FW: Scasig Group

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From: hartis@live.com.au
To: hartmut_kiehn@syncro
Subject: Scasig Group
Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2010 15:27:41 +1100

Hi All !
hope you all have a really wonderful Christmas or Crimbo to be polit correct-----
Now ,
, someone mentioned to Ken that he had opened a can of worms, was actually SAM who opened it !  Well I have a pressi for you, just google
         HyChill           and print out, read and digest. Read why 134a is bad for the Ozone , read why it is a poor performer in high ambient, read also
why the Hydrocarbon alternative saves you fuel and is save when handled correcty.  Read also vehicle quantity requirements , and best of all
it is available Nationwide in small quantities also.
 
And if Mr XYZ argues that you would be sitting on a time bomb think again, an average  car system requires  200g refrigerant, in the tank you carry 50kg of Hydrocarbons.
 
Enjoy your holidays !  Hartmut
 
PS  I took my TRAKKA for a good (200km) run today and on the way home the coolant was on the way out. It's the good old
Plastic Crimbo tree right hand side Front of engine. Anybody got a spare  (plastic or S/S )  to sell, please let me know.
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I think that Ben's is near new.

I think that Ben is over at his father's house for dinner tonight.


> Hartmut Kiehn <hartis@live.com.au> wrote:
>
>
> Will get some JB , like fixing things. Ben's is probably 20 yrs old too.
> Hart
>
> > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > From: unclekenz@hotmail.com
> > Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2010 07:30:40 +0000
> > Subject: FW: [Syncro_T3_Australia] FW: Scasig Group
> >
> > Ben said he had one for sale a little while back ... If so, he could
> have taken it up to you.
> >
> > Or do what I did. Repair it with JB Weld.
> > Ken
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Hartmut Kiehn <hartis@live.com.au>
> > Sent: Saturday, 25 December 2010 3:38 PM
> > To: syncro_t3_australia@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] FW: Scasig Group
> >
> >
> >
> > [The entire original message is not included]
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>
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Thanks for that Phill, I hope to see him soon anyway and there is no hurry i can run around in that x-tel van, goes great  guns.
Coming up at all ? let me know, if..  Hart
 
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
From: plander@optusnet.com.au
Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2010 21:04:03 +1100
Subject: Re: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] FW: Scasig Group

 

I think that Ben's is near new.

I think that Ben is over at his father's house for dinner tonight.

> Hartmut Kiehn <hartis@live.com.au> wrote:
>
>
> Will get some JB , like fixing things. Ben's is probably 20 yrs old too.
> Hart
>
> > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > From: unclekenz@hotmail.com
> > Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2010 07:30:40 +0000
> > Subject: FW: [Syncro_T3_Australia] FW: Scasig Group
> >
> > Ben said he had one for sale a little while back ... If so, he could
> have taken it up to you.
> >
> > Or do what I did. Repair it with JB Weld.
> > Ken
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Hartmut Kiehn <hartis@live.com.au>
> > Sent: Saturday, 25 December 2010 3:38 PM
> > To: syncro_t3_australia@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] FW: Scasig Group
> >
> >
> >
> > [The entire original message is not included]
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>

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Kinda freaky how you know my whereabouts Phill.

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, plander@... wrote:
>
>
> I think that Ben's is near new.
>
> I think that Ben is over at his father's house for dinner tonight.
>
>
> > Hartmut Kiehn <hartis@...> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Will get some JB , like fixing things. Ben's is probably 20 yrs old too.
> > Hart
> >
> > > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > > From: unclekenz@...
> > > Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2010 07:30:40 +0000
> > > Subject: FW: [Syncro_T3_Australia] FW: Scasig Group
> > >
> > > Ben said he had one for sale a little while back ... If so, he could
> > have taken it up to you.
> > >
> > > Or do what I did. Repair it with JB Weld.
> > > Ken
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Hartmut Kiehn <hartis@...>
> > > Sent: Saturday, 25 December 2010 3:38 PM
> > > To: syncro_t3_australia@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] FW: Scasig Group
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [The entire original message is not included]
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
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No need for pointing fingers now!

