Does anyone have a spare Haynes 3452 Repair Manual

1
Hello
 
Just seeing if anyone has a spare VW T3 Haynes 3452 Repair Manual ? If so please let me know what you would like for it?
Thanks,
 
Leighton
2
Hey folks,

Just wondering if anyone has one of these creases starting in the rear
sides of their van?

Check this Samba thread out:

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=526392&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=120

Interesting........ I am too scared to look at mine with my heavy 2.7L
6cyl donk plus wheel carrier etc and big wheels on board.....

Cheers,

Skot
3
Hi Scott, Mine has the creases, slight but they are there. They were there when I bought the van. It then had 170k on it with a wbx, stardard springs and no extra weight on the rear other than the tow bar. I have posted on that thread the week point in the chassis rail construction that leads to that syndrome. Reinforcing shouldn't be to hard especially if you are willing to sacrifice some under seat area. Vw idea of filling those voids on the inner panel was a good start but they should have gone further. I am of the opinion that heavier duty springs would help prevent this which seems to be at odds with most on the samba. Greg E
 
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Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Syncro rear outer wheel arch crease to panel - anyone have one?

Hey folks,

Just wondering if anyone has one of these creases starting in the rear
sides of their van?

Check this Samba thread out:

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=526392&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=120

Interesting........ I am too scared to look at mine with my heavy 2.7L
6cyl donk plus wheel carrier etc and big wheels on board.....

Cheers,

Skot


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Thanks Greg.

I just had a look at mine today in the light and no damage - but it may have been repaired at some stage in the past when I had seam rust repairs done around those rear arches?

Mine doesn't get a huge amount of off-road play but it does get used off road at least once a year and otherwise for camping and kids taxi/ shopping trolley duties.

I will keep an eye on it though.

Cheers,

Skot


On 17/03/2015 8:12 AM, Greg Esposito gregespo73@yahoo.com [Syncro_T3_Australia] wrote:
Hi Scott, Mine has the creases, slight but they are there. They were there when I bought the van. It then had 170k on it with a wbx, stardard springs and no extra weight on the rear other than the tow bar. I have posted on that thread the week point in the chassis rail construction that leads to that syndrome. Reinforcing shouldn't be to hard especially if you are willing to sacrifice some under seat area. Vw idea of filling those voids on the inner panel was a good start but they should have gone further. I am of the opinion that heavier duty springs would help prevent this which seems to be at odds with most on the samba. Greg E
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Sent: Monday, 16 March 2015, 22:06
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Syncro rear outer wheel arch crease to panel - anyone have one?

Hey folks,

Just wondering if anyone has one of these creases starting in the rear
sides of their van?

Check this Samba thread out:

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=526392&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=120

Interesting........ I am too scared to look at mine with my heavy 2.7L
6cyl donk plus wheel carrier etc and big wheels on board.....

Cheers,

Skot


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I really don't think it is anything to loose sleep over. I think if you jigged mine the creases would come out without the need for panel repair. How's the Caravelle looking Skot? I have given up my search and kept Alice happy with a XC 90 ( "08 39,500kms). Traitor to the cause, I know. 
 
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Thanks Greg.

I just had a look at mine today in the light and no damage - but it may have been repaired at some stage in the past when  I had seam rust repairs done around those rear arches?

Mine doesn't get a huge amount of off-road play but it does get used off road at least once a year and otherwise for camping and kids taxi/ shopping trolley duties.

I will keep an eye on it though.

Cheers,

Skot


On 17/03/2015 8:12 AM, Greg Esposito gregespo73@yahoo.com [Syncro_T3_Australia] wrote:


 
Hi Scott, Mine has the creases, slight but they are there. They were there when I bought the van. It then had 170k on it with a wbx, stardard springs and no extra weight on the rear other than the tow bar. I have posted on that thread the week point in the chassis rail construction that leads to that syndrome. Reinforcing shouldn't be to hard especially if you are willing to sacrifice some under seat area. Vw idea of filling those voids on the inner panel was a good start but they should have gone further. I am of the opinion that heavier duty springs would help prevent this which seems to be at odds with most on the samba. Greg E
 
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Sent: Monday, 16 March 2015, 22:06
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Syncro rear outer wheel arch crease to panel - anyone have one?

Hey folks,

Just wondering if anyone has one of these creases starting in the rear
sides of their van?

