coolant hose

Hartman,make him use the push mower!:)

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Ken Garratt " <unclekenz@...> wrote:
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> Hartmut,
> I'd like to make a riverside appointment please for (amongst other things haha) your coolant pipes TLC remedy procedure. I happily concede you've beaten me to the punch for a workable solution!
> By way of bartering, I'd be happy to mow the lawn on the JD and lower the 3 seater lounge from the mezzanine floor!
> Cheers.
> Ken
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> From: Hartmut Kiehn <hartis@...>
> Sent: Wednesday, 4 May 2011 2:59 PM
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Ben,   would love to, but even the push mower is self propelled.....  And the new John Deere that is another story. I am not happy.  I had sort of 'adopted' a 14 yr old neighbor's son
 
and when leaving for NZ have asked him to keep an eye on the place. He found the key for the tractor and the rest is unbelievable.... the damage report would be too long....
 
No more hols for me..     Hart
 

To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
From: bencroft96@yahoo.com
Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 02:01:51 +0000
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: coolant hose

 
Hartman,make him use the push mower!:)

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Ken Garratt " <unclekenz@...> wrote:
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> Hartmut,
> I'd like to make a riverside appointment please for (amongst other things haha) your coolant pipes TLC remedy procedure. I happily concede you've beaten me to the punch for a workable solution!
> By way of bartering, I'd be happy to mow the lawn on the JD and lower the 3 seater lounge from the mezzanine floor!
> Cheers.
> Ken
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Ken,
 
as long as i have shoulder to cry on, i do your coolpipes foc , on my new concrete apron, i will give you lifetimr warranty (my life time that is )  Hartis
nota bene , we talk about the sofa when you are here....
 
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> From: unclekenz@hotmail.com
> Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 01:49:23 +0000
> Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] coolant hose
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> Hartmut,
> I'd like to make a riverside appointment please for (amongst other things haha) your coolant pipes TLC remedy procedure. I happily concede you've beaten me to the punch for a workable solution!
> By way of bartering, I'd be happy to mow the lawn on the JD and lower the 3 seater lounge from the mezzanine floor!
> Cheers.
> Ken
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Thanks for this, Ken (got snowed under with emails). It is just leaking at one point, so might consider the repair option rather than replacement of all hoses (although some would argue this is a good precautionary measure). I am encouraged that your repair has lasted well and no further leaks have arisen. Yes, handy to have the other elements of the kit in the emergency toolbox because Murphy's Law strikes frequently in Syncro Land. Sorry to potentially deprive you of little plastic pipe bits to play with! No doubt you can benefit from Hartmut's extensive experimentation in this area - 'throw another pipe on the barbie, Harmut!'

Cheers,

Francesca.

On 4 May 2011 12:19, Ken Garratt <unclekenz@hotmail.com> wrote:

Francesca,

Is it leaking at just one or is it more than one leaking plastic pipe end joint? I discovered just one plastic pipe end joint (of the four) starting to leak in early 2008, so I bought the GoWesty kit and repaired just that one leaking joint, plus added to it an extra (screw up) joint clip for good measure. It hasn't leaked since, nor have the other joints started leaking. I've kept the remaining unused components of the GoWesty kit for future use.

Repair kit: http://www.gowesty.com/ec_view_details.php?id=3643&category_id=&category_parent_id=


There has been in the past some discussion here and elsewhere as to the prudence of adding more metals (dissimilar) to the coolant system. I have no comment either way on that other than to say if this matter has any validity, then it makes sense to me as to why the pipes were (changed back to) plastic. I seem to recall the very early T3's had metal pipes.

If you go the replacement S/S route, please don't junk the two plastic pipes. If they have failed at only one or more pipe ends, then I'd love to obtain such a pair, if only because I'm curious enough to experiment with them on my workbench in a quest to find a home-made practical/economical/convenient repair solution.

Cheers.

Ken








To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
From: fcoles6@gmail.com
Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 09:42:37 +1000
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] coolant hose

Thanks Scott and Phill. Lots of info there. Only 15 weak spots, eh?? I think I will give Just Kampers a call.

Regards,

Francesca.

On 4 May 2011 08:10, Scott Daniel - Turbovans <ScottDaniel@turbovans.com> wrote:

Greetings,
As built originally, there are no long hoses from engine to radiator of course.
( though some people replace those with long runs of marine coolant hose sometimes ) .
the original main pipes are plastic, with metal insert ends.
'the' weakness about these is that the metal insert ends slide out of place, causing a leak.
Two pipes, makes 4 spots this failure can happen.
GW sells a repair kit I believe, haven't ever tried one myself.
'the hoses' themselves..
actually VW T3 vans have just excellent hoses on them.
take the two at the front, going to the radiator, I have never seen one of those get tired, or weak, or fail, in any way, ever, on hundreds and hundreds of vanagons.
generally ..
in automotive coolant hoses, the ones that fail the easiest are the ones with the most heat in them ..which means, in normal cars, the upper radiator hose ( but not in T3 vans ) So watch for hoses that get the most heat, and are higher up on the engine.
or *any* plastic cooling system parts. Those ALL get brittle and break on T3 vans eventually.
Syncro's are not bad in that regard though.
I have seen a small oil cooler hose split and leak.
Rear heater cores are notorious for leaking ( the valve on it should be left at least half 'on' all year, so fresh coolant flows through the rear heater core , if you have one, that helps it last longer ) .
the coolant pressure bottle ..those are well known for failing eventually.
It's always a good idea to get as 'OE' grade of one of those you can find.
And the pressure cap that goes on that bottle..
should always have a spare or two of those in the van.
there is a small bleed hose coming off the right side of the block, to the right of the dipstick some ...
early ones may be plastic , the part screwed to the engine block with a small hose nipple in it - those break.
Later ones are metal and are not a problem.
I have seen upon a few occasions.....
the hose in the pipe that goes below the crankshaft pulley ...seen a few of those split . Not fun to deal with either.
I've also seen desperate corrosion on the aluminum thermostat housing ..
hopefully you don't have anything like that going on.
Not to mention badly pitted cylinder heads from not changing coolant.
Aluminum can deteriorate very 'nicely' if the coolant/a-frz isn't kept in good condition.
and the sheer number of 'cooling system parts' in a Syncro T3 ..there are so many you could hardly ever count them all. And if you trace the route of the heater hoses back there, under the van ..
you wonder what on earth they were not thinking when they built that.
I'd say there are perhaps 15 chronic weak spots , and the rest is all pretty good.
And two section stainless main coolant pipes ..
generally, those are better for sure.
what fun these vehicles are.
Scott
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 1:51 PM
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] coolant hose

Hi there,

I seem to remember a bit of a thread about preventive maintenance and coolant hoses, one of the Achilles heels of our beasts.... Anyway, it has come to our attention that we need to replace the long hoses which run to and from the radiator. I know these are NLA, and I am looking into other options. I think Roger Bayley and Ken did some impressive research into locally available replacement parts a while back. Also, some people seem to have gone the stainless steel pipe replacement route, via GoWesty or Van Cafe. This seems a rather expensive option, including postage, but might give one long-term peace of mind. Who would recommend this option from personal experience? For the locally available plastic/rubber option, can anyone tell me which part numbers relate to the bits I need, please?

Thanks a lot,

Francesca.

(Syncro taking a vacation while I hunt parts, but bicycle running well.)