That HyChill site is very interesting - why bother to convert to r134a? Link to succinct two page info sheet is http://www.hychill.com.au/tech/facts.htm

:) Sam


--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, Hartmut Kiehn <hartis@...> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: hartis@...
> To: hartmut_kiehn@syncro
> Subject: Scasig Group
> Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2010 15:27:41 +1100
>
>
>
>
> Hi All !
> hope you all have a really wonderful Christmas or Crimbo to be polit correct-----
> Now ,
> , someone mentioned to Ken that he had opened a can of worms, was actually SAM who opened it ! Well I have a pressi for you, just google
> HyChill and print out, read and digest. Read why 134a is bad for the Ozone , read why it is a poor performer in high ambient, read also
> why the Hydrocarbon alternative saves you fuel and is save when handled correcty. Read also vehicle quantity requirements , and best of all
> it is available Nationwide in small quantities also.
>
> And if Mr XYZ argues that you would be sitting on a time bomb think again, an average car system requires 200g refrigerant, in the tank you carry 50kg of Hydrocarbons.
>
> Enjoy your holidays ! Hartmut
>
> PS I took my TRAKKA for a good (200km) run today and on the way home the coolant was on the way out. It's the good old
> Plastic Crimbo tree right hand side Front of engine. Anybody got a spare (plastic or S/S ) to sell, please let me know.
>
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Stalker


> bencroft96 <bencroft96@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Kinda freaky how you know my whereabouts Phill.
>
> --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, plander@... wrote:
> >
> >
> > I think that Ben's is near new.
> >
> > I think that Ben is over at his father's house for dinner tonight.
> >
> >
> > > Hartmut Kiehn <hartis@...> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Will get some JB , like fixing things. Ben's is probably 20 yrs old
> too.
> > > Hart
> > >
> > > > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > > > From: unclekenz@...
> > > > Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2010 07:30:40 +0000
> > > > Subject: FW: [Syncro_T3_Australia] FW: Scasig Group
> > > >
> > > > Ben said he had one for sale a little while back ... If so, he
> could
> > > have taken it up to you.
> > > >
> > > > Or do what I did. Repair it with JB Weld.
> > > > Ken
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Hartmut Kiehn <hartis@...>
> > > > Sent: Saturday, 25 December 2010 3:38 PM
> > > > To: syncro_t3_australia@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] FW: Scasig Group
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > [The entire original message is not included]
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ------------------------------------
> > > >
> > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
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> Hartmut Kiehn <hartis@live.com.au> wrote:
>
>
> Thanks for that Phill, I hope to see him soon anyway and there is no
> hurry i can run around in that x-tel van, goes great guns.
> Coming up at all ? let me know, if.. Hart

Joanne's going up to Port on Wednesday.

She could bring it up if you need it before Ben goes.

Phill
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Had to get your attention Sam, it worked...... Ha
 
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
From: me@samarnold.org
Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2010 11:16:58 +0000
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: FW: Scasig Group

 
No need for pointing fingers now!

That HyChill site is very interesting - why bother to convert to r134a? Link to succinct two page info sheet is http://www.hychill.com.au/tech/facts.htm

