Exhaust Enquiry

1
Hi All,
I have read that in the UK they boasted their 2.1 L motors had more HP than our Aussie 2.1 because they did not have a Catalytic exhaust? If this is true can I buy the standard syncro fitting exhaust in Australia today and expect more power than Im getting from my original exhaust.
Cheers David
2
Here is what I have read..
there is a version of the 2.1 waterboxer engine that is rated at 110 hp ..
and it's for non-catalytic converter markets,
has a 10 to 1 CR and has a special ECU .. and uses Digijet, not the later Digifant EFI .
and I had a change to buy one those ecu's once and didn't, dang !
 
I don't think it's at all just about the exhaust system.
and don't know if you have a Cat or not ..but a straight-through pipe there runs a little more strongly.
 
there are 'chipped' ecu's I believe.
there are ratio rocker arms ..
there are  modern-made versions of the waterboxer engine that you can get in 2.2, 2.3, 2.4, even 2.5 liters.
Probably big valve heads too.
They've been turbo-charged too.
 
whatever you can afford, and risk lower longevity or reliability with.
 
you guys got internet there ? ....just joking . 
you can google that stuff until your eyeballs fall out.
 
Here is one enhanced waterboxer engine I can actual recommend..
and this is the Only one I recommend so far..
Chris Corkin, aka tencentlife on thesamba.com ..
I installed his 'better waterboxer 2.2 with oil cooler' in a Syncro and I was very impressed.
and I seldom give very high grades on most of what I see.
Scott
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: David
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 12:17 AM
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Exhaust Enquiry

 

Hi All,
I have read that in the UK they boasted their 2.1 L motors had more HP than our Aussie 2.1 because they did not have a Catalytic exhaust? If this is true can I buy the standard syncro fitting exhaust in Australia today and expect more power than Im getting from my original exhaust.
Cheers David

3
Hi Scott,
Thanks for the interesting info. I have the standard 2.1 Litre and am only looking for a new exhaust. The straight through pipe sounds Hot. Any recommendations on such an exhaust available in Oz
Cheers Dave

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Daniel - Turbovans" <ScottDaniel@...> wrote:
>
> Here is what I have read..
> there is a version of the 2.1 waterboxer engine that is rated at 110 hp ..
> and it's for non-catalytic converter markets,
> has a 10 to 1 CR and has a special ECU .. and uses Digijet, not the later Digifant EFI .
> and I had a change to buy one those ecu's once and didn't, dang !
>
> I don't think it's at all just about the exhaust system.
> and don't know if you have a Cat or not ..but a straight-through pipe there runs a little more strongly.
>
> there are 'chipped' ecu's I believe.
> there are ratio rocker arms ..
> there are modern-made versions of the waterboxer engine that you can get in 2.2, 2.3, 2.4, even 2.5 liters.
> Probably big valve heads too.
> They've been turbo-charged too.
>
> whatever you can afford, and risk lower longevity or reliability with.
>
> you guys got internet there ? ....just joking .
> you can google that stuff until your eyeballs fall out.
>
> Here is one enhanced waterboxer engine I can actual recommend..
> and this is the Only one I recommend so far..
> Chris Corkin, aka tencentlife on thesamba.com ..
> I installed his 'better waterboxer 2.2 with oil cooler' in a Syncro and I was very impressed.
> and I seldom give very high grades on most of what I see.
> Scott
> www.turbovans.com
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: David
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 12:17 AM
> Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Exhaust Enquiry
>
>
>
> Hi All,
> I have read that in the UK they boasted their 2.1 L motors had more HP than our Aussie 2.1 because they did not have a Catalytic exhaust? If this is true can I buy the standard syncro fitting exhaust in Australia today and expect more power than Im getting from my original exhaust.
> Cheers David
>
4

David,

The MV engine runs under full-house electronic control.   The signals that control the engine come from a variety of measuring points and the ECU looks for signals within a particular range.   In some cases, getting a signal outside the range simply stops the engine.   In others, it runs roughly.   There is a very good case for using standard parts so that The ECU understands the incoming signals.

