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Bruce,
mmmm  ...... better follow Fly Buy Kevs and "honest" Johnny Howards advice for seniors .... get back to work!
 
Goto: http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Stratos-sport-bucket-seat_W0QQitemZ150407057723QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_Car_Parts_Accessories?hash=item2304f5913b
That colour would go nicely with your van. Just a short stroll to the west coast.
 
Cheers.
Ken

 
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
From: royalb@aapt.net.au
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 09:23:34 +1000
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Air-conditioning

 
HAPPY AUSTRALIA DAY TO ALL  ☺

Happy to be a member of the SCASIG. At this stage it looks like I definitely need a new compressor and maybe a few other things as well as an extra condenser. The Sanden SD7H15 compressor was only 8 years old but it is totally kaput. 

I think we may be going back to a spray bottle filled with water and forget about air-con!!

Not only that the backside collapsed on my 18 year old after-market Stratos drivers seat the other day. A new one is $850 so hopefully it can be repaired. Probably can't complain about $850 though, I think they were about $600 each in 1992.

That's life with an elderly Syncro

Bruce


On 23/01/2010, at 11:37 PM, Ken Garratt wrote:

 

Bruce,
Welcome aboard the SCASIG (Syncro Cactus Air-con Special Interest Group), always looking for new recruits.
Is your compressor an oldish Sanden model? Mine is and I've been warned off them and reconditioning them is not a viable option.
 
Older compressors like the Sanden in my Prestige system have "flared" connectors on the refrigerant lines, apparently all new compressors now have "O" ring connectors, meaning not only do you have to buy a new type compressor, you also have to decide how to best connect your old "flared" connector refrigerant lines to the newer "O" ring compressor connectors. As Malcolm Frazer once said, (pants up I think), "life wasn't meant to be easy!"
 
That's the stumbling block I'm still mulling over ... either just add adaptors to both lines or get the refrigerant hose connectors changed over to "O" ring type connectors so as to avoid adding adaptors (meaning more connections to leak and also messier in an already congested engine bay).
 
That's just stage one. Then there's other things probably would be astute to replace at the same time like TX valve and Receiver-Drier and get the system properly flushed of contaminants, debris. You don't want to contaminate the new compressor. Yurik is the expert on this if you have questions, I'm simply facing a similar problem to yours and trying to work through the minefield. Of course, throwing wads of cash at it can solve the problem.
 
I'd be very interested to hear any feedback from you as to how you proceed with the air-con fix ok, if you proceed. Thanks.
Cheers.
Ken.
 
 




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Bruce, Ken et al

I am also a twice member of SCASIG. Lost the compressor, on way into Canberra on our way to DOTVW in Meblourne inNov, as Hart can vividly remember when he saw the rubber belt smoke pouring out the back.

Repair costs:

New Sanden SD7H15 $457
Remote/Replace Compressor/Fix Mounting/Fit new belt, Replace fuse etc - $160
regas - $140

So yes, about $800 bucks. But today, with about 40 deg here, it was still blowing nice cold air. Now that I've said that it will prob pack it in tomorrow (!)

Mark.

On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 10:23 AM, Alison & Bruce Black <royalb@aapt.net.au> wrote:

HAPPY AUSTRALIA DAY TO ALL ☺

Happy to be a member of the SCASIG. At this stage it looks like I definitely need a new compressor and maybe a few other things as well as an extra condenser. The Sanden SD7H15 compressor was only 8 years old but it is totally kaput.

I think we may be going back to a spray bottle filled with water and forget about air-con!!

Not only that the backside collapsed on my 18 year old after-market Stratos drivers seat the other day. A new one is $850 so hopefully it can be repaired. Probably can't complain about $850 though, I think they were about $600 each in 1992.

That's life with an elderly Syncro

Bruce



On 23/01/2010, at 11:37 PM, Ken Garratt wrote:

Bruce,
Welcome aboard the SCASIG (Syncro Cactus Air-con Special Interest Group), always looking for new recruits.
Is your compressor an oldish Sanden model? Mine is and I've been warned off them and reconditioning them is not a viable option.

Older compressors like the Sanden in my Prestige system have "flared" connectors on the refrigerant lines, apparently all new compressors now have "O" ring connectors, meaning not only do you have to buy a new type compressor, you also have to decide how to best connect your old "flared" connector refrigerant lines to the newer "O" ring compressor connectors. As Malcolm Frazer once said, (pants up I think), "life wasn't meant to be easy!"

That's the stumbling block I'm still mulling over ... either just add adaptors to both lines or get the refrigerant hose connectors changed over to "O" ring type connectors so as to avoid adding adaptors (meaning more connections to leak and also messier in an already congested engine bay).