:) Sam

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, Hartmut Kiehn <hartis@...> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: hartis@...
> To: hartmut_kiehn@syncro
> Subject: Scasig Group
> Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2010 15:27:41 +1100
>
>
>
>
> Hi All !
> hope you all have a really wonderful Christmas or Crimbo to be polit correct-----
> Now ,
> , someone mentioned to Ken that he had opened a can of worms, was actually SAM who opened it ! Well I have a pressi for you, just google
> HyChill and print out, read and digest. Read why 134a is bad for the Ozone , read why it is a poor performer in high ambient, read also
> why the Hydrocarbon alternative saves you fuel and is save when handled correcty. Read also vehicle quantity requirements , and best of all
> it is available Nationwide in small quantities also.
>
> And if Mr XYZ argues that you would be sitting on a time bomb think again, an average car system requires 200g refrigerant, in the tank you carry 50kg of Hydrocarbons.
>
> Enjoy your holidays ! Hartmut
>
> PS I took my TRAKKA for a good (200km) run today and on the way home the coolant was on the way out. It's the good old
> Plastic Crimbo tree right hand side Front of engine. Anybody got a spare (plastic or S/S ) to sell, please let me know.
>


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Thanks so much for that offer Phill, but it can wait, there's Tristar, if needed , to pick her up from W/hope train station or airport let me know.  Hart
 
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
From: plander@optusnet.com.au
Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2010 22:35:22 +1100
Subject: Re: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] FW: Scasig Group

 


> Hartmut Kiehn <hartis@live.com.au> wrote:
>
>
> Thanks for that Phill, I hope to see him soon anyway and there is no
> hurry i can run around in that x-tel van, goes great guns.
> Coming up at all ? let me know, if.. Hart

Joanne's going up to Port on Wednesday.

She could bring it up if you need it before Ben goes.

Phill

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> That HyChill site is very interesting - why bother to convert to r134a?
> Link to succinct two page info sheet is
> http://www.hychill.com.au/tech/facts.htm
>
> :) Sam
>

That site sounds a bit dodgy to me.

They talk about "low risk to occupants". I would have said no risk.

Then they say global warming.

It sounds like something on "A Current Affair"
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Stalker from Deep water car park??lol

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, plander@... wrote:
>
>
> Stalker
>
>
> > bencroft96 <bencroft96@...> wrote:
> >
> > Kinda freaky how you know my whereabouts Phill.
> >
> > --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, plander@ wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > I think that Ben's is near new.
> > >
> > > I think that Ben is over at his father's house for dinner tonight.
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hartmut Kiehn <hartis@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Will get some JB , like fixing things. Ben's is probably 20 yrs old
> > too.
> > > > Hart
> > > >
> > > > > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > From: unclekenz@
> > > > > Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2010 07:30:40 +0000
> > > > > Subject: FW: [Syncro_T3_Australia] FW: Scasig Group
> > > > >
> > > > > Ben said he had one for sale a little while back ... If so, he
> > could
> > > > have taken it up to you.
> > > > >
> > > > > Or do what I did. Repair it with JB Weld.
> > > > > Ken
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Hartmut Kiehn <hartis@>
> > > > > Sent: Saturday, 25 December 2010 3:38 PM
> > > > > To: syncro_t3_australia@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] FW: Scasig Group
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > [The entire original message is not included]
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ------------------------------------
> > > > >
> > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
>
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Especially since hydrocarbon basically means highly flammable! Greg E

--- On Sun, 26/12/10, plander@optusnet.com.au <plander@optusnet.com.au> wrote:

From: plander@optusnet.com.au <plander@optusnet.com.au>
Subject: Re: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: FW: Scasig Group
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Received: Sunday, 26 December, 2010, 7:21 AM

 


> That HyChill site is very interesting - why bother to convert to r134a?
> Link to succinct two page info sheet is
> http://www.hychill.com.au/tech/facts.htm
>
> :) Sam
>

That site sounds a bit dodgy to me.

They talk about "low risk to occupants". I would have said no risk.

Then they say global warming.

It sounds like something on "A Current Affair"

 
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Fond memories, eh!



