Extra fuel tank

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Hi everyone,
Has anyone been down the track of an auxillary fuel tank for a T3 Syncro. I'm thinking underneath the floor behind the driver. I went to an outfit who builds and installs tanks and said he could put an 80Lit tank in that space. The tricky bit would be the transfer connection to the existing tank.Anyone got any thoughts?
Could I still use the existing filler for both tanks?
Thanks, Gerald.
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Gerald,

My dad put one of these into his syncro (on the passenger side though - but I dont think that really matters.

He had no gauge on it but ran another pump into the fuel line from the main tank and put a non return valve on it.

That way when the van was off he could switch the ignition on and pump the fuel from the Aux tank into the main tank.

It worked fine and he had it in use for at least 10 years.

Cheers,

Skot

On 15/08/2013 8:22 AM, geraldandrobyn wrote:
 

Hi everyone,
Has anyone been down the track of an auxillary fuel tank for a T3 Syncro. I'm thinking underneath the floor behind the driver. I went to an outfit who builds and installs tanks and said he could put an 80Lit tank in that space. The tricky bit would be the transfer connection to the existing tank.Anyone got any thoughts?
Could I still use the existing filler for both tanks?
Thanks, Gerald.


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Gerald,

I forgot to mention that my Dad also put a 2wd filler point in its standard location (not an easy task due to very detail cutting required to make the odd shaped partly round hole). The filler has its breather which Dad routed under the chassis and over to the tank on the passenger side. This was not great as filling the tank was not that easy but doable and it served him well.


Cheers,

Skot

On 15/08/2013 8:22 AM, geraldandrobyn wrote:
 

Hi everyone,
Has anyone been down the track of an auxillary fuel tank for a T3 Syncro. I'm thinking underneath the floor behind the driver. I went to an outfit who builds and installs tanks and said he could put an 80Lit tank in that space. The tricky bit would be the transfer connection to the existing tank.Anyone got any thoughts?
Could I still use the existing filler for both tanks?
Thanks, Gerald.


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Dear All,
We fitted belly tanks to my 1982 Porsche powered T3 and at the same time cut the bottom of the original tank and extended it down wards to increase it's capacity. These modifications were a great boon, Sydney to Melbourne non stop.
Total capacity c. 140 litres.
The belly tanks are plumbed to the main tank and fill from it and empty into it.

But when it came to our Syncro, we gave up.
The potential of off road damage to belly tanks was too risky for me having once bent the scrape bars underneath.
The other problem is the position of the Syncro tank, in the rear.
Skot's dad's solution of filling from a single belly tank is probably the only way of connecting them.

I have had the idea of removing the spare wheel and installing a tank in it's place.
It would be protected by the skid plate which the spare normally sits on, but the thought of having a tank right under my feet, immediately under the hole where the gear lever sits, is a bit of a turn off.

A solution to this could be to find a racing car tank manufacturer and ask them to custom make one to fit this space, taking into consideration the fact that the gear shift mechanism projects down and would have to be free to move.
Racing car tanks are built to high standards for safety, and if a fire extinguisher system from a similar source could be fitted my concerns would be reduced.
You could link it to two wheel drive filler hardware, and Scot's dad's pump to top up the main tank.

It's only an idea, but I always plan on my Syncro doing 400 to 460 Ks safely on a single tank and thats not far enough in Australia when you consider how far apart some service stations can be.
I don't like carrying jerry cans inside and the idea of two full cans hanging over my rear bumper is not attractive.

Hope this helps the discussion.
If anyone can solve the problem it would be great to hear about it.

Peter







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From: spbconsulting@bigpond.com
Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2013 08:50:41 +1000



Gerald,

My dad put one of these into his syncro (on the passenger side though - but I dont think that really matters.

He had no gauge on it but ran another pump into the fuel line from the main tank and put a non return valve on it.

That way when the van was off he could switch the ignition on and pump the fuel from the Aux tank into the main tank.

It worked fine and he had it in use for at least 10 years.

