Another changing from non-locking petrol to locking disel question

1
Hi All,

I have now been asked to check with you guys (the syncro experts) by my mechanic before he continues!

Apologies for my lack of understanding of the insides of gearboxes etc.

As follows.

I am changing my non-locking petrol transmission to a diesel locking transmission - same final drives. Do I simply need to change over the bell-housing?

The mechanic has noticed that the spigot shaft on the diesel box appear 10mm shorter - is this an issue or can this be ignored? He said it seems this can be ignored, there should still be enough room for the flywheel, but said to check with you guys.

So... is it as simple as changing the bell-housing, as I believed, or is there more complexity in changing the transmission than I understood?? Does the spigot shaft need to be taken from the old gearbox, and tips on doing this?

Apologies if I lost anything in translation here. And thanks to this group for all your help, you guys are great.

Sam
2
Sam,
Assuming you are keeping your petrol Wasserboxer, you should ask your mechanic to switch the input shaft to the longer version. The diesel bellhousing brings the engine closer to the transaxle which is why the shaft needs to be shorter IIRC.
How certain are you that the final drives (crown & pinion?) are the same? It would be disastrous to the rest of your drivetrain if they are not.
BenT

On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 11:51 PM, heysamuelarnold <me@samarnold.org> wrote:
Hi All,

I have now been asked to check with you guys (the syncro experts) by my mechanic before he continues!

Apologies for my lack of understanding of the insides of gearboxes etc.

As follows.

I am changing my non-locking petrol transmission to a diesel locking transmission - same final drives. Do I simply need to change over the bell-housing?

The mechanic has noticed that the spigot shaft on the diesel box appear 10mm shorter - is this an issue or can this be ignored? He said it seems this can be ignored, there should still be enough room for the flywheel, but said to check with you guys.

So... is it as simple as changing the bell-housing, as I believed, or is there more complexity in changing the transmission than I understood?? Does the spigot shaft need to be taken from the old gearbox, and tips on doing this?

Apologies if I lost anything in translation here. And thanks to this group for all your help, you guys are great.

Sam
3
Sorry, I meant to direct you to a site which might help you see the differences. This fellow is changing engines but the concept is similar although a bit backwards. Sort of like Oz and my part of the world.;-)
BenT
On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 12:10 AM, BenT Syncro <syncro@gmail.com> wrote:
Sam,
Assuming you are keeping your petrol Wasserboxer, you should ask your mechanic to switch the input shaft to the longer version. The diesel bellhousing brings the engine closer to the transaxle which is why the shaft needs to be shorter IIRC.
How certain are you that the final drives (crown & pinion?) are the same? It would be disastrous to the rest of your drivetrain if they are not.
BenT
4
the  diesel input shaft ( what you call spigot shaft) is shorter than the one on a gasoline waterboxer gearbox.  You need to put the longer waterboxer gasoline input shaft where the shorter diesel one was. .
 
I'm  thinking 'diesel syncro transmission' .
You'll to take the diesel BH off, and put on the waterboxer bell housing ..
you would also have to swap over the two input shafts..
remove both, put the longer waterboxer input shaft onto the diesel transmission.
 
the way you change that part  ( input shaft ) is to undo a circlip several inches down the input shaft..
open that clip, slide it back ...then slide back the 'collar' there. Once it's slid back far enough to expose where two shafts meed each other ( with a threaded screw joining them ) unscrew the input shaft...counterclockwise, from the 'further in' partt of the input shaft. 
 if you need to, put the gearbox in any gear and hold the output flanges from turing if you have to, to hold the 'further in' part of the input  shaft from turning,   so you can unscrew the outer part.
  It's a pretty clever little junction. 
  Sometimes it's hard to get the collar to slide back enough ...there's a cut out in the ring gear carrier for clearance ....sometimee's there's barely enough room to slide that collar back enough.
 
I hope final drive ratios are the same ..and the same as the front dfiferential's ratio too.
 
hope that helps.
scott
turbovans
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 11:51 PM
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Another changing from non-locking petrol to locking disel question

 

Hi All,

I have now been asked to check with you guys (the syncro experts) by my mechanic before he continues!

Apologies for my lack of understanding of the insides of gearboxes etc.

As follows.