In respect of the exhaust, you might or might not pick up an extra 2% power at a certain rev band, a difference so small as the be effectively undetectable. 

And it is illegal to remove a CAT from an engine if it was originally certified as ADR compliant with a CAT.

Les

From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com [mailto: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of David
Sent: 21 September 2011 18:12
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Exhaust Enquiry

 

Hi Scott,
Thanks for the interesting info. I have the standard 2.1 Litre and am only looking for a new exhaust. The straight through pipe sounds Hot. Any recommendations on such an exhaust available in Oz
Cheers Dave


5

The performance gain on a 2.1 mv code engine with a different exhaust is all but marginal,I am quoting oettinger   and tend to believe their  results    the SS coded 2.1 is 110hp          built many 2.1’s with the 10.1 piston set with a oettinger grind cam  with stock exhaust and injection system which developed 122hp....these conversions benefitted with an extra oil cooler to reduce oil consumption and worked very well.  The danger with ratio rockers on a standard cam profile is ramp speed with a possible lifter failures and  increased valve guide wear.....but once sorted is a good increase in power too.

The standard pipe work on the 2.1 engine is that good Oettinger recommended to keep it stock on their 2.5 conversions  too  cheers steve

From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of David
Sent: Wednesday, 21 September 2011 6:12 PM
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Exhaust Enquiry

 

 

Hi Scott,
Thanks for the interesting info. I have the standard 2.1 Litre and am only looking for a new exhaust. The straight through pipe sounds Hot. Any recommendations on such an exhaust available in Oz
Cheers Dave

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Daniel - Turbovans" <ScottDaniel@...> wrote:
>
> Here is what I have read..
> there is a version of the 2.1 waterboxer engine that is rated at 110 hp ..
> and it's for non-catalytic converter markets,
> has a 10 to 1 CR and has a special ECU .. and uses Digijet, not the later Digifant EFI .
> and I had a change to buy one those ecu's once and didn't, dang !
>
> I don't think it's at all just about the exhaust system.
> and don't know if you have a Cat or not ..but a straight-through pipe there runs a little more strongly.
>
> there are 'chipped' ecu's I believe.
> there are ratio rocker arms ..
> there are modern-made versions of the waterboxer engine that you can get in 2.2, 2.3, 2.4, even 2.5 liters.
> Probably big valve heads too.
> They've been turbo-charged too.
>
> whatever you can afford, and risk lower longevity or reliability with.
>
> you guys got internet there ? ....just joking .
> you can google that stuff until your eyeballs fall out.
>
> Here is one enhanced waterboxer engine I can actual recommend..
> and this is the Only one I recommend so far..
> Chris Corkin, aka tencentlife on thesamba.com ..
> I installed his 'better waterboxer 2.2 with oil cooler' in a Syncro and I was very impressed.
> and I seldom give very high grades on most of what I see.
> Scott
> www.turbovans.com
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: David
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 12:17 AM
> Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Exhaust Enquiry
>
>
>
> Hi All,
> I have read that in the UK they boasted their 2.1 L motors had more HP than our Aussie 2.1 because they did not have a Catalytic exhaust? If this is true can I buy the standard syncro fitting exhaust in Australia today and expect more power than Im getting from my original exhaust.
> Cheers David
>

6
Hi Les,

What a fascinating machine we share. Do you know if the exhaust they sell through Just Kampers has the CAT in the silencer part, as it appears to be different in appearance to mine regarding the silencer section, and doesnt have the CAT on it at all? Or am I meant to keep the original CAT when I renew the exhaust for the rest of the vans days?