Check this Samba thread out:

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=526392&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=120

Interesting........ I am too scared to look at mine with my heavy 2.7L
6cyl donk plus wheel carrier etc and big wheels on board.....

Cheers,

Skot


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Greg,

I tend to agree but I will be looking in that spot on all syncros from now on. Utes should be OK as the tray frame would provide extra stiffness - just the vans that are a problem - especially pop-tops (like mine).

The caravelle has stalled somewhat.

I bought an engine from a caravelle GL auto and swapped it in including my missing bits. It ran crap for a little while due to fuel issues, fixed that and it ran great for about 160kms and then developed a big end bearing noise and is stuffed. I have another motor in the pipeline - at least I have all the bits, clean coolant pipes, re-sealed tank etc etc. So its sitting in my carport with a cover over it until the motor turns up. It still runs but I don't think it would last long before something departed from the engine. Externally and internally cleaned up great.

Alice is definitely a traitor and needs to take a good long look at herself! Ha! Volvo is just cheating....

Cheers,

Skot




On 17/03/2015 12:14 PM, Greg Esposito gregespo73@yahoo.com [Syncro_T3_Australia] wrote:
I really don't think it is anything to loose sleep over. I think if you jigged mine the creases would come out without the need for panel repair. How's the Caravelle looking Skot? I have given up my search and kept Alice happy with a XC 90 ( "08 39,500kms). Traitor to the cause, I know.
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Sent: Tuesday, 17 March 2015, 8:54
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Syncro rear outer wheel arch crease to panel - anyone have one? [1 Attachment]

Thanks Greg.

I just had a look at mine today in the light and no damage - but it may have been repaired at some stage in the past when I had seam rust repairs done around those rear arches?

Mine doesn't get a huge amount of off-road play but it does get used off road at least once a year and otherwise for camping and kids taxi/ shopping trolley duties.

I will keep an eye on it though.

Cheers,

Skot


On 17/03/2015 8:12 AM, Greg Esposito gregespo73@yahoo.com [Syncro_T3_Australia] wrote:


Hi Scott, Mine has the creases, slight but they are there. They were there when I bought the van. It then had 170k on it with a wbx, stardard springs and no extra weight on the rear other than the tow bar. I have posted on that thread the week point in the chassis rail construction that leads to that syndrome. Reinforcing shouldn't be to hard especially if you are willing to sacrifice some under seat area. Vw idea of filling those voids on the inner panel was a good start but they should have gone further. I am of the opinion that heavier duty springs would help prevent this which seems to be at odds with most on the samba. Greg E
From: "spbconsulting@bigpond.com [Syncro_T3_Australia]" <Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com>
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, 16 March 2015, 22:06
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Syncro rear outer wheel arch crease to panel - anyone have one?

Hey folks,

Just wondering if anyone has one of these creases starting in the rear
sides of their van?

Check this Samba thread out:

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=526392&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=120

Interesting........ I am too scared to look at mine with my heavy 2.7L
6cyl donk plus wheel carrier etc and big wheels on board.....

Cheers,

Skot


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Hi Skot,
“Utes should be ok….” Phew…started to get worried. All good though ,ta.
Hart





On 17 Mar 2015, at 12:47 pm, spbconsulting@bigpond.com [Syncro_T3_Australia] <Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


Greg,

I tend to agree but I will be looking in that spot on all syncros from now on. Utes should be OK as the tray frame would provide extra stiffness - just the vans that are a problem - especially pop-tops (like mine).


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Hart,

You do some serious off-roading too - just driving between Port & Kempsey these days is "serious off-roading" - that road is a mess!

I think your truck would be showing signs of it by now if it was going to happen after all your towing duties.

Cheers,

Skot

On 17/03/2015 6:20 PM, Hartmut Kiehn hartis@live.com.au [Syncro_T3_Australia] wrote:
Hi Skot,
“Utes should be ok….” Phew…started to get worried. All good though ,ta.
Hart





On 17 Mar 2015, at 12:47 pm, spbconsulting@bigpond.com [Syncro_T3_Australia] <Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


Greg,

I tend to agree but I will be looking in that spot on all syncros from now on. Utes should be OK as the tray frame would provide extra stiffness - just the vans that are a problem - especially pop-tops (like mine).



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Body flex was a serious problem on T2 pop-top vans, because the roof brace was removed between the ""C" pillars when the hole was cut in the roof.

