clutch master cylinder outlet hose

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Reposted with its own thread

Hey guys have that t3 2wd trakker here I was going to remove the pop-top and fit out from for my syncro that was supposed to have blowen clutch or throw-out bearing.

After a quick bleed to see what noises I could hear etc. I discover the hard plastic clutch master cylinder EXIT HOSE SPLIT

So my questions are

Is this clutch hydrolytic system same as syncro If so makes me think this hose could stop the Syncro in the rough with no clutch ?

Best way to repair < brass or copper elbow as it split on the bend into the floor> new hose that's not plastic would be good?

Replacement availability , price,?

Best way to remove as its hard pipe as its a push on to a spigot from the master Can you heat the hose with hot water or some thing

Do you have to remove lower d s hose from radiator dropping the coolant as its just been replaced to access bottom what looks like a olive or flare fitting at the at the end of the 6 inch
plastic hydrolic hose .

Too good to destroy cutting the roof off and it does apperr to be glued with a few fixings if the clutch is just the PLASTIC pipe split.

If it does come good I need a new white sliding door as its dented from side swiping but took most of the hit so another door makes it very respectable

Its got new brakes new bushes on upper control arm new cat &, muffler
Heater hoses, fuel filter, fuel hose & clamps, ,Dual Batteries Fuel tank rear cv  all shiny brand new never driven

Some Old Guy had gone through the lot,

 Gave it to his son who was beaten by a bloody plastic hose that looks like it was an afterthought in design. With no room in the unit block for parking and too much money spent already on the van

Santer has delivered.

Thanks Guys for the year on the forum good to check the mail an read all the VW stories & Cheer

 Merry Christmas Happy New Year

Pete SEQ 
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Got it off too easy with the lower grill out.
Got audi part stamped all over it and looks like split from old age and flexing on the right angle bend.
Cheers pete

On Sun, Dec 21, 2014 at 10:14 AM, peterw1000@gmail.com [Syncro_T3_Australia] <Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Reposted with its own thread

Hey guys have that t3 2wd trakker here I was going to remove the pop-top and fit out from for my syncro that was supposed to have blowen clutch or throw-out bearing.

After a quick bleed to see what noises I could hear etc. I discover the hard plastic clutch master cylinder EXIT HOSE SPLIT

So my questions are

Is this clutch hydrolytic system same as syncro If so makes me think this hose could stop the Syncro in the rough with no clutch ?

Best way to repair < brass or copper elbow as it split on the bend into the floor> new hose that's not plastic would be good?

Replacement availability , price,?

Best way to remove as its hard pipe as its a push on to a spigot from the master Can you heat the hose with hot water or some thing

Do you have to remove lower d s hose from radiator dropping the coolant as its just been replaced to access bottom what looks like a olive or flare fitting at the at the end of the 6 inch
plastic hydrolic hose .

Too good to destroy cutting the roof off and it does apperr to be glued with a few fixings if the clutch is just the PLASTIC pipe split.

If it does come good I need a new white sliding door as its dented from side swiping but took most of the hit so another door makes it very respectable

Its got new brakes new bushes on upper control arm new cat &, muffler
Heater hoses, fuel filter, fuel hose & clamps, ,Dual Batteries Fuel tank rear cv all shiny brand new never driven

Some Old Guy had gone through the lot,

Gave it to his son who was beaten by a bloody plastic hose that looks like it was an afterthought in design. With no room in the unit block for parking and too much money spent already on the van

Santer has delivered.

Thanks Guys for the year on the forum good to check the mail an read all the VW stories & Cheer

Merry Christmas Happy New Year

Pete SEQ


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Hi Pete,

I have not worked on my clutch, so not sure inter changeability or removal/install

.

I would not be using brass or copper, they would be more prone to failure over time than the original. The best upgrade would be using brake parts (steel pipe), a brake shop should be able to help. I did this on another VW I have with hydraulic clutch where parts are NLA.

Keep in mind a steel pipe will need proper support (attached  to body/chassis) and grommets where it passes through chassis rails etc to prevent failing over time. The plastic most likely needs less support or protection.


Had a quick look on van-café, the part number for syncro and 2WD are different (no idea why though?). They list the original as available. I see for the 2WD they offer a steel replacement.


Richard


---In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, <peterw1000@...> wrote :

Got it off too easy with the lower grill out.
 Got audi part stamped all over it and looks like split from old age and flexing on the right angle bend.
Cheers pete

On Sun, Dec 21, 2014 at 10:14 AM, peterw1000@... [Syncro_T3_Australia] <Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

Reposted with its own thread

Hey guys have that t3 2wd trakker here I was going to remove the pop-top and fit out from for my syncro that was supposed to have blowen clutch or throw-out bearing.

After a quick bleed to see what noises I could hear etc. I discover the hard plastic clutch master cylinder EXIT HOSE SPLIT

So my questions are

Is this clutch hydrolytic system same as syncro If so makes me think this hose could stop the Syncro in the rough with no clutch ?

Best way to repair < brass or copper elbow as it split on the bend into the floor> new hose that's not plastic would be good?

Replacement availability , price,?

Best way to remove as its hard pipe as its a push on to a spigot from the master Can you heat the hose with hot water or some thing

Do you have to remove lower d s hose from radiator dropping the coolant as its just been replaced to access bottom what looks like a olive or flare fitting at the at the end of the 6 inch
plastic hydrolic hose .

Too good to destroy cutting the roof off and it does apperr to be glued with a few fixings if the clutch is just the PLASTIC pipe split.

