Gas Bottle Storage - Trakka campers

Hello all

My first of what will no doubt be many questions.

Can Trakka owners advise what if any issues they have with regard to the Gas Bottle being stored below the swing out gas cookers.i.e - How is this viewed by the various authorities when it is time to register the vehicle. (or do you simply remove the unit before taking over the pits?)

Regards

Glenn
--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "gburgss" <gburgss@...> wrote:
>
> Hello all
>
> My first of what will no doubt be many questions.
>
> Can Trakka owners advise what if any issues they have with regard to the Gas Bottle being stored below the swing out gas cookers.i.e - How is this viewed by the various authorities when it is time to register the vehicle. (or do you simply remove the unit before taking over the pits?)
>
> Regards
>
> Glenn
>
Silly Question - How do I get my full name to appear in the 'Author' section like everyone else.
Hi Glenn,
Fortunately I bought my Trakka in the same State it was already registered, so I had no problem with current registration transfer, hence no pit inspection and gas bottles left in the cooker cupboard.
So I'm assuming you have purchased an interstate vehicle and so it requires re-registration in a different State, hence the pit inspection and your concerns.

Firstly, is there any documentary evidence that the vehicle has previously been registered in your own State? This may help your case.
Do you have detailed Trakka conversion original documentation for this vehicle? This also should help your case.
Is there in place a Trakka compliance plate rivetted to the vehicle, perhaps located near the vehicles VIN compliance plate located under the drivers side dash?
Or else it may be located on the vertical face of the drivers side foot-well. This may also help, especially together with the above-mentioned documentation.

I'm unaware of any State retrospective Traffic Authority rules that reverse/cancel a previously approved/certified fit out.
The trick is to avoid any scenario in which a vehicle requires a pit inspection, be it a change of State re-registration or else a same State too long lapsed registration seeking re-registration. You run the risk of officialdom being able to play god with your vehicle pit inspection rulings.
What's the chance an inspector won't look inside the cooker cupboard!! HA!

Someone else here must have already been through a Trakka change of State re-registration process, they may be able to offer you more definitive info. Good luck.
Cheers.
Ken





To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
From: gburgss@yahoo.com.au
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 09:27:42 +0000
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Gas Bottle Storage - Trakka campers

 
Hello all

My first of what will no doubt be many questions.

Can Trakka owners advise what if any issues they have with regard to the Gas Bottle being stored below the swing out gas cookers.i.e - How is this viewed by the various authorities when it is time to register the vehicle. (or do you simply remove the unit before taking over the pits?)

Regards

Glenn


Hi Glenn, This may not be what you want to hear but the first thing I did when I bought my bus was remove the swing out. They are too big, too heavy and frankly useless. A portable two burner is far better. Also the issue you touched on - I don't want to sleep with gas bottles and gas fridges. Two way and solar is the way to go imho. Greg E

From: gburgss <gburgss@yahoo.com.au>
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, 29 November 2012 8:27 PM
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Gas Bottle Storage - Trakka campers
 
Hello all

My first of what will no doubt be many questions.

Can Trakka owners advise what if any issues they have with regard to the Gas Bottle being stored below the swing out gas cookers.i.e - How is this viewed by the various authorities when it is time to register the vehicle. (or do you simply remove the unit before taking over the pits?)

Regards

Glenn

Greg,

My thoughts exactly.

I built one of these swing out cookers and had a 3 way fridge - both now gone - hated them both as they are smelly and in the case of the fridge - very inefficient.

I now have lots more room (once I chuck all the wife and kids stuff in the awning) and a fridge that holds heaps and works great without any smell to gas out the occupants or risk of fire.

Very happy with my current set up although a solar panel set up is on the cards.

Cheers,

Skot


On 29/11/2012 9:24 PM, greg esposito wrote:
Hi Glenn, This may not be what you want to hear but the first thing I did when I bought my bus was remove the swing out. They are too big, too heavy and frankly useless. A portable two burner is far better. Also the issue you touched on - I don't want to sleep with gas bottles and gas fridges. Two way and solar is the way to go imho. Greg E

From: gburgss <gburgss@yahoo.com.au>
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, 29 November 2012 8:27 PM
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Gas Bottle Storage - Trakka campers
Hello all

My first of what will no doubt be many questions.

Can Trakka owners advise what if any issues they have with regard to the Gas Bottle being stored below the swing out gas cookers.i.e - How is this viewed by the various authorities when it is time to register the vehicle. (or do you simply remove the unit before taking over the pits?)

Regards

Glenn


Ken, Greg, Skot

Thanks for the input. Livivng in Tasmania there is every chance I will have to do a change of registration when I buy one (Hopefully Harts).

Options would be to remove alltogether or install a vented 'locker' (no nothing to do with diffs!) on the drivers side and loose some cupboard space.

I certainly wouldn't be cooking eggs and bacon inside the van but like the idea of being able to boil water for a brew.

With 2 young children I take onboard Skots comment about extra space.

Regards

Glenn

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, Mr Scott Pitcher <spbconsulting@...> wrote:
>
> Greg,
>
> My thoughts exactly.
>
> I built one of these swing out cookers and had a 3 way fridge - both now
> gone - hated them both as they are smelly and in the case of the fridge
> - very inefficient.
>
> I now have lots more room (once I chuck all the wife and kids stuff in
> the awning) and a fridge that holds heaps and works great without any
> smell to gas out the occupants or risk of fire.
>
> Very happy with my current set up although a solar panel set up is on
> the cards.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Skot
>
>
> On 29/11/2012 9:24 PM, greg esposito wrote:
> > Hi Glenn, This may not be what you want to hear but the first thing I
> > did when I bought my bus was remove the swing out. They are too big,
> > too heavy and frankly useless. A portable two burner is far better.
> > Also the issue you touched on - I don't want to sleep with gas bottles
> > and gas fridges. Two way and solar is the way to go imho. Greg E
> >
> > *From:* gburgss <gburgss@...>
> > *To:* Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > *Sent:* Thursday, 29 November 2012 8:27 PM
> > *Subject:* [Syncro_T3_Australia] Gas Bottle Storage - Trakka campers
> > Hello all
> >
> > My first of what will no doubt be many questions.
> >
> > Can Trakka owners advise what if any issues they have with regard to
> > the Gas Bottle being stored below the swing out gas cookers.i.e - How
> > is this viewed by the various authorities when it is time to register
> > the vehicle. (or do you simply remove the unit before taking over the
> > pits?)
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Glenn
> >
> >
>
Glenn,

Just to fly the flag for the Trakka gas cooker cupboard and add some balance to this topic.

I agree a danger potential is there. I have heard of death during sleep by gassing. Premeditated? Negligent? Good practice?
I don't recall any report of a T3 Trakka camper being gutted by fire from a gas bottle incident in the cooker cupboard. Is this based on pure luck or good practice?
But I have seen online T3 vans gutted by fire from a fault arising in the engine bay. So I ask you, where is the REAL danger?

Treated with all due respect/diligence the gas bottle & cooker installation, including periodic maintenance of the cooker appliance, checking and if necessary the replacement of the gas bottle hose and replacement of all O-Rings/flat rubber washers to gas fittings plus turning the gas bottle off after each use ... all these are a no brainer and stand a user and their children in good stead. I contend your concerns emanate from instances where this good practice has not occurred.

My Trakker cooker cupboard is terrific. Works just fine. Swings in and out as required. In shite weather, makes a great cup of tea or coffee and toast inside, no problem. In great weather, cook outside whatever you like with it!

I wouldn't leave home without it.

Cheers.

Ken  


To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
From: gburgss@yahoo.com.au
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 19:44:38 +0000
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Gas Bottle Storage - Trakka campers

 
Ken, Greg, Skot

Thanks for the input. Livivng in Tasmania there is every chance I will have to do a change of registration when I buy one (Hopefully Harts).

Options would be to remove alltogether or install a vented 'locker' (no nothing to do with diffs!) on the drivers side and loose some cupboard space.

I certainly wouldn't be cooking eggs and bacon inside the van but like the idea of being able to boil water for a brew.

With 2 young children I take onboard Skots comment about extra space.

Regards

Glenn

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, Mr Scott Pitcher <spbconsulting@...> wrote:
>
> Greg,
>
> My thoughts exactly.
>
> I built one of these swing out cookers and had a 3 way fridge - both now
> gone - hated them both as they are smelly and in the case of the fridge
> - very inefficient.
>
> I now have lots more room (once I chuck all the wife and kids stuff in
> the awning) and a fridge that holds heaps and works great without any
> smell to gas out the occupants or risk of fire.
>
> Very happy with my current set up although a solar panel set up is on
> the cards.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Skot
>
>
> On 29/11/2012 9:24 PM, greg esposito wrote:
> > Hi Glenn, This may not be what you want to hear but the first thing I
> > did when I bought my bus was remove the swing out. They are too big,
> > too heavy and frankly useless. A portable two burner is far better.
> > Also the issue you touched on - I don't want to sleep with gas bottles
> > and gas fridges. Two way and solar is the way to go imho. Greg E
> >
> > *From:* gburgss <gburgss@...>
> > *To:* Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > *Sent:* Thursday, 29 November 2012 8:27 PM
> > *Subject:* [Syncro_T3_Australia] Gas Bottle Storage - Trakka campers
> > Hello all
> >
> > My first of what will no doubt be many questions.
> >
> > Can Trakka owners advise what if any issues they have with regard to
> > the Gas Bottle being stored below the swing out gas cookers.i.e - How
> > is this viewed by the various authorities when it is time to register
> > the vehicle. (or do you simply remove the unit before taking over the
> > pits?)
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Glenn
> >
> >
>


I think that the regulations state that the gas must be in a separate compartment, vented to the outside. I know of a lot of people being knocked back on pre '76 Sopru vans for this.

