coolant question

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Hello, I am replacing a couple of hoses and changing the coolant at the moment and have managed to remove about 6 - 7 litres so far.
I have removed the pipes at the bottom of the radiator, a pipe at the rear that goes underneath, 3 small pipes at the oil cooler, and one pipe at the water pump.

Can anyone help me with ideas how I might get more of the old coolant out. All suggestions welcomed. Regards Greg
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Greg,

There are drain plugs under each water jacket, which is the lowest point in the cooling system.   You will need 17.5 litres to refill from empty.

Les

 

From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com [mailto: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Greg
Sent: 29 October 2011 21:05
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] coolant question

 

 


Hello, I am replacing a couple of hoses and changing the coolant at the moment and have managed to remove about 6 - 7 litres so far.
I have removed the pipes at the bottom of the radiator, a pipe at the rear that goes underneath, 3 small pipes at the oil cooler, and one pipe at the water pump.

Can anyone help me with ideas how I might get more of the old coolant out. All suggestions welcomed. Regards Greg

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Thanks Les, Where is the water jacket? and is it shown and called that in the Bentleys manual? Greg


--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Les Harris" <leslieharris@...> wrote:
>
> Greg,
>
> There are drain plugs under each water jacket, which is the lowest point in
> the cooling system. You will need 17.5 litres to refill from empty.
>
> Les
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Greg
> Sent: 29 October 2011 21:05
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] coolant question
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hello, I am replacing a couple of hoses and changing the coolant at the
> moment and have managed to remove about 6 - 7 litres so far.
> I have removed the pipes at the bottom of the radiator, a pipe at the rear
> that goes underneath, 3 small pipes at the oil cooler, and one pipe at the
> water pump.
>
> Can anyone help me with ideas how I might get more of the old coolant out.
> All suggestions welcomed. Regards Greg
>
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Sorry, should have been a bit more explicit.   The cylinder blocks are cast aluminium and contain the cylinders. The water jacket is what encases the cylinders.   The illustration on Page 15.26 shows the drain plugs.

Les

 

From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com [mailto: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Greg
Sent: 29 October 2011 21:35
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: coolant question

 

 


Thanks Les, Where is the water jacket? and is it shown and called that in the Bentleys manual? Greg

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Les Harris" <leslieharris@...> wrote:

>
> Greg,
>
> There are drain plugs under each water jacket, which is the lowest point
in
> the cooling system. You will need 17.5 litres to refill from empty.
>
> Les
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Greg
> Sent: 29 October 2011 21:05
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] coolant question
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hello, I am replacing a couple of hoses and changing the coolant at the
> moment and have managed to remove about 6 - 7 litres so far.
> I have removed the pipes at the bottom of the radiator, a pipe at the rear
> that goes underneath, 3 small pipes at the oil cooler, and one pipe at the
> water pump.
>
> Can anyone help me with ideas how I might get more of the old coolant out.
> All suggestions welcomed. Regards Greg
>

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Thanks Les is it likely that I have a stone guard over the water jacket and drain plug or am I staring right at it and cant see it for looking?

Greg



--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com,"Les Harris" <leslieharris@...> wrote:
>
> Sorry, should have been a bit more explicit. The cylinder blocks are cast
> aluminium and contain the cylinders. The water jacket is what encases the
> cylinders. The illustration on Page 15.26 shows the drain plugs.
>
> Les
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Greg
> Sent: 29 October 2011 21:35
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: coolant question
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks Les, Where is the water jacket? and is it shown and called that in
> the Bentleys manual? Greg
>
> --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com> , "Les Harris"
> <leslieharris@> wrote:
> >
> > Greg,
> >
> > There are drain plugs under each water jacket, which is the lowest point
> in
> > the cooling system. You will need 17.5 litres to refill from empty.
> >
> > Les
> >
> >
> >
> > _____
> >
> > From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com>
> > [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Greg
> > Sent: 29 October 2011 21:05
> > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] coolant question
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hello, I am replacing a couple of hoses and changing the coolant at the
> > moment and have managed to remove about 6 - 7 litres so far.
> > I have removed the pipes at the bottom of the radiator, a pipe at the rear
> > that goes underneath, 3 small pipes at the oil cooler, and one pipe at the
> > water pump.
> >
> > Can anyone help me with ideas how I might get more of the old coolant out.
> > All suggestions welcomed. Regards Greg
> >
>
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I've removed those threaded plugs ( 6mm allen, between the push rod tubes, accessible after removing the spash guard tin piece under each head ) ....
 
and there was still coolant in the engine.
 
