Airbags.

1
I've had an enquiry about my van (for sale) from a New Zealander. He
has been told a drivers airbag is required for compliance in NZ. I'm
not aware of airbags ever being available on T3's, especially in
Australia. Can any-one shed any light on this? I can't see how they
could make it a retrospective requirement if they were never available,
so maybe he's been given wrong information.

Brian Reed
1990 Syncro (for sale)
2007 Trakkadu 4 Motion.
2
Brian,
 
Very few such rules are made retrospective anywhere in the world.  An enquiry to the local NZ transport administration should sort that out in one phone call.
 
Les
 
----- Original Message -----
From: bdrinoz
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 9:14 PM
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Airbags.

I've had an enquiry about my van (for sale) from a New Zealander. He
has been told a drivers airbag is required for compliance in NZ. I'm
not aware of airbags ever being available on T3's, especially in
Australia. Can any-one shed any light on this? I can't see how they
could make it a retrospective requirement if they were never available,
so maybe he's been given wrong information.

Brian Reed
1990 Syncro (for sale)
2007 Trakkadu 4 Motion.

3
Message

Brian/Les

This is a copy of the responce I got from our compliance people over here, I have forwarded your comments on to him.

 

Hello Ralph,

We don’t have the details of the vehicle you are intending to import from Australia . I will have to request this from Germany .

However with the pictures you have sent through I would say that it should comply. Just confirm that it has an air bag on the drivers side.

The compliance ticket costs $750.38 inclusive. If you need a SOC I can forward the application form to you. This process can take up to 14 working days to get.

I trust this info will help. 

Regards

Mike Nieuwoudt

European Motor Distributors Ltd

Service Operations

Volkswagen & Skoda

64-9- 360 2911

64-9- 920 6461

mailto:mnieuwoudt@volkswagen.co.nz

 

 

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4
Ralph,
 
I am replying direct, copy to Brian.
 
Les
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 4:17 PM
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re:Airbags.

Brian/Les

This is a copy of the responce I got from our compliance people over here, I have forwarded your comments on to him.

 

Hello Ralph,

We don’t have the details of the vehicle you are intending to import from Australia . I will have to request this from Germany .

However with the pictures you have sent through I would say that it should comply. Just confirm that it has an air bag on the drivers side.

The compliance ticket costs $750.38 inclusive. If you need a SOC I can forward the application form to you. This process can take up to 14 working days to get.

I trust this info will help. 

Regards

Mike Nieuwoudt

European Motor Distributors Ltd

Service Operations

Volkswagen & Skoda

64-9- 360 2911

64-9- 920 6461

mailto:mnieuwoudt@ volkswagen. co.nz

 

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5
Looks like Mike Nieuwoudt is a halfwit.

Doesn't know his job very well.





> Ralph Roden <rrmoss@xtra.co.nz> wrote:
>
> Brian/Les
>
> This is a copy of the responce I got from our compliance people over
> here, I have forwarded your comments on to him.
>
>
>
> Hello Ralph,
>
> We don�t have the details of the vehicle you are intending to import
> from Australia. I will have to request this from Germany.
>
> However with the pictures you have sent through I would say that it
> should comply. Just confirm that it has an air bag on the drivers side.
>
> The compliance ticket costs $750.38 inclusive. If you need a SOC I can
> forward the application form to you. This process can take up to 14
> working days to get.
>
> I trust this info will help.
>
> Regards
>
> Mike Nieuwoudt
>
> European Motor Distributors Ltd
>
> Service Operations
>
> Volkswagen & Skoda
>
> 64-9- 360 2911
>
> 64-9- 920 6461
>
> HYPERLINK
> "mailto:mnieuwoudt@volkswagen.co.nz"mailto:mnieuwoudt@volkswagen.co.nz
>
>
>
>
>
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6
Phill,
 
Do you know if the Syncro ever was imported to NZ?  We do have another NZ member and I will contact him to see where his came from.  Mr Nieuwoldt is a dealer, so I don't know where he comes into the equation.  I am currently checking the NZ compliance requirements.
 
Les
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 4:39 PM
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re:Airbags.

Looks like Mike Nieuwoudt is a halfwit.

Doesn't know his job very well.





