Accelerator cable ... yippee!

All,

For all those totally confused about what is the correct accelerator cable in Australia for a RHD T3 WBX 2.1 motor, both 2WD and 4WD variants.

I have just today finished installing a new accelerator cable, purchased from Just Kampers in Oz. Their part reference no. is J10232 and it cost $AU23.05 plus shipping.

It's a GEMO brand and it's a perfect fit. The newly fitted cable has made an enormous improvement, seems whoever installed the last one botched it up, hence the ongoing stiff/graty pedal feel ever since I bought the syncro in 2006.

Now trying to make sense of Just Kamper descriptions of their T25 accelerator cables, (remember, this is Australia guys), one could never know with any certainty which is the correct cable for us in Oz.

Turns out this J10232 cable we all need is quaintly described in the following way: 

"Cable length 3700mmFits 1900cc 60bhp models. Will not fit automatics
T25 accelerator cable fits all right hand drive 1900cc 60 BHP watercooled vans from August 1982 to November 1990."

So where's the webmaster for OZ Just Kampers? Out to lunch ... permanently? Why should all we OZ veedub customers be involved in these guessing games?
For me the only clue was the 3700mm length. Probably for many, that's NO clue at all!

I'm surprised they sell anything in OZ if this is representative of their parts descriptions. They also don't reply to email enquiries. Phone call enquiries leave a lot to be desired. Basically you're on your own then. What a shame and what a sham. 

Given this site is in Australia and so geared for OZ veedubb sales, some months ago I attempted to get them to modify the above description to include an addendum reference to T3 RHD 2.1 WBX motors to 1992, just so we all know. They did and it lasted all of a few weeks before being expunged, why I have absolutely no idea and too afraid to ask again.

So in spite of Just Kampers efforts to totally obfuscate OZ veedubbers, I've managed to buy the correct cable. I commend this model cable to you. Just ignore their description.

Concerning the cable fitment, I concluded that it is quite impossible to complete its full and proper installation with the motor in place, in particular regarding the cables rubber boot at the motor end. The free end of this boot is supposed to fit over its adjacent plastic fitting so as to form a cable end seal. However, if fitted first, the rubber boot will not pass through the provided hole in the steel cable fixing bracket. Alternatively if attempting to fit the boot last, there is no room to get your pinkies at it to fit the free end of the boot onto the same adjacent plastic fitting, without puncturing the boot in the process I mean. So I suspect no one has the rubber boot fully fitted correctly. Unless of course one first removes the cable fixing bracket to the workbench and enlarges the provided cable hole, followed by the "interesting" task of re-installing the bracket and its fixing bolt. Not for the faint of heart. Which I did do. Shite of a job!

Still, am loving the new-found functionality of my new accelerator cable! Look out the standing quarter mile record for a 2.5 tonne Trakka!!

Cheers.

Ken   

The cable to suit our MV engines is listed on the 2WD ETKA.
2WD and syncro use the same cable.



> Ken Garratt <unclekenz@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> All,
> For all those totally confused about what is the correct accelerator
> cable in Australia for a RHD T3 WBX 2.1 motor, both 2WD and 4WD
> variants.
> I have just today finished installing a new accelerator cable, purchased
> from Just Kampers in Oz. Their part reference no. is J10232 and it cost
> $AU23.05 plus shipping.Goto:
> http://www.justkampersaustralia.com/shop/accelerator-cable-right-hand-dri
> ve-j10232.html
> It's a GEMO brand and it's a perfect fit. The newly fitted cable has
> made an enormous improvement, seems whoever installed the last one
> botched it up, hence the ongoing stiff/graty pedal feel ever since I
> bought the syncro in 2006.
> Now trying to make sense of Just Kamper descriptions of their T25
> accelerator cables, (remember, this is Australia guys), one could never
> know with any certainty which is the correct cable for us in Oz.
> Turns out this J10232 cable we all need is quaintly described in the
> following way:
> "Cable length 3700mmFits 1900cc 60bhp models. Will not fit automaticsT25
> accelerator cable fits all right hand drive 1900cc 60 BHP watercooled
> vans from August 1982 to November 1990."
> So where's the webmaster for OZ Just Kampers? Out to lunch ...
> permanently? Why should all we OZ veedub customers be involved in these
> guessing games?For me the only clue was the 3700mm length. Probably for
> many, that's NO clue at all!
> I'm surprised they sell anything in OZ if this is representative of
> their parts descriptions. They also don't reply to email enquiries.
> Phone call enquiries leave a lot to be desired. Basically you're on your
> own then. What a shame and what a sham.
> Given this site is in Australia and so geared for OZ veedubb sales, some
> months ago I attempted to get them to modify the above description to
> include an addendum reference to T3 RHD 2.1 WBX motors to 1992, just so
> we all know. They did and it lasted all of a few weeks before being
> expunged, why I have absolutely no idea and too afraid to ask again.
> So in spite of Just Kampers efforts to totally obfuscate OZ veedubbers,
> I've managed to buy the correct cable. I commend this model cable to
> you. Just ignore their description.
> Concerning the cable fitment, I concluded that it is quite impossible to
> complete its full and proper installation with the motor in place, in
> particular regarding the cables rubber boot at the motor end. The free
> end of this boot is supposed to fit over its adjacent plastic fitting so
> as to form a cable end seal. However, if fitted first, the rubber boot
> will not pass through the provided hole in the steel cable fixing
> bracket. Alternatively if attempting to fit the boot last, there is no
> room to get your pinkies at it to fit the free end of the boot onto the
> same adjacent plastic fitting, without puncturing the boot in the
> process I mean. So I suspect no one has the rubber boot fully fitted
> correctly. Unless of course one first removes the cable fixing bracket
> to the workbench and enlarges the provided cable hole, followed by the
> "interesting" task of re-installing the bracket and its fixing bolt. Not
> for the faint of heart. Which I did do. Shite of a job!
> Still, am loving the new-found functionality of my new accelerator
> cable! Look out the standing quarter mile record for a 2.5 tonne
> Trakka!!
> Cheers.
> Ken
>
Phill,
re: "The cable to suit our MV engines is listed on the 2WD ETKA"
I know. Been there, done that. No help though to those who do not have ETKA access nor even if they do, relating that VAG part no to JK's part no. and/or its description. Farcical.

