FW: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Shocks

1
All,
With the original length Syncro springs, the OME shocks to buy are N38S for the fronts, N37 for rears. Expect to pay $800 plus for the full set, usually from an ARB type store.

If you have/going to install longer springs, you most likely will need different model shocks that have longer travel.

Cheers.
Ken


-----Original Message-----
From: Francesca Coles <fcoles6@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, 27 April 2010 12:33 PM
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Shocks



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Wonderful. Thank you Ken. We discovered mine has an extra shim above the
springs. Looks about 15 mm thick. I assume for some extra clearance. I will
check with ARB to see if that will make a difference to the type of shocks I
need.

Cheers, Peter
3
Peter,
The stock rear springs should abutt a stock thick pad in place at the top of the spring housing and a thin nylon pad at the bottom. This isn't an extension, this is normal.
Ken



-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Coe <peter@coeconsult.com.au>
Sent: Tuesday, 27 April 2010 2:55 PM
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
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Thanks for your help here Ken. Mine has the black nylon pads you mentioned
and then an extra one at the top. Someone has done a mod in the past for
some reason.

Cheers, Peter
5
Peter,
My best guess is that the extra pad recovers all/some of the lost underside ground clearance caused by the extra weight of the camper. I have that issue with my Syncro camper but so far, not tackled this issue.
Ken'

-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Coe <peter@coeconsult.com.au>
Sent: Tuesday, 27 April 2010 3:24 PM
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Shocks


Thanks for your help here Ken. Mine has the black nylon pads you mentioned
and then an extra one at the top. Someone has done a mod in the past for
some reason.

Cheers, Peter
6
You can buy these spacers from a few sources as a cheap way to gain a bit of lift, have a look at www.busman.be as he sells them
[2 0 / 2 1 Design]
28 Gwynne St
Richmond
Vic 3121
gary@twentytwentyone.net
www.twentytwentyone.net
Tel 3 9429 1868
Fax 3 9421 1110
Mob 0417 352782

On 27/04/2010, at 3:43 PM, Ken Garratt wrote:

Peter,
My best guess is that the extra pad recovers all/some of the lost underside ground clearance caused by the extra weight of the camper. I have that issue with my Syncro camper but so far, not tackled this issue.
Ken'

-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Coe <peter@coeconsult.com.au>
Sent: Tuesday, 27 April 2010 3:24 PM
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Shocks


Thanks for your help here Ken. Mine has the black nylon pads you mentioned
and then an extra one at the top. Someone has done a mod in the past for
some reason.

Cheers, Peter




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Gary,
Previous posters have suggested a suitable/cheap alternative is to make spacer disks from white kitchen cutting board material. Not sure if this works the same for the fronts. Anyone?

To R&R the front shocks, Yurik has previously described an alternate procedure that negates the need for spring compressors.

Ken


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Hmm not sure, think i'd prefer the stretching springs option just in case of an insurance problem.

I'd like to read that process if Yurik has it somewhere. Hartmut explained it to me but i've yet to put it into practise.

Gary


On 27/04/2010, at 4:30 PM, Ken Garratt wrote:

Gary,
Previous posters have suggested a suitable/cheap alternative is to make spacer disks from white kitchen cutting board material. Not sure if this works the same for the fronts.  Anyone?

To R&R the front shocks, Yurik has previously described an alternate procedure that negates the need for spring compressors.

Ken


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Diesels have an extra pad.



> Ken Garratt <unclekenz@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
Peter,
My best guess is that the extra pad recovers all/some of the lost underside ground clearance
caused by the extra weight of the camper. I have that issue with my Syncro camper but so
far, not tackled this issue.
Ken'

-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Coe <peter@coeconsult.com.au>
Sent: Tuesday, 27 April 2010 3:24 PM
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Shocks


Thanks for your help here Ken. Mine has the black nylon pads you mentioned
and then an extra one at the top. Someone has done a mod in the past for
some reason.

Cheers, Peter




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Many thanks for OME references and suggestions. I noticed the Busstop are
selling what they call heavy duty oil shocks for the T3/T25. $134 each.
Brand is AL-KO from the photo on their website. Any opinions on these out in
Syncro land?

Cheers, Peter
11
Thanks to you both.

Francesca.

On 4/27/10, Peter Coe <peter@coeconsult.com.au> wrote:
> Many thanks for OME references and suggestions. I noticed the Busstop are
> selling what they call heavy duty oil shocks for the T3/T25. $134 each.
> Brand is AL-KO from the photo on their website. Any opinions on these out in
> Syncro land?
>
> Cheers, Peter
>
>
>
>
>
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Group,I fitted a full set of OldManEmu shocks to my bus last year,after they were recomended to me by Phil.(have you fitted them yet?).After new shocks,new tyres and a f/r wheel allignment,the bus never felt better.On and off-road.
I would recomend them as a stock replacement part.They perform very well,and they look good.
Replacing the front shocks is tricky.The use of a good spring compressor is important.If you are not confident with this type of work,then find someone who is,you could do yourself some serious damage.

