I have been told that I must drain and flush all of the old G11 coolant in order to use the latest coolant G12++ . Are there any alternatives ? I thought that the previous G12+ could be added to the old G11, was this correct, and if so is it still available or recommended ? Finally I have been told that Mercedes Benz still sell a blue G11 compatible coolant. Has anyone used or tried this. At this stage I do not have the time to drain and flush an entire system when I only need to add a cup full of coolant. Any suggestions ?
Nick,
Phill has covered this before, he can probably confirm G11 and G12+ are compatible.
Reading the following forum topic seems to confirm it also, any incompatibility appears to be only between G11 and G12.
Goto: http://forums.kombiclub.com/showthread.php?t=20322
There also seems to be recent mention of a replacement for G12+ ... by G12++. Compatible anyone? Colour? Shelf life?
Bit like a merry-go-round eh.
Cheers.
Ken
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
From: nick.bellgrove@tafesa.edu.au
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 01:58:42 +0000
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] G11 replacement / alternative
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Phill has covered this before, he can probably confirm G11 and G12+ are compatible.
Reading the following forum topic seems to confirm it also, any incompatibility appears to be only between G11 and G12.
Goto: http://forums.kombiclub.com/showthread.php?t=20322
There also seems to be recent mention of a replacement for G12+ ... by G12++. Compatible anyone? Colour? Shelf life?
Bit like a merry-go-round eh.
Cheers.
Ken
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
From: nick.bellgrove@tafesa.edu.au
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 01:58:42 +0000
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] G11 replacement / alternative
I have been told that I must drain and flush all of the old G11 coolant in order to use the latest coolant G12++ . Are there any alternatives ? I thought that the previous G12+ could be added to the old G11, was this correct, and if so is it still available or recommended ? Finally I have been told that Mercedes Benz still sell a blue G11 compatible coolant. Has anyone used or tried this. At this stage I do not have the time to drain and flush an entire system when I only need to add a cup full of coolant. Any suggestions ?
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I have not heard that G12++ cannot be added.
Try calling VW Australia. Don't trust what you hear from the local grease monkies.
Phill
Try calling VW Australia. Don't trust what you hear from the local grease monkies.
Phill
> nickbellau <nick.bellgrove@tafesa.edu.au> wrote:
>
> I have been told that I must drain and flush all of the old G11 coolant
> in order to use the latest coolant G12++ . Are there any alternatives ?
> I thought that the previous G12+ could be added to the old G11, was this
> correct, and if so is it still available or recommended ? Finally I have
> been told that Mercedes Benz still sell a blue G11 compatible coolant.
> Has anyone used or tried this. At this stage I do not have the time to
> drain and flush an entire system when I only need to add a cup full of
> coolant. Any suggestions ?
Ken,
Being a newcomer, you didn't know about G11V8 and G11V8II did you?
Phill
Being a newcomer, you didn't know about G11V8 and G11V8II did you?
Phill
> Ken Garratt <unclekenz@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Nick,
>
> Phill has covered this before, he can probably confirm G11 and G12+ are
> compatible.
>
>
>
> Reading the following forum topic seems to confirm it also, any
> incompatibility appears to be only between G11 and G12.
>
>
>
> Goto: http://forums.kombiclub.com/showthread.php?t=20322
>
>
>
> There also seems to be recent mention of a replacement for G12+ ... by
> G12++. Compatible anyone? Colour? Shelf life?
>
>
>
> Bit like a merry-go-round eh.
>
> Cheers.
>
> Ken
>
>
>
>
>
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> From: nick.bellgrove@tafesa.edu.au
> Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 01:58:42 +0000
> Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] G11 replacement / alternative
>
>
>
>
>
> I have been told that I must drain and flush all of the old G11 coolant
> in order to use the latest coolant G12++ . Are there any alternatives ?
> I thought that the previous G12+ could be added to the old G11, was this
> correct, and if so is it still available or recommended ? Finally I have
> been told that Mercedes Benz still sell a blue G11 compatible coolant.
> Has anyone used or tried this. At this stage I do not have the time to
> drain and flush an entire system when I only need to add a cup full of
> coolant. Any suggestions ?
>
>
>
>
>
> _________________________________________________________________
> Link all your email accounts and social updates with Hotmail. Find out
> now.
> http://windowslive.ninemsn.com.au/oneinbox?ocid=T162MSN05A0710G
Phill,
Nope. No idea. I'm pretty certain I don't want to know either haha.
Ken
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
From: plander@optusnet.com.au
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 20:08:39 +1100
Subject: Re: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] G11 replacement / alternative
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Nope. No idea. I'm pretty certain I don't want to know either haha.
Ken
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
From: plander@optusnet.com.au
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 20:08:39 +1100
Subject: Re: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] G11 replacement / alternative
Ken,
Being a newcomer, you didn't know about G11V8 and G11V8II did you?
Phill
Being a newcomer, you didn't know about G11V8 and G11V8II did you?
Phill
> Ken Garratt <unclekenz@hotmail. com> wrote:
>
>
> Nick,
>
> Phill has covered this before, he can probably confirm G11 and G12+ are
> compatible.