Cheers Dave

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Les Harris" <leslieharris@...> wrote:
>
> David,
>
> The MV engine runs under full-house electronic control. The signals that
> control the engine come from a variety of measuring points and the ECU looks
> for signals within a particular range. In some cases, getting a signal
> outside the range simply stops the engine. In others, it runs roughly.
> There is a very good case for using standard parts so that The ECU
> understands the incoming signals.
>
> In respect of the exhaust, you might or might not pick up an extra 2% power
> at a certain rev band, a difference so small as the be effectively
> undetectable.
>
> And it is illegal to remove a CAT from an engine if it was originally
> certified as ADR compliant with a CAT.
>
> Les
>
> _____
>
> From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of David
> Sent: 21 September 2011 18:12
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Exhaust Enquiry
>
>
>
> Hi Scott,
> Thanks for the interesting info. I have the standard 2.1 Litre and am only
> looking for a new exhaust. The straight through pipe sounds Hot. Any
> recommendations on such an exhaust available in Oz
> Cheers Dave
>
7
Removing the cat will make no difference at all.

and where will you put your O2 sensor.



> David <davidleibmann@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>
> Hi Scott,
> Thanks for the interesting info. I have the standard 2.1 Litre and am
> only looking for a new exhaust. The straight through pipe sounds Hot.
> Any recommendations on such an exhaust available in Oz
> Cheers Dave
>
8
Hi Stephen, Scott Daniels has given his thumbs up to Chris Corkin's 2.2 wbx .I'ld like to know what you think about it and also what you. think about the exhaust system he has developed . Thanks Eddie Bergodaz.

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Stephen Muller - Kombi Rescue" <stephenmuller@...> wrote:
>
> The performance gain on a 2.1 mv code engine with a different exhaust is all
> but marginal,I am quoting oettinger and tend to believe their results
> the SS coded 2.1 is 110hp built many 2.1's with the 10.1 piston set
> with a oettinger grind cam with stock exhaust and injection system which
> developed 122hp....these conversions benefitted with an extra oil cooler to
> reduce oil consumption and worked very well. The danger with ratio rockers
> on a standard cam profile is ramp speed with a possible lifter failures and
> increased valve guide wear.....but once sorted is a good increase in power
> too.
>
> The standard pipe work on the 2.1 engine is that good Oettinger recommended
> to keep it stock on their 2.5 conversions too cheers steve
>
> From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of David
> Sent: Wednesday, 21 September 2011 6:12 PM
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Exhaust Enquiry
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi Scott,
> Thanks for the interesting info. I have the standard 2.1 Litre and am only
> looking for a new exhaust. The straight through pipe sounds Hot. Any
> recommendations on such an exhaust available in Oz
> Cheers Dave
>
> --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com> , "Scott Daniel - Turbovans"
> <ScottDaniel@> wrote:
> >
> > Here is what I have read..
> > there is a version of the 2.1 waterboxer engine that is rated at 110 hp ..
> > and it's for non-catalytic converter markets,
> > has a 10 to 1 CR and has a special ECU .. and uses Digijet, not the later
> Digifant EFI .
> > and I had a change to buy one those ecu's once and didn't, dang !
> >
> > I don't think it's at all just about the exhaust system.
> > and don't know if you have a Cat or not ..but a straight-through pipe
> there runs a little more strongly.
> >
> > there are 'chipped' ecu's I believe.
> > there are ratio rocker arms ..
> > there are modern-made versions of the waterboxer engine that you can get
> in 2.2, 2.3, 2.4, even 2.5 liters.
> > Probably big valve heads too.
> > They've been turbo-charged too.
> >
> > whatever you can afford, and risk lower longevity or reliability with.
> >
> > you guys got internet there ? ....just joking .
> > you can google that stuff until your eyeballs fall out.
> >
> > Here is one enhanced waterboxer engine I can actual recommend..
> > and this is the Only one I recommend so far..
> > Chris Corkin, aka tencentlife on thesamba.com ..
> > I installed his 'better waterboxer 2.2 with oil cooler' in a Syncro and I
> was very impressed.
> > and I seldom give very high grades on most of what I see.
> > Scott
> > www.turbovans.com
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: David
> > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 12:17 AM
> > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Exhaust Enquiry
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi All,
> > I have read that in the UK they boasted their 2.1 L motors had more HP
> than our Aussie 2.1 because they did not have a Catalytic exhaust? If this
> is true can I buy the standard syncro fitting exhaust in Australia today and
> expect more power than Im getting from my original exhaust.
> > Cheers David
> >
>
9
David. I received my new muffler from just kampers yesterday and it is way too long. Looks as if it was for a van without the cat. Bill