That's just stage one. Then there's other things probably would be astute to replace at the same time like TX valve and Receiver-Drier and get the system properly flushed of contaminants, debris. You don't want to contaminate the new compressor. Yurik is the expert on this if you have questions, I'm simply facing a similar problem to yours and trying to work through the minefield. Of course, throwing wads of cash at it can solve the problem.

I'd be very interested to hear any feedback from you as to how you proceed with the air-con fix ok, if you proceed. Thanks.
Cheers.
Ken.




23

Hi all fellow syncro A/C owners.
 
I did a pop top conversion about a year ago and gave my roof mounted or overhead A/C system to my old man to install. He just couldn't be bothered with it and hence I am offering it for free to anyone who wants it. Note it does not include the condenser, compressor, drier and the hoses that go between the drier bottle and the condenser or the condenser and the compressor.
 
Pick up only.
 
It is dismantled ready to go in excellent working condition and I have photos to assist installation if someone wants it.
 
If not it will go to the tip.
 
The bits are located @ my old man's place in Narrabeen.
 
Cheers,
 
Scott
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 10:05 PM
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Air-conditioning

 

Bruce, Ken et al

I am also a twice member of SCASIG. Lost the compressor, on way into Canberra on our way to DOTVW in Meblourne inNov,  as Hart can vividly remember when he saw the rubber belt smoke pouring out the back.

Repair costs:

New Sanden SD7H15 $457
Remote/Replace Compressor/Fix Mounting/Fit new belt, Replace fuse etc - $160
regas - $140

So yes, about $800 bucks. But today, with about 40 deg here, it was still blowing nice cold air. Now that I've said that it will prob pack it in tomorrow (!)

Mark.

On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 10:23 AM, Alison & Bruce Black <royalb@aapt. net.au> wrote:
 

HAPPY AUSTRALIA DAY TO ALL  ☺

Happy to be a member of the SCASIG. At this stage it looks like I definitely need a new compressor and maybe a few other things as well as an extra condenser. The Sanden SD7H15 compressor was only 8 years old but it is totally kaput. 

I think we may be going back to a spray bottle filled with water and forget about air-con!!

Not only that the backside collapsed on my 18 year old after-market Stratos drivers seat the other day. A new one is $850 so hopefully it can be repaired. Probably can't complain about $850 though, I think they were about $600 each in 1992.

That's life with an elderly Syncro

Bruce



On 23/01/2010, at 11:37 PM, Ken Garratt wrote:

 

Bruce,
Welcome aboard the SCASIG (Syncro Cactus Air-con Special Interest Group), always looking for new recruits.
Is your compressor an oldish Sanden model? Mine is and I've been warned off them and reconditioning them is not a viable option.
 
Older compressors like the Sanden in my Prestige system have "flared" connectors on the refrigerant lines, apparently all new compressors now have "O" ring connectors, meaning not only do you have to buy a new type compressor, you also have to decide how to best connect your old "flared" connector refrigerant lines to the newer "O" ring compressor connectors. As Malcolm Frazer once said, (pants up I think), "life wasn't meant to be easy!"
 
That's the stumbling block I'm still mulling over ... either just add adaptors to both lines or get the refrigerant hose connectors changed over to "O" ring type connectors so as to avoid adding adaptors (meaning more connections to leak and also messier in an already congested engine bay).
 
That's just stage one. Then there's other things probably would be astute to replace at the same time like TX valve and Receiver-Drier and get the system properly flushed of contaminants, debris. You don't want to contaminate the new compressor. Yurik is the expert on this if you have questions, I'm simply facing a similar problem to yours and trying to work through the minefield. Of course, throwing wads of cash at it can solve the problem.
 
I'd be very interested to hear any feedback from you as to how you proceed with the air-con fix ok, if you proceed. Thanks.
Cheers.
Ken.
 
 



24

Hi Scott,

Before sending it to the tip, it could make a nice project for my old age...Tristar with VAG aircon.... Narrabeen , no problem could have it picked up, it used to be our home turf and if your Dad has got slate flooring in his home, it was probably supplied by us..........Hartmut

 

From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mr Scott Pitcher
Sent: Tuesday, 26 January 2010 11:07 PM
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Air-conditioning

 

 



Hi all fellow syncro A/C owners.

 

I did a pop top conversion about a year ago and gave my roof mounted or overhead A/C system to my old man to install. He just couldn't be bothered with it and hence I am offering it for free to anyone who wants it. Note it does not include the condenser, compressor, drier and the hoses that go between the drier bottle and the condenser or the condenser and the compressor.

 

Pick up only.

 

It is dismantled ready to go in excellent working condition and I have photos to assist installation if someone wants it.

 

If not it will go to the tip.

 

The bits are located @ my old man's place in Narrabeen.