> bencroft96 <bencroft96@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Stalker from Deep water car park??lol
>
> --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, plander@... wrote:
> >
> >
> > Stalker
> >
> >
> > > bencroft96 <bencroft96@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > Kinda freaky how you know my whereabouts Phill.
> > >
> > > --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, plander@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I think that Ben's is near new.
> > > >
> > > > I think that Ben is over at his father's house for dinner tonight.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Hartmut Kiehn <hartis@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Will get some JB , like fixing things. Ben's is probably 20 yrs
> old
> > > too.
> > > > > Hart
> > > > >
> > > > > > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > From: unclekenz@
> > > > > > Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2010 07:30:40 +0000
> > > > > > Subject: FW: [Syncro_T3_Australia] FW: Scasig Group
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ben said he had one for sale a little while back ... If so, he
>
> > > could
> > > > > have taken it up to you.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Or do what I did. Repair it with JB Weld.
> > > > > > Ken
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Hartmut Kiehn <hartis@>
> > > > > > Sent: Saturday, 25 December 2010 3:38 PM
> > > > > > To: syncro_t3_australia@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] FW: Scasig Group
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [The entire original message is not included]
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ------------------------------------
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> >
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That's what our Grandfathers said when ''they"  opened up the first Filling Stations for that highly flammable petrol. That's also what  I  said when the first LPG filling stations were introduced. And many Italian and other household fridges/freezers are charged with HyChill or equal.  And what about the Hydrocarbon Filling stations (sofar only in Muenchen I believe) for the BMW Hydro fleet.
What makes us special, I think anyway, is the fact that we as homo sapiens can calculate risk, or else we would not sit above huge amounts of hyro carbons in our toys.

Promise to keep you in the loop how mine performs, if you hear rumors that i"m no longer with you here , than you know that 200grams of that stuff have trans shipped me into eternity. Hartmut
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
From: gregespo73@yahoo.com
Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2010 14:51:17 -0800
Subject: Re: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: FW: Scasig Group

 
Especially since hydrocarbon basically means highly flammable! Greg E

--- On Sun, 26/12/10, plander@optusnet.com.au <plander@optusnet.com.au> wrote:

From: plander@optusnet.com.au <plander@optusnet.com.au>
Subject: Re: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: FW: Scasig Group
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Received: Sunday, 26 December, 2010, 7:21 AM

 


> That HyChill site is very interesting - why bother to convert to r134a?
> Link to succinct two page info sheet is
> http://www.hychill.com.au/tech/facts.htm
>
> :) Sam
>

That site sounds a bit dodgy to me.

They talk about "low risk to occupants". I would have said no risk.

Then they say global warming.

It sounds like something on "A Current Affair"

 
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Phill,  I have got that coolant distributor out and thr #  251 121 442 A  is that the correct one ?  Hart
 
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
From: plander@optusnet.com.au
Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2010 07:21:15 +1100
Subject: Re: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: FW: Scasig Group

 


> That HyChill site is very interesting - why bother to convert to r134a?
> Link to succinct two page info sheet is
> http://www.hychill.com.au/tech/facts.htm
>
> :) Sam
>

That site sounds a bit dodgy to me.

They talk about "low risk to occupants". I would have said no risk.

Then they say global warming.

It sounds like something on "A Current Affair"

16
Hartmut,
Nothing wrong with your reading glasses .... spot-on Xmas Tree part no. for your beast.
Ken

To: syncro_t3_australia@yahoogroups.com
From: hartis@live.com.au
Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2010 13:33:30 +1100
Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: FW: Scasig Group

 
Phill,  I have got that coolant distributor out and thr #  251 121 442 A  is that the correct one ?  Hart
 

To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
From: plander@optusnet.com.au
Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2010 07:21:15 +1100
Subject: Re: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: FW: Scasig Group

 


> That HyChill site is very interesting - why bother to convert to r134a?
> Link to succinct two page info sheet is
> http://www.hychill.com.au/tech/facts.htm
>
> :) Sam
>

That site sounds a bit dodgy to me.

They talk about "low risk to occupants". I would have said no risk.

Then they say global warming.

It sounds like something on "A Current Affair"


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what r. glasses?? used the magnifier!  And as it goes Ken, need a Westy kit for the pipes. One end been stuck in the Xmas tree already. It's a shit job thats why I have to do it  !

