Hi All
Sorry about the last post, I'm having some email problem.
However, I'd appreciate some tyre help from those in the know. I'm currently running 15" alloys 6.5 JJ x 15. I'm currently running road tyres 205 70 15 95H which are thankfully almost worn out. Would there be any problems running Dunlop A/T 225/75R15 (102 S)? I realise the speedo would be out a little but is there any problems re width (apart from the spare fitting)? I know from OS sites people seem to run this size.
Cheers Murray
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Sent: Fri 11/9/2007 8:18 PM
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Syncros for sale
No, this Syncro is probably for Deb. Max will get his once he starts walking.
Les
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Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 6:07 PM
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Syncros for sale
Gday Mark,
quote: "Ken - as it is close to you, have you looked at this vehicle? It has low miles."
Forgive me Mark but is that just a subtle way of asking me could I go take a peek a boo at it? .. lol
Isn't Max still a bit young to own his own syncro? ... haha
Cheers.
Ken
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Hi Murray,
The tyres I had on mine for a couple of years before I sold it were 215/75 x 15 (on Audi A4 rims; ET45 but with 10mm spacers). 225’s would only be 10mm wider (5mm each side), so should fit, but it will depend on the offset of your rims as well. I’m pretty sure I’ve heard of people running 235’s as well.
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Hiya,
On 09.11.2007, at 10:24, Murray Lee wrote:
> 205 70 15 95H which are thankfully almost worn out. Would there be
> any problems running Dunlop A/T 225/75R15 (102 S)? I realise the
> speedo would be out a little but is there any problems re width
> (apart from the spare fitting)? I know from OS sites people seem to
> run this size.
225/75R15 is pretty large already :) You will need stronger springs
in front, e.g. from DoKa and some 15mm lifting for the rear to lift
the whole car a little bit, or you will have to cut the rear edge of
the wheel houses in front. Some people sucessfully run such sizes
without doing anything to the body, but it's probably not the best to
do, as hard breaking or really bad roads will move the wheels in
positions you can't even dream of in your garage.... ET30 or so is
maximum you can drive i think, more than that will probably generate
even more problems at the rear swinging arm. Or you witch to 16" in
the rear, cut even more and are very happy guy :)
Ciao,
Martn
>
> Cheers Murray
>
>
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> Sent: Fri 11/9/2007 8:18 PM
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Syncros for sale
>
> No, this Syncro is probably for Deb. Max will get his once he
> starts walking.
>
> Les
>
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> Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 6:07 PM
> Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Syncros for sale
>
>
>
> Gday Mark,
>
> quote: "Ken - as it is close to you, have you looked at this
> vehicle? It has low miles."
>
> Forgive me Mark but is that just a subtle way of asking me could
> I go take a peek a boo at it? .. lol
>
> Isn't Max still a bit young to own his own syncro? ... haha
>
> Cheers.
>
> Ken
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More on tyres;
I love BFG AT's. I've used them on Range Rovers and Syncros for ten or twelve years. They last for ever and are as tough as nails, and surprisingly quiet and vice-free for that type of tread. They are the only tyre that I have never staked. Unfortunately they are no longer available in 14" so I have been researching the alternatives for my Syncro.
A word about Cooper tyres: you either love them or hate them. I run a set of Cooper ATs on a spare set of rims as highway tyres for the Range Rover, but I won't buy them again. [The BFG Muddies are too good to waste on the bitumen]. Coopers have a reputation as tough as BFG's, but suffer from tread-squirm when new, requiring constant steering correction. I had to pump them up much higher than the BFG's, but they still wander all over the road. A mate had Coopers fitted to his 2WD T3 and took them back the next day because he couldn't keep it on the road. The extra-deep tread and high silica content gives them good milage, but poor traction on wet bitumen. Another mate fitted Coopers to his Rodeo, and now he has to put it in low-range 4WD just to get up his steep cement driveway when it rains. He hates them but the buggers just won't wear out. Luckily it doesn't rain much around here.
Although the BFG A/T 215/75/R15 is very popular for Syncros it is too big to fit the spare wheel carrier without grinding the chassis and deflating the tyre. At the risk of offending some people, the large diameter increases overall gearing, making it too tall for a stock engine on the highway or in the bush. Fuel consumption suffers and brake efficiency decreases. Stress is increased on steering, suspension and transmission components. Has anyone ever done a survey to see if transmission breakages are confined to Syncros with big wheels and/or big engines?