I am changing my non-locking petrol transmission to a diesel locking transmission - same final drives. Do I simply need to change over the bell-housing?

The mechanic has noticed that the spigot shaft on the diesel box appear 10mm shorter - is this an issue or can this be ignored? He said it seems this can be ignored, there should still be enough room for the flywheel, but said to check with you guys.

So... is it as simple as changing the bell-housing, as I believed, or is there more complexity in changing the transmission than I understood?? Does the spigot shaft need to be taken from the old gearbox, and tips on doing this?

Apologies if I lost anything in translation here. And thanks to this group for all your help, you guys are great.

Sam

5
Thank you thank you thank you BenT and Scott. Scott, thank you for those instructions, the mechanic was having some difficulty changing the input shaft, was able to get it out of the petrol box but not on the diesel, so hopefully those steps should make it clear for him.

Sam

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Daniel - Turbovans" <ScottDaniel@...> wrote:
>
> the diesel input shaft ( what you call spigot shaft) is shorter than the one on a gasoline waterboxer gearbox. You need to put the longer waterboxer gasoline input shaft where the shorter diesel one was. .
>
> I'm thinking 'diesel syncro transmission' .
> You'll to take the diesel BH off, and put on the waterboxer bell housing ..
> you would also have to swap over the two input shafts..
> remove both, put the longer waterboxer input shaft onto the diesel transmission.
>
> the way you change that part ( input shaft ) is to undo a circlip several inches down the input shaft..
> open that clip, slide it back ...then slide back the 'collar' there. Once it's slid back far enough to expose where two shafts meed each other ( with a threaded screw joining them ) unscrew the input shaft...counterclockwise, from the 'further in' partt of the input shaft.
> if you need to, put the gearbox in any gear and hold the output flanges from turing if you have to, to hold the 'further in' part of the input shaft from turning, so you can unscrew the outer part.
> It's a pretty clever little junction.
> Sometimes it's hard to get the collar to slide back enough ...there's a cut out in the ring gear carrier for clearance ....sometimee's there's barely enough room to slide that collar back enough.
>
> I hope final drive ratios are the same ..and the same as the front dfiferential's ratio too.
>
> hope that helps.
> scott
> turbovans
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: heysamuelarnold
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 11:51 PM
> Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Another changing from non-locking petrol to locking disel question
>
>
>
> Hi All,
>
> I have now been asked to check with you guys (the syncro experts) by my mechanic before he continues!
>
> Apologies for my lack of understanding of the insides of gearboxes etc.
>
> As follows.
>
> I am changing my non-locking petrol transmission to a diesel locking transmission - same final drives. Do I simply need to change over the bell-housing?
>
> The mechanic has noticed that the spigot shaft on the diesel box appear 10mm shorter - is this an issue or can this be ignored? He said it seems this can be ignored, there should still be enough room for the flywheel, but said to check with you guys.
>
> So... is it as simple as changing the bell-housing, as I believed, or is there more complexity in changing the transmission than I understood?? Does the spigot shaft need to be taken from the old gearbox, and tips on doing this?
>
> Apologies if I lost anything in translation here. And thanks to this group for all your help, you guys are great.
>
> Sam
>
6
Sam, your old box is a 6P, what is the new one?



> heysamuelarnold <me@samarnold.org> wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> I have now been asked to check with you guys (the syncro experts) by my
> mechanic before he continues!
>
> Apologies for my lack of understanding of the insides of gearboxes etc.
>
> As follows.
>
> I am changing my non-locking petrol transmission to a diesel locking
> transmission - same final drives. Do I simply need to change over the
> bell-housing?
>
> The mechanic has noticed that the spigot shaft on the diesel box appear
> 10mm shorter - is this an issue or can this be ignored? He said it
> seems this can be ignored, there should still be enough room for the
> flywheel, but said to check with you guys.
>
> So... is it as simple as changing the bell-housing, as I believed, or is
> there more complexity in changing the transmission than I understood??
> Does the spigot shaft need to be taken from the old gearbox, and tips on
> doing this?
>
> Apologies if I lost anything in translation here. And thanks to this
> group for all your help, you guys are great.
>
> Sam
7
Hi Phill,

AHF. According to here,

http://www.club80-90syncro.co.uk/Syncro_website/TechnicalPages/Syncro%20Axle%20Codes%20and%20Gear%20Ratios%205.htm

That should be good yeah?