 

Cheers,

 

Scott

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Mark Kofahl

Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 10:05 PM

Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Air-conditioning

 

 

Bruce, Ken et al

I am also a twice member of SCASIG. Lost the compressor, on way into Canberra on our way to DOTVW in Meblourne inNov,  as Hart can vividly remember when he saw the rubber belt smoke pouring out the back.

Repair costs:

New Sanden SD7H15 $457
Remote/Replace Compressor/Fix Mounting/Fit new belt, Replace fuse etc - $160
regas - $140

So yes, about $800 bucks. But today, with about 40 deg here, it was still blowing nice cold air. Now that I've said that it will prob pack it in tomorrow (!)

Mark.

On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 10:23 AM, Alison & Bruce Black <royalb@aapt.net.au> wrote:

 

HAPPY AUSTRALIA DAY TO ALL  ☺

 

Happy to be a member of the SCASIG. At this stage it looks like I definitely need a new compressor and maybe a few other things as well as an extra condenser. The Sanden SD7H15 compressor was only 8 years old but it is totally kaput. 

 

I think we may be going back to a spray bottle filled with water and forget about air-con!!

 

Not only that the backside collapsed on my 18 year old after-market Stratos drivers seat the other day. A new one is $850 so hopefully it can be repaired. Probably can't complain about $850 though, I think they were about $600 each in 1992.

 

That's life with an elderly Syncro

 

Bruce

 

 

 

On 23/01/2010, at 11:37 PM, Ken Garratt wrote:



 

Bruce,
Welcome aboard the SCASIG (Syncro Cactus Air-con Special Interest Group), always looking for new recruits.
Is your compressor an oldish Sanden model? Mine is and I've been warned off them and reconditioning them is not a viable option.
 
Older compressors like the Sanden in my Prestige system have "flared" connectors on the refrigerant lines, apparently all new compressors now have "O" ring connectors, meaning not only do you have to buy a new type compressor, you also have to decide how to best connect your old "flared" connector refrigerant lines to the newer "O" ring compressor connectors. As Malcolm Frazer once said, (pants up I think), "life wasn't meant to be easy!"
 
That's the stumbling block I'm still mulling over ... either just add adaptors to both lines or get the refrigerant hose connectors changed over to "O" ring type connectors so as to avoid adding adaptors (meaning more connections to leak and also messier in an already congested engine bay).
 
That's just stage one. Then there's other things probably would be astute to replace at the same time like TX valve and Receiver-Drier and get the system properly flushed of contaminants, debris. You don't want to contaminate the new compressor. Yurik is the expert on this if you have questions, I'm simply facing a similar problem to yours and trying to work through the minefield. Of course, throwing wads of cash at it can solve the problem.
 
I'd be very interested to hear any feedback from you as to how you proceed with the air-con fix ok, if you proceed. Thanks.
Cheers.
Ken.
 
 

 

 

25

Just another thought Skott, installing the aircon would give me the chance to become a member of SCASIG which, I think, will become the Rotary Club of our group!! Somebody out there with the appropriate talent could you please design a logo not unlike the Puch emblem ....... hartmut

 

From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Hartmut Kiehn
Sent: Wednesday, 27 January 2010 7:24 AM
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Air-conditioning

 

 

Hi Scott,

Before sending it to the tip, it could make a nice project for my old age...Tristar with VAG aircon.... Narrabeen , no problem could have it picked up, it used to be our home turf and if your Dad has got slate flooring in his home, it was probably supplied by us..........Hartmut

 

From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mr Scott Pitcher
Sent: Tuesday, 26 January 2010 11:07 PM
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Air-conditioning

 

 



Hi all fellow syncro A/C owners.

 

I did a pop top conversion about a year ago and gave my roof mounted or overhead A/C system to my old man to install. He just couldn't be bothered with it and hence I am offering it for free to anyone who wants it. Note it does not include the condenser, compressor, drier and the hoses that go between the drier bottle and the condenser or the condenser and the compressor.

 

Pick up only.

 

It is dismantled ready to go in excellent working condition and I have photos to assist installation if someone wants it.

 

If not it will go to the tip.

 

The bits are located @ my old man's place in Narrabeen.

 

Cheers,

 

Scott

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Mark Kofahl

Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 10:05 PM

Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Air-conditioning

 

 

Bruce, Ken et al

I am also a twice member of SCASIG. Lost the compressor, on way into Canberra on our way to DOTVW in Meblourne inNov,  as Hart can vividly remember when he saw the rubber belt smoke pouring out the back.

Repair costs:

New Sanden SD7H15 $457
Remote/Replace Compressor/Fix Mounting/Fit new belt, Replace fuse etc - $160
regas - $140

So yes, about $800 bucks. But today, with about 40 deg here, it was still blowing nice cold air. Now that I've said that it will prob pack it in tomorrow (!)

Mark.