In my opinion it is better to admit that the VW engineers knew their stuff, and stick to a tyre diameter as close as possible to the original Michelin X 205/14 LT tyre to retain the stock gearing.
According to the forums, the maximum tyre O.D that will fit the spare wheel carrier is 704 mm. Some 235 section tyres may have clearance problems with the sliding door, requiring modification.
Tyres for the syncro must carry a load rating of 97 or higher, [although it is interesting to note that 14" BFG's only had a load rating of only 95]. "P" [passenger] tyres should be avoided as the sidewalls are not stiff enough. "LT" [light truck] rating is recommended.
Good websites to check out; www.roadhaus.com/tyres html
Tirerack.com
www.consumersearch.com/suv-tires
I've already told the story of how I decided on Firestone Destination AT 205/75R15 100S. I fitted them to a set of Mercedes CSA 15"X6.5 JJ alloys with 35mm offset. They fit nicely and the rear tyre clears the sliding door by roughly 8mm. I tried them out today and noticed some immediate differences straight away from the old worn-out BFG AT 27X8.5R14's.
It's not really fair to compare an old tyre with a new one, especially when they are mounted on different rims, but here are my first impressions:
Steering is much lighter and more accurate with the new tyres, and corners can be attacked with more confidence because the van tracks better.
Noise is much lower.
The new tyres have noticeably less rolling resistance. I could push the van around the shed much more easily, and the vehicle coasts a lot further before losing speed. This means that I now have to use the brakes more, but it might contribute to less fuel consumption.
The brakes don't feel as sharp as they used to, due to the larger diameter tyres. The brakes are already prone to overheating on long mountain descents and will probably be worse now, but at least I'll be able to fit a set of "big brakes" inside the 15" rims.
The change in overall gearing due to the larger tyres can be noticed only slightly when climbing long freeway hills. It is probably cancelled out to some extent by the reduced rolling resistance.
The ride on the new tyres is quite firm, probably a little harsher than the BFG's, no doubt due to the stiffer sidewall and heavier load rating. Things might improve if I drop the tyre pressures a bit - at the moment I'm running 40/45 psi.
Here's the important bit - the hillclimb test. I tried it out on a particularly steep and nasty climb made up of loose crumbling sandstone that has been churned into dry slurry. It's a good test for any vehicle - the Range Rover will idle up it, but most other vehicles do it pretty hard, especially the oriental utes - they churn great holes into the mountainside before having to reverse back down. There's plenty of broken plastic and scarred trees beside the track. I have driven it three or four times in the Syncro on BFG's without any trouble, but on the less aggressive Firestones it scrambled for traction so I had to stop, back up a metre or so, and engage the diff lock.
Maybe I'm running to much air pressure, and I will go back again and try it at lower pressures, but my impression is that although the Firestone is an excellent tyre in most conditions, when the chips are down the BFG will come on through.
I'm very happy so far with the Firestones for 99% of conditions, but as I suspected they fall a bit short in really extreme conditions. If I was contemplating a cross-country expedition I would stick to BFG, but for the rest of the time the Firestones seem to be a better all-round choice.
I'll be trying it ot next week on a three-day bush trip, and after that on my regular highway jaunt down to the south coast,so I'll keep you posted on the fuel consumption issue.
Cheers, Roger.
I love BFG AT's. I've used them on Range Rovers and Syncros for ten or twelve years. They last for ever and are as tough as nails, and surprisingly quiet and vice-free for that type of tread. They are the only tyre that I have never staked. Unfortunately they are no longer available in 14" so I have been researching the alternatives for my Syncro.
A word about Cooper tyres: you either love them or hate them. I run a set of Cooper ATs on a spare set of rims as highway tyres for the Range Rover, but I won't buy them again. [The BFG Muddies are too good to waste on the bitumen]. Coopers have a reputation as tough as BFG's, but suffer from tread-squirm when new, requiring constant steering correction. I had to pump them up much higher than the BFG's, but they still wander all over the road. A mate had Coopers fitted to his 2WD T3 and took them back the next day because he couldn't keep it on the road. The extra-deep tread and high silica content gives them good milage, but poor traction on wet bitumen. Another mate fitted Coopers to his Rodeo, and now he has to put it in low-range 4WD just to get up his steep cement driveway when it rains. He hates them but the buggers just won't wear out. Luckily it doesn't rain much around here.