:) Sam

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, plander@... wrote:
>
> Sam, your old box is a 6P, what is the new one?
>
>
>
> > heysamuelarnold <me@...> wrote:
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I have now been asked to check with you guys (the syncro experts) by my
> > mechanic before he continues!
> >
> > Apologies for my lack of understanding of the insides of gearboxes etc.
> >
> > As follows.
> >
> > I am changing my non-locking petrol transmission to a diesel locking
> > transmission - same final drives. Do I simply need to change over the
> > bell-housing?
> >
> > The mechanic has noticed that the spigot shaft on the diesel box appear
> > 10mm shorter - is this an issue or can this be ignored? He said it
> > seems this can be ignored, there should still be enough room for the
> > flywheel, but said to check with you guys.
> >
> > So... is it as simple as changing the bell-housing, as I believed, or is
> > there more complexity in changing the transmission than I understood??
> > Does the spigot shaft need to be taken from the old gearbox, and tips on
> > doing this?
> >
> > Apologies if I lost anything in translation here. And thanks to this
> > group for all your help, you guys are great.
> >
> > Sam
>
8
Sam.
You got a terrific response/advice there from Scott Daniel and Ben T. Worth hundreds of $'s. Thats the group working as Les hoped it would be when setting it up.Well done everyone.

What I thought was moisture under the drivers side rubber floor turns out to be brake fluid. which might explain why my 'brake' warning light came on when descending down a steep 'G' gear hill. The service manual says 'have inspected immediately by V.A.G authorized  dealer'. Has anyone serviced this component under the steering wheel before? Any advice much appreciated.

 Heh Francesca did you manage to get to Mallacoota?  When is the DOTVW in Victoria and NSW planned for? Don't think I can make Vella just yet which I would love to, but Melb or Syd seem more doable. 
 
Regards

Michael


From: heysamuelarnold <me@samarnold.org>
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, 12 July, 2010 6:30:20 PM
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Another changing from non-locking petrol to locking disel question

 

Thank you thank you thank you BenT and Scott. Scott, thank you for those instructions, the mechanic was having some difficulty changing the input shaft, was able to get it out of the petrol box but not on the diesel, so hopefully those steps should make it clear for him.

Sam

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Daniel - Turbovans" <ScottDaniel@...> wrote:
>
> the diesel input shaft ( what you call spigot shaft) is shorter than the one on a gasoline waterboxer gearbox. You need to put the longer waterboxer gasoline input shaft where the shorter diesel one was. .
>
> I'm thinking 'diesel syncro transmission' .
> You'll to take the diesel BH off, and put on the waterboxer bell housing ..
> you would also have to swap over the two input shafts..
> remove both, put the longer waterboxer input shaft onto the diesel transmission.
>
> the way you change that part ( input shaft ) is to undo a circlip several inches down the input shaft..
> open that clip, slide it back ...then slide back the 'collar' there. Once it's slid back far enough to expose where two shafts meed each other ( with a threaded screw joining them ) unscrew the input shaft...counterclockwise, from the 'further in' partt of the input shaft.
> if you need to, put the gearbox in any gear and hold the output flanges from turing if you have to, to hold the 'further in' part of the input shaft from turning, so you can unscrew the outer part.
> It's a pretty clever little junction.
> Sometimes it's hard to get the collar to slide back enough ...there's a cut out in the ring gear carrier for clearance ....sometimee's there's barely enough room to slide that collar back enough.
>
> I hope final drive ratios are the same ..and the same as the front dfiferential's ratio too.
>
> hope that helps.
> scott
> turbovans
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: heysamuelarnold
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 11:51 PM
> Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Another changing from non-locking petrol to locking disel question
>
>
>
> Hi All,
>
> I have now been asked to check with you guys (the syncro experts) by my mechanic before he continues!
>
> Apologies for my lack of understanding of the insides of gearboxes etc.
>
> As follows.
>
> I am changing my non-locking petrol transmission to a diesel locking transmission - same final drives. Do I simply need to change over the bell-housing?
>
> The mechanic has noticed that the spigot shaft on the diesel box appear 10mm shorter - is this an issue or can this be ignored? He said it seems this can be ignored, there should still be enough room for the flywheel, but said to check with you guys.
>
> So... is it as simple as changing the bell-housing, as I believed, or is there more complexity in changing the transmission than I understood?? Does the spigot shaft need to be taken from the old gearbox, and tips on doing this?
>
> Apologies if I lost anything in translation here. And thanks to this group for all your help, you guys are great.
>
> Sam
>


 
9

Michael,
 
While your at it - upgrade to a BMW booster. Sounds like it will be worth the trouble. Clean off that brake fluid - it takes the paint off - nasty stuff.
 