Twisting bodywork was particularly noticeable when negotiating obstacles off-road.

When you jacked up a front wheel, it was difficult to open and close the doors.

The T3 body is stronger, but it stands to reason that the problem is still there when you remove a structural member.

Has there been any suggestion of damage to tin-tops, or is it just hi-tops and pop-tops?

Cheers, Roger (Beetle) Bayley.
10
Roger,

I thinks its mainly pop tops - but these are Westfalia factory ones that just use the sliding sunroof model with the structure all still in place. The high roof models which cut out more were a particular problem.

This sort of activity wouldn't help either:



Cheers,

Skot

On 17/03/2015 11:44 PM, Roger Bayley gullyraker53@gmail.com [Syncro_T3_Australia] wrote:
Body flex was a serious problem on T2 pop-top vans, because the roof brace was removed between the ""C" pillars when the hole was cut in the roof.

Twisting bodywork was particularly noticeable when negotiating obstacles off-road.

When you jacked up a front wheel, it was difficult to open and close the doors.

The T3 body is stronger, but it stands to reason that the problem is still there when you remove a structural member.

Has there been any suggestion of damage to tin-tops, or is it just hi-tops and pop-tops?

Cheers, Roger (Beetle) Bayley.

11
If  Albert Einstein would have to comment on this idiotic activity he would have said something like this, “ Anyone who engages in an activity which could inflict injury of any sort , has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would fully suffice”

my sentiments too. Displaying power for the purpose of gaining recognition is not my thing.
Hart


On 18 Mar 2015, at 10:46 am, spbconsulting@bigpond.com [Syncro_T3_Australia] <Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


Roger,

I thinks its mainly pop tops - but these are Westfalia factory ones that just use the sliding sunroof model with the structure all still in place. The high roof models which cut out more were a particular problem.

This sort of activity wouldn't help either:

<10405479_800571476677569_7782230738807058515_n.jpg>

Cheers,

Skot

On 17/03/2015 11:44 PM, Roger Bayley gullyraker53@gmail.com [Syncro_T3_Australia] wrote:
 
Body flex was a serious problem on T2 pop-top vans, because the roof brace was removed between the ""C" pillars when the hole was cut in the roof.

Twisting bodywork was particularly noticeable when negotiating obstacles off-road.

When you jacked up a front wheel, it was difficult to open and close the doors.

The T3 body is stronger, but it stands to reason that the problem is still there when you remove a structural member.

 Has there been any suggestion of damage to tin-tops, or is it just hi-tops and pop-tops?

Cheers, Roger (Beetle) Bayley.



12
 these aircrew guys fitted steel rims on the front axle….
Hart



On 18 Mar 2015, at 10:46 am, spbconsulting@bigpond.com [Syncro_T3_Australia] <Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


Roger,

I thinks its mainly pop tops - but these are Westfalia factory ones that just use the sliding sunroof model with the structure all still in place. The high roof models which cut out more were a particular problem.

This sort of activity wouldn't help either:

<10405479_800571476677569_7782230738807058515_n.jpg>

Cheers,

Skot

On 17/03/2015 11:44 PM, Roger Bayley gullyraker53@gmail.com [Syncro_T3_Australia] wrote:
 
Body flex was a serious problem on T2 pop-top vans, because the roof brace was removed between the ""C" pillars when the hole was cut in the roof.

Twisting bodywork was particularly noticeable when negotiating obstacles off-road.

When you jacked up a front wheel, it was difficult to open and close the doors.

The T3 body is stronger, but it stands to reason that the problem is still there when you remove a structural member.

 Has there been any suggestion of damage to tin-tops, or is it just hi-tops and pop-tops?

Cheers, Roger (Beetle) Bayley.



13
I agree Hart,

They seem to need one of those VW powered aircraft - syncros were not designed for air travel!

Cheers,

Skot


On 18/03/2015 11:57 AM, Hartmut Kiehn hartis@live.com.au [Syncro_T3_Australia] wrote:

these aircrew guys fitted steel rims on the front axle….

Hart



On 18 Mar 2015, at 10:46 am, spbconsulting@bigpond.com [Syncro_T3_Australia] <Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


Roger,

I thinks its mainly pop tops - but these are Westfalia factory ones that just use the sliding sunroof model with the structure all still in place. The high roof models which cut out more were a particular problem.