Although the BFG A/T 215/75/R15 is very popular for Syncros it is too big to fit the spare wheel carrier without grinding the chassis and deflating the tyre. At the risk of offending some people, the large diameter increases overall gearing, making it too tall for a stock engine on the highway or in the bush. Fuel consumption suffers and brake efficiency decreases. Stress is increased on steering, suspension and transmission components. Has anyone ever done a survey to see if transmission breakages are confined to Syncros with big wheels and/or big engines?
In my opinion it is better to admit that the VW engineers knew their stuff, and stick to a tyre diameter as close as possible to the original Michelin X 205/14 LT tyre to retain the stock gearing.
According to the forums, the maximum tyre O.D that will fit the spare wheel carrier is 704 mm. Some 235 section tyres may have clearance problems with the sliding door, requiring modification.
Tyres for the syncro must carry a load rating of 97 or higher, [although it is interesting to note that 14" BFG's only had a load rating of only 95]. "P" [passenger] tyres should be avoided as the sidewalls are not stiff enough. "LT" [light truck] rating is recommended.
Good websites to check out; www.roadhaus.com/tyres html
Tirerack.com
www.consumersearch.com/suv-tires
I've already told the story of how I decided on Firestone Destination AT 205/75R15 100S. I fitted them to a set of Mercedes CSA 15"X6.5 JJ alloys with 35mm offset. They fit nicely and the rear tyre clears the sliding door by roughly 8mm. I tried them out today and noticed some immediate differences straight away from the old worn-out BFG AT 27X8.5R14's.
It's not really fair to compare an old tyre with a new one, especially when they are mounted on different rims, but here are my first impressions:
Steering is much lighter and more accurate with the new tyres, and corners can be attacked with more confidence because the van tracks better.
Noise is much lower.
The new tyres have noticeably less rolling resistance. I could push the van around the shed much more easily, and the vehicle coasts a lot further before losing speed. This means that I now have to use the brakes more, but it might contribute to less fuel consumption.
The brakes don't feel as sharp as they used to, due to the larger diameter tyres. The brakes are already prone to overheating on long mountain descents and will probably be worse now, but at least I'll be able to fit a set of "big brakes" inside the 15" rims.
The change in overall gearing due to the larger tyres can be noticed only slightly when climbing long freeway hills. It is probably cancelled out to some extent by the reduced rolling resistance.
The ride on the new tyres is quite firm, probably a little harsher than the BFG's, no doubt due to the stiffer sidewall and heavier load rating. Things might improve if I drop the tyre pressures a bit - at the moment I'm running 40/45 psi.
Here's the important bit - the hillclimb test. I tried it out on a particularly steep and nasty climb made up of loose crumbling sandstone that has been churned into dry slurry. It's a good test for any vehicle - the Range Rover will idle up it, but most other vehicles do it pretty hard, especially the oriental utes - they churn great holes into the mountainside before having to reverse back down. There's plenty of broken plastic and scarred trees beside the track. I have driven it three or four times in the Syncro on BFG's without any trouble, but on the less aggressive Firestones it scrambled for traction so I had to stop, back up a metre or so, and engage the diff lock.
Maybe I'm running to much air pressure, and I will go back again and try it at lower pressures, but my impression is that although the Firestone is an excellent tyre in most conditions, when the chips are down the BFG will come on through.
I'm very happy so far with the Firestones for 99% of conditions, but as I suspected they fall a bit short in really extreme conditions. If I was contemplating a cross-country expedition I would stick to BFG, but for the rest of the time the Firestones seem to be a better all-round choice.
I'll be trying it ot next week on a three-day bush trip, and after that on my regular highway jaunt down to the south coast,so I'll keep you posted on the fuel consumption issue.
Cheers, Roger.
> Tyres for the syncro must carry a load rating of 97 or higher,I'd like to know how VW worked out their load ratings. My calculations show that 95 should be OK.
> [although it is interesting to note that 14" BFG's only had a load rating of only 95].
> "P" [passenger] tyres should be avoided as the sidewalls are not stiffStiff sidewall = less prone to sidewall damage/harder ride/poor handling
> enough. "LT" [light truck] rating is recommended.
Soft sidewall = More prone to damage/quieter/better handling/better ride
I have two sets of wheels.
For off road, BFG AT 215/75 x 15 on steel rims.
For highway and back roads with a bit of dirt I have 15x7 alloys. These are what I want the tyres for.
I am now looking at "Toyo Open Country All Terrain" in 205/70x15. These have a rolling radius of 333 which is only 2mm more than the standard Michelins,
Does anyone here have any experience with Toyos?