Cheers,
 
Skot
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 12:39 PM
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Another changing from non-locking petrol to locking disel question

 

Sam.
You got a terrific response/advice there from Scott Daniel and Ben T. Worth hundreds of $'s. Thats the group working as Les hoped it would be when setting it up.Well done everyone.

What I thought was moisture under the drivers side rubber floor turns out to be brake fluid. which might explain why my 'brake' warning light came on when descending down a steep 'G' gear hill. The service manual says 'have inspected immediately by V.A.G authorized  dealer'. Has anyone serviced this component under the steering wheel before? Any advice much appreciated.

 Heh Francesca did you manage to get to Mallacoota?  When is the DOTVW in Victoria and NSW planned for? Don't think I can make Vella just yet which I would love to, but Melb or Syd seem more doable. 
 
Regards

Michael


From: heysamuelarnold <me@samarnold. org>
To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, 12 July, 2010 6:30:20 PM
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australi a] Re: Another changing from non-locking petrol to locking disel question

 

Thank you thank you thank you BenT and Scott. Scott, thank you for those instructions, the mechanic was having some difficulty changing the input shaft, was able to get it out of the petrol box but not on the diesel, so hopefully those steps should make it clear for him.

Sam

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com, "Scott Daniel - Turbovans" <ScottDaniel@ ...> wrote:
>
> the diesel input shaft ( what you call spigot shaft) is shorter than the one on a gasoline waterboxer gearbox. You need to put the longer waterboxer gasoline input shaft where the shorter diesel one was. .
>
> I'm thinking 'diesel syncro transmission' .
> You'll to take the diesel BH off, and put on the waterboxer bell housing ..
> you would also have to swap over the two input shafts..
> remove both, put the longer waterboxer input shaft onto the diesel transmission.
>
> the way you change that part ( input shaft ) is to undo a circlip several inches down the input shaft..
> open that clip, slide it back ...then slide back the 'collar' there. Once it's slid back far enough to expose where two shafts meed each other ( with a threaded screw joining them ) unscrew the input shaft...countercloc kwise, from the 'further in' partt of the input shaft.
> if you need to, put the gearbox in any gear and hold the output flanges from turing if you have to, to hold the 'further in' part of the input shaft from turning, so you can unscrew the outer part.
> It's a pretty clever little junction.
> Sometimes it's hard to get the collar to slide back enough ...there's a cut out in the ring gear carrier for clearance ....sometimee' s there's barely enough room to slide that collar back enough.
>
> I hope final drive ratios are the same ..and the same as the front dfiferential' s ratio too.
>
> hope that helps.
> scott
> turbovans
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: heysamuelarnold
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 11:51 PM
> Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australi a] Another changing from non-locking petrol to locking disel question
>
>
>
> Hi All,
>
> I have now been asked to check with you guys (the syncro experts) by my mechanic before he continues!
>
> Apologies for my lack of understanding of the insides of gearboxes etc.
>
> As follows.
>
> I am changing my non-locking petrol transmission to a diesel locking transmission - same final drives. Do I simply need to change over the bell-housing?
>
> The mechanic has noticed that the spigot shaft on the diesel box appear 10mm shorter - is this an issue or can this be ignored? He said it seems this can be ignored, there should still be enough room for the flywheel, but said to check with you guys.
>
> So... is it as simple as changing the bell-housing, as I believed, or is there more complexity in changing the transmission than I understood?? Does the spigot shaft need to be taken from the old gearbox, and tips on doing this?
>
> Apologies if I lost anything in translation here. And thanks to this group for all your help, you guys are great.
>
> Sam
>


 

10
Michael,

Are you perhaps referring to a leak from the brake/clutch master cylinder? They leak from higher up. When you take the instrument cluster cover off fingers on farthest edge - pull up and towards you) you can see the plastuc brake fluid reservoir. Replacement is relatively easy but very messy. I have done the operation myself. However as a 'serial T3 owner' there are some jobs I prefer to send to the local VW repair shop. This is one of those. It's too difficult to bleed brakes without a suitable assistant or a powerbleeder. 