>
>
>
> Reading the following forum topic seems to confirm it also, any
> incompatibility appears to be only between G11 and G12.
>
>
>
> Goto: http://forums. kombiclub. com/showthread. php?t=20322
>
>
>
> There also seems to be recent mention of a replacement for G12+ ... by
> G12++. Compatible anyone? Colour? Shelf life?
>
>
>
> Bit like a merry-go-round eh.
>
> Cheers.
>
> Ken
>
>
>
>
>
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
> From: nick.bellgrove@ tafesa.edu. au
> Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 01:58:42 +0000
> Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australi a] G11 replacement / alternative
>
>
>
>
>
> I have been told that I must drain and flush all of the old G11 coolant
> in order to use the latest coolant G12++ . Are there any alternatives ?
> I thought that the previous G12+ could be added to the old G11, was this
> correct, and if so is it still available or recommended ? Finally I have
> been told that Mercedes Benz still sell a blue G11 compatible coolant.
> Has anyone used or tried this. At this stage I do not have the time to
> drain and flush an entire system when I only need to add a cup full of
> coolant. Any suggestions ?
>
>
>
>
>
> ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _
> Link all your email accounts and social updates with Hotmail. Find out
> now.
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You young blokes didn't live through the hard times! ;)
Phill
Phill
> Ken Garratt <unclekenz@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Phill,
>
> Nope. No idea. I'm pretty certain I don't want to know either haha.
>
> Ken
>
>
>
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> From: plander@optusnet.com.au
> Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 20:08:39 +1100
> Subject: Re: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] G11 replacement / alternative
>
>
>
>
>
> Ken,
>
> Being a newcomer, you didn't know about G11V8 and G11V8II did you?
>
> Phill
>
> > Ken Garratt <unclekenz@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Nick,
> >
> > Phill has covered this before, he can probably confirm G11 and G12+
> are
> > compatible.
> >
> >
> >
> > Reading the following forum topic seems to confirm it also, any
> > incompatibility appears to be only between G11 and G12.
> >
> >
> >
> > Goto: http://forums.kombiclub.com/showthread.php?t=20322
> >
> >
> >
> > There also seems to be recent mention of a replacement for G12+ ... by
>
> > G12++. Compatible anyone? Colour? Shelf life?
> >
> >
> >
> > Bit like a merry-go-round eh.
> >
> > Cheers.
> >
> > Ken
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > From: nick.bellgrove@tafesa.edu.au
> > Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 01:58:42 +0000
> > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] G11 replacement / alternative
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I have been told that I must drain and flush all of the old G11
> coolant
> > in order to use the latest coolant G12++ . Are there any alternatives
> ?
> > I thought that the previous G12+ could be added to the old G11, was
> this
> > correct, and if so is it still available or recommended ? Finally I
> have
> > been told that Mercedes Benz still sell a blue G11 compatible coolant.
>
> > Has anyone used or tried this. At this stage I do not have the time to
>
> > drain and flush an entire system when I only need to add a cup full of
>
> > coolant. Any suggestions ?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > __________________________________________________________
> > Link all your email accounts and social updates with Hotmail. Find out
>
> > now.
> > http://windowslive.ninemsn.com.au/oneinbox?ocid=T162MSN05A0710G
>
>
>
>
> _________________________________________________________________
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Phill,
It's a moot point, the need or not to know the myriad attributes/mixability of VW coolant ....
especially whilst driving in the distant past either a 1.6 or 2.0 litre Bay!!
No worries!!
Ken
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
From: plander@optusnet.com.au
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 20:35:44 +1100
Subject: Re: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] G11 replacement / alternative
Meet local singles online. Browse profiles for FREE!
It's a moot point, the need or not to know the myriad attributes/mixability of VW coolant ....
especially whilst driving in the distant past either a 1.6 or 2.0 litre Bay!!
No worries!!
Ken
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
From: plander@optusnet.com.au
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 20:35:44 +1100
Subject: Re: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] G11 replacement / alternative
You young blokes didn't live through the hard times! ;)
Phill
Phill
> Ken Garratt <unclekenz@hotmail. com> wrote:
>
>
> Phill,
>
> Nope. No idea. I'm pretty certain I don't want to know either haha.
>
> Ken
>
>
>
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
> From: plander@optusnet. com.au
> Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 20:08:39 +1100
> Subject: Re: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australi a] G11 replacement / alternative
>
>
>
>
>
> Ken,
>
> Being a newcomer, you didn't know about G11V8 and G11V8II did you?
>
> Phill
>
> > Ken Garratt <unclekenz@hotmail. com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Nick,
> >
> > Phill has covered this before, he can probably confirm G11 and G12+
> are
> > compatible.
> >
> >
> >
> > Reading the following forum topic seems to confirm it also, any
> > incompatibility appears to be only between G11 and G12.
> >
> >
> >
> > Goto: http://forums. kombiclub. com/showthread. php?t=20322
> >
> >
> >
> > There also seems to be recent mention of a replacement for G12+ ... by
>
> > G12++. Compatible anyone? Colour? Shelf life?
> >
> >
> >
> > Bit like a merry-go-round eh.
> >
> > Cheers.