Phill



> Ken Garratt <unclekenz@hotmail.com> wrote:
>

Glenn,
Just to fly the flag for the Trakka gas cooker cupboard and add some balance to this topic.
I agree a danger potential is there. I have heard of death during sleep by gassing.
Premeditated? Negligent? Good practice?
I don't recall any report of a T3 Trakka camper being gutted by fire from a gas bottle
incident in the cooker cupboard. Is this based on pure luck or good practice?But I have seen
online T3 vans gutted by fire from a fault arising in the engine bay. So I ask you, where is
the REAL danger?
Treated with all due respect/diligence the gas bottle & cooker installation, including
periodic maintenance of the cooker appliance, checking and if necessary the replacement of
the gas bottle hose and replacement of all O-Rings/flat rubber washers to gas fittings plus
turning the gas bottle off after each use ... all these are a no brainer and stand a user
and their children in good stead. I contend your concerns emanate from instances where this
good practice has not occurred.
My Trakker cooker cupboard is terrific. Works just fine. Swings in and out as required. In
shite weather, makes a great cup of tea or coffee and toast inside, no problem. In great
weather, cook outside whatever you like with it!
I wouldn't leave home without it.
Cheers.
Ken

To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
From: gburgss@yahoo.com.au
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 19:44:38 +0000
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Gas Bottle Storage - Trakka campers


























Ken, Greg, Skot



Thanks for the input. Livivng in Tasmania there is every chance I will have to do a change
of registration when I buy one (Hopefully Harts).



Options would be to remove alltogether or install a vented 'locker' (no nothing to do with
diffs!) on the drivers side and loose some cupboard space.



I certainly wouldn't be cooking eggs and bacon inside the van but like the idea of being
able to boil water for a brew.



With 2 young children I take onboard Skots comment about extra space.



Regards



Glenn



--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, Mr Scott Pitcher <spbconsulting@...> wrote:

>

> Greg,

>

> My thoughts exactly.

>

> I built one of these swing out cookers and had a 3 way fridge - both now

> gone - hated them both as they are smelly and in the case of the fridge

> - very inefficient.

>

> I now have lots more room (once I chuck all the wife and kids stuff in

> the awning) and a fridge that holds heaps and works great without any

> smell to gas out the occupants or risk of fire.

>

> Very happy with my current set up although a solar panel set up is on

> the cards.

>

> Cheers,

>

> Skot

>

>

> On 29/11/2012 9:24 PM, greg esposito wrote:

> > Hi Glenn, This may not be what you want to hear but the first thing I

> > did when I bought my bus was remove the swing out. They are too big,

> > too heavy and frankly useless. A portable two burner is far better.

> > Also the issue you touched on - I don't want to sleep with gas bottles

> > and gas fridges. Two way and solar is the way to go imho. Greg E

> >

> > *From:* gburgss <gburgss@...>

> > *To:* Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com

> > *Sent:* Thursday, 29 November 2012 8:27 PM

> > *Subject:* [Syncro_T3_Australia] Gas Bottle Storage - Trakka campers

> > Hello all

> >

> > My first of what will no doubt be many questions.

> >

> > Can Trakka owners advise what if any issues they have with regard to

> > the Gas Bottle being stored below the swing out gas cookers.i.e - How

> > is this viewed by the various authorities when it is time to register

> > the vehicle. (or do you simply remove the unit before taking over the

> > pits?)

> >

> > Regards

> >

> > Glenn

> >

> >

>
Did not realise you had kids Glenn. I have a two year and four year old. With the swingout installed I would not have enough room when we go camping. The other thing is it would be in the way of where we put the porta cot at night. I don't know how heavy the trakka ones are but my safari one is hard for one person to lift. Greg E

From: "plander@optusnet.com.au" <plander@optusnet.com.au>
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, 30 November 2012 12:46 PM
Subject: Re: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Gas Bottle Storage - Trakka campers
 
I think that the regulations state that the gas must be in a separate compartment, vented to the outside. I know of a lot of people being knocked back on pre '76 Sopru vans for this.

Phill

> Ken Garratt <mailto:unclekenz%40hotmail.com> wrote:
>

Glenn,
Just to fly the flag for the Trakka gas cooker cupboard and add some balance to this topic.
I agree a danger potential is there. I have heard of death during sleep by gassing.
Premeditated? Negligent? Good practice?
I don't recall any report of a T3 Trakka camper being gutted by fire from a gas bottle
incident in the cooker cupboard. Is this based on pure luck or good practice?But I have seen
online T3 vans gutted by fire from a fault arising in the engine bay. So I ask you, where is
the REAL danger?
Treated with all due respect/diligence the gas bottle & cooker installation, including
periodic maintenance of the cooker appliance, checking and if necessary the replacement of
the gas bottle hose and replacement of all O-Rings/flat rubber washers to gas fittings plus
turning the gas bottle off after each use ... all these are a no brainer and stand a user
and their children in good stead. I contend your concerns emanate from instances where this
good practice has not occurred.
My Trakker cooker cupboard is terrific. Works just fine. Swings in and out as required. In
shite weather, makes a great cup of tea or coffee and toast inside, no problem. In great
weather, cook outside whatever you like with it!
I wouldn't leave home without it.
Cheers.
Ken

To: mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com
From: mailto:gburgss%40yahoo.com.au
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 19:44:38 +0000
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Gas Bottle Storage - Trakka campers

Ken, Greg, Skot

Thanks for the input. Livivng in Tasmania there is every chance I will have to do a change
of registration when I buy one (Hopefully Harts).

Options would be to remove alltogether or install a vented 'locker' (no nothing to do with
diffs!) on the drivers side and loose some cupboard space.

I certainly wouldn't be cooking eggs and bacon inside the van but like the idea of being
able to boil water for a brew.

With 2 young children I take onboard Skots comment about extra space.

Regards

Glenn

--- In mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com, Mr Scott Pitcher <spbconsulting@...> wrote:

>

> Greg,

>

> My thoughts exactly.

>

> I built one of these swing out cookers and had a 3 way fridge - both now

> gone - hated them both as they are smelly and in the case of the fridge

> - very inefficient.

>

> I now have lots more room (once I chuck all the wife and kids stuff in

> the awning) and a fridge that holds heaps and works great without any

> smell to gas out the occupants or risk of fire.

>

> Very happy with my current set up although a solar panel set up is on

> the cards.

>

> Cheers,

>

> Skot

>

>

> On 29/11/2012 9:24 PM, greg esposito wrote:

> > Hi Glenn, This may not be what you want to hear but the first thing I

> > did when I bought my bus was remove the swing out. They are too big,

> > too heavy and frankly useless. A portable two burner is far better.

> > Also the issue you touched on - I don't want to sleep with gas bottles

> > and gas fridges. Two way and solar is the way to go imho. Greg E

> >

> > *From:* gburgss <gburgss@...>

> > *To:* mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com

> > *Sent:* Thursday, 29 November 2012 8:27 PM

> > *Subject:* [Syncro_T3_Australia] Gas Bottle Storage - Trakka campers

> > Hello all

> >

> > My first of what will no doubt be many questions.

> >

> > Can Trakka owners advise what if any issues they have with regard to

> > the Gas Bottle being stored below the swing out gas cookers.i.e - How

> > is this viewed by the various authorities when it is time to register

> > the vehicle. (or do you simply remove the unit before taking over the

> > pits?)

> >

> > Regards

> >

> > Glenn

> >

> >

>
Gentlemen

Again thanks for the input - It would seem that there are dark forces working against me in my quest for a 90 - 92 factory T3 syncro poptop camper, first missing out on Rogers and now Harts.

Any help in 'Trakking' one down would be greatly appreciated - still it will give me more time to digest Decouplers, 15inch rims, diff locks and VC's !