> Ralph Roden <rrmoss@xtra.co.nz> wrote:
>
> Brian/Les
>
> This is a copy of the responce I got from our compliance people over
> here, I have forwarded your comments on to him.
>
> 
>
> Hello Ralph,
>
> We don't have the details of the vehicle you are intending to import
> from Australia. I will have to request this from Germany.
>
> However with the pictures you have sent through I would say that it
> should comply. Just confirm that it has an air bag on the drivers side.
>
> The compliance ticket costs $750.38 inclusive. If you need a SOC I can
> forward the application form to you. This process can take up to 14
> working days to get.
>
> I trust this info will help.
>
> Regards
>
> Mike Nieuwoudt
>
> European Motor Distributors Ltd
>
> Service Operations
>
> Volkswagen & Skoda
>
> 64-9- 360 2911
>
> 64-9- 920 6461
>
> HYPERLINK
> "mailto:mnieuwoudt@volkswagen.co.nz"mailto:mnieuwoudt@volkswagen.co.nz
>
> 
>
> 
>
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I'm sure they did as I have heard of a few there.
Is he a dealer, or at the import agents?



> Les Harris <leslieharris@optushome.com.au> wrote:
>
> Phill,
>
> Do you know if the Syncro ever was imported to NZ? We do have another
> NZ member and I will contact him to see where his came from. Mr
> Nieuwoldt is a dealer, so I don't know where he comes into the equation.
> I am currently checking the NZ compliance requirements.
>
> Les
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: plander@optusnet.com.au
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 4:39 PM
> Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re:Airbags.
>
>
> Looks like Mike Nieuwoudt is a halfwit.
>
> Doesn't know his job very well.
>
>
>
>
>
> > Ralph Roden <rrmoss@xtra.co.nz> wrote:
> >
> > Brian/Les
> >
> > This is a copy of the responce I got from our compliance people over
> > here, I have forwarded your comments on to him.
> >
> >
> >
> > Hello Ralph,
> >
> > We don't have the details of the vehicle you are intending to import
> > from Australia. I will have to request this from Germany.
> >
> > However with the pictures you have sent through I would say that it
> > should comply. Just confirm that it has an air bag on the drivers
> side.
> >
> > The compliance ticket costs $750.38 inclusive. If you need a SOC I
> can
> > forward the application form to you. This process can take up to 14
> > working days to get.
> >
> > I trust this info will help.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Mike Nieuwoudt
> >
> > European Motor Distributors Ltd
> >
> > Service Operations
> >
> > Volkswagen & Skoda
> >
> > 64-9- 360 2911
> >
> > 64-9- 920 6461
> >
> > HYPERLINK
> >
> "mailto:mnieuwoudt@volkswagen.co.nz"mailto:mnieuwoudt@volkswagen.co.nz
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Phill,
 
This appears to be a dealer.  In Australia, no dealer has the power to approve compliance and I would be truly amazed if a dealer could do this in New Zealand.  It can only be done through an engineer registered with the government (DOTARS); I am registered for this purpose. 
 
I have located the relevant New Zealand compliance legislation and I am reading through it now.
 
Les
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 4:56 PM
Subject: Re: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re:Airbags.

I'm sure they did as I have heard of a few there.
Is he a dealer, or at the import agents?

> Les Harris <leslieharris@ optushome. com.au> wrote:
>
> Phill,
>
> Do you know if the Syncro ever was imported to NZ? We do have another
> NZ member and I will contact him to see where his came from. Mr
> Nieuwoldt is a dealer, so I don't know where he comes into the equation.
> I am currently checking the NZ compliance requirements.
>
> Les
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: plander@optusnet. com.au
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 4:39 PM
> Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australi a] Re:Airbags.
>
>
> Looks like Mike Nieuwoudt is a halfwit.
>
> Doesn't know his job very well.
>
>
>
>
>
> > Ralph Roden <rrmoss@xtra. co.nz> wrote:
> >
> > Brian/Les
> >
> > This is a copy of the responce I got from our compliance people over
> > here, I have forwarded your comments on to him.
> >
> >
> >
> > Hello Ralph,
> >
> > We don't have the details of the vehicle you are intending to import
> > from Australia. I will have to request this from Germany.
> >
> > However with the pictures you have sent through I would say that it
> > should comply. Just confirm that it has an air bag on the drivers
> side.
> >
> > The compliance ticket costs $750.38 inclusive. If you need a SOC I
> can
> > forward the application form to you. This process can take up to 14
> > working days to get.
> >
> > I trust this info will help.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Mike Nieuwoudt
> >
> > European Motor Distributors Ltd
> >
> > Service Operations
> >
> > Volkswagen & Skoda
> >
> > 64-9- 360 2911
> >
> > 64-9- 920 6461
> >
> > HYPERLINK
> >
> "mailto:mnieuwoudt@volkswag en.co.nz"mailto:mnieuwoudt@volkswag en.co.nz
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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9
Les et al