> >
> > Ken
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
> > From: nick.bellgrove@ tafesa.edu. au
> > Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 01:58:42 +0000
> > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australi a] G11 replacement / alternative
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I have been told that I must drain and flush all of the old G11
> coolant
> > in order to use the latest coolant G12++ . Are there any alternatives
> ?
> > I thought that the previous G12+ could be added to the old G11, was
> this
> > correct, and if so is it still available or recommended ? Finally I
> have
> > been told that Mercedes Benz still sell a blue G11 compatible coolant.
>
> > Has anyone used or tried this. At this stage I do not have the time to
>
> > drain and flush an entire system when I only need to add a cup full of
>
> > coolant. Any suggestions ?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _
> > Link all your email accounts and social updates with Hotmail. Find out
>
> > now.
> > http://windowslive. ninemsn.com. au/oneinbox? ocid=T162MSN05A0 710G
>
>
>
>
> ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _
> Browse profiles for FREE! Meet local singles online.
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Hi All,
I dare not write this for the responses I am sure I am about to read.
Following advice from a local grease monkey, I have been using Nulon Red for a few years now. http://www.nulon.com.au/products/Red_Long_Life_Concentrated_Coolant/
My poor van came with rusty fluro green coolant. I didn't know the implications of said coolant at the time. Yes I've had to replace leaky radiator and a bunch of coolant pipes (including the go-westy fix on the long long pipes), but I put this down to age and past poor upkeep.
For a bit of a read regards coolants, there is this interesting link
http://www.vanagon.com/info/articles/coolants.htm
Sam
PS Gearbox finally gone now. New clutch and cv joints made a difference for a few months, and was what previously prevented shifting and made noise, but yep, definitely gearbox this time. Looking at getting one from the UK unless anyone has a better more cost effective lead. Hopefully will be able to get a locker, so some positives from this. Any tips on good shipping service also appreciated.
I dare not write this for the responses I am sure I am about to read.
Following advice from a local grease monkey, I have been using Nulon Red for a few years now. http://www.nulon.com.au/products/Red_Long_Life_Concentrated_Coolant/
My poor van came with rusty fluro green coolant. I didn't know the implications of said coolant at the time. Yes I've had to replace leaky radiator and a bunch of coolant pipes (including the go-westy fix on the long long pipes), but I put this down to age and past poor upkeep.
For a bit of a read regards coolants, there is this interesting link
http://www.vanagon.com/info/articles/coolants.htm
Sam
PS Gearbox finally gone now. New clutch and cv joints made a difference for a few months, and was what previously prevented shifting and made noise, but yep, definitely gearbox this time. Looking at getting one from the UK unless anyone has a better more cost effective lead. Hopefully will be able to get a locker, so some positives from this. Any tips on good shipping service also appreciated.
--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, Ken Garratt <unclekenz@...> wrote:
>
>
> Phill,
>
> It's a moot point, the need or not to know the myriad attributes/mixability of VW coolant ....
>
>
>
> especially whilst driving in the distant past either a 1.6 or 2.0 litre Bay!!
>
>
>
> No worries!!
>
>
>
> Ken
>
>
>
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> From: plander@...
> Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 20:35:44 +1100
> Subject: Re: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] G11 replacement / alternative
>
>
>
>
>
> You young blokes didn't live through the hard times! ;)
>
> Phill
>
> > Ken Garratt <unclekenz@...> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Phill,
> >
> > Nope. No idea. I'm pretty certain I don't want to know either haha.
> >
> > Ken
> >
> >
> >
> > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > From: plander@...
> > Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 20:08:39 +1100
> > Subject: Re: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] G11 replacement / alternative
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Ken,
> >
> > Being a newcomer, you didn't know about G11V8 and G11V8II did you?
> >
> > Phill
> >
> > > Ken Garratt <unclekenz@...> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Nick,
> > >
> > > Phill has covered this before, he can probably confirm G11 and G12+
> > are
> > > compatible.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Reading the following forum topic seems to confirm it also, any
> > > incompatibility appears to be only between G11 and G12.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Goto: http://forums.kombiclub.com/showthread.php?t=20322
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > There also seems to be recent mention of a replacement for G12+ ... by
> >
> > > G12++. Compatible anyone? Colour? Shelf life?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Bit like a merry-go-round eh.
> > >
> > > Cheers.
> > >
> > > Ken
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > > From: nick.bellgrove@...
> > > Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 01:58:42 +0000
> > > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] G11 replacement / alternative
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I have been told that I must drain and flush all of the old G11
> > coolant
> > > in order to use the latest coolant G12++ . Are there any alternatives
> > ?
> > > I thought that the previous G12+ could be added to the old G11, was
> > this
> > > correct, and if so is it still available or recommended ? Finally I
> > have
> > > been told that Mercedes Benz still sell a blue G11 compatible coolant.
> >
> > > Has anyone used or tried this. At this stage I do not have the time to
> >
> > > drain and flush an entire system when I only need to add a cup full of
> >
> > > coolant. Any suggestions ?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > __________________________________________________________
> > > Link all your email accounts and social updates with Hotmail. Find out
> >
> > > now.