Greg I have two boys 3&6 (at 49 I left my run a bit late but I keep telling myself they will keep me feeling young - so far so good)

Regards

Glenn

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, greg esposito <gregespo73@...> wrote:
>
> Did not realise you had kids Glenn. I have a two year and four year old. With the swingout installed I would not have enough room when we go camping. The other thing is it would be in the way of where we put the porta cot at night. I don't know how heavy the trakka ones are but my safari one is hard for one person to lift. Greg E
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: "plander@..." <plander@...>
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Friday, 30 November 2012 12:46 PM
> Subject: Re: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Gas Bottle Storage - Trakka campers
>
>
> Â
>
> I think that the regulations state that the gas must be in a separate compartment, vented to the outside. I know of a lot of people being knocked back on pre '76 Sopru vans for this.
>
> Phill
>
> > Ken Garratt <mailto:unclekenz%40hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
>
> Glenn,
> Just to fly the flag for the Trakka gas cooker cupboard and add some balance to this topic.
> I agree a danger potential is there. I have heard of death during sleep by gassing.
> Premeditated? Negligent? Good practice?
> I don't recall any report of a T3 Trakka camper being gutted by fire from a gas bottle
> incident in the cooker cupboard. Is this based on pure luck or good practice?But I have seen
> online T3 vans gutted by fire from a fault arising in the engine bay. So I ask you, where is
> the REAL danger?
> Treated with all due respect/diligence the gas bottle & cooker installation, including
> periodic maintenance of the cooker appliance, checking and if necessary the replacement of
> the gas bottle hose and replacement of all O-Rings/flat rubber washers to gas fittings plus
> turning the gas bottle off after each use ... all these are a no brainer and stand a user
> and their children in good stead. I contend your concerns emanate from instances where this
> good practice has not occurred.
> My Trakker cooker cupboard is terrific. Works just fine. Swings in and out as required. In
> shite weather, makes a great cup of tea or coffee and toast inside, no problem. In great
> weather, cook outside whatever you like with it!
> I wouldn't leave home without it.
> Cheers.
> Ken
>
> To: mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com
> From: mailto:gburgss%40yahoo.com.au
> Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 19:44:38 +0000
> Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Gas Bottle Storage - Trakka campers
>
> Ken, Greg, Skot
>
> Thanks for the input. Livivng in Tasmania there is every chance I will have to do a change
> of registration when I buy one (Hopefully Harts).
>
> Options would be to remove alltogether or install a vented 'locker' (no nothing to do with
> diffs!) on the drivers side and loose some cupboard space.
>
> I certainly wouldn't be cooking eggs and bacon inside the van but like the idea of being
> able to boil water for a brew.
>
> With 2 young children I take onboard Skots comment about extra space.
>
> Regards
>
> Glenn
>
> --- In mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com, Mr Scott Pitcher <spbconsulting@> wrote:
>
> >
>
> > Greg,
>
> >
>
> > My thoughts exactly.
>
> >
>
> > I built one of these swing out cookers and had a 3 way fridge - both now
>
> > gone - hated them both as they are smelly and in the case of the fridge
>
> > - very inefficient.
>
> >
>
> > I now have lots more room (once I chuck all the wife and kids stuff in
>
> > the awning) and a fridge that holds heaps and works great without any
>
> > smell to gas out the occupants or risk of fire.
>
> >
>
> > Very happy with my current set up although a solar panel set up is on
>
> > the cards.
>
> >
>
> > Cheers,
>
> >
>
> > Skot
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > On 29/11/2012 9:24 PM, greg esposito wrote:
>
> > > Hi Glenn, This may not be what you want to hear but the first thing I
>
> > > did when I bought my bus was remove the swing out. They are too big,
>
> > > too heavy and frankly useless. A portable two burner is far better.
>
> > > Also the issue you touched on - I don't want to sleep with gas bottles
>
> > > and gas fridges. Two way and solar is the way to go imho. Greg E
>
> > >
>
> > > *From:* gburgss <gburgss@>
>
> > > *To:* mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com
>
> > > *Sent:* Thursday, 29 November 2012 8:27 PM
>
> > > *Subject:* [Syncro_T3_Australia] Gas Bottle Storage - Trakka campers
>
> > > Hello all
>
> > >
>
> > > My first of what will no doubt be many questions.
>
> > >
>
> > > Can Trakka owners advise what if any issues they have with regard to
>
> > > the Gas Bottle being stored below the swing out gas cookers.i.e - How
>
> > > is this viewed by the various authorities when it is time to register
>
> > > the vehicle. (or do you simply remove the unit before taking over the
>
> > > pits?)
>
> > >
>
> > > Regards
>
> > >
>
> > > Glenn
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
I hear ya Glenn. Two boys will keep you on your feet if nothing else. I'am forty next year and am on a strict diet of early bed times, multi-vitamins and copious amount of coffee in the morning. With the third little terror due March I may have to up the ante. Greg E

From: gburgss <gburgss@yahoo.com.au>
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, 30 November 2012 2:32 PM
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Gas Bottle Storage - Trakka campers
 
Gentlemen

Again thanks for the input - It would seem that there are dark forces working against me in my quest for a 90 - 92 factory T3 syncro poptop camper, first missing out on Rogers and now Harts.

Any help in 'Trakking' one down would be greatly appreciated - still it will give me more time to digest Decouplers, 15inch rims, diff locks and VC's !

Greg I have two boys 3&6 (at 49 I left my run a bit late but I keep telling myself they will keep me feeling young - so far so good)

Regards

Glenn

--- In mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com, greg esposito <gregespo73@...> wrote:
>
> Did not realise you had kids Glenn. I have a two year and four year old. With the swingout installed I would not have enough room when we go camping. The other thing is it would be in the way of where we put the porta cot at night. I don't know how heavy the trakka ones are but my safari one is hard for one person to lift. Greg E
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: "plander@..." <plander@...>
> To: mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Friday, 30 November 2012 12:46 PM
> Subject: Re: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Gas Bottle Storage - Trakka campers
>
>
>  
>
> I think that the regulations state that the gas must be in a separate compartment, vented to the outside. I know of a lot of people being knocked back on pre '76 Sopru vans for this.
>
> Phill
>
> > Ken Garratt <mailto:unclekenz%40hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
>
> Glenn,
> Just to fly the flag for the Trakka gas cooker cupboard and add some balance to this topic.
> I agree a danger potential is there. I have heard of death during sleep by gassing.
> Premeditated? Negligent? Good practice?
> I don't recall any report of a T3 Trakka camper being gutted by fire from a gas bottle
> incident in the cooker cupboard. Is this based on pure luck or good practice?But I have seen
> online T3 vans gutted by fire from a fault arising in the engine bay. So I ask you, where is
> the REAL danger?
> Treated with all due respect/diligence the gas bottle & cooker installation, including
> periodic maintenance of the cooker appliance, checking and if necessary the replacement of
> the gas bottle hose and replacement of all O-Rings/flat rubber washers to gas fittings plus
> turning the gas bottle off after each use ... all these are a no brainer and stand a user
> and their children in good stead. I contend your concerns emanate from instances where this
> good practice has not occurred.
> My Trakker cooker cupboard is terrific. Works just fine. Swings in and out as required. In
> shite weather, makes a great cup of tea or coffee and toast inside, no problem. In great
> weather, cook outside whatever you like with it!
> I wouldn't leave home without it.
> Cheers.
> Ken
>
> To: mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com
> From: mailto:gburgss%40yahoo.com.au
> Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 19:44:38 +0000
> Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Gas Bottle Storage - Trakka campers
>
> Ken, Greg, Skot
>
> Thanks for the input. Livivng in Tasmania there is every chance I will have to do a change
> of registration when I buy one (Hopefully Harts).
>
> Options would be to remove alltogether or install a vented 'locker' (no nothing to do with
> diffs!) on the drivers side and loose some cupboard space.
>
> I certainly wouldn't be cooking eggs and bacon inside the van but like the idea of being
> able to boil water for a brew.
>
> With 2 young children I take onboard Skots comment about extra space.
>
> Regards
>
> Glenn
>
> --- In mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com, Mr Scott Pitcher <spbconsulting@> wrote:
>
> >
>
> > Greg,
>
> >
>
> > My thoughts exactly.
>
> >
>
> > I built one of these swing out cookers and had a 3 way fridge - both now
>
> > gone - hated them both as they are smelly and in the case of the fridge
>
> > - very inefficient.
>
> >
>
> > I now have lots more room (once I chuck all the wife and kids stuff in
>
> > the awning) and a fridge that holds heaps and works great without any
>
> > smell to gas out the occupants or risk of fire.
>
> >
>
> > Very happy with my current set up although a solar panel set up is on
>
> > the cards.
>
> >
>
> > Cheers,
>
> >
>
> > Skot
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > On 29/11/2012 9:24 PM, greg esposito wrote:
>
> > > Hi Glenn, This may not be what you want to hear but the first thing I
>
> > > did when I bought my bus was remove the swing out. They are too big,
>
> > > too heavy and frankly useless. A portable two burner is far better.
>
> > > Also the issue you touched on - I don't want to sleep with gas bottles
>
> > > and gas fridges. Two way and solar is the way to go imho. Greg E
>
> > >
>
> > > *From:* gburgss <gburgss@>
>
> > > *To:* mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com
>
> > > *Sent:* Thursday, 29 November 2012 8:27 PM
>
> > > *Subject:* [Syncro_T3_Australia] Gas Bottle Storage - Trakka campers
>
> > > Hello all
>
> > >
>
> > > My first of what will no doubt be many questions.
>
> > >
>
> > > Can Trakka owners advise what if any issues they have with regard to
>
> > > the Gas Bottle being stored below the swing out gas cookers.i.e - How
>
> > > is this viewed by the various authorities when it is time to register
>
> > > the vehicle. (or do you simply remove the unit before taking over the
>
> > > pits?)
>
> > >
>
> > > Regards
>
> > >
>
> > > Glenn
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> >
>

Steve Muller has one for sale.