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, Francesca Coles <fcoles6@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks to you both.
>
> Francesca.
>
> On 4/27/10, Peter Coe <peter@...> wrote:
> > Many thanks for OME references and suggestions. I noticed the Busstop are
> > selling what they call heavy duty oil shocks for the T3/T25. $134 each.
> > Brand is AL-KO from the photo on their website. Any opinions on these out in
> > Syncro land?
> >
> > Cheers, Peter
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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Peter,
 
AL-KO?
 
Two things ...
 
1. Dodgy Bros. comes immediately to mind ... haha.
 
2. The axiom .... you get what you pay for.
 
Good luck.
 
Ken 
 
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
From: peter@coeconsult.com.au
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 17:15:18 +1000
Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Shocks

 
Many thanks for OME references and suggestions. I noticed the Busstop are
selling what they call heavy duty oil shocks for the T3/T25. $134 each.
Brand is AL-KO from the photo on their website. Any opinions on these out in
Syncro land?

Cheers, Peter



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14
Benny,
So I take it from your reply that you are dismissive of Yuriks alternate method that does not require the use of spring compressors?
Ken 
 
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
From: bencroft96@yahoo.com
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 07:42:21 +0000
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Old Man Emu

 
Group,I fitted a full set of OldManEmu shocks to my bus last year,after they were recomended to me by Phil.(have you fitted them yet?).After new shocks,new tyres and a f/r wheel allignment,the bus never felt better.On and off-road.
I would recomend them as a stock replacement part.They perform very well,and they look good.
Replacing the front shocks is tricky.The use of a good spring compressor is important.If you are not confident with this type of work,then find someone who is,you could do yourself some serious damage.

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com, Francesca Coles <fcoles6@... > wrote:
>
> Thanks to you both.
>
> Francesca.
>
> On 4/27/10, Peter Coe <peter@...> wrote:
> > Many thanks for OME references and suggestions. I noticed the Busstop are
> > selling what they call heavy duty oil shocks for the T3/T25. $134 each.
> > Brand is AL-KO from the photo on their website. Any opinions on these out in
> > Syncro land?
> >
> > Cheers, Peter
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>



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Gary,

The procedure is described in the Files section in Syncro_T3_Austrlia as “Renewing front syncro shocks.doc” compiled and posted by Ken.

Regards

Yurik

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Sent: Tuesday, 27 April 2010 2:43 PM
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Shocks

 

 

Hmm not sure, think i'd prefer the stretching springs option just in case of an insurance problem.

 

I'd like to read that process if Yurik has it somewhere. Hartmut explained it to me but i've yet to put it into practise.

 

Gary

 

 

On 27/04/2010, at 4:30 PM, Ken Garratt wrote:



Gary,
Previous posters have suggested a suitable/cheap alternative is to make spacer disks from white kitchen cutting board material. Not sure if this works the same for the fronts.  Anyone?

To R&R the front shocks, Yurik has previously described an alternate procedure that negates the need for spring compressors.

Ken


-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Cookson <gary@twentytwentyone.net>
Sent: Tuesday, 27 April 2010 4:03 PM
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Shocks



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Ken,I dont know of Yuriks method.I am sure that he can do it without spring compressors,the man is extremley capable.It is not an easy job,anything to make this job easier.

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, Ken Garratt <unclekenz@...> wrote:
>
>
> Benny,
>
> So I take it from your reply that you are dismissive of Yuriks alternate method that does not require the use of spring compressors?
>
> Ken
>
>
>
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> From: bencroft96@...
> Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 07:42:21 +0000
> Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Old Man Emu
>
>
>
>
>
> Group,I fitted a full set of OldManEmu shocks to my bus last year,after they were recomended to me by Phil.(have you fitted them yet?).After new shocks,new tyres and a f/r wheel allignment,the bus never felt better.On and off-road.
> I would recomend them as a stock replacement part.They perform very well,and they look good.
> Replacing the front shocks is tricky.The use of a good spring compressor is important.If you are not confident with this type of work,then find someone who is,you could do yourself some serious damage.
>
> --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, Francesca Coles <fcoles6@> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks to you both.
> >
> > Francesca.
> >
> > On 4/27/10, Peter Coe <peter@> wrote:
> > > Many thanks for OME references and suggestions. I noticed the Busstop are
> > > selling what they call heavy duty oil shocks for the T3/T25. $134 each.
> > > Brand is AL-KO from the photo on their website. Any opinions on these out in
> > > Syncro land?
> > >
> > > Cheers, Peter
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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Next time I do front shocks on a Syncro I will try to follow the procedure in the files section,as it makes it sound like an easy job.I dont remember it being easy,maybe it was my method??