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "David" <davidleibmann@...> wrote:
>
>
> Hi Les,
>
> What a fascinating machine we share. Do you know if the exhaust they sell through Just Kampers has the CAT in the silencer part, as it appears to be different in appearance to mine regarding the silencer section, and doesnt have the CAT on it at all? Or am I meant to keep the original CAT when I renew the exhaust for the rest of the vans days?
>
> Cheers Dave
>
> --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Les Harris" <leslieharris@> wrote:
> >
> > David,
> >
> > The MV engine runs under full-house electronic control. The signals that
> > control the engine come from a variety of measuring points and the ECU looks
> > for signals within a particular range. In some cases, getting a signal
> > outside the range simply stops the engine. In others, it runs roughly.
> > There is a very good case for using standard parts so that The ECU
> > understands the incoming signals.
> >
> > In respect of the exhaust, you might or might not pick up an extra 2% power
> > at a certain rev band, a difference so small as the be effectively
> > undetectable.
> >
> > And it is illegal to remove a CAT from an engine if it was originally
> > certified as ADR compliant with a CAT.
> >
> > Les
> >
> > _____
> >
> > From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of David
> > Sent: 21 September 2011 18:12
> > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Exhaust Enquiry
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Scott,
> > Thanks for the interesting info. I have the standard 2.1 Litre and am only
> > looking for a new exhaust. The straight through pipe sounds Hot. Any
> > recommendations on such an exhaust available in Oz
> > Cheers Dave
> >
>
10
Hi Bill,

Im interested to know what you are going to do with the new exhaust from JK. Does it have the sensor part for the digijet on it? Do you think it will work on the Syncro? I believe you will get a get more power with a straight through silencer, as the CAT can only act as resistance.

Cheers Dave



--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Bill" <marg_bill@...> wrote:
>
> David. I received my new muffler from just kampers yesterday and it is way too long. Looks as if it was for a van without the cat. Bill
>
> --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "David" <davidleibmann@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hi Les,
> >
> > What a fascinating machine we share. Do you know if the exhaust they sell through Just Kampers has the CAT in the silencer part, as it appears to be different in appearance to mine regarding the silencer section, and doesnt have the CAT on it at all? Or am I meant to keep the original CAT when I renew the exhaust for the rest of the vans days?
> >
> > Cheers Dave
> >
> > --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Les Harris" <leslieharris@> wrote:
> > >
> > > David,
> > >
> > > The MV engine runs under full-house electronic control. The signals that
> > > control the engine come from a variety of measuring points and the ECU looks
> > > for signals within a particular range. In some cases, getting a signal
> > > outside the range simply stops the engine. In others, it runs roughly.
> > > There is a very good case for using standard parts so that The ECU
> > > understands the incoming signals.
> > >
> > > In respect of the exhaust, you might or might not pick up an extra 2% power
> > > at a certain rev band, a difference so small as the be effectively
> > > undetectable.
> > >
> > > And it is illegal to remove a CAT from an engine if it was originally
> > > certified as ADR compliant with a CAT.
> > >
> > > Les
> > >
> > > _____
> > >
> > > From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > > [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of David
> > > Sent: 21 September 2011 18:12
> > > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Exhaust Enquiry
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Scott,
> > > Thanks for the interesting info. I have the standard 2.1 Litre and am only
> > > looking for a new exhaust. The straight through pipe sounds Hot. Any
> > > recommendations on such an exhaust available in Oz
> > > Cheers Dave
> > >
> >
>
11

Dave,

The only thing that you can reliably believe is the numbers on the dynamometer scale and preferably when your brother is driving the dyno.