> > > http://windowslive.ninemsn.com.au/oneinbox?ocid=T162MSN05A0710G
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > __________________________________________________________
> > Browse profiles for FREE! Meet local singles online.
> > http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/150855801/direct/01/
>
>
>
>
> _________________________________________________________________
> Browse profiles for FREE! Meet local singles online.
> http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/150855801/direct/01/
>
Gday Sam,
Like you, I also discovered my van had green coolant (definitely not blue/green colour of G11) when I first bought it, so quickly chose VAG approved G12+. I'm curious then why it was you didn't simply transition to G12+ also, especially as this topic and warnings has had a fair old workover during the past few years on this and other forums. Was the Nulon cheaper or some other reason?
Good luck with an exchange gearbox from OS. Others here know more about this issue, but do your research first and be sure the replacement gearbox has a crownwheel and pinion gear ratio that matches the CW&P gear ratio in your existing front diff. In your case, I'm uncertain whether you are running an Australian or American import gearbox and front diff, given your Westfalia import connections, hence my reason for drawing this to your attention.
Sam, I'm sure all of us would like to see you at the Nationals in Sydney in late May, even without the syncro ok. Any chance?
Cheers.
Ken
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
From: me@samarnold.org
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 12:16:33 +0000
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: G11 replacement / alternative
With all the latest places, searching has never been easier. Looking for a new home?
Like you, I also discovered my van had green coolant (definitely not blue/green colour of G11) when I first bought it, so quickly chose VAG approved G12+. I'm curious then why it was you didn't simply transition to G12+ also, especially as this topic and warnings has had a fair old workover during the past few years on this and other forums. Was the Nulon cheaper or some other reason?
Good luck with an exchange gearbox from OS. Others here know more about this issue, but do your research first and be sure the replacement gearbox has a crownwheel and pinion gear ratio that matches the CW&P gear ratio in your existing front diff. In your case, I'm uncertain whether you are running an Australian or American import gearbox and front diff, given your Westfalia import connections, hence my reason for drawing this to your attention.
Sam, I'm sure all of us would like to see you at the Nationals in Sydney in late May, even without the syncro ok. Any chance?
Cheers.
Ken
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
From: me@samarnold.org
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 12:16:33 +0000
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: G11 replacement / alternative
Hi All,
I dare not write this for the responses I am sure I am about to read.
Following advice from a local grease monkey, I have been using Nulon Red for a few years now. http://www.nulon. com.au/products/ Red_Long_ Life_Concentrate d_Coolant/
My poor van came with rusty fluro green coolant. I didn't know the implications of said coolant at the time. Yes I've had to replace leaky radiator and a bunch of coolant pipes (including the go-westy fix on the long long pipes), but I put this down to age and past poor upkeep.
For a bit of a read regards coolants, there is this interesting link
http://www.vanagon. com/info/ articles/ coolants. htm
Sam
PS Gearbox finally gone now. New clutch and cv joints made a difference for a few months, and was what previously prevented shifting and made noise, but yep, definitely gearbox this time. Looking at getting one from the UK unless anyone has a better more cost effective lead. Hopefully will be able to get a locker, so some positives from this. Any tips on good shipping service also appreciated.
I dare not write this for the responses I am sure I am about to read.
Following advice from a local grease monkey, I have been using Nulon Red for a few years now. http://www.nulon. com.au/products/ Red_Long_ Life_Concentrate d_Coolant/
My poor van came with rusty fluro green coolant. I didn't know the implications of said coolant at the time. Yes I've had to replace leaky radiator and a bunch of coolant pipes (including the go-westy fix on the long long pipes), but I put this down to age and past poor upkeep.
For a bit of a read regards coolants, there is this interesting link
http://www.vanagon. com/info/ articles/ coolants. htm
Sam
PS Gearbox finally gone now. New clutch and cv joints made a difference for a few months, and was what previously prevented shifting and made noise, but yep, definitely gearbox this time. Looking at getting one from the UK unless anyone has a better more cost effective lead. Hopefully will be able to get a locker, so some positives from this. Any tips on good shipping service also appreciated.
--- In Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com, Ken Garratt <unclekenz@. ..> wrote:
>
>
> Phill,
>
> It's a moot point, the need or not to know the myriad attributes/mixabili ty of VW coolant ....
>
>
>
> especially whilst driving in the distant past either a 1.6 or 2.0 litre Bay!!
>
>
>
> No worries!!
>
>
>
> Ken
>
>
>
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
> From: plander@...
> Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 20:35:44 +1100
> Subject: Re: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australi a] G11 replacement / alternative
>
>
>
>
>
> You young blokes didn't live through the hard times! ;)
>
> Phill
>
> > Ken Garratt <unclekenz@. ..> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Phill,
> >
> > Nope. No idea. I'm pretty certain I don't want to know either haha.
> >
> > Ken
> >
> >
> >
> > To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
> > From: plander@...
> > Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 20:08:39 +1100
> > Subject: Re: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australi a] G11 replacement / alternative
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Ken,
> >
> > Being a newcomer, you didn't know about G11V8 and G11V8II did you?