Do a Google for Kombirescue.

Phill



> gburgss <gburgss@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>
> Gentlemen
>
> Again thanks for the input - It would seem that there are dark forces
> working against me in my quest for a 90 - 92 factory T3 syncro poptop
> camper, first missing out on Rogers and now Harts.
>
> Any help in 'Trakking' one down would be greatly appreciated - still it
> will give me more time to digest Decouplers, 15inch rims, diff locks and
> VC's !
>
> Greg I have two boys 3&6 (at 49 I left my run a bit late but I keep
> telling myself they will keep me feeling young - so far so good)
>
> Regards
>
> Glenn
>
> --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, greg esposito
> <gregespo73@...> wrote:
> >
> > Did not realise you had kids Glenn. I have a two year and four year
> old. With the swingout installed I would not have enough room when we go
> camping. The other thing is it would be in the way of where we put the
> porta cot at night. I don't know how heavy the trakka ones are but my
> safari one is hard for one person to lift. Greg E
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: "plander@..." <plander@...>
> > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Friday, 30 November 2012 12:46 PM
> > Subject: Re: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Gas Bottle Storage - Trakka
> campers
> >
> >
> > ����
> >
> > I think that the regulations state that the gas must be in a separate
> compartment, vented to the outside. I know of a lot of people being
> knocked back on pre '76 Sopru vans for this.
> >
> > Phill
> >
> > > Ken Garratt <mailto:unclekenz%40hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> >
> > Glenn,
> > Just to fly the flag for the Trakka gas cooker cupboard and add some
> balance to this topic.
> > I agree a danger potential is there. I have heard of death during
> sleep by gassing.
> > Premeditated? Negligent? Good practice?
> > I don't recall any report of a T3 Trakka camper being gutted by fire
> from a gas bottle
> > incident in the cooker cupboard. Is this based on pure luck or good
> practice?But I have seen
> > online T3 vans gutted by fire from a fault arising in the engine bay.
> So I ask you, where is
> > the REAL danger?
> > Treated with all due respect/diligence the gas bottle & cooker
> installation, including
> > periodic maintenance of the cooker appliance, checking and if
> necessary the replacement of
> > the gas bottle hose and replacement of all O-Rings/flat rubber washers
> to gas fittings plus
> > turning the gas bottle off after each use ... all these are a no
> brainer and stand a user
> > and their children in good stead. I contend your concerns emanate from
> instances where this
> > good practice has not occurred.
> > My Trakker cooker cupboard is terrific. Works just fine. Swings in and
> out as required. In
> > shite weather, makes a great cup of tea or coffee and toast inside, no
> problem. In great
> > weather, cook outside whatever you like with it!
> > I wouldn't leave home without it.
> > Cheers.
> > Ken
> >
> > To: mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com
> > From: mailto:gburgss%40yahoo.com.au
> > Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 19:44:38 +0000
> > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Gas Bottle Storage - Trakka campers
> >
> > Ken, Greg, Skot
> >
> > Thanks for the input. Livivng in Tasmania there is every chance I will
> have to do a change
> > of registration when I buy one (Hopefully Harts).
> >
> > Options would be to remove alltogether or install a vented 'locker'
> (no nothing to do with
> > diffs!) on the drivers side and loose some cupboard space.
> >
> > I certainly wouldn't be cooking eggs and bacon inside the van but like
> the idea of being
> > able to boil water for a brew.
> >
> > With 2 young children I take onboard Skots comment about extra space.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Glenn
> >
> > --- In mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com, Mr Scott Pitcher
> <spbconsulting@> wrote:
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Greg,
> >
> > >
> >
> > > My thoughts exactly.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > I built one of these swing out cookers and had a 3 way fridge - both
> now
> >
> > > gone - hated them both as they are smelly and in the case of the
> fridge
> >
> > > - very inefficient.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > I now have lots more room (once I chuck all the wife and kids stuff
> in
> >
> > > the awning) and a fridge that holds heaps and works great without
> any
> >
> > > smell to gas out the occupants or risk of fire.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Very happy with my current set up although a solar panel set up is
> on
> >
> > > the cards.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Cheers,
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Skot
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > On 29/11/2012 9:24 PM, greg esposito wrote:
> >
> > > > Hi Glenn, This may not be what you want to hear but the first
> thing I
> >
> > > > did when I bought my bus was remove the swing out. They are too
> big,
> >
> > > > too heavy and frankly useless. A portable two burner is far
> better.
> >
> > > > Also the issue you touched on - I don't want to sleep with gas
> bottles
> >
> > > > and gas fridges. Two way and solar is the way to go imho. Greg E
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > *From:* gburgss <gburgss@>
> >
> > > > *To:* mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com
> >
> > > > *Sent:* Thursday, 29 November 2012 8:27 PM
> >
> > > > *Subject:* [Syncro_T3_Australia] Gas Bottle Storage - Trakka
> campers
> >
> > > > Hello all
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > My first of what will no doubt be many questions.
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > Can Trakka owners advise what if any issues they have with regard
> to
> >
> > > > the Gas Bottle being stored below the swing out gas cookers.i.e -
> How
> >
> > > > is this viewed by the various authorities when it is time to
> register
> >
> > > > the vehicle. (or do you simply remove the unit before taking over
> the
> >
> > > > pits?)
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > Regards
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > Glenn
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > >
> >
> > >
> >
Thanks Phill

I have just sent an email of to Steve to see what he has.

Regards

Glenn
--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, plander@... wrote:
>
> Steve Muller has one for sale.
>
> Do a Google for Kombirescue.
>
> Phill
>
>
>
> > gburgss <gburgss@...> wrote:
> >
> > Gentlemen
> >
> > Again thanks for the input - It would seem that there are dark forces
> > working against me in my quest for a 90 - 92 factory T3 syncro poptop
> > camper, first missing out on Rogers and now Harts.
> >
> > Any help in 'Trakking' one down would be greatly appreciated - still it
> > will give me more time to digest Decouplers, 15inch rims, diff locks and
> > VC's !
> >
> > Greg I have two boys 3&6 (at 49 I left my run a bit late but I keep
> > telling myself they will keep me feeling young - so far so good)
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Glenn
> >
> > --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, greg esposito
> > <gregespo73@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Did not realise you had kids Glenn. I have a two year and four year
> > old. With the swingout installed I would not have enough room when we go
> > camping. The other thing is it would be in the way of where we put the
> > porta cot at night. I don't know how heavy the trakka ones are but my
> > safari one is hard for one person to lift. Greg E
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: "plander@" <plander@>
> > > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Friday, 30 November 2012 12:46 PM
> > > Subject: Re: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Gas Bottle Storage - Trakka
> > campers
> > >
> > >
> > > ÂÂ
> > >
> > > I think that the regulations state that the gas must be in a separate
> > compartment, vented to the outside. I know of a lot of people being
> > knocked back on pre '76 Sopru vans for this.
> > >
> > > Phill
> > >
> > > > Ken Garratt <mailto:unclekenz%40hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> > > Glenn,
> > > Just to fly the flag for the Trakka gas cooker cupboard and add some
> > balance to this topic.
> > > I agree a danger potential is there. I have heard of death during
> > sleep by gassing.
> > > Premeditated? Negligent? Good practice?
> > > I don't recall any report of a T3 Trakka camper being gutted by fire
> > from a gas bottle
> > > incident in the cooker cupboard. Is this based on pure luck or good
> > practice?But I have seen
> > > online T3 vans gutted by fire from a fault arising in the engine bay.
> > So I ask you, where is
> > > the REAL danger?
> > > Treated with all due respect/diligence the gas bottle & cooker
> > installation, including
> > > periodic maintenance of the cooker appliance, checking and if
> > necessary the replacement of
> > > the gas bottle hose and replacement of all O-Rings/flat rubber washers
> > to gas fittings plus
> > > turning the gas bottle off after each use ... all these are a no
> > brainer and stand a user
> > > and their children in good stead. I contend your concerns emanate from
> > instances where this
> > > good practice has not occurred.
> > > My Trakker cooker cupboard is terrific. Works just fine. Swings in and
> > out as required. In
> > > shite weather, makes a great cup of tea or coffee and toast inside, no
> > problem. In great
> > > weather, cook outside whatever you like with it!
> > > I wouldn't leave home without it.
> > > Cheers.
> > > Ken
> > >
> > > To: mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com
> > > From: mailto:gburgss%40yahoo.com.au
> > > Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 19:44:38 +0000
> > > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Gas Bottle Storage - Trakka campers
> > >
> > > Ken, Greg, Skot
> > >
> > > Thanks for the input. Livivng in Tasmania there is every chance I will
> > have to do a change
> > > of registration when I buy one (Hopefully Harts).
> > >
> > > Options would be to remove alltogether or install a vented 'locker'
> > (no nothing to do with
> > > diffs!) on the drivers side and loose some cupboard space.
> > >
> > > I certainly wouldn't be cooking eggs and bacon inside the van but like
> > the idea of being
> > > able to boil water for a brew.
> > >
> > > With 2 young children I take onboard Skots comment about extra space.
> > >
> > > Regards
> > >
> > > Glenn
> > >
> > > --- In mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com, Mr Scott Pitcher
> > <spbconsulting@> wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > Greg,
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > My thoughts exactly.
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > I built one of these swing out cookers and had a 3 way fridge - both
> > now
> > >
> > > > gone - hated them both as they are smelly and in the case of the
> > fridge
> > >
> > > > - very inefficient.
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > I now have lots more room (once I chuck all the wife and kids stuff
> > in
> > >
> > > > the awning) and a fridge that holds heaps and works great without
> > any
> > >
> > > > smell to gas out the occupants or risk of fire.
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > Very happy with my current set up although a solar panel set up is
> > on
> > >
> > > > the cards.
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > Skot
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > On 29/11/2012 9:24 PM, greg esposito wrote:
> > >
> > > > > Hi Glenn, This may not be what you want to hear but the first
> > thing I
> > >
> > > > > did when I bought my bus was remove the swing out. They are too
> > big,
> > >
> > > > > too heavy and frankly useless. A portable two burner is far
> > better.
> > >
> > > > > Also the issue you touched on - I don't want to sleep with gas
> > bottles
> > >
> > > > > and gas fridges. Two way and solar is the way to go imho. Greg E
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > *From:* gburgss <gburgss@>
> > >
> > > > > *To:* mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com
> > >
> > > > > *Sent:* Thursday, 29 November 2012 8:27 PM
> > >
> > > > > *Subject:* [Syncro_T3_Australia] Gas Bottle Storage - Trakka
> > campers
> > >
> > > > > Hello all
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > My first of what will no doubt be many questions.
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > Can Trakka owners advise what if any issues they have with regard
> > to
> > >
> > > > > the Gas Bottle being stored below the swing out gas cookers.i.e -
> > How
> > >
> > > > > is this viewed by the various authorities when it is time to
> > register
> > >
> > > > > the vehicle. (or do you simply remove the unit before taking over
> > the
> > >
> > > > > pits?)
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > Regards
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > Glenn
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > >
> > >
>
You're better off phoning Steve as he's not big on emails.