I have done a few searches and have only found complaints about wear, which doesn't bother me.
> It's not really fair to compare an old tyre with a new one, especiallyMost people don't think that way. So it is hard to research.
> when they are mounted on different rims,
The best tyres that I have ever had were Michelins that were on my '83 Range Rover. Unfortunately they no longer make that tred pattern.
Phill
now this is a very intelligent post on tires ( tyers ) !!
----- Original Message -----From: Gullyraker@aol.comSent: Saturday, July 03, 2010 1:22 AMSubject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] tyresMore on tyres;
I love BFG AT's. I've used them on Range Rovers and Syncros for ten or twelve years. They last for ever and are as tough as nails, and surprisingly quiet and vice-free for that type of tread. They are the only tyre that I have never staked. Unfortunately they are no longer available in 14" so I have been researching the alternatives for my Syncro.
A word about Cooper tyres: you either love them or hate them. I run a set of Cooper ATs on a spare set of rims as highway tyres for the Range Rover, but I won't buy them again. [The BFG Muddies are too good to waste on the bitumen]. Coopers have a reputation as tough as BFG's, but suffer from tread-squirm when new, requiring constant steering correction. I had to pump them up much higher than the BFG's, but they still wander all over the road. A mate had Coopers fitted to his 2WD T3 and took them back the next day because he couldn't keep it on the road. The extra-deep tread and high silica content gives them good milage, but poor traction on wet bitumen. Another mate fitted Coopers to his Rodeo, and now he has to put it in low-range 4WD just to get up his steep cement driveway when it rains. He hates them but the buggers just won't wear out. Luckily it doesn't rain much around here.
Although the BFG A/T 215/75/R15 is very popular for Syncros it is too big to fit the spare wheel carrier without grinding the chassis and deflating the tyre. At the risk of offending some people, the large diameter increases overall gearing, making it too tall for a stock engine on the highway or in the bush. Fuel consumption suffers and brake efficiency decreases. Stress is increased on steering, suspension and transmission components. Has anyone ever done a survey to see if transmission breakages are confined to Syncros with big wheels and/or big engines?
In my opinion it is better to admit that the VW engineers knew their stuff, and stick to a tyre diameter as close as possible to the original Michelin X 205/14 LT tyre to retain the stock gearing.
According to the forums, the maximum tyre O.D that will fit the spare wheel carrier is 704 mm. Some 235 section tyres may have clearance problems with the sliding door, requiring modification.
Tyres for the syncro must carry a load rating of 97 or higher, [although it is interesting to note that 14" BFG's only had a load rating of only 95]. "P" [passenger] tyres should be avoided as the sidewalls are not stiff enough. "LT" [light truck] rating is recommended.
Good websites to check out; www.roadhaus. com/tyres html
Tirerack.com
www.consumersearch. com/suv-tires
I've already told the story of how I decided on Firestone Destination AT 205/75R15 100S. I fitted them to a set of Mercedes CSA 15"X6.5 JJ alloys with 35mm offset. They fit nicely and the rear tyre clears the sliding door by roughly 8mm. I tried them out today and noticed some immediate differences straight away from the old worn-out BFG AT 27X8.5R14's.
It's not really fair to compare an old tyre with a new one, especially when they are mounted on different rims, but here are my first impressions:
Steering is much lighter and more accurate with the new tyres, and corners can be attacked with more confidence because the van tracks better.
Noise is much lower.
The new tyres have noticeably less rolling resistance. I could push the van around the shed much more easily, and the vehicle coasts a lot further before losing speed. This means that I now have to use the brakes more, but it might contribute to less fuel consumption.
The brakes don't feel as sharp as they used to, due to the larger diameter tyres. The brakes are already prone to overheating on long mountain descents and will probably be worse now, but at least I'll be able to fit a set of "big brakes" inside the 15" rims.
The change in overall gearing due to the larger tyres can be noticed only slightly when climbing long freeway hills. It is probably cancelled out to some extent by the reduced rolling resistance.
The ride on the new tyres is quite firm, probably a little harsher than the BFG's, no doubt due to the stiffer sidewall and heavier load rating. Things might improve if I drop the tyre pressures a bit - at the moment I'm running 40/45 psi.
Here's the important bit - the hillclimb test. I tried it out on a particularly steep and nasty climb made up of loose crumbling sandstone that has been churned into dry slurry. It's a good test for any vehicle - the Range Rover will idle up it, but most other vehicles do it pretty hard, especially the oriental utes - they churn great holes into the mountainside before having to reverse back down. There's plenty of broken plastic and scarred trees beside the track. I have driven it three or four times in the Syncro on BFG's without any trouble, but on the less aggressive Firestones it scrambled for traction so I had to stop, back up a metre or so, and engage the diff lock.