On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 10:23 AM, Alison & Bruce Black <royalb@aapt.net.au> wrote:

 

HAPPY AUSTRALIA DAY TO ALL  ☺

 

Happy to be a member of the SCASIG. At this stage it looks like I definitely need a new compressor and maybe a few other things as well as an extra condenser. The Sanden SD7H15 compressor was only 8 years old but it is totally kaput. 

 

I think we may be going back to a spray bottle filled with water and forget about air-con!!

 

Not only that the backside collapsed on my 18 year old after-market Stratos drivers seat the other day. A new one is $850 so hopefully it can be repaired. Probably can't complain about $850 though, I think they were about $600 each in 1992.

 

That's life with an elderly Syncro

 

Bruce

 

 

 

On 23/01/2010, at 11:37 PM, Ken Garratt wrote:




 

Bruce,
Welcome aboard the SCASIG (Syncro Cactus Air-con Special Interest Group), always looking for new recruits.
Is your compressor an oldish Sanden model? Mine is and I've been warned off them and reconditioning them is not a viable option.
 
Older compressors like the Sanden in my Prestige system have "flared" connectors on the refrigerant lines, apparently all new compressors now have "O" ring connectors, meaning not only do you have to buy a new type compressor, you also have to decide how to best connect your old "flared" connector refrigerant lines to the newer "O" ring compressor connectors. As Malcolm Frazer once said, (pants up I think), "life wasn't meant to be easy!"
 
That's the stumbling block I'm still mulling over ... either just add adaptors to both lines or get the refrigerant hose connectors changed over to "O" ring type connectors so as to avoid adding adaptors (meaning more connections to leak and also messier in an already congested engine bay).
 
That's just stage one. Then there's other things probably would be astute to replace at the same time like TX valve and Receiver-Drier and get the system properly flushed of contaminants, debris. You don't want to contaminate the new compressor. Yurik is the expert on this if you have questions, I'm simply facing a similar problem to yours and trying to work through the minefield. Of course, throwing wads of cash at it can solve the problem.
 
I'd be very interested to hear any feedback from you as to how you proceed with the air-con fix ok, if you proceed. Thanks.
Cheers.
Ken.
 
 

 

 

26
Hart,
You may not have enough roof to fit a roof mounted a/c
Phill


> Hi Scott,
>
> Before sending it to the tip, it could make a nice project for my old
> age...Tristar with VAG aircon.... Narrabeen , no problem could have it
> picked up, it used to be our home turf and if your Dad has got slate
> flooring in his home, it was probably supplied by us..........Hartmut
>
>
>
> From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mr Scott
> Pitcher
> Sent: Tuesday, 26 January 2010 11:07 PM
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Air-conditioning
>
>
>
>
>
> ������
>
> Hi all fellow syncro A/C owners.
>
>
>
> I did a pop top conversion about a year ago and gave my roof mounted or
> overhead A/C system to my old man to install. He just couldn't be
> bothered with it and hence I am offering it for free to anyone who wants
> it. Note it does not include the condenser, compressor, drier and the
> hoses that go between the drier bottle and the condenser or the
> condenser and the compressor.
>
>
>
> Pick up only.
>
>
>
> It is dismantled ready to go in excellent working condition and I have
> photos to assist installation if someone wants it.
>
>
>
> If not it will go to the tip.
>
>
>
> The bits are located @ my old man's place in Narrabeen.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
>
> Scott
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Mark Kofahl <mailto:markkofahl@gmail.com>
>
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 10:05 PM
>
> Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Air-conditioning
>
>
>
>
>
> Bruce, Ken et al
>
> I am also a twice member of SCASIG. Lost the compressor, on way into
> Canberra on our way to DOTVW in Meblourne inNov, as Hart can vividly
> remember when he saw the rubber belt smoke pouring out the back.
>
> Repair costs:
>
> New Sanden SD7H15 $457
> Remote/Replace Compressor/Fix Mounting/Fit new belt, Replace fuse etc -
> $160
> regas - $140
>
> So yes, about $800 bucks. But today, with about 40 deg here, it was
> still blowing nice cold air. Now that I've said that it will prob pack
> it in tomorrow (!)
>
> Mark.
>
> On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 10:23 AM, Alison & Bruce Black
> <royalb@aapt.net.au> wrote:
>
>
>
> HAPPY AUSTRALIA DAY TO ALL ������
>
>
>
> Happy to be a member of the SCASIG. At this stage it looks like I
> definitely need a new compressor and maybe a few other things as well as
> an extra condenser. The Sanden SD7H15 compressor was only 8 years old
> but it is totally kaput.
>
>
>
> I think we may be going back to a spray bottle filled with water and
> forget about air-con!!
>
>
>
> Not only that the backside collapsed on my 18 year old after-market
> Stratos drivers seat the other day. A new one is $850 so hopefully it
> can be repaired. Probably can't complain about $850 though, I think they
> were about $600 each in 1992.
>
>
>
> That's life with an elderly Syncro
>
>
>
> Bruce
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 23/01/2010, at 11:37 PM, Ken Garratt wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Bruce,
> Welcome aboard the SCASIG (Syncro Cactus Air-con Special Interest
> Group), always looking for new recruits.
> Is your compressor an oldish Sanden model? Mine is and I've been warned
> off them and reconditioning them is not a viable option.
>
> Older compressors like the Sanden in my Prestige system have "flared"
> connectors on the refrigerant lines, apparently all new compressors now
> have "O" ring connectors, meaning not only do you have to buy a new type
> compressor, you also have to decide how to best connect your old
> "flared" connector refrigerant lines to the newer "O" ring compressor
> connectors. As Malcolm Frazer once said, (pants up I think), "life
> wasn't meant to be easy!"
>
> That's the stumbling block I'm still mulling over ... either just add
> adaptors to both lines or get the refrigerant hose connectors changed
> over to "O" ring type connectors so as to avoid adding adaptors (meaning
> more connections to leak and also messier in an already congested engine
> bay).
>
> That's just stage one. Then there's other things probably would be
> astute to replace at the same time like TX valve and Receiver-Drier and
> get the system properly flushed of contaminants, debris. You don't want
> to contaminate the new compressor. Yurik is the expert on this if you
> have questions, I'm simply facing a similar problem to yours and trying
> to work through the minefield. Of course, throwing wads of cash at it
> can solve the problem.
>
> I'd be very interested to hear any feedback from you as to how you
> proceed with the air-con fix ok, if you proceed. Thanks.
> Cheers.
> Ken.
>
>
>
>
>
>
27
Never thought of the length of the thing, I guess the evaporator is located more to the front of the unit I might be able to shorten it. I will go out to the shed now and do some measuring. Thanks Phill ! Hartmut