Tell him Phill sent you.



> gburgss <gburgss@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>
>
> Thanks Phill
>
> I have just sent an email of to Steve to see what he has.
>
> Regards
>
> Glenn
> --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, plander@... wrote:
> >
> > Steve Muller has one for sale.
> >
> > Do a Google for Kombirescue.
> >
> > Phill
> >
> >
> >
> > > gburgss <gburgss@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > Gentlemen
> > >
> > > Again thanks for the input - It would seem that there are dark
> forces
> > > working against me in my quest for a 90 - 92 factory T3 syncro
> poptop
> > > camper, first missing out on Rogers and now Harts.
> > >
> > > Any help in 'Trakking' one down would be greatly appreciated - still
> it
> > > will give me more time to digest Decouplers, 15inch rims, diff locks
> and
> > > VC's !
> > >
> > > Greg I have two boys 3&6 (at 49 I left my run a bit late but I keep
> > > telling myself they will keep me feeling young - so far so good)
> > >
> > > Regards
> > >
> > > Glenn
> > >
> > > --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, greg esposito
> > > <gregespo73@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Did not realise you had kids Glenn. I have a two year and four
> year
> > > old. With the swingout installed I would not have enough room when
> we go
> > > camping. The other thing is it would be in the way of where we put
> the
> > > porta cot at night. I don't know how heavy the trakka ones are but
> my
> > > safari one is hard for one person to lift. Greg E
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ________________________________
> > > > From: "plander@" <plander@>
> > > > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Sent: Friday, 30 November 2012 12:46 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Gas Bottle Storage -
> Trakka
> > > campers
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ���������
> > > >
> > > > I think that the regulations state that the gas must be in a
> separate
> > > compartment, vented to the outside. I know of a lot of people being
> > > knocked back on pre '76 Sopru vans for this.
> > > >
> > > > Phill
> > > >
> > > > > Ken Garratt <mailto:unclekenz%40hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Glenn,
> > > > Just to fly the flag for the Trakka gas cooker cupboard and add
> some
> > > balance to this topic.
> > > > I agree a danger potential is there. I have heard of death during
> > > sleep by gassing.
> > > > Premeditated? Negligent? Good practice?
> > > > I don't recall any report of a T3 Trakka camper being gutted by
> fire
> > > from a gas bottle
> > > > incident in the cooker cupboard. Is this based on pure luck or
> good
> > > practice?But I have seen
> > > > online T3 vans gutted by fire from a fault arising in the engine
> bay.
> > > So I ask you, where is
> > > > the REAL danger?
> > > > Treated with all due respect/diligence the gas bottle & cooker
> > > installation, including
> > > > periodic maintenance of the cooker appliance, checking and if
> > > necessary the replacement of
> > > > the gas bottle hose and replacement of all O-Rings/flat rubber
> washers
> > > to gas fittings plus
> > > > turning the gas bottle off after each use ... all these are a no
> > > brainer and stand a user
> > > > and their children in good stead. I contend your concerns emanate
> from
> > > instances where this
> > > > good practice has not occurred.
> > > > My Trakker cooker cupboard is terrific. Works just fine. Swings in
> and
> > > out as required. In
> > > > shite weather, makes a great cup of tea or coffee and toast
> inside, no
> > > problem. In great
> > > > weather, cook outside whatever you like with it!
> > > > I wouldn't leave home without it.
> > > > Cheers.
> > > > Ken
> > > >
> > > > To: mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com
> > > > From: mailto:gburgss%40yahoo.com.au
> > > > Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 19:44:38 +0000
> > > > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Gas Bottle Storage - Trakka
> campers
> > > >
> > > > Ken, Greg, Skot
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for the input. Livivng in Tasmania there is every chance I
> will
> > > have to do a change
> > > > of registration when I buy one (Hopefully Harts).
> > > >
> > > > Options would be to remove alltogether or install a vented
> 'locker'
> > > (no nothing to do with
> > > > diffs!) on the drivers side and loose some cupboard space.
> > > >
> > > > I certainly wouldn't be cooking eggs and bacon inside the van but
> like
> > > the idea of being
> > > > able to boil water for a brew.
> > > >
> > > > With 2 young children I take onboard Skots comment about extra
> space.
> > > >
> > > > Regards
> > > >
> > > > Glenn
> > > >
> > > > --- In mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com, Mr Scott
> Pitcher
> > > <spbconsulting@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Greg,
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > My thoughts exactly.
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > I built one of these swing out cookers and had a 3 way fridge -
> both
> > > now
> > > >
> > > > > gone - hated them both as they are smelly and in the case of the
>
> > > fridge
> > > >
> > > > > - very inefficient.
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > I now have lots more room (once I chuck all the wife and kids
> stuff
> > > in
> > > >
> > > > > the awning) and a fridge that holds heaps and works great
> without
> > > any
> > > >
> > > > > smell to gas out the occupants or risk of fire.
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Very happy with my current set up although a solar panel set up
> is
> > > on
> > > >
> > > > > the cards.
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Cheers,
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Skot
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > On 29/11/2012 9:24 PM, greg esposito wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > > Hi Glenn, This may not be what you want to hear but the first
> > > thing I
> > > >
> > > > > > did when I bought my bus was remove the swing out. They are
> too
> > > big,
> > > >
> > > > > > too heavy and frankly useless. A portable two burner is far
> > > better.
> > > >
> > > > > > Also the issue you touched on - I don't want to sleep with gas
>
> > > bottles
> > > >
> > > > > > and gas fridges. Two way and solar is the way to go imho. Greg
> E
> > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > *From:* gburgss <gburgss@>
> > > >
> > > > > > *To:* mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com
> > > >
> > > > > > *Sent:* Thursday, 29 November 2012 8:27 PM
> > > >
> > > > > > *Subject:* [Syncro_T3_Australia] Gas Bottle Storage - Trakka
> > > campers
> > > >
> > > > > > Hello all
> > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > My first of what will no doubt be many questions.
> > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > Can Trakka owners advise what if any issues they have with
> regard
> > > to
> > > >
> > > > > > the Gas Bottle being stored below the swing out gas
> cookers.i.e -
> > > How
> > > >
> > > > > > is this viewed by the various authorities when it is time to
> > > register
> > > >
> > > > > > the vehicle. (or do you simply remove the unit before taking
> over
> > > the
> > > >
> > > > > > pits?)
> > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > Regards
> > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > Glenn
> > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> >
Phill

You are a legend! Just got off the phone with Steve (Good bloke) his T3 camper ticks all the boxes. I would not have been been aware of the camper if you had not put me in touch with him as it's not advertised.

Thanks again

Glenn

PS How good is this Group!