> >
> > Phill
> >
> > > Ken Garratt <unclekenz@. ..> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Nick,
> > >
> > > Phill has covered this before, he can probably confirm G11 and G12+
> > are
> > > compatible.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Reading the following forum topic seems to confirm it also, any
> > > incompatibility appears to be only between G11 and G12.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Goto: http://forums. kombiclub. com/showthread. php?t=20322
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > There also seems to be recent mention of a replacement for G12+ ... by
> >
> > > G12++. Compatible anyone? Colour? Shelf life?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Bit like a merry-go-round eh.
> > >
> > > Cheers.
> > >
> > > Ken
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
> > > From: nick.bellgrove@ ...
> > > Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 01:58:42 +0000
> > > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australi a] G11 replacement / alternative
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I have been told that I must drain and flush all of the old G11
> > coolant
> > > in order to use the latest coolant G12++ . Are there any alternatives
> > ?
> > > I thought that the previous G12+ could be added to the old G11, was
> > this
> > > correct, and if so is it still available or recommended ? Finally I
> > have
> > > been told that Mercedes Benz still sell a blue G11 compatible coolant.
> >
> > > Has anyone used or tried this. At this stage I do not have the time to
> >
> > > drain and flush an entire system when I only need to add a cup full of
> >
> > > coolant. Any suggestions ?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _
> > > Link all your email accounts and social updates with Hotmail. Find out
> >
> > > now.
> > > http://windowslive. ninemsn.com. au/oneinbox? ocid=T162MSN05A0 710G
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _
> > Browse profiles for FREE! Meet local singles online.
> > http://clk.atdmt. com/NMN/go/ 150855801/ direct/01/
>
>
>
>
> ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _
> Browse profiles for FREE! Meet local singles online.
> http://clk.atdmt. com/NMN/go/ 150855801/ direct/01/
>
With all the latest places, searching has never been easier. Looking for a new home?
Sam,
Also try Stuart Stirling from South Africa.
I found him excellent to deal with - he has loads of Syncro
specific parts and can organise freight for you.
Stuarts email is as per below:
Best of luck.
I know Jon over in Perth was selling a factory crown wheel
& pinion set recently but I am not sure if he sold it.
Cheers,
Scott
----- Original Message -----From: Ken GarrattSent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 1:22 AMSubject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: G11 replacement / alternativeGday Sam,
Like you, I also discovered my van had green coolant (definitely not blue/green colour of G11) when I first bought it, so quickly chose VAG approved G12+. I'm curious then why it was you didn't simply transition to G12+ also, especially as this topic and warnings has had a fair old workover during the past few years on this and other forums. Was the Nulon cheaper or some other reason?
Good luck with an exchange gearbox from OS. Others here know more about this issue, but do your research first and be sure the replacement gearbox has a crownwheel and pinion gear ratio that matches the CW&P gear ratio in your existing front diff. In your case, I'm uncertain whether you are running an Australian or American import gearbox and front diff, given your Westfalia import connections, hence my reason for drawing this to your attention.
Sam, I'm sure all of us would like to see you at the Nationals in Sydney in late May, even without the syncro ok. Any chance?
Cheers.
Ken
To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
From: me@samarnold. org
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 12:16:33 +0000
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australi a] Re: G11 replacement / alternative
Hi All,
I dare not write this for the responses I am sure I am about to read.
Following advice from a local grease monkey, I have been using Nulon Red for a few years now. http://www.nulon. com.au/products/ Red_Long_ Life_Concentrate d_Coolant/
My poor van came with rusty fluro green coolant. I didn't know the implications of said coolant at the time. Yes I've had to replace leaky radiator and a bunch of coolant pipes (including the go-westy fix on the long long pipes), but I put this down to age and past poor upkeep.
For a bit of a read regards coolants, there is this interesting link
http://www.vanagon. com/info/ articles/ coolants. htm
Sam
PS Gearbox finally gone now. New clutch and cv joints made a difference for a few months, and was what previously prevented shifting and made noise, but yep, definitely gearbox this time. Looking at getting one from the UK unless anyone has a better more cost effective lead. Hopefully will be able to get a locker, so some positives from this. Any tips on good shipping service also appreciated.
--- In Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com, Ken Garratt <unclekenz@. ..> wrote:
>
>
> Phill,
>
> It's a moot point, the need or not to know the myriad attributes/mixabili ty of VW coolant ....
>
>
>
> especially whilst driving in the distant past either a 1.6 or 2.0 litre Bay!!
>
>
>
> No worries!!
>
>
>
> Ken
>
>
>
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
> From: plander@...
> Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 20:35:44 +1100
> Subject: Re: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australi a] G11 replacement / alternative
>
>
>
>
>
> You young blokes didn't live through the hard times! ;)
>
> Phill
>
> > Ken Garratt <unclekenz@. ..> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Phill,
> >
> > Nope. No idea. I'm pretty certain I don't want to know either haha.
> >
> > Ken
> >
> >
> >
> > To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
> > From: plander@...
> > Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 20:08:39 +1100
> > Subject: Re: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australi a] G11 replacement / alternative
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Ken,
> >
> > Being a newcomer, you didn't know about G11V8 and G11V8II did you?