Should you decide to deal with the mess, make sure you bench bleed the mastercylinder before installation. Email if you need more specific instructions. 


Regards,

BenT 

Sent from my leaky brake booster


On Jul 12, 2010, at 7:39 PM, Michael Rayner <mrayner51@yahoo.com> wrote:

Sam.
You got a terrific response/advice there from Scott Daniel and Ben T. Worth hundreds of $'s. Thats the group working as Les hoped it would be when setting it up.Well done everyone.

What I thought was moisture under the drivers side rubber floor turns out to be brake fluid. which might explain why my 'brake' warning light came on when descending down a steep 'G' gear hill. The service manual says 'have inspected immediately by V.A.G authorized  dealer'. Has anyone serviced this component under the steering wheel before? Any advice much appreciated.

 Heh Francesca did you manage to get to Mallacoota?  When is the DOTVW in Victoria and NSW planned for? Don't think I can make Vella just yet which I would love to, but Melb or Syd seem more doable. 
 
Regards

Michael
11
Hi Michael,

Seems your Syncro has a few more surprises in store for you.

Didn't have time in the end to get to Mallacoota - just Wingan Inlet. Hope you can make it to DOTVW.

Francesca.

On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 12:56 PM, Mr Scott Pitcher <spbconsulting@bigpond.com> wrote:



Michael,
While your at it - upgrade to a BMW booster. Sounds like it will be worth the trouble. Clean off that brake fluid - it takes the paint off - nasty stuff.
Cheers,
Skot
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 12:39 PM
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Another changing from non-locking petrol to locking disel question

Sam.
You got a terrific response/advice there from Scott Daniel and Ben T. Worth hundreds of $'s. Thats the group working as Les hoped it would be when setting it up.Well done everyone.

What I thought was moisture under the drivers side rubber floor turns out to be brake fluid. which might explain why my 'brake' warning light came on when descending down a steep 'G' gear hill. The service manual says 'have inspected immediately by V.A.G authorized dealer'. Has anyone serviced this component under the steering wheel before? Any advice much appreciated.

Heh Francesca did you manage to get to Mallacoota? When is the DOTVW in Victoria and NSW planned for? Don't think I can make Vella just yet which I would love to, but Melb or Syd seem more doable.
Regards

Michael


From: heysamuelarnold <me@samarnold.org>
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, 12 July, 2010 6:30:20 PM
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Another changing from non-locking petrol to locking disel question

Thank you thank you thank you BenT and Scott. Scott, thank you for those instructions, the mechanic was having some difficulty changing the input shaft, was able to get it out of the petrol box but not on the diesel, so hopefully those steps should make it clear for him.

Sam

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Daniel - Turbovans" <ScottDaniel@...> wrote:
>
> the diesel input shaft ( what you call spigot shaft) is shorter than the one on a gasoline waterboxer gearbox. You need to put the longer waterboxer gasoline input shaft where the shorter diesel one was. .
>
> I'm thinking 'diesel syncro transmission' .
> You'll to take the diesel BH off, and put on the waterboxer bell housing ..
> you would also have to swap over the two input shafts..
> remove both, put the longer waterboxer input shaft onto the diesel transmission.
>
> the way you change that part ( input shaft ) is to undo a circlip several inches down the input shaft..
> open that clip, slide it back ...then slide back the 'collar' there. Once it's slid back far enough to expose where two shafts meed each other ( with a threaded screw joining them ) unscrew the input shaft...counterclockwise, from the 'further in' partt of the input shaft.
> if you need to, put the gearbox in any gear and hold the output flanges from turing if you have to, to hold the 'further in' part of the input shaft from turning, so you can unscrew the outer part.
> It's a pretty clever little junction.
> Sometimes it's hard to get the collar to slide back enough ...there's a cut out in the ring gear carrier for clearance ....sometimee's there's barely enough room to slide that collar back enough.
>
> I hope final drive ratios are the same ..and the same as the front dfiferential's ratio too.
>
> hope that helps.
> scott
> turbovans
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: heysamuelarnold
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 11:51 PM
> Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Another changing from non-locking petrol to locking disel question
>
>
>
> Hi All,
>
> I have now been asked to check with you guys (the syncro experts) by my mechanic before he continues!
>
> Apologies for my lack of understanding of the insides of gearboxes etc.
>
> As follows.
>
> I am changing my non-locking petrol transmission to a diesel locking transmission - same final drives. Do I simply need to change over the bell-housing?
>
> The mechanic has noticed that the spigot shaft on the diesel box appear 10mm shorter - is this an issue or can this be ignored? He said it seems this can be ignored, there should still be enough room for the flywheel, but said to check with you guys.
>
> So... is it as simple as changing the bell-housing, as I believed, or is there more complexity in changing the transmission than I understood?? Does the spigot shaft need to be taken from the old gearbox, and tips on doing this?
>
> Apologies if I lost anything in translation here. And thanks to this group for all your help, you guys are great.
>
> Sam
>



