do this, I won't have a chance to evaluate the effectiveness of the two rivets.  It is probable that attaching the front relies on an adhesive and that the two rivets are the insurance.  I will post my findings after I can examine it properly.
 
In the interim, I suggest that you use rally tape to secure yours so that it doesn't separate.
 
Les
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Murray Lee
Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2008 9:54 AM
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] TRAKKA Pop top


Any Trakka pop-top owners might be able to help on this one. I've had an annoying rattle above the windscreen for some time which I've traced to the front section of fiberglass roof. I suspect one of the rivets that holds the roof down at the front has loosened and could do with re-fixing. Has anybody attempted to re-rivet or drilled a rivet  out and replaced it with something else? I'd have thought perhaps long stainless self tappers might be the go there. any ideas?
cheers Murray

.

Ah, yes, typo time!!
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Les Harris
Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2008 10:11 AM
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] TRAKKA Pop top

Murray,
 
My temporary fix is to run rally tape (not duct tape) from side to side to seal the gap and physically hold the top on.  In the not too distant future, I plan to lift the entire top off, give it a good clean, and reseal the whole thing. 
 
.

Gday Murray,

I've had a look at mine and I see the two large rivets out front above
either side of the windscreen.

Obviously they are aluminium rivets holding down the fibreglass base
onto the original steel roof sheeting, the fact they have come loose
suggests it's only that thickness of steel sheeting that the pop rivet
was fastening onto. The reason they are aluminium rivets and not an
alternative stronger metal such as stainless steel or monel metal is
because aluminium rivets can have "closed" heads so they are watertight.
I've never seen a closed head rivet in another metal, not at the usual
retail outlets anyway.

Somewhere along the way the rivets would have started working loose and
worn away the aluminium part of the rivet, not necessarily worn away the
rivet hole through the steel sheeting. It's loose now so if it was me,
I'd be drilling out the rivet. Having done that, then seeing if the same
sized rivet would again do the job or upsize to a larger rivet if the
steel sheeting rivet hole has enlarged. Check first to see what rivet
sizes are available so you know what size drills you can use to match.

I doubt that there would be enough thickness in the steel roof sheeting
to use a self tapper screw, even if you could get a finer thread.

Alternately Murray, I'm thinking ocky straps. Now that'd be pretty cool
... lol.

Cheers.

Ken




--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Murray Lee"
<murray.lee@...> wrote:
>
>
> Any Trakka pop-top owners might be able to help on this one. I've had
an annoying rattle above the windscreen for some time which I've traced
to the front section of fiberglass roof. I suspect one of the rivets
that holds the roof down at the front has loosened and could do with
re-fixing. Has anybody attempted to re-rivet or drilled a rivet out and
replaced it with something else? I'd have thought perhaps long stainless
self tappers might be the go there. any ideas?
> cheers Murray
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Les Harris
> Sent: Sun 5/11/2008 9:16 AM
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re:Kombis to the Kape
>
> John,
>
> Thanks for the useful observations. This is what makes group sites
like this very worthwhile.
>
> Les
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: johnfiggis
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2008 11:30 PM
> Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re:Kombis to the Kape
>
>
> Roger,more thoughts on the trip.
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RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: TRAKKA Pop top

Thanks Las and Ken,

Good advice indeed. Les, I thought I may have the same issue as you as I recall you mentioning it before. i only now realised the rattle was the loose rivet - confirmed by my pushing it down with my hand on the roof while driving; stopped the rattle and the little wind rush sound you mentioned with yours.

I reckon I could easily drill out one as an experiment and try to rivet. Still happy to hear from anyone whose  tried it!

Cheers Murray


-----Original Message-----
From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Ken
Sent: Sun 5/11/2008 5:36 PM
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: TRAKKA Pop top


Gday Murray,

I've had a look at mine and I see the two large rivets out front above
either side of the windscreen.

Obviously they are aluminium rivets holding down the fibreglass base
onto the original steel roof sheeting, the fact they have come loose
suggests it's only that thickness of steel sheeting that the pop rivet
was fastening onto. The reason they are aluminium rivets and not an
alternative stronger metal such as stainless steel or monel metal is
because aluminium rivets can have "closed" heads so they are watertight.
I've never seen a closed head rivet in another metal, not at the usual
retail outlets anyway.

Somewhere along the way the rivets would have started working loose and
worn away the aluminium part of the rivet, not necessarily worn away the
rivet hole through the steel sheeting. It's loose now so if it was me,
I'd be drilling out the rivet. Having done that, then seeing if the same
sized rivet would again do the job or upsize to a larger rivet if the
steel sheeting rivet hole has enlarged. Check first to see what rivet
sizes are available so you know what size drills you can use to match.

I doubt that there would be enough thickness in the steel roof sheeting
to use a self tapper screw, even if you could get a finer thread.

Alternately Murray, I'm thinking ocky straps. Now that'd be pretty cool
... lol.

Cheers.

Ken




--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Murray Lee"
<murray.lee@...> wrote:

>
>
> Any Trakka pop-top owners might be able to help on this one. I've had
an annoying rattle above the windscreen for some time which I've traced
to the front section of fiberglass roof. I suspect one of the rivets
that holds the roof down at the front has loosened and could do with
re-fixing. Has anybody attempted to re-rivet or drilled a rivet out and
replaced it with something else? I'd have thought perhaps long stainless
self tappers might be the go there. any ideas?
> cheers Murray
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Les Harris
> Sent: Sun 5/11/2008 9:16 AM
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re:Kombis to the Kape
>
> John,
>
> Thanks for the useful observations. This is what makes group sites
like this very worthwhile.
>
> Les
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: johnfiggis
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2008 11:30 PM
> Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re:Kombis to the Kape
>
>
> Roger,more thoughts on the trip.
> Recent Activity
> a.. 1New Members
> Visit Your Group
> Health Zone
> Look your best!
>
> Groups to help you
>
> look & feel great.
>
> Yahoo! News
> Odd News
>
> You won't believe
>
> it, but it's true
>
> Y! Groups blog
> The place to go
>
> to stay informed
>
> on Groups news!
> .
>