The aftermarket is notorious for supplying performance enhancing parts that actually give less power, as determined by an independent run on the dyno.

What most aftermarket exhaust pipes deliver is more noise, whereupon the owner says to himself “Cheese, that must be at least another 500HP.”

Les

 

 

From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com [mailto: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of David
Sent: 22 September 2011 13:49
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Exhaust Enquiry


Hi Bill,

Im interested to know what you are going to do with the new exhaust from JK. Does it have the sensor part for the digijet on it? Do you think it will work on the Syncro? I believe you will get a get more power with a straight through silencer, as the CAT can only act as resistance.

Cheers Dave

__

12
Dave. I'm going to fit it with cat in place. The tail pipe will need to be shortened or it will stick out the side. No there is no provision for oxygen sensor. Bill

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "David" <davidleibmann@...> wrote:
>
>
> Hi Bill,
>
> Im interested to know what you are going to do with the new exhaust from JK. Does it have the sensor part for the digijet on it? Do you think it will work on the Syncro? I believe you will get a get more power with a straight through silencer, as the CAT can only act as resistance.
>
> Cheers Dave
>
>
>
> --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Bill" <marg_bill@> wrote:
> >
> > David. I received my new muffler from just kampers yesterday and it is way too long. Looks as if it was for a van without the cat. Bill
> >
> > --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "David" <davidleibmann@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Les,
> > >
> > > What a fascinating machine we share. Do you know if the exhaust they sell through Just Kampers has the CAT in the silencer part, as it appears to be different in appearance to mine regarding the silencer section, and doesnt have the CAT on it at all? Or am I meant to keep the original CAT when I renew the exhaust for the rest of the vans days?
> > >
> > > Cheers Dave
> > >
> > > --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Les Harris" <leslieharris@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > David,
> > > >
> > > > The MV engine runs under full-house electronic control. The signals that
> > > > control the engine come from a variety of measuring points and the ECU looks
> > > > for signals within a particular range. In some cases, getting a signal
> > > > outside the range simply stops the engine. In others, it runs roughly.
> > > > There is a very good case for using standard parts so that The ECU
> > > > understands the incoming signals.
> > > >
> > > > In respect of the exhaust, you might or might not pick up an extra 2% power
> > > > at a certain rev band, a difference so small as the be effectively
> > > > undetectable.
> > > >
> > > > And it is illegal to remove a CAT from an engine if it was originally
> > > > certified as ADR compliant with a CAT.
> > > >
> > > > Les
> > > >
> > > > _____
> > > >
> > > > From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > > > [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of David
> > > > Sent: 21 September 2011 18:12
> > > > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Exhaust Enquiry
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi Scott,
> > > > Thanks for the interesting info. I have the standard 2.1 Litre and am only
> > > > looking for a new exhaust. The straight through pipe sounds Hot. Any
> > > > recommendations on such an exhaust available in Oz
> > > > Cheers Dave
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
13
Digijet does not have a sensor.

There will be no more power.

JK will give you a refund.