12
Oh yes still some surprises left but heh, minor compared to what I started with. She went to Melb and back without a hint of overheating (touch wood), and better still without a sign of the dreaded Vanagon Syndrome. Do  you know what the date is for DOTVW? Wingan is pretty special eh! 
 
Regards

Michael


From: Francesca Coles <fcoles6@gmail.com>
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, 13 July, 2010 5:41:20 PM
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Another changing from non-locking petrol to locking disel question

 

Hi Michael,


Seems your Syncro has a few more surprises in store for you. 

Didn't have time in the end to get to Mallacoota - just Wingan Inlet. Hope you can make it to DOTVW.

Francesca.

On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 12:56 PM, Mr Scott Pitcher <spbconsulting@ bigpond.com> wrote:
 



Michael,
 
While your at it - upgrade to a BMW booster. Sounds like it will be worth the trouble. Clean off that brake fluid - it takes the paint off - nasty stuff.
 
Cheers,
 
Skot
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 12:39 PM
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australi a] Re: Another changing from non-locking petrol to locking disel question

 

Sam.
You got a terrific response/advice there from Scott Daniel and Ben T. Worth hundreds of $'s. Thats the group working as Les hoped it would be when setting it up.Well done everyone.

What I thought was moisture under the drivers side rubber floor turns out to be brake fluid. which might explain why my 'brake' warning light came on when descending down a steep 'G' gear hill. The service manual says 'have inspected immediately by V.A.G authorized  dealer'. Has anyone serviced this component under the steering wheel before? Any advice much appreciated.

 Heh Francesca did you manage to get to Mallacoota?  When is the DOTVW in Victoria and NSW planned for? Don't think I can make Vella just yet which I would love to, but Melb or Syd seem more doable. 
 
Regards

Michael


From: heysamuelarnold <me@samarnold. org>
To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, 12 July, 2010 6:30:20 PM
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australi a] Re: Another changing from non-locking petrol to locking disel question

 

Thank you thank you thank you BenT and Scott. Scott, thank you for those instructions, the mechanic was having some difficulty changing the input shaft, was able to get it out of the petrol box but not on the diesel, so hopefully those steps should make it clear for him.