> >
> > Phill
> >
> > > Ken Garratt <unclekenz@. ..> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Nick,
> > >
> > > Phill has covered this before, he can probably confirm G11 and G12+
> > are
> > > compatible.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Reading the following forum topic seems to confirm it also, any
> > > incompatibility appears to be only between G11 and G12.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Goto: http://forums. kombiclub. com/showthread. php?t=20322
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > There also seems to be recent mention of a replacement for G12+ ... by
> >
> > > G12++. Compatible anyone? Colour? Shelf life?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Bit like a merry-go-round eh.
> > >
> > > Cheers.
> > >
> > > Ken
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
> > > From: nick.bellgrove@ ...
> > > Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 01:58:42 +0000
> > > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australi a] G11 replacement / alternative
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I have been told that I must drain and flush all of the old G11
> > coolant
> > > in order to use the latest coolant G12++ . Are there any alternatives
> > ?
> > > I thought that the previous G12+ could be added to the old G11, was
> > this
> > > correct, and if so is it still available or recommended ? Finally I
> > have
> > > been told that Mercedes Benz still sell a blue G11 compatible coolant.
> >
> > > Has anyone used or tried this. At this stage I do not have the time to
> >
> > > drain and flush an entire system when I only need to add a cup full of
> >
> > > coolant. Any suggestions ?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _
> > > Link all your email accounts and social updates with Hotmail. Find out
> >
> > > now.
> > > http://windowslive. ninemsn.com. au/oneinbox? ocid=T162MSN05A0 710G
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _
> > Browse profiles for FREE! Meet local singles online.
> > http://clk.atdmt. com/NMN/go/ 150855801/ direct/01/
>
>
>
>
> ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _
> Browse profiles for FREE! Meet local singles online.
> http://clk.atdmt. com/NMN/go/ 150855801/ direct/01/
>
With all the latest places, searching has never been easier. Looking for a new home?
Hi Ken,
Yep, it's in the diary, so hopefully I should make it this year. Sorry been a bit busy, did the conversation on a NSW meet-up get anywhere, apart from the nationals? Once I am back on the road would love to do another weekend away somewhere not too far away :)
Yes the Nulon was cheaper and more importantly easier to access at the time when I needed to get things done, and a 'VW specialist' told me it would be fine. .... But isn't there something to do with the particular head gasket materials?
Yes know all about the need to get matching ratios for front and rear diff. It would seem I am better off importing a gearbox/diff from overseas than sourcing one locally.
Sam
Yep, it's in the diary, so hopefully I should make it this year. Sorry been a bit busy, did the conversation on a NSW meet-up get anywhere, apart from the nationals? Once I am back on the road would love to do another weekend away somewhere not too far away :)
Yes the Nulon was cheaper and more importantly easier to access at the time when I needed to get things done, and a 'VW specialist' told me it would be fine. .... But isn't there something to do with the particular head gasket materials?
Yes know all about the need to get matching ratios for front and rear diff. It would seem I am better off importing a gearbox/diff from overseas than sourcing one locally.
Sam
--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, Ken Garratt <unclekenz@...> wrote:
>
>
> Gday Sam,
>
> Like you, I also discovered my van had green coolant (definitely not blue/green colour of G11) when I first bought it, so quickly chose VAG approved G12+. I'm curious then why it was you didn't simply transition to G12+ also, especially as this topic and warnings has had a fair old workover during the past few years on this and other forums. Was the Nulon cheaper or some other reason?
>
>
>
> Good luck with an exchange gearbox from OS. Others here know more about this issue, but do your research first and be sure the replacement gearbox has a crownwheel and pinion gear ratio that matches the CW&P gear ratio in your existing front diff. In your case, I'm uncertain whether you are running an Australian or American import gearbox and front diff, given your Westfalia import connections, hence my reason for drawing this to your attention.
>
>
>
> Sam, I'm sure all of us would like to see you at the Nationals in Sydney in late May, even without the syncro ok. Any chance?
>
> Cheers.
>
> Ken
>
>
>
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> From: me@...
> Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 12:16:33 +0000
> Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: G11 replacement / alternative
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi All,
>
> I dare not write this for the responses I am sure I am about to read.
>
> Following advice from a local grease monkey, I have been using Nulon Red for a few years now. http://www.nulon.com.au/products/Red_Long_Life_Concentrated_Coolant/
>
> My poor van came with rusty fluro green coolant. I didn't know the implications of said coolant at the time. Yes I've had to replace leaky radiator and a bunch of coolant pipes (including the go-westy fix on the long long pipes), but I put this down to age and past poor upkeep.
>
> For a bit of a read regards coolants, there is this interesting link
> http://www.vanagon.com/info/articles/coolants.htm
>
> Sam
>
> PS Gearbox finally gone now. New clutch and cv joints made a difference for a few months, and was what previously prevented shifting and made noise, but yep, definitely gearbox this time. Looking at getting one from the UK unless anyone has a better more cost effective lead. Hopefully will be able to get a locker, so some positives from this. Any tips on good shipping service also appreciated.