> David <davidleibmann@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>
>
> Hi Bill,
>
> Im interested to know what you are going to do with the new exhaust from
> JK. Does it have the sensor part for the digijet on it? Do you think it
> will work on the Syncro? I believe you will get a get more power with a
> straight through silencer, as the CAT can only act as resistance.
>
> Cheers Dave
>
>
>
> --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Bill" <marg_bill@...>
> wrote:
> >
> > David. I received my new muffler from just kampers yesterday and it is
> way too long. Looks as if it was for a van without the cat. Bill
> >
> > --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "David" <davidleibmann@>
> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Les,
> > >
> > > What a fascinating machine we share. Do you know if the exhaust they
> sell through Just Kampers has the CAT in the silencer part, as it
> appears to be different in appearance to mine regarding the silencer
> section, and doesnt have the CAT on it at all? Or am I meant to keep the
> original CAT when I renew the exhaust for the rest of the vans days?
> > >
> > > Cheers Dave
> > >
> > > --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Les Harris"
> <leslieharris@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > David,
> > > >
> > > > The MV engine runs under full-house electronic control. The
> signals that
> > > > control the engine come from a variety of measuring points and the
> ECU looks
> > > > for signals within a particular range. In some cases, getting a
> signal
> > > > outside the range simply stops the engine. In others, it runs
> roughly.
> > > > There is a very good case for using standard parts so that The ECU
> > > > understands the incoming signals.
> > > >
> > > > In respect of the exhaust, you might or might not pick up an extra
> 2% power
> > > > at a certain rev band, a difference so small as the be effectively
> > > > undetectable.
> > > >
> > > > And it is illegal to remove a CAT from an engine if it was
> originally
> > > > certified as ADR compliant with a CAT.
> > > >
> > > > Les
> > > >
> > > > _____
> > > >
> > > > From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > > > [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of David
> > > > Sent: 21 September 2011 18:12
> > > > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Exhaust Enquiry
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi Scott,
> > > > Thanks for the interesting info. I have the standard 2.1 Litre and
> am only
> > > > looking for a new exhaust. The straight through pipe sounds Hot.
> Any
> > > > recommendations on such an exhaust available in Oz
> > > > Cheers Dave
> > > >
> > >
> >
14
Can anyone tell me where to source a complete syncro exhaust for my 2.1 L (MV). Also Im after the 2 brackets that mount behind the motor and hold the silencer straps as they have both cracked. I believe they are slightly larger than the standard 2WD. The exhaust has vibrated at low revs ever since I bought it a couple of months ago and Ive tried everything, anyone had similar exhaust issues.
Cheers Dave
15
David,give Just Kampers ago.
I did an order today of a few things,will get it tomorrow.
Ring them,I paid less than what is advertised on the site.Great service.
http://www.justkampersaustralia.com/shop/t3/original-parts/exhaust
BenC

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "David" <davidleibmann@...> wrote:
>
> Can anyone tell me where to source a complete syncro exhaust for my 2.1 L (MV). Also Im after the 2 brackets that mount behind the motor and hold the silencer straps as they have both cracked. I believe they are slightly larger than the standard 2WD. The exhaust has vibrated at low revs ever since I bought it a couple of months ago and Ive tried everything, anyone had similar exhaust issues.
> Cheers Dave
>
16

Dave,

When assembling the exhaust system, it is essential to loosely assemble everything then progressively tighten each joint whilst simultaneously checking that everything aligns, particularly the muffler cradles.   My exhaust system was flung together by a workshop that didn’t do that.   The end result as a pulled stud in a cylinder head and the muffler cut through because it didn’t align with the cradles.

Les

 

From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com [mailto: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of David
Sent: 08 November 2011 17:08
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Exhaust Enquiry

 

Can anyone tell me where to source a complete syncro exhaust for my 2.1 L (MV). Also Im after the 2 brackets that mount behind the motor and hold the silencer straps as they have both cracked. I believe they are slightly larger than the standard 2WD. The exhaust has vibrated at low revs ever since I bought it a couple of months ago and Ive tried everything, anyone had similar exhaust issues.
Cheers Dave

17
Hi Les,
I bought an exhaust fitting kit and replaced everything from the pipe before the CAT down but only slight improvement . Ill loosen it all off tomorrow and see if I can do any better.
Thanks Dave