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, plander@... wrote:
>
> You're better off phoning Steve as he's not big on emails.
>
> Tell him Phill sent you.
>
>
>
> > gburgss <gburgss@...> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Thanks Phill
> >
> > I have just sent an email of to Steve to see what he has.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Glenn
> > --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, plander@ wrote:
> > >
> > > Steve Muller has one for sale.
> > >
> > > Do a Google for Kombirescue.
> > >
> > > Phill
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > gburgss <gburgss@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Gentlemen
> > > >
> > > > Again thanks for the input - It would seem that there are dark
> > forces
> > > > working against me in my quest for a 90 - 92 factory T3 syncro
> > poptop
> > > > camper, first missing out on Rogers and now Harts.
> > > >
> > > > Any help in 'Trakking' one down would be greatly appreciated - still
> > it
> > > > will give me more time to digest Decouplers, 15inch rims, diff locks
> > and
> > > > VC's !
> > > >
> > > > Greg I have two boys 3&6 (at 49 I left my run a bit late but I keep
> > > > telling myself they will keep me feeling young - so far so good)
> > > >
> > > > Regards
> > > >
> > > > Glenn
> > > >
> > > > --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, greg esposito
> > > > <gregespo73@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Did not realise you had kids Glenn. I have a two year and four
> > year
> > > > old. With the swingout installed I would not have enough room when
> > we go
> > > > camping. The other thing is it would be in the way of where we put
> > the
> > > > porta cot at night. I don't know how heavy the trakka ones are but
> > my
> > > > safari one is hard for one person to lift. Greg E
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ________________________________
> > > > > From: "plander@" <plander@>
> > > > > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > Sent: Friday, 30 November 2012 12:46 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Gas Bottle Storage -
> > Trakka
> > > > campers
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ÂÂÂ
> > > > >
> > > > > I think that the regulations state that the gas must be in a
> > separate
> > > > compartment, vented to the outside. I know of a lot of people being
> > > > knocked back on pre '76 Sopru vans for this.
> > > > >
> > > > > Phill
> > > > >
> > > > > > Ken Garratt <mailto:unclekenz%40hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Glenn,
> > > > > Just to fly the flag for the Trakka gas cooker cupboard and add
> > some
> > > > balance to this topic.
> > > > > I agree a danger potential is there. I have heard of death during
> > > > sleep by gassing.
> > > > > Premeditated? Negligent? Good practice?
> > > > > I don't recall any report of a T3 Trakka camper being gutted by
> > fire
> > > > from a gas bottle
> > > > > incident in the cooker cupboard. Is this based on pure luck or
> > good
> > > > practice?But I have seen
> > > > > online T3 vans gutted by fire from a fault arising in the engine
> > bay.
> > > > So I ask you, where is
> > > > > the REAL danger?
> > > > > Treated with all due respect/diligence the gas bottle & cooker
> > > > installation, including
> > > > > periodic maintenance of the cooker appliance, checking and if
> > > > necessary the replacement of
> > > > > the gas bottle hose and replacement of all O-Rings/flat rubber
> > washers
> > > > to gas fittings plus
> > > > > turning the gas bottle off after each use ... all these are a no
> > > > brainer and stand a user
> > > > > and their children in good stead. I contend your concerns emanate
> > from
> > > > instances where this
> > > > > good practice has not occurred.
> > > > > My Trakker cooker cupboard is terrific. Works just fine. Swings in
> > and
> > > > out as required. In
> > > > > shite weather, makes a great cup of tea or coffee and toast
> > inside, no
> > > > problem. In great
> > > > > weather, cook outside whatever you like with it!
> > > > > I wouldn't leave home without it.
> > > > > Cheers.
> > > > > Ken
> > > > >
> > > > > To: mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com
> > > > > From: mailto:gburgss%40yahoo.com.au
> > > > > Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 19:44:38 +0000
> > > > > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Gas Bottle Storage - Trakka
> > campers
> > > > >
> > > > > Ken, Greg, Skot
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for the input. Livivng in Tasmania there is every chance I
> > will
> > > > have to do a change
> > > > > of registration when I buy one (Hopefully Harts).
> > > > >
> > > > > Options would be to remove alltogether or install a vented
> > 'locker'
> > > > (no nothing to do with
> > > > > diffs!) on the drivers side and loose some cupboard space.
> > > > >
> > > > > I certainly wouldn't be cooking eggs and bacon inside the van but
> > like
> > > > the idea of being
> > > > > able to boil water for a brew.
> > > > >
> > > > > With 2 young children I take onboard Skots comment about extra
> > space.
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards
> > > > >
> > > > > Glenn
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com, Mr Scott
> > Pitcher
> > > > <spbconsulting@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Greg,
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > My thoughts exactly.
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > I built one of these swing out cookers and had a 3 way fridge -
> > both
> > > > now
> > > > >
> > > > > > gone - hated them both as they are smelly and in the case of the
> >
> > > > fridge
> > > > >
> > > > > > - very inefficient.
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > I now have lots more room (once I chuck all the wife and kids
> > stuff
> > > > in
> > > > >
> > > > > > the awning) and a fridge that holds heaps and works great
> > without
> > > > any
> > > > >
> > > > > > smell to gas out the occupants or risk of fire.
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Very happy with my current set up although a solar panel set up
> > is
> > > > on
> > > > >
> > > > > > the cards.
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Skot
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > On 29/11/2012 9:24 PM, greg esposito wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi Glenn, This may not be what you want to hear but the first
> > > > thing I
> > > > >
> > > > > > > did when I bought my bus was remove the swing out. They are
> > too
> > > > big,
> > > > >
> > > > > > > too heavy and frankly useless. A portable two burner is far
> > > > better.
> > > > >
> > > > > > > Also the issue you touched on - I don't want to sleep with gas
> >
> > > > bottles
> > > > >
> > > > > > > and gas fridges. Two way and solar is the way to go imho. Greg
> > E
> > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > *From:* gburgss <gburgss@>
> > > > >
> > > > > > > *To:* mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com
> > > > >
> > > > > > > *Sent:* Thursday, 29 November 2012 8:27 PM
> > > > >
> > > > > > > *Subject:* [Syncro_T3_Australia] Gas Bottle Storage - Trakka
> > > > campers
> > > > >
> > > > > > > Hello all
> > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > My first of what will no doubt be many questions.
> > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > Can Trakka owners advise what if any issues they have with
> > regard
> > > > to
> > > > >
> > > > > > > the Gas Bottle being stored below the swing out gas
> > cookers.i.e -
> > > > How
> > > > >
> > > > > > > is this viewed by the various authorities when it is time to
> > > > register
> > > > >
> > > > > > > the vehicle. (or do you simply remove the unit before taking
> > over
> > > > the
> > > > >
> > > > > > > pits?)
> > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > Regards
> > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > Glenn
> > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
>
Muller is a bit slack at times. His only advertising was that he told me.

When are you going to look at it?