Sam

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com, "Scott Daniel - Turbovans" <ScottDaniel@ ...> wrote:
>
> the diesel input shaft ( what you call spigot shaft) is shorter than the one on a gasoline waterboxer gearbox. You need to put the longer waterboxer gasoline input shaft where the shorter diesel one was. .
>
> I'm thinking 'diesel syncro transmission' .
> You'll to take the diesel BH off, and put on the waterboxer bell housing ..
> you would also have to swap over the two input shafts..
> remove both, put the longer waterboxer input shaft onto the diesel transmission.
>
> the way you change that part ( input shaft ) is to undo a circlip several inches down the input shaft..
> open that clip, slide it back ...then slide back the 'collar' there. Once it's slid back far enough to expose where two shafts meed each other ( with a threaded screw joining them ) unscrew the input shaft...countercloc kwise, from the 'further in' partt of the input shaft.
> if you need to, put the gearbox in any gear and hold the output flanges from turing if you have to, to hold the 'further in' part of the input shaft from turning, so you can unscrew the outer part.
> It's a pretty clever little junction.
> Sometimes it's hard to get the collar to slide back enough ...there's a cut out in the ring gear carrier for clearance ....sometimee's there's barely enough room to slide that collar back enough.
>
> I hope final drive ratios are the same ..and the same as the front dfiferential's ratio too.
>
> hope that helps.
> scott
> turbovans
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: heysamuelarnold
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 11:51 PM
> Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australi a] Another changing from non-locking petrol to locking disel question
>
>
>
> Hi All,
>
> I have now been asked to check with you guys (the syncro experts) by my mechanic before he continues!
>
> Apologies for my lack of understanding of the insides of gearboxes etc.
>
> As follows.
>
> I am changing my non-locking petrol transmission to a diesel locking transmission - same final drives. Do I simply need to change over the bell-housing?
>
> The mechanic has noticed that the spigot shaft on the diesel box appear 10mm shorter - is this an issue or can this be ignored? He said it seems this can be ignored, there should still be enough room for the flywheel, but said to check with you guys.
>
> So... is it as simple as changing the bell-housing, as I believed, or is there more complexity in changing the transmission than I understood?? Does the spigot shaft need to be taken from the old gearbox, and tips on doing this?
>
> Apologies if I lost anything in translation here. And thanks to this group for all your help, you guys are great.
>
> Sam
>


 



 
13

Michael,

The date and venue for the 2010 DOTVW has yet to be set but it is likely to be at Yarra Glen Racecourse, where it was held some years ago. Brian Reed will let us know as soon as it has been finalized.

Les

From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael Rayner
Sent: 13 July 2010 18:25
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Another changing from non-locking petrol to locking disel question

Oh yes still some surprises left but heh, minor compared to what I started with. She went to Melb and back without a hint of overheating (touch wood), and better still without a sign of the dreaded Vanagon Syndrome. Do  you know what the date is for DOTVW? Wingan is pretty special eh! 

Regards

Michael
 

14
Les,

Isn't it on Nov 21?



> Les Harris <leslieharris@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>
> Michael,
>
> The date and venue for the 2010 DOTVW has yet to be set but it is likely
> to
> be at Yarra Glen Racecourse, where it was held some years ago. Brian
> Reed
> will let us know as soon as it has been finalized.
>
> Les
>
15

Phill,

I checked the last several newsletters but I must have missed that. The venue and date had yet to be fixed when I last spoke with Brian.

Brian,

Anything further?

Les

From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com [mailto: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of plander@optusnet.com.au
Sent: 14 July 2010 07:26
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Another changing from non-locking petrol to locking disel question

Les,

Isn't it on Nov 21?

Les Harris <leslieharris@optusnet.com.au> wrote:

Michael,

The date and venue for the 2010 DOTVW has yet to be set but it is likely
to be at Yarra Glen Racecourse, where it was held some years ago. Brian
Reed will let us know as soon as it has been finalized.

Les

16
Here you go Les

They list it as Nov 21

http://www.vwclub.com.au/events.php

21 Nov
VWCV Day of the Volkswagen 2010

The VWCV's biggest event for the year is the Day of the Volkswagen. With over 400 cars this is the biggest VW show in Australia. Check back for further details in the near future

* Venue: Yarra Glen Race Course, Armstrong Rd, Yarra Glen

For more information on this event please contact Dean Holden on 0412 500588.





> Les Harris <leslieharris@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>
> Phill,
>
> I checked the last several newsletters but I must have missed that. The
> venue and date had yet to be fixed when I last spoke with Brian.
>
> Brian,
>
> Anything further?
>
> Les
>
> _____
>
> From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> plander@optusnet.com.au
> Sent: 14 July 2010 07:26
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Another changing from
> non-locking
> petrol to locking disel question
>
> Les,
>
> Isn't it on Nov 21?
>
> Les Harris <leslieharris@optusnet.com.au
> <mailto:leslieharris%40optusnet.com.au> > wrote:
>
> Michael,
>
> The date and venue for the 2010 DOTVW has yet to be set but it is
> likely
> to be at Yarra Glen Racecourse, where it was held some years ago. Brian
>
> Reed will let us know as soon as it has been finalized.
>
> Les
17

Phill,

Thanks for that.  I was looking for it in the email newsletters and didn’t think of the website.