--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Les Harris" <leslieharris@...> wrote:
>
> Dave,
>
> When assembling the exhaust system, it is essential to loosely assemble
> everything then progressively tighten each joint whilst simultaneously
> checking that everything aligns, particularly the muffler cradles. My
> exhaust system was flung together by a workshop that didn't do that. The
> end result as a pulled stud in a cylinder head and the muffler cut through
> because it didn't align with the cradles.
>
> Les
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of David
> Sent: 08 November 2011 17:08
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Exhaust Enquiry
>
>
>
> Can anyone tell me where to source a complete syncro exhaust for my 2.1 L
> (MV). Also Im after the 2 brackets that mount behind the motor and hold the
> silencer straps as they have both cracked. I believe they are slightly
> larger than the standard 2WD. The exhaust has vibrated at low revs ever
> since I bought it a couple of months ago and Ive tried everything, anyone
> had similar exhaust issues.
> Cheers Dave
>
18
Hi Ben,
Dont like to disappoint you but I think JK only sell exhausts for engines that dont have a CAT. If you have a CAT and fuel injection then youll be returning it. Maybe Im wrong?
Cheers Dave

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Ben" <bencroft96@...> wrote:
>
> David,give Just Kampers ago.
> I did an order today of a few things,will get it tomorrow.
> Ring them,I paid less than what is advertised on the site.Great service.
> http://www.justkampersaustralia.com/shop/t3/original-parts/exhaust
> BenC
>
> --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "David" <davidleibmann@> wrote:
> >
> > Can anyone tell me where to source a complete syncro exhaust for my 2.1 L (MV). Also Im after the 2 brackets that mount behind the motor and hold the silencer straps as they have both cracked. I believe they are slightly larger than the standard 2WD. The exhaust has vibrated at low revs ever since I bought it a couple of months ago and Ive tried everything, anyone had similar exhaust issues.
> > Cheers Dave
> >
>
19
David,no I didnt order an exhaust.
I have one from here.
http://www.smallcar.com/index.php?dispatch=categories.view&category_id=172

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "David" <davidleibmann@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Ben,
> Dont like to disappoint you but I think JK only sell exhausts for engines that dont have a CAT. If you have a CAT and fuel injection then youll be returning it. Maybe Im wrong?
> Cheers Dave
>
> --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Ben" <bencroft96@> wrote:
> >
> > David,give Just Kampers ago.
> > I did an order today of a few things,will get it tomorrow.
> > Ring them,I paid less than what is advertised on the site.Great service.
> > http://www.justkampersaustralia.com/shop/t3/original-parts/exhaust
> > BenC
> >
> > --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "David" <davidleibmann@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Can anyone tell me where to source a complete syncro exhaust for my 2.1 L (MV). Also Im after the 2 brackets that mount behind the motor and hold the silencer straps as they have both cracked. I believe they are slightly larger than the standard 2WD. The exhaust has vibrated at low revs ever since I bought it a couple of months ago and Ive tried everything, anyone had similar exhaust issues.
> > > Cheers Dave
> > >
> >
>
20
Just be careful of that with JK. Ring first.



> David <davidleibmann@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>
> Hi Ben,
> Dont like to disappoint you but I think JK only sell exhausts for
> engines that dont have a CAT. If you have a CAT and fuel injection then
> youll be returning it. Maybe Im wrong?
> Cheers Dave
>
> --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Ben" <bencroft96@...>
> wrote:
> >
> > David,give Just Kampers ago.
> > I did an order today of a few things,will get it tomorrow.
> > Ring them,I paid less than what is advertised on the site.Great
> service.
> > http://www.justkampersaustralia.com/shop/t3/original-parts/exhaust
> > BenC
> >
> > --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "David" <davidleibmann@>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Can anyone tell me where to source a complete syncro exhaust for my
> 2.1 L (MV). Also Im after the 2 brackets that mount behind the motor and
> hold the silencer straps as they have both cracked. I believe they are
> slightly larger than the standard 2WD. The exhaust has vibrated at low
> revs ever since I bought it a couple of months ago and Ive tried
> everything, anyone had similar exhaust issues.
> > > Cheers Dave
> > >
> >