-----Original Message-----
From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of plander@optusnet.com.au
Sent: Wednesday, 27 January 2010 7:53 AM
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Air-conditioning

Hart,
You may not have enough roof to fit a roof mounted a/c
Phill


> Hi Scott,
>
> Before sending it to the tip, it could make a nice project for my old
> age...Tristar with VAG aircon.... Narrabeen , no problem could have it
> picked up, it used to be our home turf and if your Dad has got slate
> flooring in his home, it was probably supplied by us..........Hartmut
>
>
>
> From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mr Scott
> Pitcher
> Sent: Tuesday, 26 January 2010 11:07 PM
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Air-conditioning
>
>
>
>
>
> 
>
> Hi all fellow syncro A/C owners.
>
>
>
> I did a pop top conversion about a year ago and gave my roof mounted or
> overhead A/C system to my old man to install. He just couldn't be
> bothered with it and hence I am offering it for free to anyone who wants
> it. Note it does not include the condenser, compressor, drier and the
> hoses that go between the drier bottle and the condenser or the
> condenser and the compressor.
>
>
>
> Pick up only.
>
>
>
> It is dismantled ready to go in excellent working condition and I have
> photos to assist installation if someone wants it.
>
>
>
> If not it will go to the tip.
>
>
>
> The bits are located @ my old man's place in Narrabeen.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
>
> Scott
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Mark Kofahl <mailto:markkofahl@gmail.com>
>
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 10:05 PM
>
> Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Air-conditioning
>
>
>
>
>
> Bruce, Ken et al
>
> I am also a twice member of SCASIG. Lost the compressor, on way into
> Canberra on our way to DOTVW in Meblourne inNov, as Hart can vividly
> remember when he saw the rubber belt smoke pouring out the back.
>
> Repair costs:
>
> New Sanden SD7H15 $457
> Remote/Replace Compressor/Fix Mounting/Fit new belt, Replace fuse etc -
> $160
> regas - $140
>
> So yes, about $800 bucks. But today, with about 40 deg here, it was
> still blowing nice cold air. Now that I've said that it will prob pack
> it in tomorrow (!)
>
> Mark.
>
> On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 10:23 AM, Alison & Bruce Black
> <royalb@aapt.net.au> wrote:
>
>
>
> HAPPY AUSTRALIA DAY TO ALL ☺
>
>
>
> Happy to be a member of the SCASIG. At this stage it looks like I
> definitely need a new compressor and maybe a few other things as well as
> an extra condenser. The Sanden SD7H15 compressor was only 8 years old
> but it is totally kaput.
>
>
>
> I think we may be going back to a spray bottle filled with water and
> forget about air-con!!
>
>
>
> Not only that the backside collapsed on my 18 year old after-market
> Stratos drivers seat the other day. A new one is $850 so hopefully it
> can be repaired. Probably can't complain about $850 though, I think they
> were about $600 each in 1992.
>
>
>
> That's life with an elderly Syncro
>
>
>
> Bruce
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 23/01/2010, at 11:37 PM, Ken Garratt wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Bruce,
> Welcome aboard the SCASIG (Syncro Cactus Air-con Special Interest
> Group), always looking for new recruits.
> Is your compressor an oldish Sanden model? Mine is and I've been warned
> off them and reconditioning them is not a viable option.
>
> Older compressors like the Sanden in my Prestige system have "flared"
> connectors on the refrigerant lines, apparently all new compressors now
> have "O" ring connectors, meaning not only do you have to buy a new type
> compressor, you also have to decide how to best connect your old
> "flared" connector refrigerant lines to the newer "O" ring compressor
> connectors. As Malcolm Frazer once said, (pants up I think), "life
> wasn't meant to be easy!"
>
> That's the stumbling block I'm still mulling over ... either just add
> adaptors to both lines or get the refrigerant hose connectors changed
> over to "O" ring type connectors so as to avoid adding adaptors (meaning
> more connections to leak and also messier in an already congested engine
> bay).
>
> That's just stage one. Then there's other things probably would be
> astute to replace at the same time like TX valve and Receiver-Drier and
> get the system properly flushed of contaminants, debris. You don't want
> to contaminate the new compressor. Yurik is the expert on this if you
> have questions, I'm simply facing a similar problem to yours and trying
> to work through the minefield. Of course, throwing wads of cash at it
> can solve the problem.
>
> I'd be very interested to hear any feedback from you as to how you
> proceed with the air-con fix ok, if you proceed. Thanks.
> Cheers.
> Ken.
>
>
>
>
>
>