In NZ the import / distribution situation is not unlike when our
Syncros were sold in Oz - ie, under the auspices of a private
independent company, not Volkswagen AG or subsidiary thereof.

That distributor in NZ is the company in question here, and would be
responsible for compliance and maintaining the "compliance folder" for
inspection by the relevant authorities. More can be discerned about
this company below:



http://www.vwasia.com/publish/vwasia/new_zealand/en/company/corporate_information.html

European Motor Distributors Ltd (EMD) is a fully owned subsidiary of
Giltrap Group Holdings Limited, and was established in 1977. EMD holds
the distribution rights for New Zealand for Volkswagen, Audi, Porsche
and Skoda. EMD's vision is to become the "Benchmark Automotive
Distributor in New Zealand".

Contact Details:
European Motor Distributors Ltd
1 Nixon Street
Grey Lynn Auckland
PO Box 959
Auckland

Phone +64 (9) 360 2911
Fax +64 (9) 920 6461

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Les Harris"
<leslieharris@...> wrote:
>
> Phill,
>
> This appears to be a dealer. In Australia, no dealer has the power
to approve compliance and I would be truly amazed if a dealer could do
this in New Zealand. It can only be done through an engineer
registered with the government (DOTARS); I am registered for this
purpose.
>
> I have located the relevant New Zealand compliance legislation and I
am reading through it now.
>
> Les
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: plander@...
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 4:56 PM
> Subject: Re: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re:Airbags.
>
>
> I'm sure they did as I have heard of a few there.
> Is he a dealer, or at the import agents?
>
> > Les Harris <leslieharris@...> wrote:
> >
> > Phill,
> >
> > Do you know if the Syncro ever was imported to NZ? We do have
another
> > NZ member and I will contact him to see where his came from. Mr
> > Nieuwoldt is a dealer, so I don't know where he comes into the
equation.
> > I am currently checking the NZ compliance requirements.
> >
> > Les
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: plander@...
> > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 4:39 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re:Airbags.
> >
> >
> > Looks like Mike Nieuwoudt is a halfwit.
> >
> > Doesn't know his job very well.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > Ralph Roden <rrmoss@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > Brian/Les
> > >
> > > This is a copy of the responce I got from our compliance
people over
> > > here, I have forwarded your comments on to him.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hello Ralph,
> > >
> > > We don't have the details of the vehicle you are intending to
import
> > > from Australia. I will have to request this from Germany.
> > >
> > > However with the pictures you have sent through I would say
that it
> > > should comply. Just confirm that it has an air bag on the drivers
> > side.
> > >
> > > The compliance ticket costs $750.38 inclusive. If you need a
SOC I
> > can
> > > forward the application form to you. This process can take up
to 14
> > > working days to get.
> > >
> > > I trust this info will help.
> > >
> > > Regards
> > >
> > > Mike Nieuwoudt
> > >
> > > European Motor Distributors Ltd
> > >
> > > Service Operations
> > >
> > > Volkswagen & Skoda
> > >
> > > 64-9- 360 2911
> > >
> > > 64-9- 920 6461
> > >
> > > HYPERLINK
> > >
> > "mailto:mnieuwoudt@..."mailto:mnieuwoudt@...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> >
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>
10
Mark,
 
The importing agent, in Australia (and other countries), is indeed responsible for furnishing the necessary details required to obtain compliance in Australia (and probably in NZ).   I am in the process of reading the NZ legislation at the moment to establish the requirements.   (I am also in the process of doing this at the moment on behalf of an Australian company which wants to import and retail a production vehicle from overseas.)
 
