--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, Greg Esposito <gregespo73@...> wrote:
>
> Yes to the front arch-definitely (look out for terrawagens 16" arch moulds). The rear arm lip will depend on the exact brand of tyre and offset of your rims. If you have an offset around 30et and use 8-10mm spacers and longer studs you will probably be right. Greg E
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Bruce Morphett <bruce.morphett@...>
> To: "Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com" <Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, 17 September 2013 10:34 PM
> Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Syncro wheels technical.
>
> Â
>
> Greg,
> Yes, as far as I can tell minor at the trailing edge of the front arches & trimming of the lip of the rear trailing arms.
> I notice a couple of forum members have 30x9.5R15 (OD 744-750) on their syncros. I would be interested in their experiences.
> http://syncro.ca/tech/TireFitment.htm
>
>
> Cheers,
> Bruce
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Greg Esposito <gregespo73@...>
> To: "Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com" <Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, 17 September 2013 8:48 PM
> Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Syncro wheels technical.
>
> Â
> Bruce, you might have to add wheel arch mods to your list. Greg E
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Bruce Morphett <bruce.morphett@...>
> To: "Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com" <Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com>
> Cc: Peter Schweinsberg <peter@...>
> Sent: Tuesday, 17 September 2013 12:44 PM
> Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Syncro wheels technical.
>
> Â
> Hi everyone,
> I am rather bemused by all this discussion about wheel and tyre sizes and diameters. A lot of the comments show a fundamental misunderstanding of the basic principles, which lets face it are little more than upper primary school maths.
>
> I have a simple formula which gives results very close to most of the published figures of the tyre manufacturers.
> [(Section width in mm x aspect ratio %) x 2] + rim diameter in mm = total tyre diameter. Eg. the diameter of the 205/80x14 OE tyre on Australian syncros is 205 mm x 0.8 x 2 + 355.6 mm = 683.6 mm. I am planning to fit 225/75R16 Cooper AT3 tyres to my syncro. My calculation for this size is 743.9. Coopers figures are 746.5 for the AT3 & 750 for the ST Maxx. Bridgestone and Yokahama for example list 744, so there is some variation, particularly with AT and MT tyres due to tread depth. On my previous Syncro '97-'02 I ran 215/80R15 (725mm OD) Yokohama SD05 on 6x15 deep well rims on 14" centres with standard WBX without any problems.Â
>
> Most of the original tyre sizes listed for the Syncro are far too small in my opinion. Most of the medium sized SUV's these days and many cars run larger sizes. The Syncro is built to go offroad so the bigger the better. There is no way I would run smaller than say 700-720 OD. A standard OE size for 4WD utes for many years has been 205R16 (OD 732-736). A good option and a huge range available.
>
> Load and speed ratings though should equal or exceed the minimums.
>
> A Subi EJ25 and revised gearing will be combined with my tyres. More about that later.
>
> I have views on rolling circumference too. Maybe one for another time.
>
> My two bobs worth.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Bruce.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Scott Daniel <ScottDaniel@...>
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> Cc: Peter Schweinsberg <peter@...>
> Sent: Tuesday, 17 September 2013 4:47 AM
> Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Syncro wheels technical.
>
> Â
> two 14 inch sizes are stock,
> 185 R 14 C
> 205/70 R 14 .
> additionally..each is specified as C load rating front, D load rating rear, which affects the rolling specs some.
> There is also a 205/70 R 14Â 97R Reinforced tire listed on the stock tire ( I mean tyre )Â sticker on a syncro.
>
> that's 5 variations in the specs you seek right there, depending onhow accurate you want to be.
> Perhaps an average is what would work for you.Â
>
>
>
> On 9/16/2013 12:30 AM, Peter Schweinsberg wrote:
>
> Â
> >Dear All,
> >
> >Does anyone have the:
> >
> >rolling radius,
> >rolling diameter,
> >rolling circumference
> >
> >of the original stock Syncro 14" wheels with the
> correct tyres fitted ?
> >
> >Peter
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >,
> >
>
On 18/09/2013, at 11:49 AM, Bruce Morphett <bruce.morphett@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
Thanks everyone for all the feedback.I have a set of Tiguan wheels (16x6.5 ET33) to go with the tyres.My Syncro is still with AM Auto in Noosaville, waiting for the GB & diff to come back from Ron Schmidt.Will be a month minimum before I have it back here in Adelaide & get it through local approvals with the original wheels.Will let you know how it goes.By the way with the laws on oversized tyres (maximum 15mm diameter increase for cars & 50mm for 4WD vehicles), do we go by the Syncro 16" 205R16 largest size in the book or the 14" 205R14 OE size? Also, for this purpose is the Syncro classified as a 4WD or AWD (which I think don't qualify for the 50mm). Any ideas?Bruce.
From: eddie <bergodaz@ozemail.com.au>
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, 18 September 2013 8:25 AM
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Syncro wheels technical.
With 30" tyres add a bit of angle grinding and panel beating up front. Again depends on offset. Eddie
--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, Greg Esposito <gregespo73@...> wrote:
>
> Yes to the front arch-definitely (look out for terrawagens 16" arch moulds). The rear arm lip will depend on the exact brand of tyre and offset of your rims. If you have an offset around 30et and use 8-10mm spacers and longer studs you will probably be right. Greg E
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Bruce Morphett <bruce.morphett@...>
> To: "Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com" <Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, 17 September 2013 10:34 PM
> Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Syncro wheels technical.
>
> Â
>
> Greg,
> Yes, as far as I can tell minor at the trailing edge of the front arches & trimming of the lip of the rear trailing arms.