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On Jan 26, 2010, at 2:36 PM, "Hartmut Kiehn" <hartis@live.com.au> wrote:

> Never thought of the length of the thing, I guess the evaporator is
> located more to the front of the unit I might be able to shorten it.
> I will go out to the shed now and do some measuring. Thanks Phill !
> Hartmut


Dear Hartis,

Perhaps it is a question of semantics. In my part of the world, when
we say roof mounted AC, we typically mean the ones sitting on the
outside on top of the roof. On the T3's, we got two types of 'ceiling
mounted' AC's. I happen to have both types at home.

Of those two types, the earlier version is shorter. The evaporator is
just aft of the driver's and front passenger's head. There is a center
tunnel which sends the air forward. There are no blowers in the front
panel. The unit is intended to be supported independently on one side
and by the sliding door track on the opposite side. That means you
need to fabricate a bracket for one side because you do not have a
sliding door track in your Tristar. Otherwise, it is a good fit for
any Doka.

The downside is they are rather noisy. The fans reside in the evap
housing next to your head! There are some aesthetic matters as well.
The panels appear more angular compared to the later AC's. Even worse
than that, the refrigerant hoses run up the left side B-pillar. They
are normally covered with a fragile plastic channel intended to be
reinforced by the steel bulkhead on T3's with 3-across front seating.
If your Tristar is typical, you have the 'walkthrough' seating with
two pilot seats sans steel bulkhead.

Now that I've gotten that off my chest, let's talk about the later
model. They are very pretty and reminds me of the interior in some
aircrafts. Just as the earlier version, the fans reside in the
evaporator housing all the way in the back. ALL the way to the rear
hatch. That is the biggest hassle in modifying this unit for use in
your Tristar. The housing is designed to compliment the contours of
the rear corners. They are sized to take advantage of the space at the
rear.

OK, so let's say you figure out a way to adapt the rear supports. BTW,
VW had a safety recall in supports for these units. The replacement
brackets are perfect fir custom applications such as in your Tristar.
The other ugly part of this equation is again the hoses. These models
came with nice sturdy, WIDE side panels to act as part support for the
evap plus housing for all the hoses, wiring, and relays. Hiding all
that on the narrow B-pillar of a Doka was too much of a challenge for
me. Perhaps, this is good time to consult with the design concepts
introduced to the US pop culture by a movie full of Aussie's.

If I were to coin a phrase, I would call it 'The Mad Max School of
Automotive Design'.

;-)


Cheers,

BenT


ps: I've been asked



>
29
Whoops, I sent that last message prematurely. I meant to add this as a
'ps'. Since I missed, might as well give her a subjectline all her own.

I find that there are occasions when I am not sure how to address
another forum member. I have no problem with Hartmut since he has
declared he is called Hartis as well to the group. This was after I
wrote him the phrase, "Home is where the Hartis (heart is). Got it
from his email address. Les is easy too. I just call him what I call
my ex-wife. No, silly. I don't call Les any 4-letter words. Les only
had 3 letters. I can't remember who but someone once told me that it
was important for Phill that his name was spelled correctly. I never
forgot and make every effort I can to use as many L's as needed. My
apologies if I ever missed any. The spellcheck program in these
'smart' phones, insists on taking out the 2nd L if I am not vigilant.