Phill



> gburgss <gburgss@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>
>
> Phill
>
> You are a legend! Just got off the phone with Steve (Good bloke) his T3
> camper ticks all the boxes. I would not have been been aware of the
> camper if you had not put me in touch with him as it's not advertised.
>
> Thanks again
>
> Glenn
>
> PS How good is this Group!
>
> --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, plander@... wrote:
> >
> > You're better off phoning Steve as he's not big on emails.
> >
> > Tell him Phill sent you.
> >
> >
> >
> > > gburgss <gburgss@...> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks Phill
> > >
> > > I have just sent an email of to Steve to see what he has.
> > >
> > > Regards
> > >
> > > Glenn
> > > --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, plander@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Steve Muller has one for sale.
> > > >
> > > > Do a Google for Kombirescue.
> > > >
> > > > Phill
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > gburgss <gburgss@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Gentlemen
> > > > >
> > > > > Again thanks for the input - It would seem that there are dark
> > > forces
> > > > > working against me in my quest for a 90 - 92 factory T3 syncro
> > > poptop
> > > > > camper, first missing out on Rogers and now Harts.
> > > > >
> > > > > Any help in 'Trakking' one down would be greatly appreciated -
> still
> > > it
> > > > > will give me more time to digest Decouplers, 15inch rims, diff
> locks
> > > and
> > > > > VC's !
> > > > >
> > > > > Greg I have two boys 3&6 (at 49 I left my run a bit late but I
> keep
> > > > > telling myself they will keep me feeling young - so far so good)
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards
> > > > >
> > > > > Glenn
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, greg esposito
> > > > > <gregespo73@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Did not realise you had kids Glenn. I have a two year and four
>
> > > year
> > > > > old. With the swingout installed I would not have enough room
> when
> > > we go
> > > > > camping. The other thing is it would be in the way of where we
> put
> > > the
> > > > > porta cot at night. I don't know how heavy the trakka ones are
> but
> > > my
> > > > > safari one is hard for one person to lift. Greg E
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ________________________________
> > > > > > From: "plander@" <plander@>
> > > > > > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > Sent: Friday, 30 November 2012 12:46 PM
> > > > > > Subject: Re: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Gas Bottle Storage
> -
> > > Trakka
> > > > > campers
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ��������������������
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I think that the regulations state that the gas must be in a
> > > separate
> > > > > compartment, vented to the outside. I know of a lot of people
> being
> > > > > knocked back on pre '76 Sopru vans for this.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Phill
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Ken Garratt <mailto:unclekenz%40hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Glenn,
> > > > > > Just to fly the flag for the Trakka gas cooker cupboard and
> add
> > > some
> > > > > balance to this topic.
> > > > > > I agree a danger potential is there. I have heard of death
> during
> > > > > sleep by gassing.
> > > > > > Premeditated? Negligent? Good practice?
> > > > > > I don't recall any report of a T3 Trakka camper being gutted
> by
> > > fire
> > > > > from a gas bottle
> > > > > > incident in the cooker cupboard. Is this based on pure luck or
>
> > > good
> > > > > practice?But I have seen
> > > > > > online T3 vans gutted by fire from a fault arising in the
> engine
> > > bay.
> > > > > So I ask you, where is
> > > > > > the REAL danger?
> > > > > > Treated with all due respect/diligence the gas bottle & cooker
>
> > > > > installation, including
> > > > > > periodic maintenance of the cooker appliance, checking and if
> > > > > necessary the replacement of
> > > > > > the gas bottle hose and replacement of all O-Rings/flat rubber
>
> > > washers
> > > > > to gas fittings plus
> > > > > > turning the gas bottle off after each use ... all these are a
> no
> > > > > brainer and stand a user
> > > > > > and their children in good stead. I contend your concerns
> emanate
> > > from
> > > > > instances where this
> > > > > > good practice has not occurred.
> > > > > > My Trakker cooker cupboard is terrific. Works just fine.
> Swings in
> > > and
> > > > > out as required. In
> > > > > > shite weather, makes a great cup of tea or coffee and toast
> > > inside, no
> > > > > problem. In great
> > > > > > weather, cook outside whatever you like with it!
> > > > > > I wouldn't leave home without it.
> > > > > > Cheers.
> > > > > > Ken
> > > > > >
> > > > > > To: mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > From: mailto:gburgss%40yahoo.com.au
> > > > > > Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 19:44:38 +0000
> > > > > > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Gas Bottle Storage - Trakka
>
> > > campers
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ken, Greg, Skot
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks for the input. Livivng in Tasmania there is every
> chance I
> > > will
> > > > > have to do a change
> > > > > > of registration when I buy one (Hopefully Harts).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Options would be to remove alltogether or install a vented
> > > 'locker'
> > > > > (no nothing to do with
> > > > > > diffs!) on the drivers side and loose some cupboard space.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I certainly wouldn't be cooking eggs and bacon inside the van
> but
> > > like
> > > > > the idea of being
> > > > > > able to boil water for a brew.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > With 2 young children I take onboard Skots comment about extra
>
> > > space.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Regards
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Glenn
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com, Mr Scott
> > > Pitcher
> > > > > <spbconsulting@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Greg,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > My thoughts exactly.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > I built one of these swing out cookers and had a 3 way
> fridge -
> > > both
> > > > > now
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > gone - hated them both as they are smelly and in the case of
> the
> > >
> > > > > fridge
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > - very inefficient.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > I now have lots more room (once I chuck all the wife and
> kids
> > > stuff
> > > > > in
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > the awning) and a fridge that holds heaps and works great
> > > without
> > > > > any
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > smell to gas out the occupants or risk of fire.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Very happy with my current set up although a solar panel set
> up
> > > is
> > > > > on
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > the cards.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Skot
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 29/11/2012 9:24 PM, greg esposito wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hi Glenn, This may not be what you want to hear but the
> first
> > > > > thing I
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > did when I bought my bus was remove the swing out. They
> are
> > > too
> > > > > big,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > too heavy and frankly useless. A portable two burner is
> far
> > > > > better.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Also the issue you touched on - I don't want to sleep with
> gas
> > >
> > > > > bottles
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > and gas fridges. Two way and solar is the way to go imho.
> Greg
> > > E
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > *From:* gburgss <gburgss@>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > *To:* mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > *Sent:* Thursday, 29 November 2012 8:27 PM
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > *Subject:* [Syncro_T3_Australia] Gas Bottle Storage -
> Trakka
> > > > > campers
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hello all
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > My first of what will no doubt be many questions.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Can Trakka owners advise what if any issues they have with
>
> > > regard
> > > > > to
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > the Gas Bottle being stored below the swing out gas
> > > cookers.i.e -
> > > > > How
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > is this viewed by the various authorities when it is time
> to
> > > > > register
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > the vehicle. (or do you simply remove the unit before
> taking
> > > over
> > > > > the
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > pits?)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Regards
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Glenn
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> >
He is sending photos tomorrow and I will take it from there.
Can you fill me in on any details about the van. I think he said it's a Camper industries factory conversion.
15 inch wheels, power steering,rear diff lock, upgraded engine?, 3/4 pop top, Deluxe model etc.

Very keen not to loose this one.

Glenn

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, plander@... wrote:
>
> Muller is a bit slack at times. His only advertising was that he told me.
>
> When are you going to look at it?
>
> Phill
>
>
>
> > gburgss <gburgss@...> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Phill
> >
> > You are a legend! Just got off the phone with Steve (Good bloke) his T3
> > camper ticks all the boxes. I would not have been been aware of the
> > camper if you had not put me in touch with him as it's not advertised.
> >
> > Thanks again
> >
> > Glenn
> >
> > PS How good is this Group!
> >
> > --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, plander@ wrote:
> > >
> > > You're better off phoning Steve as he's not big on emails.
> > >
> > > Tell him Phill sent you.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > gburgss <gburgss@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks Phill
> > > >
> > > > I have just sent an email of to Steve to see what he has.
> > > >
> > > > Regards
> > > >
> > > > Glenn
> > > > --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, plander@ wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Steve Muller has one for sale.
> > > > >
> > > > > Do a Google for Kombirescue.
> > > > >
> > > > > Phill
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > gburgss <gburgss@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Gentlemen
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Again thanks for the input - It would seem that there are dark
> > > > forces
> > > > > > working against me in my quest for a 90 - 92 factory T3 syncro
> > > > poptop
> > > > > > camper, first missing out on Rogers and now Harts.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Any help in 'Trakking' one down would be greatly appreciated -
> > still
> > > > it
> > > > > > will give me more time to digest Decouplers, 15inch rims, diff
> > locks
> > > > and
> > > > > > VC's !
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Greg I have two boys 3&6 (at 49 I left my run a bit late but I
> > keep
> > > > > > telling myself they will keep me feeling young - so far so good)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Regards
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Glenn
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, greg esposito
> > > > > > <gregespo73@> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Did not realise you had kids Glenn. I have a two year and four
> >
> > > > year
> > > > > > old. With the swingout installed I would not have enough room
> > when
> > > > we go
> > > > > > camping. The other thing is it would be in the way of where we
> > put
> > > > the
> > > > > > porta cot at night. I don't know how heavy the trakka ones are
> > but
> > > > my
> > > > > > safari one is hard for one person to lift. Greg E
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ________________________________
> > > > > > > From: "plander@" <plander@>
> > > > > > > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > > Sent: Friday, 30 November 2012 12:46 PM
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Gas Bottle Storage
> > -
> > > > Trakka
> > > > > > campers
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ÂÂÂ
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I think that the regulations state that the gas must be in a
> > > > separate
> > > > > > compartment, vented to the outside. I know of a lot of people
> > being
> > > > > > knocked back on pre '76 Sopru vans for this.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Phill
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Ken Garratt <mailto:unclekenz%40hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Glenn,
> > > > > > > Just to fly the flag for the Trakka gas cooker cupboard and
> > add
> > > > some
> > > > > > balance to this topic.
> > > > > > > I agree a danger potential is there. I have heard of death
> > during
> > > > > > sleep by gassing.
> > > > > > > Premeditated? Negligent? Good practice?
> > > > > > > I don't recall any report of a T3 Trakka camper being gutted
> > by
> > > > fire
> > > > > > from a gas bottle
> > > > > > > incident in the cooker cupboard. Is this based on pure luck or
> >
> > > > good
> > > > > > practice?But I have seen
> > > > > > > online T3 vans gutted by fire from a fault arising in the
> > engine
> > > > bay.
> > > > > > So I ask you, where is
> > > > > > > the REAL danger?
> > > > > > > Treated with all due respect/diligence the gas bottle & cooker
> >
> > > > > > installation, including
> > > > > > > periodic maintenance of the cooker appliance, checking and if
> > > > > > necessary the replacement of
> > > > > > > the gas bottle hose and replacement of all O-Rings/flat rubber
> >
> > > > washers
> > > > > > to gas fittings plus
> > > > > > > turning the gas bottle off after each use ... all these are a
> > no
> > > > > > brainer and stand a user
> > > > > > > and their children in good stead. I contend your concerns
> > emanate
> > > > from
> > > > > > instances where this
> > > > > > > good practice has not occurred.
> > > > > > > My Trakker cooker cupboard is terrific. Works just fine.
> > Swings in
> > > > and
> > > > > > out as required. In
> > > > > > > shite weather, makes a great cup of tea or coffee and toast
> > > > inside, no
> > > > > > problem. In great
> > > > > > > weather, cook outside whatever you like with it!
> > > > > > > I wouldn't leave home without it.
> > > > > > > Cheers.
> > > > > > > Ken
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > To: mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > > From: mailto:gburgss%40yahoo.com.au
> > > > > > > Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 19:44:38 +0000
> > > > > > > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Gas Bottle Storage - Trakka
> >
> > > > campers
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Ken, Greg, Skot
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks for the input. Livivng in Tasmania there is every
> > chance I
> > > > will
> > > > > > have to do a change
> > > > > > > of registration when I buy one (Hopefully Harts).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Options would be to remove alltogether or install a vented
> > > > 'locker'
> > > > > > (no nothing to do with
> > > > > > > diffs!) on the drivers side and loose some cupboard space.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I certainly wouldn't be cooking eggs and bacon inside the van
> > but
> > > > like
> > > > > > the idea of being
> > > > > > > able to boil water for a brew.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > With 2 young children I take onboard Skots comment about extra
> >
> > > > space.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Regards
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Glenn
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com, Mr Scott
> > > > Pitcher
> > > > > > <spbconsulting@> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Greg,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > My thoughts exactly.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I built one of these swing out cookers and had a 3 way
> > fridge -
> > > > both
> > > > > > now
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > gone - hated them both as they are smelly and in the case of
> > the
> > > >
> > > > > > fridge
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > - very inefficient.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I now have lots more room (once I chuck all the wife and
> > kids
> > > > stuff
> > > > > > in
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > the awning) and a fridge that holds heaps and works great
> > > > without
> > > > > > any
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > smell to gas out the occupants or risk of fire.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Very happy with my current set up although a solar panel set
> > up
> > > > is
> > > > > > on
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > the cards.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Skot
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On 29/11/2012 9:24 PM, greg esposito wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Hi Glenn, This may not be what you want to hear but the
> > first
> > > > > > thing I
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > did when I bought my bus was remove the swing out. They
> > are
> > > > too
> > > > > > big,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > too heavy and frankly useless. A portable two burner is
> > far
> > > > > > better.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Also the issue you touched on - I don't want to sleep with
> > gas
> > > >
> > > > > > bottles
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > and gas fridges. Two way and solar is the way to go imho.
> > Greg
> > > > E
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > *From:* gburgss <gburgss@>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > *To:* mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > *Sent:* Thursday, 29 November 2012 8:27 PM
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > *Subject:* [Syncro_T3_Australia] Gas Bottle Storage -
> > Trakka
> > > > > > campers
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Hello all
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > My first of what will no doubt be many questions.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Can Trakka owners advise what if any issues they have with
> >
> > > > regard
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > the Gas Bottle being stored below the swing out gas
> > > > cookers.i.e -
> > > > > > How
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > is this viewed by the various authorities when it is time
> > to
> > > > > > register
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > the vehicle. (or do you simply remove the unit before
> > taking
> > > > over
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > pits?)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Regards
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Glenn
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
>
It is a Camperize conversion (the best one)

