Hope this might help as I have had quite a bit of experience in international trade.When you are being quoted you need to know how much of the transit cost is included in the price ie you don't expect the price of a wheel to be the same if you collect it at the export factory door compared to the goods being delivered to your door in Melbourne with duty paid.
The commonly used 3 letter terms ex Europe are as follows with each subsequent term adding another stage and therefore a bit more cost to the price:
EXW (Ex Works -price of the goods at the seller"s premises)
FOB Bremerhaven (Free on Board - price of the goods including packaging and all charges up to delivery on board the ship at Bremerhaven.(Free alongside ship FAS is actually more accurate for a container ship).In these instances the shipping company would collect their freight charges from you before releasing the goods
CIF or CIP Melbourne (Cost Insurance Freight or Carriage and Insurance Paid to Melbourne as with FOB plus the cost of sea freight and insurance to Melboune is included in the price) As Gary says you can then either clear them through Customs yourself or pay a Customers broker to do it on your behalf and pehaps deliver them
DDU or DDP Melbourne (Delivered Duty Unpaid (any duty payable is paid by the importer to Customs) to a Melbourne address or Delivered Duty Paid to a Melbourne address. These terms would also apply if the goods come by airfreight. eg DHL rather than sea.
Give me a ring if you want more information.
Cheers
Roger
--- On Tue, 24/8/10, Gary Cookson <gary@twentytwentyone.net> wrote:
From: Gary Cookson <gary@twentytwentyone.net> Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Fwd: 15 and 16" wheel sets To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com Received: Tuesday, 24 August, 2010, 9:49 AM
I'm happy with a set of 5 of those assuming the Syncro Services ones are the same ones.
Importing is fairly easy (from my limited experience), in Europe they have access to much more in the way of discount shippers so they would be able to get a better price than we in Oz can. It's all based on cubic metres. You just get contacted by Aus customs when it arrives fill in some forms and pay some money and it gets delivered. Because it is likely to be a big pallet the forklift delivery is the likely stumbling block but SS may be able to advise on that. If it is in smaller boxes a hand unload by me would be fine. Some delivery trucks have a crane also.
Happy to help any way I can but would be good if you could organise the group purchase bit :-)
Cheers
Gary
On 24/08/2010, at 11:30 AM, Francesca Coles wrote:
Hi all,
Here's an image of the wheels in question (I hope I don't getting into trouble using Van Cafe's site for illustrative purposes only). They're probably not going to win any beauty contests, but seem solid and serviceable.
You seem to know a bit about importing stuff, Gary. Any tips appreciated.
Francesca,
http://www.van-cafe.com/home/van/page_845
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 11:20 AM, Gary Cookson <gary@twentytwentyone.net> wrote:
It still seems like a pretty good price assuming the delivery isn't too outrageous. I find with importing stuff you can do the clearance yourself to save money but it is a bit painful as there are all these little charges around the place.
Agreed re the alloys and the keep it simple approach. Be nice to have some wheels that I felt safe with. I';m sure the Mercs are ok but there is always a niggling doubt.
G
On 24/08/2010, at 11:11 AM, Francesca Coles wrote:
Thanks, Gary. The prices I gave were actually less VAT, but I hope he may be a little negotiable on price with a group order, and it is supposed to work out cheaper when buying by sets. That's a good offer of yours to take delivery of and store them once they arrive. I hadn't thought ahead that far! Yes, a pity about the GST.
It might all get a little complicated if we start factoring in other parts, but we'll see what people say. As part of the poll I would ask people to specify whether they want 15s or 16s, and whether four or five wheels. And also whether they need fastener sets. I might see if he has a better pic so that people can get a better idea of what they look like. Not as spiffy as the alloys, but like you I came to the conclusion that our van might look a bit like mutton dressed up as lamb with a set of alloy mags on...
Francesca.
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 10:02 AM, Gary Cookson <gary@twentytwentyone.net> wrote:
Hi Francesca, I'm definitely interested in a set of 15s but need 5 also. I've got some taper nuts already. Seeing as he is in Germany that price would include VAT so we ought to be getting them at 17.5% less. Not much of a pic on the site though to see what they look like. But properly rated which is a big plus.
We'll have to pay 10% GST on the complete delivery though. I can take delivery at my office if that helps which has a big roller door (but no fork lift). People can collect from me as and when. It wouldn't cost any more to add some other stuff into a parcel I imagine as it would travel as LCL (less than container load) so good chance to get decouplers, springs or whatever else needed by any other takers?
Cheers
Gary
Thanks, Les. I do wonder why they sell them in sets of four when everybody wants a proper spare. I was going to ask whether he'd consider selling sets of 5 (he doesn't specify on his site how many wheels constitute a set), or if we get enough takers we could order an extra set to be divvied up. Quite a few of us seem to have decouplers these days, it seems, anyway.Francesca. -----Original Message----- From: Les Harris Sent: 24/08/2010 9:10:36 am Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Fwd: 15 and 16" wheel sets A set of four wheels creates a problem. If you have to run on a spare of a different size, you put an immense load on the VC and the transmission because one axle will be running at a different speed to the other, even in a straight line. You can only circumvent this if you have a decoupler. Les _____ From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com[mailto: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Francesca Coles Sent: 24 August 2010 06:59 To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.comSubject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Fwd: 15 and 16" wheel sets Hi all, I made an enquiry with Syncro Services about purchasing their steel wheel sets. I think he is in a good position to work out the cheapest possible means of
shipping them to Australia by pallet being based in Bremerhaven, a major German sea port. At 53.36 Euros, a set of four wheels works out to $300 (minus any potential discount for the set). The 16-inch wheel sets are only slightly more at 56.47 Euros. Cheers, Francesca.
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