If it does come good I need a new white sliding door as its dented from side swiping but took most of the hit so another door makes it very respectable

Its got new brakes new bushes on upper control arm new cat &, muffler
Heater hoses, fuel filter, fuel hose & clamps, ,Dual Batteries Fuel tank rear cv  all shiny brand new never driven

Some Old Guy had gone through the lot,

 Gave it to his son who was beaten by a bloody plastic hose that looks like it was an afterthought in design. With no room in the unit block for parking and too much money spent already on the van

Santer has delivered.

Thanks Guys for the year on the forum good to check the mail an read all the VW stories & Cheer

 Merry Christmas Happy New Year

Pete SEQ 


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Yes Richard I looked at van Café but could only find rear hose so maybe I was looking in the wrong spot can you post me the link. Will ring the local supplier tomorrow and see if they have or can get one.
Cheers pete

On Sun, Dec 21, 2014 at 11:37 PM, cathrich1@yahoo.com.au [Syncro_T3_Australia] <Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Hi Pete,

I have not worked on my clutch, so not sure inter changeability or removal/install

.

I would not be using brass or copper, they would be more prone to failure over time than the original. The best upgrade would be using brake parts (steel pipe), a brake shop should be able to help. I did this on another VW I have with hydraulic clutch where parts are NLA.

Keep in mind a steel pipe will need proper support (attached to body/chassis) and grommets where it passes through chassis rails etc to prevent failing over time. The plastic most likely needs less support or protection.


Had a quick look on van-café, the part number for syncro and 2WD are different (no idea why though?). They list the original as available. I see for the 2WD they offer a steel replacement.


Richard


---In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, <peterw1000@...> wrote :

Got it off too easy with the lower grill out.
Got audi part stamped all over it and looks like split from old age and flexing on the right angle bend.
Cheers pete

On Sun, Dec 21, 2014 at 10:14 AM, peterw1000@... [Syncro_T3_Australia] <Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Reposted with its own thread

Hey guys have that t3 2wd trakker here I was going to remove the pop-top and fit out from for my syncro that was supposed to have blowen clutch or throw-out bearing.

After a quick bleed to see what noises I could hear etc. I discover the hard plastic clutch master cylinder EXIT HOSE SPLIT

So my questions are

Is this clutch hydrolytic system same as syncro If so makes me think this hose could stop the Syncro in the rough with no clutch ?

Best way to repair < brass or copper elbow as it split on the bend into the floor> new hose that's not plastic would be good?

Replacement availability , price,?

Best way to remove as its hard pipe as its a push on to a spigot from the master Can you heat the hose with hot water or some thing

Do you have to remove lower d s hose from radiator dropping the coolant as its just been replaced to access bottom what looks like a olive or flare fitting at the at the end of the 6 inch
plastic hydrolic hose .

Too good to destroy cutting the roof off and it does apperr to be glued with a few fixings if the clutch is just the PLASTIC pipe split.

If it does come good I need a new white sliding door as its dented from side swiping but took most of the hit so another door makes it very respectable

Its got new brakes new bushes on upper control arm new cat &, muffler
Heater hoses, fuel filter, fuel hose & clamps, ,Dual Batteries Fuel tank rear cv all shiny brand new never driven

Some Old Guy had gone through the lot,

Gave it to his son who was beaten by a bloody plastic hose that looks like it was an afterthought in design. With no room in the unit block for parking and too much money spent already on the van

Santer has delivered.

Thanks Guys for the year on the forum good to check the mail an read all the VW stories & Cheer

Merry Christmas Happy New Year

Pete SEQ



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OK, maybe this is the wrong pipe then, this is what I was looking at

Van Cafe: Vanagon Parts - Syncro Clutch Slave Cylinder Hose | Slave Cylinder


I am guessing from what you said there is another one that runs up to the master cylinder?


Can't see anything on BusDepot either, and they seem to list different parts to van café!!

Clutch Slave Cylinder Hose

(nothing for master cyl. side)




Just regarding your note on being stranded with a split pipe, when I recently split a coolant hose, I found a silicon tape (most places seem to sell it), and it lists it as suitable for emergency repairs for most hoses and pipes and suitable for most fluids and temperatures. The clutch will run lower pressure than the brakes, so might work as a repair for the clutch.

I have not used it, so cannot comment on it's effectiveness. Would be an interesting experiment it you tried that tape before replacing the tube to see if it works.


Richard

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Richard I did check some of the popular sites but no listings for the flex hose from clutch master cylinder. Its about 12 in long with 2 or 3 bends hard plastic. I've cut it to try and sleeve with brake line but toooo hard plastic ?.
so cant use the tape.
Has anyone got a van they are parting out . Its quite easy to remove with the lower grill out. And small to post.
Cheers Guys pete


On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 10:14 AM, cathrich1@yahoo.com.au [Syncro_T3_Australia] <Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

OK, maybe this is the wrong pipe then, this is what I was looking at

Van Cafe: Vanagon Parts - Syncro Clutch Slave Cylinder Hose | Slave Cylinder
Van Cafe: Vanagon Parts - Syncro Clutch Slave Cylind...
Genuine VW Syncro clutch slave cylinder hose. Fits all Syncro's from 1986. We hate to reiterate ourselves, but here's another part that came back from the d...
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I am guessing from what you said there is another one that runs up to the master cylinder?


Can't see anything on BusDepot either, and they seem to list different parts to van café!!

Clutch Slave Cylinder Hose
Clutch Slave Cylinder Hose
Hydraulic pipe that connects directly to slave cylinder.
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(nothing for master cyl. side)




Just regarding your note on being stranded with a split pipe, when I recently split a coolant hose, I found a silicon tape (most places seem to sell it), and it lists it as suitable for emergency repairs for most hoses and pipes and suitable for most fluids and temperatures. The clutch will run lower pressure than the brakes, so might work as a repair for the clutch.

I have not used it, so cannot comment on it's effectiveness. Would be an interesting experiment it you tried that tape before replacing the tube to see if it works.


Richard