Maybe I'm running to much air pressure, and I will go back again and try it at lower pressures, but my impression is that although the Firestone is an excellent tyre in most conditions, when the chips are down the BFG will come on through.
I'm very happy so far with the Firestones for 99% of conditions, but as I suspected they fall a bit short in really extreme conditions. If I was contemplating a cross-country expedition I would stick to BFG, but for the rest of the time the Firestones seem to be a better all-round choice.
I'll be trying it ot next week on a three-day bush trip, and after that on my regular highway jaunt down to the south coast,so I'll keep you posted on the fuel consumption issue.
Cheers, Roger.
> Scott Daniel - Turbovans <ScottDaniel@turbovans.com> wrote:There is no way that this is normal for car forums and I think that Roger should receive a warning.
>
> now this is a very intelligent post on tires ( tyers ) !!
Normally, all of the old wive's tales and myths come out when it's about tyres.
BFG A/T
"Sidewall failures only happen when the raised white lettering is on the outside"
LT tyres
"Because the Transporter is a commercial vehicle it requires light truck tyres". "Caravelles are OK with passenger car tyres."
Any tyres
"These tyres are garbage because they wore out on one edge!" (Have you thought about a wheel alignment idiot?)
This is the type of stuff that I have been reading the last few days.
Phill
the way my spare tyre carrier was modified by john
ford to allow the fitting of BFG/AT tyre was to lower the hinge point
of the carrier with a spacer which creates a deeper space for the tyre and
rim
bob
yep that's an alternate solution, much the same as others who have added spacers to lower the front of the wheel carrier.
those mods would make driving in sand more "interesting" eh.
Ken
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
From: rcdale@bigpond.com
Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2010 08:42:33 +1000
Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] tyres
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those mods would make driving in sand more "interesting" eh.
Ken
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
From: rcdale@bigpond.com
Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2010 08:42:33 +1000
Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] tyres
the way my spare tyre carrier was modified by john ford to allow the fitting of BFG/AT tyre was to lower the hinge point of the carrier with a spacer which creates a deeper space for the tyre and rim
bob
Find it on Domain.com.au Need a new place to live?
While on the suject of BFGs.
I have some half worn 215/75x15s that I will be removing as they are passed their 6 year use by date.
Does anyone want them for use as a spare or to measure fitment? Let me know before I get the new tyres.
Phill
I have some half worn 215/75x15s that I will be removing as they are passed their 6 year use by date.
Does anyone want them for use as a spare or to measure fitment? Let me know before I get the new tyres.
Phill
> Ken Garratt <unclekenz@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Scott,
> Never ever believe you guys on the wrong side of the planet don't amuse
> us ok .. haha
>
> re: "about how big a spare tire (erm ... tyre) will fit under the
> front". As I said previously, well suck it and see. There's no magic
> bullet on this. Given the past edict of a mental giant that it can't be
> done, then this issue has remained dormant and unchartered. All I know
> is I have a BFG 215 75 R15 under, sitting on an unmodified wheel
> holder/skidplate. Meaning my entry clearance remains stock. So why would
> I want to consider major mods the like of which you suggest?
>
> re: "At some point a large diameter spare tyre rubs on the steering
> shaft". Yep, the wider the tyre, the harder it rubs. The steering shaft
> clearly is THE limiting determinent to tyre width in a stock standard
> wheel holder. But do you know where exactly and how much interference on
> the tyre does the shaft rub? Now in my case, if it rubs to the degree
> that after real life testing, (and I don't have power steering so
> rubbing would be far more noticeable) I determined that it doesn't pose
> as a problem, neither to the tyre nor the steering action. You seem to
> be contending this issue is a problem, do you still think so should I?
>
> I did the mod nearly 2 years ago. Heh I'll keep you posted on how I'm
> doing ok haha. Enjoy your rear tyre carrier.
> Cheers.
> Ken
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> From: ScottDaniel@turbovans.com
> Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2010 15:56:03 -0700
> Subject: Re: FW: [Syncro_T3_Australia] tyres
>
>
>
>
>
> fun reading.
> about how big a spare tire will fit under the front ..ooops ..'tyre.'
>
> width is one factor of course..and you can make a custom tyre holder, or
> lower a stock one..