What I suggest is get all you can get out easily,
fill with water, run that around a while, then get all of that out that you can ..
then most of the old coolant will be removed.
 
scott
----- Original Message -----
From: Greg
Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2011 3:35 AM
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: coolant question

 


Thanks Les, Where is the water jacket? and is it shown and called that in the Bentleys manual? Greg

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Les Harris" <leslieharris@...> wrote:
>
> Greg,
>
> There are drain plugs under each water jacket, which is the lowest point in
> the cooling system. You will need 17.5 litres to refill from empty.
>
> Les
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Greg
> Sent: 29 October 2011 21:05
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] coolant question
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hello, I am replacing a couple of hoses and changing the coolant at the
> moment and have managed to remove about 6 - 7 litres so far.
> I have removed the pipes at the bottom of the radiator, a pipe at the rear
> that goes underneath, 3 small pipes at the oil cooler, and one pipe at the
> water pump.
>
> Can anyone help me with ideas how I might get more of the old coolant out.
> All suggestions welcomed. Regards Greg
>

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Greg,

Page 13.32 shows the stone guards but does not name them.   Reading from the top right of the page, you see the front exhaust pipe, then the two guards, then the engine carrier.   Their principal role is to protect the push rod tubes from stone strike.

Les

From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com [mailto: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Greg
Sent: 30 October 2011 01:18
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: coolant question
Thanks Les is it likely that I have a stone guard over the water jacket and drain plug or am I staring right at it and can’t see it for looking?
Greg


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Thank you for your help gentleman I will be getting back under the
vehicle later today to have another look. Greg



--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Les Harris" <leslieharris@...> wrote:
>
> Greg,
>
> Page 13.32 shows the stone guards but does not name them. Reading from the
> top right of the page, you see the front exhaust pipe, then the two guards,
> then the engine carrier. Their principal role is to protect the push rod
> tubes from stone strike.
>
> Les
>
> _____
>
> From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Greg
> Sent: 30 October 2011 01:18
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: coolant question
> Thanks Les is it likely that I have a stone guard over the water jacket and
> drain plug or am I staring right at it and can't see it for looking?
> Greg
>
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Hello, for compatability with G12+I am trying to work out the type of coolant I have in the cooling system at the moment.


Is G11 dark green and are there any other ways to work out what type of coolant it is. Greg



--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Daniel - Turbovans" <ScottDaniel@...> wrote:
>
> I've removed those threaded plugs ( 6mm allen, between the push rod tubes, accessible after removing the spash guard tin piece under each head ) ....
>
> and there was still coolant in the engine.
>
> What I suggest is get all you can get out easily,
> fill with water, run that around a while, then get all of that out that you can ..
> then most of the old coolant will be removed.
>
> scott
> www.turbovans.com
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Greg
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2011 3:35 AM
> Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: coolant question
>
>
>
>
> Thanks Les, Where is the water jacket? and is it shown and called that in the Bentleys manual? Greg
>
> --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Les Harris" <leslieharris@> wrote:
> >
> > Greg,
> >
> > There are drain plugs under each water jacket, which is the lowest point in
> > the cooling system. You will need 17.5 litres to refill from empty.
> >
> > Les
> >
> >
> >
> > _____
> >
> > From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Greg
> > Sent: 29 October 2011 21:05
> > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] coolant question
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hello, I am replacing a couple of hoses and changing the coolant at the
> > moment and have managed to remove about 6 - 7 litres so far.
> > I have removed the pipes at the bottom of the radiator, a pipe at the rear
> > that goes underneath, 3 small pipes at the oil cooler, and one pipe at the
> > water pump.
> >
> > Can anyone help me with ideas how I might get more of the old coolant out.
> > All suggestions welcomed. Regards Greg
> >
>
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Greg,

I believe G11 is blue.
If your coolant is green, do you have service records that may assist in identifying the coolant concentrate installed?

There's a good chance then that as well, the water in it is straight out of the reticulated town water supply. Not good.

Generally speaking if the coolant is green, consider this may be the time to thoroughly check/flush out the whole cooling system (also look for excessive rust particles that may be laying about in coolant pipes and if necessary pipe-brush/jet hose etc clean them out if found) and finally install an approved G11 or G12 Plus coolant/distilled water mix up to 50:50 ratio.

Practice good housekeeping with this maintenance task ... if you're going to do it, do it thoroughly, sure it's a pain in the butt, but it's worth the effort in the long run.

Cheers.

Ken

To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
From: greg_navarro95@yahoo.com
Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 12:49:12 +0000
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: coolant question

 
Hello, for compatability with G12+I am trying to work out the type of coolant I have in the cooling system at the moment.