re: "2WD and syncro use the same cable."
I believe I said essentially that in my posted first sentence.

Ken


To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
From: plander@optusnet.com.au
Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2011 19:39:50 +1100
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Accelerator cable ... yippee!

 
The cable to suit our MV engines is listed on the 2WD ETKA.
2WD and syncro use the same cable.

> Ken Garratt <unclekenz@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> All,
> For all those totally confused about what is the correct accelerator
> cable in Australia for a RHD T3 WBX 2.1 motor, both 2WD and 4WD
> variants.
> I have just today finished installing a new accelerator cable, purchased
> from Just Kampers in Oz. Their part reference no. is J10232 and it cost
> $AU23.05 plus shipping.Goto:
> http://www.justkampersaustralia.com/shop/accelerator-cable-right-hand-dri
> ve-j10232.html
> It's a GEMO brand and it's a perfect fit. The newly fitted cable has
> made an enormous improvement, seems whoever installed the last one
> botched it up, hence the ongoing stiff/graty pedal feel ever since I
> bought the syncro in 2006.
> Now trying to make sense of Just Kamper descriptions of their T25
> accelerator cables, (remember, this is Australia guys), one could never
> know with any certainty which is the correct cable for us in Oz.
> Turns out this J10232 cable we all need is quaintly described in the
> following way:
> "Cable length 3700mmFits 1900cc 60bhp models. Will not fit automaticsT25
> accelerator cable fits all right hand drive 1900cc 60 BHP watercooled
> vans from August 1982 to November 1990."
> So where's the webmaster for OZ Just Kampers? Out to lunch ...
> permanently? Why should all we OZ veedub customers be involved in these
> guessing games?For me the only clue was the 3700mm length. Probably for
> many, that's NO clue at all!
> I'm surprised they sell anything in OZ if this is representative of
> their parts descriptions. They also don't reply to email enquiries.
> Phone call enquiries leave a lot to be desired. Basically you're on your
> own then. What a shame and what a sham.
> Given this site is in Australia and so geared for OZ veedubb sales, some
> months ago I attempted to get them to modify the above description to
> include an addendum reference to T3 RHD 2.1 WBX motors to 1992, just so
> we all know. They did and it lasted all of a few weeks before being
> expunged, why I have absolutely no idea and too afraid to ask again.
> So in spite of Just Kampers efforts to totally obfuscate OZ veedubbers,
> I've managed to buy the correct cable. I commend this model cable to
> you. Just ignore their description.
> Concerning the cable fitment, I concluded that it is quite impossible to
> complete its full and proper installation with the motor in place, in
> particular regarding the cables rubber boot at the motor end. The free
> end of this boot is supposed to fit over its adjacent plastic fitting so
> as to form a cable end seal. However, if fitted first, the rubber boot
> will not pass through the provided hole in the steel cable fixing
> bracket. Alternatively if attempting to fit the boot last, there is no
> room to get your pinkies at it to fit the free end of the boot onto the
> same adjacent plastic fitting, without puncturing the boot in the
> process I mean. So I suspect no one has the rubber boot fully fitted
> correctly. Unless of course one first removes the cable fixing bracket
> to the workbench and enlarges the provided cable hole, followed by the
> "interesting" task of re-installing the bracket and its fixing bolt. Not
> for the faint of heart. Which I did do. Shite of a job!
> Still, am loving the new-found functionality of my new accelerator
> cable! Look out the standing quarter mile record for a 2.5 tonne
> Trakka!!
> Cheers.
> Ken
>