The key point is that Ralph Roden, who is in NZ and looking at buying Brian Reed's (now surplus to requirements) T3 Syncro, needs to get compliance acceptance from the NZ Ministry of Transport.  As far as I have read the NZ Ministry of Transport requirements, there is no indication that a dealer has any power of determination in respect of such compliance.  Unless there is a substantial difference between the Australian and NZ requirements, evidence of which I have not found so far, I expect that it will come down to a reciprocal acceptance of standards between Australia and New Zealand.
 
In Australia, holding distribution rights is not regarded as having the  final say-so on acceptance / compliance and I doubt if it will be any different in NZ.  The issue of the compliance plate is a government function both here and NZ - I have got that far in reading the NZ legislation.
 
Les
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: markkofahl
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 6:19 PM
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re:Airbags.

Les et al

In NZ the import / distribution situation is not unlike when our
Syncros were sold in Oz - ie, under the auspices of a private
independent company, not Volkswagen AG or subsidiary thereof.

That distributor in NZ is the company in question here, and would be
responsible for compliance and maintaining the "compliance folder" for
inspection by the relevant authorities. More can be discerned about
this company below:

http://www.vwasia. com/publish/ vwasia/new_ zealand/en/ company/corporat e_information. html

European Motor Distributors Ltd (EMD) is a fully owned subsidiary of
Giltrap Group Holdings Limited, and was established in 1977. EMD holds
the distribution rights for New Zealand for Volkswagen, Audi, Porsche
and Skoda. EMD's vision is to become the "Benchmark Automotive
Distributor in New Zealand".

Contact Details:
European Motor Distributors Ltd
1 Nixon Street
Grey Lynn Auckland
PO Box 959
Auckland

Phone +64 (9) 360 2911
Fax +64 (9) 920 6461

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com, "Les Harris"
<leslieharris@ ...> wrote:
>
> Phill,
>
> This appears to be a dealer. In Australia, no dealer has the power
to approve compliance and I would be truly amazed if a dealer could do
this in New Zealand. It can only be done through an engineer
registered with the government (DOTARS); I am registered for this
purpose.
>
> I have located the relevant New Zealand compliance legislation and I
am reading through it now.
>
> Les
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: plander@...
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 4:56 PM
> Subject: Re: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australi a] Re:Airbags.
>
>
> I'm sure they did as I have heard of a few there.
> Is he a dealer, or at the import agents?
>
> > Les Harris <leslieharris@ ...> wrote:
> >
> > Phill,
> >
> > Do you know if the Syncro ever was imported to NZ? We do have
another
> > NZ member and I will contact him to see where his came from. Mr
> > Nieuwoldt is a dealer, so I don't know where he comes into the
equation.
> > I am currently checking the NZ compliance requirements.
> >
> > Les
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: plander@...
> > To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 4:39 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australi a] Re:Airbags.
> >
> >
> > Looks like Mike Nieuwoudt is a halfwit.
> >
> > Doesn't know his job very well.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > Ralph Roden <rrmoss@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > Brian/Les
> > >
> > > This is a copy of the responce I got from our compliance
people over
> > > here, I have forwarded your comments on to him.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hello Ralph,
> > >
> > > We don't have the details of the vehicle you are intending to
import
> > > from Australia. I will have to request this from Germany.
> > >
> > > However with the pictures you have sent through I would say
that it
> > > should comply. Just confirm that it has an air bag on the drivers
> > side.
> > >
> > > The compliance ticket costs $750.38 inclusive. If you need a
SOC I
> > can
> > > forward the application form to you. This process can take up
to 14
> > > working days to get.
> > >
> > > I trust this info will help.
> > >
> > > Regards
> > >
> > > Mike Nieuwoudt
> > >
> > > European Motor Distributors Ltd
> > >
> > > Service Operations
> > >
> > > Volkswagen & Skoda
> > >
> > > 64-9- 360 2911
> > >
> > > 64-9- 920 6461
> > >
> > > HYPERLINK
> > >
> > "mailto:mnieuwoudt@ ..."mailto: mnieuwoudt@ ...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
>

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Les,
 
This is the link that I got Mike Nieuwoudt's contact from, Land Transport NZ.
 
 
 
This may be of some interest?
 
Ralph

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