 You think  I  should take out the Starter motor for a check up ? (245 000km). Deserately need a hydr. hoist at my age, have to talk to her. I like those with 4 posts better actually.
 
Hope you got all the work finished in good time.      Hartmut
To: syncro_t3_australia@yahoogroups.com
From: unclekenz@hotmail.com
Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2010 13:39:50 +1100
Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: FW: Scasig Group

 
Hartmut,
Nothing wrong with your reading glasses .... spot-on Xmas Tree part no. for your beast.
Ken

To: syncro_t3_australia@yahoogroups.com
From: hartis@live.com.au
Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2010 13:33:30 +1100
Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: FW: Scasig Group

 
Phill,  I have got that coolant distributor out and thr #  251 121 442 A  is that the correct one ?  Hart
 

To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
From: plander@optusnet.com.au
Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2010 07:21:15 +1100
Subject: Re: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: FW: Scasig Group

 


> That HyChill site is very interesting - why bother to convert to r134a?
> Link to succinct two page info sheet is
> http://www.hychill.com.au/tech/facts.htm
>
> :) Sam
>

That site sounds a bit dodgy to me.

They talk about "low risk to occupants". I would have said no risk.

Then they say global warming.

It sounds like something on "A Current Affair"



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If it loooks like this

http://www.van-cafe.com/home/van/page_670?print=1



> Hartmut Kiehn <hartis@live.com.au> wrote:
>
>
> Phill, I have got that coolant distributor out and thr # 251 121 442 A
> is that the correct one ? Hart
>
>
>
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> From: plander@optusnet.com.au
> Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2010 07:21:15 +1100
> Subject: Re: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: FW: Scasig Group
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > That HyChill site is very interesting - why bother to convert to
> r134a?
> > Link to succinct two page info sheet is
> > http://www.hychill.com.au/tech/facts.htm
> >
> > :) Sam
> >
>
> That site sounds a bit dodgy to me.
>
> They talk about "low risk to occupants". I would have said no risk.
>
> Then they say global warming.
>
> It sounds like something on "A Current Affair"
>
>
>
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Hartmut,

If you have a rear diflock with actuator in place ... leave it for Elkie to do! .... haha. Guarantee you'll be forever banned to overnight in the Trakka .... you lucky devil!

No difflock ... piece of cake by comparison.

Ken

To: syncro_t3_australia@yahoogroups.com
From: hartis@live.com.au
Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2010 15:22:42 +1100
Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: FW: Scasig Group

 
what r. glasses?? used the magnifier!  And as it goes Ken, need a Westy kit for the pipes. One end been stuck in the Xmas tree already. It's a shit job thats why I have to do it  !

 You think  I  should take out the Starter motor for a check up ? (245 000km). Deserately need a hydr. hoist at my age, have to talk to her. I like those with 4 posts better actually.
 
Hope you got all the work finished in good time.      Hartmut

To: syncro_t3_australia@yahoogroups.com
From: unclekenz@hotmail.com
Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2010 13:39:50 +1100
Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: FW: Scasig Group

 
Hartmut,
Nothing wrong with your reading glasses .... spot-on Xmas Tree part no. for your beast.
Ken

To: syncro_t3_australia@yahoogroups.com
From: hartis@live.com.au
Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2010 13:33:30 +1100
Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: FW: Scasig Group

 
Phill,  I have got that coolant distributor out and thr #  251 121 442 A  is that the correct one ?  Hart
 

To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
From: plander@optusnet.com.au
Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2010 07:21:15 +1100
Subject: Re: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: FW: Scasig Group

 


> That HyChill site is very interesting - why bother to convert to r134a?
> Link to succinct two page info sheet is
> http://www.hychill.com.au/tech/facts.htm
>
> :) Sam
>

That site sounds a bit dodgy to me.

They talk about "low risk to occupants". I would have said no risk.

Then they say global warming.

It sounds like something on "A Current Affair"