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "bencroft96" <bencroft96@...> wrote:
>
> Ken,I dont know of Yuriks method.I am sure that he can do it without spring compressors,the man is extremley capable.It is not an easy job,anything to make this job easier.
>
> --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, Ken Garratt <unclekenz@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Benny,
> >
> > So I take it from your reply that you are dismissive of Yuriks alternate method that does not require the use of spring compressors?
> >
> > Ken
> >
> >
> >
> > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > From: bencroft96@
> > Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 07:42:21 +0000
> > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Old Man Emu
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Group,I fitted a full set of OldManEmu shocks to my bus last year,after they were recomended to me by Phil.(have you fitted them yet?).After new shocks,new tyres and a f/r wheel allignment,the bus never felt better.On and off-road.
> > I would recomend them as a stock replacement part.They perform very well,and they look good.
> > Replacing the front shocks is tricky.The use of a good spring compressor is important.If you are not confident with this type of work,then find someone who is,you could do yourself some serious damage.
> >
> > --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, Francesca Coles <fcoles6@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanks to you both.
> > >
> > > Francesca.
> > >
> > > On 4/27/10, Peter Coe <peter@> wrote:
> > > > Many thanks for OME references and suggestions. I noticed the Busstop are
> > > > selling what they call heavy duty oil shocks for the T3/T25. $134 each.
> > > > Brand is AL-KO from the photo on their website. Any opinions on these out in
> > > > Syncro land?
> > > >
> > > > Cheers, Peter
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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> >
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Ben, I broke 2 sets of compressors, ok they came from  SCA but, the problem is space and of that we have not enough. I  then used the hydr car jack method , found it MUCH safer and much easier.

But you are well advised to use a guide rod say 10mm dia and threaded , I think it is 8mm , but check, you screw this rod of approx  200mm length to the top of the shock  (through the shock mounting hole to guide the shoc end into it’s position. The rest is peanuts.    Hartis

 

From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of bencroft96
Sent: Tuesday, 27 April 2010 8:17 PM
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Old Man Emu

 

 

Ken,I dont know of Yuriks method.I am sure that he can do it without spring compressors,the man is extremley capable.It is not an easy job,anything to make this job easier.

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, Ken Garratt <unclekenz@...> wrote:

>
>
> Benny,
>
> So I take it from your reply that you are dismissive of Yuriks alternate
method that does not require the use of spring compressors?
>
> Ken
>
>
>
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> From: bencroft96@...
> Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 07:42:21 +0000
> Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Old Man Emu
>
>
>
>
>
> Group,I fitted a full set of OldManEmu shocks to my bus last year,after
they were recomended to me by Phil.(have you fitted them yet?).After new shocks,new tyres and a f/r wheel allignment,the bus never felt better.On and off-road.
> I would recomend them as a stock replacement part.They perform very
well,and they look good.
> Replacing the front shocks is tricky.The use of a good spring compressor
is important.If you are not confident with this type of work,then find someone who is,you could do yourself some serious damage.
>
> --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com,
Francesca Coles <fcoles6@> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks to you both.
> >
> > Francesca.
> >
> > On 4/27/10, Peter Coe <peter@> wrote:
> > > Many thanks for OME references and suggestions. I noticed the
Busstop are
> > > selling what they call heavy duty oil shocks for the T3/T25.
$134 each.
> > > Brand is AL-KO from the photo on their website. Any opinions on
these out in
> > > Syncro land?
> > >
> > > Cheers, Peter
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
> __________________________________________________________
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>

19
Ken

Local ARB store very helpful. N38S $233. N37 $152. N38S in stock, N37 2 week
delay. Only issue now is to sort out whether the extra shims I have will
make a difference.

Cheers, Peter
20
Peter,
Those prices are exactly the same that I was quoted in December 2008. Probably means they are making such a killing, they might get embarrassed upping the prices.
 
If you want any comparative measurements between what you presently have installed and the OMEs, maybe for example the fully extended length of the rear shocks or anything else, I can easily check measure anything you may need on the workbench as my new OME set are not yet fitted. Let me know ok.
 
Cheers.
Ken
 
 
 
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
From: peter@coeconsult.com.au
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 15:45:15 +1000
Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Shocks

 
Ken

Local ARB store very helpful. N38S $233. N37 $152. N38S in stock, N37 2 week
delay. Only issue now is to sort out whether the extra shims I have will
make a difference.

Cheers, Peter



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