This sort of activity wouldn't help either:

<10405479_800571476677569_7782230738807058515_n.jpg>

Cheers,

Skot

On 17/03/2015 11:44 PM, Roger Bayley gullyraker53@gmail.com [Syncro_T3_Australia] wrote:
Body flex was a serious problem on T2 pop-top vans, because the roof brace was removed between the ""C" pillars when the hole was cut in the roof.

Twisting bodywork was particularly noticeable when negotiating obstacles off-road.

When you jacked up a front wheel, it was difficult to open and close the doors.

The T3 body is stronger, but it stands to reason that the problem is still there when you remove a structural member.

Has there been any suggestion of damage to tin-tops, or is it just hi-tops and pop-tops?

Cheers, Roger (Beetle) Bayley.




14

Luckily my original Suncamper conversion has retained the front section of the roof back to behind the front seat. Is it the A pillar or B pillar?? My old white T3 conversion was done by Trakka and the pop top went the whole length. It used to flex a lot. Even going over gutters. The Syncro feels much stronger.

Peter from Port

15
I have a trakka high top that still retains the front brace above the drivers seat. There is a tiny bit of movement but nothing concerning for the speed we move off-road. 

On 18 Mar 2015, at 10:46 am, "spbconsulting@bigpond.com [Syncro_T3_Australia]" <Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Roger,

I thinks its mainly pop tops - but these are Westfalia factory ones that just use the sliding sunroof model with the structure all still in place. The high roof models which cut out more were a particular problem.

This sort of activity wouldn't help either:

<10405479_800571476677569_7782230738807058515_n.jpg>

Cheers,

Skot

On 17/03/2015 11:44 PM, Roger Bayley gullyraker53@gmail.com [Syncro_T3_Australia] wrote:
 
Body flex was a serious problem on T2 pop-top vans, because the roof brace was removed between the ""C" pillars when the hole was cut in the roof.

Twisting bodywork was particularly noticeable when negotiating obstacles off-road.

When you jacked up a front wheel, it was difficult to open and close the doors.

The T3 body is stronger, but it stands to reason that the problem is still there when you remove a structural member.

 Has there been any suggestion of damage to tin-tops, or is it just hi-tops and pop-tops?

Cheers, Roger (Beetle) Bayley.

16
I've seen a similar photo of a red TriStar.
17
The A pillar is each side of the windscreen. B Pillar is behind the front door. C Pillar is rear of the sliding door - the one that is cut out to make room for a pop-top.

Even though pop-tops are not as strong as tin-tops, that didn't stop Dave Berry from Trakka putting in a sterling performance in a campervan in the Wynn's Safari, back in the late 80's. I think he came about 14th, competing against highly modified off-road racers.
Roger.
18
Although that was a 16" syncro  with a stronger body.
19
I'm familiar with cut and uncut Syncro roofs. The Trakka conversion takes some getting used to after a tin top.
The body twists and protests a bit more.
However I've taken both to the extreme often by misadventure and both perform fine. It's just that the cutout roof makes more noise and probably stresses the chassis more in the long term. Don't know if I'll live long enough to see a problem. Haven't yet.

Mark
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Hi all
When we were up in Cape York in '08, Rudi's syncro had the bulge going and he advised that if you take them off road that's what happens in the 14s but the 16s have reinforcing there to prevent this happening
Cheers Paul

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---- Greg Esposito gregespo73@yahoo.com [Syncro_T3_Australia] wrote ----

 

Hi Scott, Mine has the creases, slight but they are there. They were there when I bought the van. It then had 170k on it with a wbx, stardard springs and no extra weight on the rear other than the tow bar. I have posted on that thread the week point in the chassis rail construction that leads to that syndrome. Reinforcing shouldn't be to hard especially if you are willing to sacrifice some under seat area. Vw idea of filling those voids on the inner panel was a good start but they should have gone further. I am of the opinion that heavier duty springs would help prevent this which seems to be at odds with most on the samba. Greg E
 
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To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, 16 March 2015, 22:06
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Syncro rear outer wheel arch crease to panel - anyone have one?

Hey folks,

Just wondering if anyone has one of these creases starting in the rear
sides of their van?

Check this Samba thread out:

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=526392&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=120

Interesting........ I am too scared to look at mine with my heavy 2.7L
6cyl donk plus wheel carrier etc and big wheels on board.....

Cheers,

Skot


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