> and that the real limit is .............is diamter.
> At some point a large diameter spare tyre rubs on the steering shaft.
> At least on left hand drive models..
> I would think yours would have the same issue, but on the right side of
> the van, rather than left like we do.
>
> you can build a nice heavy duty front bumper with spare tire mount on
> top of it..
> I like that ..'for opening gates' ....great reason to have the spare on
> the nose !
>
> as for pedestrian assult with side mirror parts ..
> modern cars are now designed shape-wise not only for aerodynamcis, and
> crash safety ..
> now there are standards about reducing pedestrial injury when a car hits
> one.
>
> is there some reason or law you can't put a spare on the nose of your
> Syncro's ?
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Gullyraker@aol.com
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, July 05, 2010 12:45 AM
> Subject: Re: FW: [Syncro_T3_Australia] tyres
>
>
>
> Hi Ken
> I agree about the inconvenience of rear tyre carriers, and
> value the extra safety of carrying the spare underneath where the
> designer intended. Not only does it help with weight distribution and
> low centre of gravity, but it probably contributes to crash safety as
> well.
>
> I am pleased to hear that it's possible to fit a 215/75R15 BFG in the
> spare wheel carrier - I have read elsewhere that this is not possible.
> Did you have to take to the chassis with an angle grinder?
>
> Wot a pity we can't mount our spare wheels on the bull-bar like the
> old Kombi's, they were great for push-starting other cars, opening
> gates, and shunting dawdlers out of the way. Their value in venting road
> rage on hapless citizens was beyond value - provided you could catch
> them.
>
> The only thing that I miss more than that was the bent 6mm bar that
> supported the side mirrors on the old split-screen kombi's. If you
> adjusted it correctly the bar protruded just enough to part the hair of
> a pedestrian without penetrating the cranium. It was great sport on
> pedestrian crossings, and saved wear and tear on the brakes.
>
> I can remember actually looking forward to driving through the city in
> those balmy days of my youth.
>
> Only last week I was stopped in the mall by one of my pedestrian
> playmates who thanked me profusely. He calculated that I had added hours
> of quality time to his life over the last 40 years by saving him 10
> seconds each morning parting his hair. The scar was as straight as the
> course of a bullet. Every Anzac Day complete strangers bought him
> drinks.
>
> I'm thinking of reliving those glory days by mounting a discreet
> remote-controlled slingshot behind the front grille. Or do you think
> that this would be an insensitive thing to do - considering that I might
> have to drill holes in a classic vehicle to attach it?
>
> Cheers, Roger.
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Phill,
Any of those tyres still available? If so then let me know please, the imponderable though is you are south of Sydney, I'm in Gosford. No hurry but do you ever have reason to travel through the Hornsby to Eastwood corridor suburbs?
Cheers.
Ken
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
From: plander@optusnet.com.au
Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2010 11:10:24 +1000
Subject: Re: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] tyres
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Any of those tyres still available? If so then let me know please, the imponderable though is you are south of Sydney, I'm in Gosford. No hurry but do you ever have reason to travel through the Hornsby to Eastwood corridor suburbs?
Cheers.
Ken
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
From: plander@optusnet.com.au
Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2010 11:10:24 +1000
Subject: Re: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] tyres
While on the suject of BFGs.
I have some half worn 215/75x15s that I will be removing as they are passed their 6 year use by date.
Does anyone want them for use as a spare or to measure fitment? Let me know before I get the new tyres.
Phill
I have some half worn 215/75x15s that I will be removing as they are passed their 6 year use by date.
Does anyone want them for use as a spare or to measure fitment? Let me know before I get the new tyres.
Phill
> Ken Garratt <unclekenz@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Scott,
> Never ever believe you guys on the wrong side of the planet don't amuse
> us ok .. haha
>
> re: "about how big a spare tire (erm ... tyre) will fit under the
> front". As I said previously, well suck it and see. There's no magic
> bullet on this. Given the past edict of a mental giant that it can't be
> done, then this issue has remained dormant and unchartered. All I know
> is I have a BFG 215 75 R15 under, sitting on an unmodified wheel
> holder/skidplate. Meaning my entry clearance remains stock. So why would
> I want to consider major mods the like of which you suggest?