Is G11 dark green and are there any other ways to work out what type of coolant it is. Greg

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Daniel - Turbovans" <ScottDaniel@...> wrote:
>
> I've removed those threaded plugs ( 6mm allen, between the push rod tubes, accessible after removing the spash guard tin piece under each head ) ....
>
> and there was still coolant in the engine.
>
> What I suggest is get all you can get out easily,
> fill with water, run that around a while, then get all of that out that you can ..
> then most of the old coolant will be removed.
>
> scott
> www.turbovans.com
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Greg
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2011 3:35 AM
> Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: coolant question
>
>
>
>
> Thanks Les, Where is the water jacket? and is it shown and called that in the Bentleys manual? Greg
>
> --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Les Harris" <leslieharris@> wrote:
> >
> > Greg,
> >
> > There are drain plugs under each water jacket, which is the lowest point in
> > the cooling system. You will need 17.5 litres to refill from empty.
> >
> > Les
> >
> >
> >
> > _____
> >
> > From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Greg
> > Sent: 29 October 2011 21:05
> > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] coolant question
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hello, I am replacing a couple of hoses and changing the coolant at the
> > moment and have managed to remove about 6 - 7 litres so far.
> > I have removed the pipes at the bottom of the radiator, a pipe at the rear
> > that goes underneath, 3 small pipes at the oil cooler, and one pipe at the
> > water pump.
> >
> > Can anyone help me with ideas how I might get more of the old coolant out.
> > All suggestions welcomed. Regards Greg
> >
>


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Yes, green is bad. The last VW coolant that was green was G10 that was not suitable for WBX engines.



> Ken Garratt <unclekenz@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Greg,
> I believe G11 is blue.If your coolant is green, do you have service
> records that may assist in identifying the coolant concentrate
> installed?
> There's a good chance then that as well, the water in it is straight out
> of the reticulated town water supply. Not good.
> Generally speaking if the coolant is green, consider this may be the
> time to thoroughly check/flush out the whole cooling system (also look
> for excessive rust particles that may be laying about in coolant pipes
> and if necessary pipe-brush/jet hose etc clean them out if found) and
> finally install an approved G11 or G12 Plus coolant/distilled water mix
> up to 50:50 ratio.
> Practice good housekeeping with this maintenance task ... if you're
> going to do it, do it thoroughly, sure it's a pain in the butt, but it's
> worth the effort in the long run.
> Cheers.
> Ken
>
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> From: greg_navarro95@yahoo.com
> Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 12:49:12 +0000
> Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: coolant question
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> Hello, for compatability with G12+I am trying to work out the type
> of coolant I have in the cooling system at the moment.
>
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> Is G11 dark green and are there any other ways to work out what type of
> coolant it is. Greg
>
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> --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Daniel - Turbovans"
> <ScottDaniel@...> wrote:
>
> >
>
> > I've removed those threaded plugs ( 6mm allen, between the push rod
> tubes, accessible after removing the spash guard tin piece under each
> head ) ....
>
> >
>
> > and there was still coolant in the engine.
>
> >
>
> > What I suggest is get all you can get out easily,
>
> > fill with water, run that around a while, then get all of that out
> that you can ..
>
> > then most of the old coolant will be removed.
>
> >
>
> > scott
>
> > www.turbovans.com
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
>
> > From: Greg
>
> > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
>
> > Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2011 3:35 AM
>
> > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: coolant question
>
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> > Thanks Les, Where is the water jacket? and is it shown and called
> that in the Bentleys manual? Greg
>
> >
>
> > --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Les Harris"
> <leslieharris@> wrote:
>
> > >
>
> > > Greg,
>
> > >
>
> > > There are drain plugs under each water jacket, which is the lowest
> point in
>
> > > the cooling system. You will need 17.5 litres to refill from
> empty.
>
> > >
>
> > > Les
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > > _____
>
> > >
>
> > > From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
>
> > > [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Greg
>
> > > Sent: 29 October 2011 21:05
>
> > > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
>
> > > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] coolant question
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> > >
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> > >
>
> > > Hello, I am replacing a couple of hoses and changing the coolant
> at the
>
> > > moment and have managed to remove about 6 - 7 litres so far.
>
> > > I have removed the pipes at the bottom of the radiator, a pipe at
> the rear
>
> > > that goes underneath, 3 small pipes at the oil cooler, and one
> pipe at the
>
> > > water pump.
>
> > >
>
> > > Can anyone help me with ideas how I might get more of the old
> coolant out.
>
> > > All suggestions welcomed. Regards Greg
>
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