The rest of you, well Les has done it. He singlehandedly removed
anonymity in the Forum. Unlike the Vanagon List, you don't Aristotle
Sagan's, Westfaliaman (there's a few with that name), Spiderman,
Wonderwoman, and etc. Anyway, I have been asked.

I sign my postings BenT to differentiate myself from the other Ben's
out there. My old email address went like BenTbtstr8@***. Name comes
from Benjamin Tan. I thought it would be too arrogant to post my real
initials -- BEST. No kidding.

So anyway, the point of this note resolve the questions from some
people concerned that I may be put off my being addressed as just
'Ben'. Now that we have another Ben in this forum, it makes it more
important to differentiate the two but not the point of confusion. 3-
letters or 4-letters. Works for me.

Now back to your regularly scheduled programming.


Regards,

BenT
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> Wonderwoman, and etc.

Now you've got my interest!

Phil
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On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 4:28 PM, <plander@optusnet.com.au> wrote:

> Wonderwoman, and etc.

Now you've got my interest!

Phil
Phill,
I'm in San Francisco. Around here, Wonderwoman may
not look exactly like Linda Carter character.=)
--
BenT
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Hartmut,
 
You are first in so its yours.
 
You will still need a new compressor and bracket plus a couple of hoses, plus a condenser/ drier bottle and probably an A/C person to wire it in to the main power circuit.
 
The evaporator sits right at the back of the vehicle and has a duct to suit the angled rear end of the T3 van. You may wish to change this to suit the squarer rear of the double cab area.
 
The roof section runsdown the middle of the ceiling and is attached via a large  "C" section black painted metal bracket. This can be cut down and adjusted as required. The roof ducts can also be altered in length (they are already in 3 sections) maybe take a section out - or just cut one or two sections down (they slip into eachother anyway). The control wiring runs to the front via the duct.
 
The fan alone used to work really well and keep the kids cool in the back.
 
It does restrict the view out the rear view mirror somewhat which was annoying and I always bashed my head on it. Hence very happy to see it go.
 
I will make sue my dad puts it aside for you.
 
Cheers,
 
Scott
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 9:36 AM
Subject: RE: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Air-conditioning

 

Never thought of the length of the thing, I guess the evaporator is located more to the front of the unit I might be able to shorten it. I will go out to the shed now and do some measuring. Thanks Phill ! Hartmut

-----Original Message-----
From: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of plander@optusnet. com.au
Sent: Wednesday, 27 January 2010 7:53 AM
To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australi a] Air-conditioning