Yarra Glen was the venue before Cranbourne and was a bit on the cramped side and the attendance has increased considerable since then.  Brian told me that a lot more area will be available at Yarra Glen this year, so we should be able to have a dedicated Syncro space.

Les

From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com [mailto: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of plander@optusnet.com.au
Sent: 14 July 2010 11:08
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] DOTVW, Victoria 2010

 

Here you go Les

They list it as Nov 21

http://www.vwclub.com.au/events.php


18
I will try and fly down again this year.

Phill



> Les Harris <leslieharris@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>
> Phill,
>
> Thanks for that. I was looking for it in the email newsletters and
> didn't
> think of the website.
>
> Yarra Glen was the venue before Cranbourne and was a bit on the cramped
> side
> and the attendance has increased considerable since then. Brian told me
> that a lot more area will be available at Yarra Glen this year, so we
> should
> be able to have a dedicated Syncro space.
>
> Les
>
> _____
>
> From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> plander@optusnet.com.au
> Sent: 14 July 2010 11:08
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] DOTVW, Victoria 2010
>
>
>
> Here you go Les
>
> They list it as Nov 21
>
> http://www.vwclub.com.au/events.php
19
Hi Les

I actually attended the last Yarra Glen DOTVW covering it for The Age. I hear what you say about tightness of space but in terms of ambience and 'picturesqueness' I think it's a more pleasant venue.
 
Regards

Michael


From: Les Harris <leslieharris@optusnet.com.au>
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, 14 July, 2010 12:08:48 PM
Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] DOTVW, Victoria 2010

 

Phill,

Thanks for that.  I was looking for it in the email newsletters and didn’t think of the website.

Yarra Glen was the venue before Cranbourne and was a bit on the cramped side and the attendance has increased considerable since then.  Brian told me that a lot more area will be available at Yarra Glen this year, so we should be able to have a dedicated Syncro space.

Les

From: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com [mailto: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of plander@optusnet. com.au
Sent: 14 July 2010 11:08
To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australi a] DOTVW, Victoria 2010

 

Here you go Les

They list it as Nov 21

http://www.vwclub. com.au/events. php



 
20
Hi Les, Micheal & Phill,

Yes, DotVW is on 21/11 at Yarra Glen. I haven't seen the improved site myself, but I believe what was the outside gravel car park area is now included in the main complex, which will give us the required room.

What with one thing and another, I haven't been able to get to any DotVW subcommittee meetings, but I'm keeping my eye on what's happening from the Syncro point of view. The theme this year is the 35th anniversary of the Golf, so not so kombi focussed as the last couple of years.

There was some suggestion that we (ie VWCV) may have access to the venue overnight Saturday, potentially allowing camp-overs. I can't imagine this would allow unlimited numbers though, or it could end up in the hundreds. I'll be looking to see if camping on-site is a possibility for the Syncro group, but it might be worth some-one scouting out local camping spots already.

PS. Attention Phill. You generously made a lot of the participants copies of Heidi's Kombis to the Kape video in TV playable format. I've used mine at many meetings and camp-outs, and managed to scratch it rather severely, as Micheal can attest. I wonder if you can run me another copy. I could pick it up at Valla if you can. I still have the case, just need the disc. Happy to pay any costs involved.

Brian

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, Michael Rayner <mrayner51@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Les
>
> I actually attended the last Yarra Glen DOTVW covering it for The Age. I hear
> what you say about tightness of space but in terms of ambience and
> 'picturesqueness' I think it's a more pleasant venue.
> Regards
>
>
> Michael
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Les Harris <leslieharris@...>
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wed, 14 July, 2010 12:08:48 PM
> Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] DOTVW, Victoria 2010
>
>
> Phill,
> Thanks for that. I was looking for it in the email newsletters and didn’t think
> of the website.
> Yarra Glen was the venue before Cranbourne and was a bit on the cramped side and
> the attendance has increased considerable since then. Brian told me that a lot
> more area will be available at Yarra Glen this year, so we should be able to
> have a dedicated Syncro space.
> Les
>
> ________________________________
>
> From:Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com [mailto: Syncro_T3_Australia
> @yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of plander@optusnet. com.au
> Sent: 14 July 2010 11:08
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
> Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australi a] DOTVW, Victoria 2010
>
> Here you go Les
> They list it as Nov 21
> http://www.vwclub com.au/events. php
>