>
> re: "At some point a large diameter spare tyre rubs on the steering
> shaft". Yep, the wider the tyre, the harder it rubs. The steering shaft
> clearly is THE limiting determinent to tyre width in a stock standard
> wheel holder. But do you know where exactly and how much interference on
> the tyre does the shaft rub? Now in my case, if it rubs to the degree
> that after real life testing, (and I don't have power steering so
> rubbing would be far more noticeable) I determined that it doesn't pose
> as a problem, neither to the tyre nor the steering action. You seem to
> be contending this issue is a problem, do you still think so should I?
>
> I did the mod nearly 2 years ago. Heh I'll keep you posted on how I'm
> doing ok haha. Enjoy your rear tyre carrier.
> Cheers.
> Ken
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> From: ScottDaniel@turbovans.com
> Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2010 15:56:03 -0700
> Subject: Re: FW: [Syncro_T3_Australia] tyres
>
>
>
>
>
> fun reading.
> about how big a spare tire will fit under the front ..ooops ..'tyre.'
>
> width is one factor of course..and you can make a custom tyre holder, or
> lower a stock one..
> and that the real limit is .............is diamter.
> At some point a large diameter spare tyre rubs on the steering shaft.
> At least on left hand drive models..
> I would think yours would have the same issue, but on the right side of
> the van, rather than left like we do.
>
> you can build a nice heavy duty front bumper with spare tire mount on
> top of it..
> I like that ..'for opening gates' ....great reason to have the spare on
> the nose !
>
> as for pedestrian assult with side mirror parts ..
> modern cars are now designed shape-wise not only for aerodynamcis, and
> crash safety ..
> now there are standards about reducing pedestrial injury when a car hits
> one.
>
> is there some reason or law you can't put a spare on the nose of your
> Syncro's ?
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Gullyraker@aol.com
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, July 05, 2010 12:45 AM
> Subject: Re: FW: [Syncro_T3_Australia] tyres
>
>
>
> Hi Ken
> I agree about the inconvenience of rear tyre carriers, and
> value the extra safety of carrying the spare underneath where the
> designer intended. Not only does it help with weight distribution and
> low centre of gravity, but it probably contributes to crash safety as
> well.
>
> I am pleased to hear that it's possible to fit a 215/75R15 BFG in the
> spare wheel carrier - I have read elsewhere that this is not possible.
> Did you have to take to the chassis with an angle grinder?
>
> Wot a pity we can't mount our spare wheels on the bull-bar like the
> old Kombi's, they were great for push-starting other cars, opening
> gates, and shunting dawdlers out of the way. Their value in venting road
> rage on hapless citizens was beyond value - provided you could catch
> them.
>
> The only thing that I miss more than that was the bent 6mm bar that
> supported the side mirrors on the old split-screen kombi's. If you
> adjusted it correctly the bar protruded just enough to part the hair of
> a pedestrian without penetrating the cranium. It was great sport on
> pedestrian crossings, and saved wear and tear on the brakes.
>
> I can remember actually looking forward to driving through the city in
> those balmy days of my youth.
>
> Only last week I was stopped in the mall by one of my pedestrian
> playmates who thanked me profusely. He calculated that I had added hours
> of quality time to his life over the last 40 years by saving him 10
> seconds each morning parting his hair. The scar was as straight as the
> course of a bullet. Every Anzac Day complete strangers bought him
> drinks.
>
> I'm thinking of reliving those glory days by mounting a discreet
> remote-controlled slingshot behind the front grille. Or do you think
> that this would be an insensitive thing to do - considering that I might
> have to drill holes in a classic vehicle to attach it?
>
> Cheers, Roger.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Find it on Domain.com.au Need a new place to live?
OK Ken, you're number 2 on the list.
I can get to Eastwood.
I can get to Eastwood.
> Ken Garratt <unclekenz@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Phill,
>
> Any of those tyres still available? If so then let me know please, the
> imponderable though is you are south of Sydney, I'm in Gosford. No hurry
> but do you ever have reason to travel through the Hornsby to Eastwood
> corridor suburbs?
>
> Cheers.
>
> Ken
>
>
>
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> From: plander@optusnet.com.au
> Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2010 11:10:24 +1000
> Subject: Re: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] tyres
>
>
>
>
>
> While on the suject of BFGs.
>
> I have some half worn 215/75x15s that I will be removing as they are
> passed their 6 year use by date.
> Does anyone want them for use as a spare or to measure fitment? Let me
> know before I get the new tyres.