Cheers,

Skot

On 15/08/2013 8:22 AM, geraldandrobyn wrote:



Hi everyone,
Has anyone been down the track of an auxillary fuel tank for a T3 Syncro. I'm thinking underneath the floor behind the driver. I went to an outfit who builds and installs tanks and said he could put an 80Lit tank in that space. The tricky bit would be the transfer connection to the existing tank.Anyone got any thoughts?
Could I still use the existing filler for both tanks?
Thanks, Gerald.
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Gerald. A previous owner installed a 40l aux tank between the rails behind the driver with a transfer pump and it works very well. To balance the whole show a same size water tank is behind the passenger. As scotts dad did they used the 2wd blank filler space for the filler cap. The major stuff up in mine was to cut a hole in the chassis to get the filler pipe to aux tank and went straight through the stamped chassis no nesessitting all sorts of dramas getting a new number. Bill
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Thanks Skot, Peter and Bill. Great information. I'm a Libran so putting a water tank on the passenger side for balance goes without saying.Bill, thanks for the heads up about the stamp on the chassis.
Cheers, Gerald

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Bill" <marg_bill@...> wrote:
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> Gerald. A previous owner installed a 40l aux tank between the rails behind the driver with a transfer pump and it works very well. To balance the whole show a same size water tank is behind the passenger. As scotts dad did they used the 2wd blank filler space for the filler cap. The major stuff up in mine was to cut a hole in the chassis to get the filler pipe to aux tank and went straight through the stamped chassis no nesessitting all sorts of dramas getting a new number. Bill
>
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Trakka had the option of twin water tanks or water tank and fuel tank.
About 55litres each side underneath. Ground clearance is good, Aux fuel is flicked over
on the fly and works on the same fuel gauge. Total range about 750km. Fills through
2wd filler at the front.
Doubt they would fit a 20 year old vehicle, but it can be done.

Or carry a couple of jerrys on the back, needs a swing away fuel carrier for that ...

Mark

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "geraldandrobyn" <geraldandrobyn@...> wrote:
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> Thanks Skot, Peter and Bill. Great information. I'm a Libran so putting a water tank on the passenger side for balance goes without saying.Bill, thanks for the heads up about the stamp on the chassis.
> Cheers, Gerald
>
> --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Bill" <marg_bill@> wrote:
> >
> > Gerald. A previous owner installed a 40l aux tank between the rails behind the driver with a transfer pump and it works very well. To balance the whole show a same size water tank is behind the passenger. As scotts dad did they used the 2wd blank filler space for the filler cap. The major stuff up in mine was to cut a hole in the chassis to get the filler pipe to aux tank and went straight through the stamped chassis no nesessitting all sorts of dramas getting a new number. Bill
> >
>
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I manufacture stainless auxiliary fuel and water tanks here in SA and have sent over quite a few to the States. If you are interested I can send you more details and some pics.
 
Ian
 
 
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I would be interested! 

Regards,
Jens



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Am 16.08.2013 um 18:13 schrieb Ian Fairley <ian@ianfairley.com>:

 

I manufacture stainless auxiliary fuel and water tanks here in SA and have sent over quite a few to the States. If you are interested I can send you more details and some pics.
 
Ian
 
 

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Yes please.

Thanks,

Skot

On 16/08/2013 6:13 PM, Ian Fairley wrote:
 

I manufacture stainless auxiliary fuel and water tanks here in SA and have sent over quite a few to the States. If you are interested I can send you more details and some pics.
 
Ian
 
 

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Yes, Very interested. Thanks Ian.

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Ian Fairley" <ian@...> wrote:
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> I manufacture stainless auxiliary fuel and water tanks here in SA and have sent over quite a few to the States. If you are interested I can send you more details and some pics.
>
> Ian
>
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I too am interested.

On 16/08/2013 6:14 PM, "Ian Fairley" <ian@ianfairley.com> wrote:

I manufacture stainless auxiliary fuel and water tanks here in SA and have sent over quite a few to the States. If you are interested I can send you more details and some pics.
Ian
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Could you send me some info to Ian.
Roger Bayley

In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Ian Fairley" <ian@...> wrote:
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> I manufacture stainless auxiliary fuel and water tanks here in SA and have sent over quite a few to the States. If you are interested I can send you more details and some pics.
>
> Ian
>