Hart,
You may not have enough roof to fit a roof mounted a/c
Phill

> Hi Scott,
>
> Before sending it to the tip, it could make a nice project for my old
> age...Tristar with VAG aircon.... Narrabeen , no problem could have it
> picked up, it used to be our home turf and if your Dad has got slate
> flooring in his home, it was probably supplied by us.......... Hartmut
>
>
>
> From: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
> [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Mr Scott
> Pitcher
> Sent: Tuesday, 26 January 2010 11:07 PM
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
> Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australi a] Air-conditioning
>
>
>
>
>
> 
>
> Hi all fellow syncro A/C owners.
>
>
>
> I did a pop top conversion about a year ago and gave my roof mounted or
> overhead A/C system to my old man to install. He just couldn't be
> bothered with it and hence I am offering it for free to anyone who wants
> it. Note it does not include the condenser, compressor, drier and the
> hoses that go between the drier bottle and the condenser or the
> condenser and the compressor.
>
>
>
> Pick up only.
>
>
>
> It is dismantled ready to go in excellent working condition and I have
> photos to assist installation if someone wants it.
>
>
>
> If not it will go to the tip.
>
>
>
> The bits are located @ my old man's place in Narrabeen.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
>
> Scott
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Mark Kofahl <mailto:markkofahl@gmail. com>
>
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 10:05 PM
>
> Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australi a] Air-conditioning
>
>
>
>
>
> Bruce, Ken et al
>
> I am also a twice member of SCASIG. Lost the compressor, on way into
> Canberra on our way to DOTVW in Meblourne inNov, as Hart can vividly
> remember when he saw the rubber belt smoke pouring out the back.
>
> Repair costs:
>
> New Sanden SD7H15 $457
> Remote/Replace Compressor/Fix Mounting/Fit new belt, Replace fuse etc -
> $160
> regas - $140
>
> So yes, about $800 bucks. But today, with about 40 deg here, it was
> still blowing nice cold air. Now that I've said that it will prob pack
> it in tomorrow (!)
>
> Mark.
>
> On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 10:23 AM, Alison & Bruce Black
> <royalb@aapt. net.au> wrote:
>
>
>
> HAPPY AUSTRALIA DAY TO ALL ☺
>
>
>
> Happy to be a member of the SCASIG. At this stage it looks like I
> definitely need a new compressor and maybe a few other things as well as
> an extra condenser. The Sanden SD7H15 compressor was only 8 years old
> but it is totally kaput.
>
>
>
> I think we may be going back to a spray bottle filled with water and
> forget about air-con!!
>
>
>
> Not only that the backside collapsed on my 18 year old after-market
> Stratos drivers seat the other day. A new one is $850 so hopefully it
> can be repaired. Probably can't complain about $850 though, I think they
> were about $600 each in 1992.
>
>
>
> That's life with an elderly Syncro
>
>
>
> Bruce
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 23/01/2010, at 11:37 PM, Ken Garratt wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Bruce,
> Welcome aboard the SCASIG (Syncro Cactus Air-con Special Interest
> Group), always looking for new recruits.
> Is your compressor an oldish Sanden model? Mine is and I've been warned
> off them and reconditioning them is not a viable option.
>
> Older compressors like the Sanden in my Prestige system have "flared"
> connectors on the refrigerant lines, apparently all new compressors now
> have "O" ring connectors, meaning not only do you have to buy a new type
> compressor, you also have to decide how to best connect your old
> "flared" connector refrigerant lines to the newer "O" ring compressor
> connectors. As Malcolm Frazer once said, (pants up I think), "life
> wasn't meant to be easy!"
>
> That's the stumbling block I'm still mulling over ... either just add
> adaptors to both lines or get the refrigerant hose connectors changed
> over to "O" ring type connectors so as to avoid adding adaptors (meaning
> more connections to leak and also messier in an already congested engine
> bay).
>
> That's just stage one. Then there's other things probably would be
> astute to replace at the same time like TX valve and Receiver-Drier and
> get the system properly flushed of contaminants, debris. You don't want
> to contaminate the new compressor. Yurik is the expert on this if you
> have questions, I'm simply facing a similar problem to yours and trying
> to work through the minefield. Of course, throwing wads of cash at it
> can solve the problem.
>
> I'd be very interested to hear any feedback from you as to how you
> proceed with the air-con fix ok, if you proceed. Thanks.
> Cheers.
> Ken.
>
>
>
>
>
>

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Dear Ben,
 
You've just explained why in Australia the use of "mate" is so popular.
It may also mean in my case 2 beers and I can't remember anyone's name but I feel everyone is my mate.
 
Cheers mate
 
Roger

--- On Wed, 27/1/10, BenT Syncro <syncro@gmail.com> wrote:

From: BenT Syncro <syncro@gmail.com>
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] What's in your name?
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Received: Wednesday, 27 January, 2010, 8:18 AM

 
Whoops, I sent that last message prematurely. I meant to add this as a
'ps'. Since I missed, might as well give her a subjectline all her own.

I find that there are occasions when I am not sure how to address
another forum member. I have no problem with Hartmut since he has
declared he is called Hartis as well to the group. This was after I
wrote him the phrase, "Home is where the Hartis (heart is). Got it
from his email address. Les is easy too. I just call him what I call
my ex-wife. No, silly. I don't call Les any 4-letter words. Les only
had 3 letters. I can't remember who but someone once told me that it
was important for Phill that his name was spelled correctly. I never
forgot and make every effort I can to use as many L's as needed. My
apologies if I ever missed any. The spellcheck program in these
'smart' phones, insists on taking out the 2nd L if I am not vigilant.

The rest of you, well Les has done it. He singlehandedly removed
anonymity in the Forum. Unlike the Vanagon List, you don't Aristotle
Sagan's, Westfaliaman (there's a few with that name), Spiderman,
Wonderwoman, and etc. Anyway, I have been asked.

I sign my postings BenT to differentiate myself from the other Ben's
out there. My old email address went like BenTbtstr8@* **. Name comes
from Benjamin Tan. I thought it would be too arrogant to post my real
initials -- BEST. No kidding.

So anyway, the point of this note resolve the questions from some
people concerned that I may be put off my being addressed as just
'Ben'. Now that we have another Ben in this forum, it makes it more
important to differentiate the two but not the point of confusion. 3-
letters or 4-letters. Works for me.

Now back to your regularly scheduled programming.

Regards,

BenT


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On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 3:36 AM, Roger Bell <bellrmit@yahoo.com.au> wrote:


Dear Ben,
You've just explained why in Australia the use of "mate" is so popular.
It may also mean in my case 2 beers and I can't remember anyone's name but I feel everyone is my mate.
Cheers mate
Roger
Roger that, mate!
=)
BenT