>
> Phill
>
> > Ken Garratt <unclekenz@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Scott,
> > Never ever believe you guys on the wrong side of the planet don't
> amuse
> > us ok .. haha
> >
> > re: "about how big a spare tire (erm ... tyre) will fit under the
> > front". As I said previously, well suck it and see. There's no magic
> > bullet on this. Given the past edict of a mental giant that it can't
> be
> > done, then this issue has remained dormant and unchartered. All I know
>
> > is I have a BFG 215 75 R15 under, sitting on an unmodified wheel
> > holder/skidplate. Meaning my entry clearance remains stock. So why
> would
> > I want to consider major mods the like of which you suggest?
> >
> > re: "At some point a large diameter spare tyre rubs on the steering
> > shaft". Yep, the wider the tyre, the harder it rubs. The steering
> shaft
> > clearly is THE limiting determinent to tyre width in a stock standard
> > wheel holder. But do you know where exactly and how much interference
> on
> > the tyre does the shaft rub? Now in my case, if it rubs to the degree
> > that after real life testing, (and I don't have power steering so
> > rubbing would be far more noticeable) I determined that it doesn't
> pose
> > as a problem, neither to the tyre nor the steering action. You seem to
>
> > be contending this issue is a problem, do you still think so should I?
> >
> > I did the mod nearly 2 years ago. Heh I'll keep you posted on how I'm
> > doing ok haha. Enjoy your rear tyre carrier.
> > Cheers.
> > Ken
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > From: ScottDaniel@turbovans.com
> > Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2010 15:56:03 -0700
> > Subject: Re: FW: [Syncro_T3_Australia] tyres
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > fun reading.
> > about how big a spare tire will fit under the front ..ooops ..'tyre.'
> >
> > width is one factor of course..and you can make a custom tyre holder,
> or
> > lower a stock one..
> > and that the real limit is .............is diamter.
> > At some point a large diameter spare tyre rubs on the steering shaft.
> > At least on left hand drive models..
> > I would think yours would have the same issue, but on the right side
> of
> > the van, rather than left like we do.
> >
> > you can build a nice heavy duty front bumper with spare tire mount on
> > top of it..
> > I like that ..'for opening gates' ....great reason to have the spare
> on
> > the nose !
> >
> > as for pedestrian assult with side mirror parts ..
> > modern cars are now designed shape-wise not only for aerodynamcis, and
>
> > crash safety ..
> > now there are standards about reducing pedestrial injury when a car
> hits
> > one.
> >
> > is there some reason or law you can't put a spare on the nose of your
> > Syncro's ?
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Gullyraker@aol.com
> > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Monday, July 05, 2010 12:45 AM
> > Subject: Re: FW: [Syncro_T3_Australia] tyres
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Ken
> > I agree about the inconvenience of rear tyre carriers, and
> > value the extra safety of carrying the spare underneath where the
> > designer intended. Not only does it help with weight distribution and
> > low centre of gravity, but it probably contributes to crash safety as
> > well.
> >
> > I am pleased to hear that it's possible to fit a 215/75R15 BFG in the
> > spare wheel carrier - I have read elsewhere that this is not possible.
>
> > Did you have to take to the chassis with an angle grinder?
> >
> > Wot a pity we can't mount our spare wheels on the bull-bar like the
> > old Kombi's, they were great for push-starting other cars, opening
> > gates, and shunting dawdlers out of the way. Their value in venting
> road
> > rage on hapless citizens was beyond value - provided you could catch
> > them.
> >
> > The only thing that I miss more than that was the bent 6mm bar that
> > supported the side mirrors on the old split-screen kombi's. If you
> > adjusted it correctly the bar protruded just enough to part the hair
> of
> > a pedestrian without penetrating the cranium. It was great sport on
> > pedestrian crossings, and saved wear and tear on the brakes.
> >
> > I can remember actually looking forward to driving through the city in
>
> > those balmy days of my youth.
> >
> > Only last week I was stopped in the mall by one of my pedestrian
> > playmates who thanked me profusely. He calculated that I had added
> hours
> > of quality time to his life over the last 40 years by saving him 10
> > seconds each morning parting his hair. The scar was as straight as the
>
> > course of a bullet. Every Anzac Day complete strangers bought him
> > drinks.
> >
> > I'm thinking of reliving those glory days by mounting a discreet
> > remote-controlled slingshot behind the front grille. Or do you think
> > that this would be an insensitive thing to do - considering that I
> might
> > have to drill holes in a classic vehicle to attach it?
> >
> > Cheers, Roger.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > __________________________________________________________
> > View photos of singles in your area! Looking for a hot date?
> > http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/150855801/direct/01/
>
>
>
>
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