> I notice a couple of forum members have 30x9.5R15 (OD 744-750) on their syncros. I would be interested in their experiences.
> http://syncro.ca/tech/TireFitment.htm
>
>
> Cheers,
> Bruce
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Greg Esposito <gregespo73@...>
> To: "Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com" <Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, 17 September 2013 8:48 PM
> Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Syncro wheels technical.
>
> Â
> Bruce, you might have to add wheel arch mods to your list. Greg E
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Bruce Morphett <bruce.morphett@...>
> To: "Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com" <Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com>
> Cc: Peter Schweinsberg <peter@...>
> Sent: Tuesday, 17 September 2013 12:44 PM
> Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Syncro wheels technical.
>
> Â
> Hi everyone,
> I am rather bemused by all this discussion about wheel and tyre sizes and diameters. A lot of the comments show a fundamental misunderstanding of the basic principles, which lets face it are little more than upper primary school maths.
>
> I have a simple formula which gives results very close to most of the published figures of the tyre manufacturers.
> [(Section width in mm x aspect ratio %) x 2] + rim diameter in mm = total tyre diameter. Eg. the diameter of the 205/80x14 OE tyre on Australian syncros is 205 mm x 0.8 x 2 + 355.6 mm = 683.6 mm. I am planning to fit 225/75R16 Cooper AT3 tyres to my syncro. My calculation for this size is 743.9. Coopers figures are 746.5 for the AT3 & 750 for the ST Maxx. Bridgestone and Yokahama for example list 744, so there is some variation, particularly with AT and MT tyres due to tread depth. On my previous Syncro '97-'02 I ran 215/80R15 (725mm OD) Yokohama SD05 on 6x15 deep well rims on 14" centres with standard WBX without any problems.Â
>
> Most of the original tyre sizes listed for the Syncro are far too small in my opinion. Most of the medium sized SUV's these days and many cars run larger sizes. The Syncro is built to go offroad so the bigger the better. There is no way I would run smaller than say 700-720 OD. A standard OE size for 4WD utes for many years has been 205R16 (OD 732-736). A good option and a huge range available.
>
> Load and speed ratings though should equal or exceed the minimums.
>
> A Subi EJ25 and revised gearing will be combined with my tyres. More about that later.
>
> I have views on rolling circumference too. Maybe one for another time.
>
> My two bobs worth.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Bruce.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Scott Daniel <ScottDaniel@...>
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> Cc: Peter Schweinsberg <peter@...>
> Sent: Tuesday, 17 September 2013 4:47 AM
> Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Syncro wheels technical.
>
> Â
> two 14 inch sizes are stock,
> 185 R 14 C
> 205/70 R 14 .
> additionally..each is specified as C load rating front, D load rating rear, which affects the rolling specs some.
> There is also a 205/70 R 14Â 97R Reinforced tire listed on the stock tire ( I mean tyre )Â sticker on a syncro.
>
> that's 5 variations in the specs you seek right there, depending onhow accurate you want to be.
> Perhaps an average is what would work for you.Â
>
>
>
> On 9/16/2013 12:30 AM, Peter Schweinsberg wrote:
>
> Â
> >Dear All,
> >
> >Does anyone have the:
> >
> >rolling radius,
> >rolling diameter,
> >rolling circumference
> >
> >of the original stock Syncro 14" wheels with the
> correct tyres fitted ?
> >
> >Peter
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >,
> >
>
By the way with the laws on oversized tyres (maximum 15mm diameter increase for cars & 50mm for 4WD vehicles), do we go by the Syncro 16" 205R16 largest size in the book or the 14" 205R14 OE size? Also, for this purpose is the Syncro classified as a 4WD or AWD (which I think don't qualify for the 50mm). Any ideas?
Bruce.
This is a bit clouded but the general regulations allow a percentage increment on the largest OEM option that was available for any particular vehicle. The 16” Syncro was not a separate model; it was an option on the basic 14” Syncro. It was a very extensive option but I doubt if any regulating authority would know that, so, as far as they are concerned, 16” wheels were an option and the regulations allow for 10% above that. (I am a couple of years out of touch with the wording of the regulations.) The designation of 4WD or AWD is not relevant.
Les
I can't get the site on my "smart" phone for the last 3 days . Anyone else having problems & anyone with tips?Eddie.
---In syncro_t3_australia@yahoogroups.com, <leslieharris@...> wrote:
By the way with the laws on oversized tyres (maximum 15mm diameter increase for cars & 50mm for 4WD vehicles), do we go by the Syncro 16" 205R16 largest size in the book or the 14" 205R14 OE size? Also, for this purpose is the Syncro classified as a 4WD or AWD (which I think don't qualify for the 50mm). Any ideas?
Bruce.
This is a bit clouded but the general regulations allow a percentage increment on the largest OEM option that was available for any particular vehicle. The 16” Syncro was not a separate model; it was an option on the basic 14” Syncro. It was a very extensive option but I doubt if any regulating authority would know that, so, as far as they are concerned, 16” wheels were an option and the regulations allow for 10% above that. (I am a couple of years out of touch with the wording of the regulations.) The designation of 4WD or AWD is not relevant.
Les
Eddie,
Recent sweeping (and unannounced) changes by Yahoo have caused widespread problems with access. This is the probable reason.
Les
From:
Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of bergodaz@ozemail.com.au
Sent: 29 September 2013 10:22
To:
Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] RE:
Where has the site gone?
I can't get the site on my "smart" phone for the last 3 days. Anyone else having problems & anyone with tips?
Eddie.
Long time member Stuart (in Melbourne ) is selling his camper Syncro.
His number is 0419 899 886
I don’t have any details but I know the vehicle and it has been well looked after.
Les