>
> --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, Ken Garratt <unclekenz@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Phill,
> >
> > It's a moot point, the need or not to know the myriad attributes/mixability of VW coolant ....
> >
> >
> >
> > especially whilst driving in the distant past either a 1.6 or 2.0 litre Bay!!
> >
> >
> >
> > No worries!!
> >
> >
> >
> > Ken
> >
> >
> >
> > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > From: plander@
> > Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 20:35:44 +1100
> > Subject: Re: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] G11 replacement / alternative
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > You young blokes didn't live through the hard times! ;)
> >
> > Phill
> >
> > > Ken Garratt <unclekenz@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Phill,
> > >
> > > Nope. No idea. I'm pretty certain I don't want to know either haha.
> > >
> > > Ken
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > > From: plander@
> > > Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 20:08:39 +1100
> > > Subject: Re: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] G11 replacement / alternative
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Ken,
> > >
> > > Being a newcomer, you didn't know about G11V8 and G11V8II did you?
> > >
> > > Phill
> > >
> > > > Ken Garratt <unclekenz@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Nick,
> > > >
> > > > Phill has covered this before, he can probably confirm G11 and G12+
> > > are
> > > > compatible.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Reading the following forum topic seems to confirm it also, any
> > > > incompatibility appears to be only between G11 and G12.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Goto: http://forums.kombiclub.com/showthread.php?t=20322
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > There also seems to be recent mention of a replacement for G12+ ... by
> > >
> > > > G12++. Compatible anyone? Colour? Shelf life?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Bit like a merry-go-round eh.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers.
> > > >
> > > > Ken
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > > > From: nick.bellgrove@
> > > > Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 01:58:42 +0000
> > > > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] G11 replacement / alternative
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I have been told that I must drain and flush all of the old G11
> > > coolant
> > > > in order to use the latest coolant G12++ . Are there any alternatives
> > > ?
> > > > I thought that the previous G12+ could be added to the old G11, was
> > > this
> > > > correct, and if so is it still available or recommended ? Finally I
> > > have
> > > > been told that Mercedes Benz still sell a blue G11 compatible coolant.
> > >
> > > > Has anyone used or tried this. At this stage I do not have the time to
> > >
> > > > drain and flush an entire system when I only need to add a cup full of
> > >
> > > > coolant. Any suggestions ?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > __________________________________________________________
> > > > Link all your email accounts and social updates with Hotmail. Find out
> > >
> > > > now.
> > > > http://windowslive.ninemsn.com.au/oneinbox?ocid=T162MSN05A0710G
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > __________________________________________________________
> > > Browse profiles for FREE! Meet local singles online.
> > > http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/150855801/direct/01/
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > __________________________________________________________
> > Browse profiles for FREE! Meet local singles online.
> > http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/150855801/direct/01/
> >
>
>
>
>
>
> _________________________________________________________________
> Looking for a new home? With all the latest places, searching has never been easier.
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>
Sam,
Good to hear back from you.
The Sydney Nationals in May seems to be the only confirmed Sydney region syncro meet that I'm aware of. Be a great opportunity to get together and have a tipple re syncro 25th anniversary celebs etc etc. Maybe the topic of a weekend camping trip could be discussed there on the day.
For me, changing to G12+ was a logical move and provided me the opportunity to at least cross off this item from the "to do" list at the time and move on. Navel gazing about coolant proerties or alternatives ..... nah ... don't want to know .. sorry.
Remember if you buy a locking diff, you'll need the complete wiring, vacuum and electrical kit as well to use it, maybe your OS supplier can help with assembling together all those secondhand components as well. After that, then you can add a decoupler and after that you can buy a solid shaft if your VC is cactus ... and so on and so forth. Oh dear, go visit your bank manager again!
Cheers.
Ken
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
From: me@samarnold.org
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 22:49:01 +0000
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: G11 replacement / alternative
With all the latest places, searching has never been easier. Looking for a new home?
Good to hear back from you.
The Sydney Nationals in May seems to be the only confirmed Sydney region syncro meet that I'm aware of. Be a great opportunity to get together and have a tipple re syncro 25th anniversary celebs etc etc. Maybe the topic of a weekend camping trip could be discussed there on the day.
For me, changing to G12+ was a logical move and provided me the opportunity to at least cross off this item from the "to do" list at the time and move on. Navel gazing about coolant proerties or alternatives ..... nah ... don't want to know .. sorry.
Remember if you buy a locking diff, you'll need the complete wiring, vacuum and electrical kit as well to use it, maybe your OS supplier can help with assembling together all those secondhand components as well. After that, then you can add a decoupler and after that you can buy a solid shaft if your VC is cactus ... and so on and so forth. Oh dear, go visit your bank manager again!
Cheers.
Ken
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
From: me@samarnold.org
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 22:49:01 +0000
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: G11 replacement / alternative
Hi Ken,
Yep, it's in the diary, so hopefully I should make it this year. Sorry been a bit busy, did the conversation on a NSW meet-up get anywhere, apart from the nationals? Once I am back on the road would love to do another weekend away somewhere not too far away :)
Yes the Nulon was cheaper and more importantly easier to access at the time when I needed to get things done, and a 'VW specialist' told me it would be fine. .... But isn't there something to do with the particular head gasket materials?
Yes know all about the need to get matching ratios for front and rear diff. It would seem I am better off importing a gearbox/diff from overseas than sourcing one locally.
Sam
Yep, it's in the diary, so hopefully I should make it this year. Sorry been a bit busy, did the conversation on a NSW meet-up get anywhere, apart from the nationals? Once I am back on the road would love to do another weekend away somewhere not too far away :)
Yes the Nulon was cheaper and more importantly easier to access at the time when I needed to get things done, and a 'VW specialist' told me it would be fine. .... But isn't there something to do with the particular head gasket materials?
Yes know all about the need to get matching ratios for front and rear diff. It would seem I am better off importing a gearbox/diff from overseas than sourcing one locally.
Sam
--- In Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com, Ken Garratt <unclekenz@. ..> wrote:
>
>
> Gday Sam,
>
> Like you, I also discovered my van had green coolant (definitely not blue/green colour of G11) when I first bought it, so quickly chose VAG approved G12+. I'm curious then why it was you didn't simply transition to G12+ also, especially as this topic and warnings has had a fair old workover during the past few years on this and other forums. Was the Nulon cheaper or some other reason?
>
>
>
> Good luck with an exchange gearbox from OS. Others here know more about this issue, but do your research first and be sure the replacement gearbox has a crownwheel and pinion gear ratio that matches the CW&P gear ratio in your existing front diff. In your case, I'm uncertain whether you are running an Australian or American import gearbox and front diff, given your Westfalia import connections, hence my reason for drawing this to your attention.
>
>
>
> Sam, I'm sure all of us would like to see you at the Nationals in Sydney in late May, even without the syncro ok. Any chance?
>
> Cheers.
>
> Ken
>
>
>
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
> From: me@...
> Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 12:16:33 +0000
> Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australi a] Re: G11 replacement / alternative
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi All,
>
> I dare not write this for the responses I am sure I am about to read.
>
> Following advice from a local grease monkey, I have been using Nulon Red for a few years now. http://www.nulon. com.au/products/ Red_Long_ Life_Concentrate d_Coolant/
>
> My poor van came with rusty fluro green coolant. I didn't know the implications of said coolant at the time. Yes I've had to replace leaky radiator and a bunch of coolant pipes (including the go-westy fix on the long long pipes), but I put this down to age and past poor upkeep.
>
> For a bit of a read regards coolants, there is this interesting link
> http://www.vanagon. com/info/ articles/ coolants. htm
>
> Sam
>
> PS Gearbox finally gone now. New clutch and cv joints made a difference for a few months, and was what previously prevented shifting and made noise, but yep, definitely gearbox this time. Looking at getting one from the UK unless anyone has a better more cost effective lead. Hopefully will be able to get a locker, so some positives from this. Any tips on good shipping service also appreciated.
>
> --- In Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com, Ken Garratt <unclekenz@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Phill,
> >
> > It's a moot point, the need or not to know the myriad attributes/mixabili ty of VW coolant ....
> >
> >
> >
> > especially whilst driving in the distant past either a 1.6 or 2.0 litre Bay!!
> >
> >
> >
> > No worries!!
> >
> >
> >
> > Ken
> >
> >
> >
> > To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
> > From: plander@
> > Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 20:35:44 +1100
> > Subject: Re: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australi a] G11 replacement / alternative
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > You young blokes didn't live through the hard times! ;)
> >
> > Phill
> >
> > > Ken Garratt <unclekenz@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Phill,
> > >
> > > Nope. No idea. I'm pretty certain I don't want to know either haha.
> > >
> > > Ken
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
> > > From: plander@
> > > Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 20:08:39 +1100
> > > Subject: Re: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australi a] G11 replacement / alternative
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Ken,
> > >
> > > Being a newcomer, you didn't know about G11V8 and G11V8II did you?
> > >
> > > Phill
> > >
> > > > Ken Garratt <unclekenz@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Nick,
> > > >
> > > > Phill has covered this before, he can probably confirm G11 and G12+
> > > are
> > > > compatible.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Reading the following forum topic seems to confirm it also, any
> > > > incompatibility appears to be only between G11 and G12.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Goto: http://forums. kombiclub. com/showthread. php?t=20322
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > There also seems to be recent mention of a replacement for G12+ ... by
> > >
> > > > G12++. Compatible anyone? Colour? Shelf life?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Bit like a merry-go-round eh.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers.
> > > >
> > > > Ken
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
> > > > From: nick.bellgrove@
> > > > Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 01:58:42 +0000
> > > > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australi a] G11 replacement / alternative
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I have been told that I must drain and flush all of the old G11
> > > coolant
> > > > in order to use the latest coolant G12++ . Are there any alternatives
> > > ?
> > > > I thought that the previous G12+ could be added to the old G11, was
> > > this
> > > > correct, and if so is it still available or recommended ? Finally I
> > > have
> > > > been told that Mercedes Benz still sell a blue G11 compatible coolant.
> > >
> > > > Has anyone used or tried this. At this stage I do not have the time to
> > >
> > > > drain and flush an entire system when I only need to add a cup full of
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