I have not seen the van for many years. Steve will probably be negotiable with mechanical repairs as he runs a workshop.

Phill



> gburgss <gburgss@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>
> He is sending photos tomorrow and I will take it from there.
> Can you fill me in on any details about the van. I think he said it's a
> Camper industries factory conversion.
> 15 inch wheels, power steering,rear diff lock, upgraded engine?, 3/4 pop
> top, Deluxe model etc.
>
> Very keen not to loose this one.
>
> Glenn
>
> --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, plander@... wrote:
> >
> > Muller is a bit slack at times. His only advertising was that he told
> me.
> >
> > When are you going to look at it?
> >
> > Phill
> >
> >
> >
> > > gburgss <gburgss@...> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Phill
> > >
> > > You are a legend! Just got off the phone with Steve (Good bloke) his
> T3
> > > camper ticks all the boxes. I would not have been been aware of the
> > > camper if you had not put me in touch with him as it's not
> advertised.
> > >
> > > Thanks again
> > >
> > > Glenn
> > >
> > > PS How good is this Group!
> > >
> > > --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, plander@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > > You're better off phoning Steve as he's not big on emails.
> > > >
> > > > Tell him Phill sent you.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > gburgss <gburgss@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks Phill
> > > > >
> > > > > I have just sent an email of to Steve to see what he has.
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards
> > > > >
> > > > > Glenn
> > > > > --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, plander@ wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Steve Muller has one for sale.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Do a Google for Kombirescue.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Phill
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > gburgss <gburgss@> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Gentlemen
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Again thanks for the input - It would seem that there are
> dark
> > > > > forces
> > > > > > > working against me in my quest for a 90 - 92 factory T3
> syncro
> > > > > poptop
> > > > > > > camper, first missing out on Rogers and now Harts.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Any help in 'Trakking' one down would be greatly appreciated
> -
> > > still
> > > > > it
> > > > > > > will give me more time to digest Decouplers, 15inch rims,
> diff
> > > locks
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > VC's !
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Greg I have two boys 3&6 (at 49 I left my run a bit late but
> I
> > > keep
> > > > > > > telling myself they will keep me feeling young - so far so
> good)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Regards
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Glenn
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, greg esposito
> > > > > > > <gregespo73@> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Did not realise you had kids Glenn. I have a two year and
> four
> > >
> > > > > year
> > > > > > > old. With the swingout installed I would not have enough
> room
> > > when
> > > > > we go
> > > > > > > camping. The other thing is it would be in the way of where
> we
> > > put
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > porta cot at night. I don't know how heavy the trakka ones
> are
> > > but
> > > > > my
> > > > > > > safari one is hard for one person to lift. Greg E
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ________________________________
> > > > > > > > From: "plander@" <plander@>
> > > > > > > > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > > > Sent: Friday, 30 November 2012 12:46 PM
> > > > > > > > Subject: Re: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Gas Bottle
> Storage
> > > -
> > > > > Trakka
> > > > > > > campers
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ������'�����������������������������������
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I think that the regulations state that the gas must be in
> a
> > > > > separate
> > > > > > > compartment, vented to the outside. I know of a lot of
> people
> > > being
> > > > > > > knocked back on pre '76 Sopru vans for this.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Phill
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Ken Garratt <mailto:unclekenz%40hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Glenn,
> > > > > > > > Just to fly the flag for the Trakka gas cooker cupboard
> and
> > > add
> > > > > some
> > > > > > > balance to this topic.
> > > > > > > > I agree a danger potential is there. I have heard of death
>
> > > during
> > > > > > > sleep by gassing.
> > > > > > > > Premeditated? Negligent? Good practice?
> > > > > > > > I don't recall any report of a T3 Trakka camper being
> gutted
> > > by
> > > > > fire
> > > > > > > from a gas bottle
> > > > > > > > incident in the cooker cupboard. Is this based on pure
> luck or
> > >
> > > > > good
> > > > > > > practice?But I have seen
> > > > > > > > online T3 vans gutted by fire from a fault arising in the
> > > engine
> > > > > bay.
> > > > > > > So I ask you, where is
> > > > > > > > the REAL danger?
> > > > > > > > Treated with all due respect/diligence the gas bottle &
> cooker
> > >
> > > > > > > installation, including
> > > > > > > > periodic maintenance of the cooker appliance, checking and
> if
> > > > > > > necessary the replacement of
> > > > > > > > the gas bottle hose and replacement of all O-Rings/flat
> rubber
> > >
> > > > > washers
> > > > > > > to gas fittings plus
> > > > > > > > turning the gas bottle off after each use ... all these
> are a
> > > no
> > > > > > > brainer and stand a user
> > > > > > > > and their children in good stead. I contend your concerns
> > > emanate
> > > > > from
> > > > > > > instances where this
> > > > > > > > good practice has not occurred.
> > > > > > > > My Trakker cooker cupboard is terrific. Works just fine.
> > > Swings in
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > out as required. In
> > > > > > > > shite weather, makes a great cup of tea or coffee and
> toast
> > > > > inside, no
> > > > > > > problem. In great
> > > > > > > > weather, cook outside whatever you like with it!
> > > > > > > > I wouldn't leave home without it.
> > > > > > > > Cheers.
> > > > > > > > Ken
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > To: mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > > > From: mailto:gburgss%40yahoo.com.au
> > > > > > > > Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 19:44:38 +0000
> > > > > > > > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Gas Bottle Storage -
> Trakka
> > >
> > > > > campers
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Ken, Greg, Skot
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thanks for the input. Livivng in Tasmania there is every
> > > chance I
> > > > > will
> > > > > > > have to do a change
> > > > > > > > of registration when I buy one (Hopefully Harts).
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Options would be to remove alltogether or install a vented
>
> > > > > 'locker'
> > > > > > > (no nothing to do with
> > > > > > > > diffs!) on the drivers side and loose some cupboard space.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I certainly wouldn't be cooking eggs and bacon inside the
> van
> > > but
> > > > > like
> > > > > > > the idea of being
> > > > > > > > able to boil water for a brew.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > With 2 young children I take onboard Skots comment about
> extra
> > >
> > > > > space.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Regards
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Glenn
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com, Mr
> Scott
> > > > > Pitcher
> > > > > > > <spbconsulting@> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Greg,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > My thoughts exactly.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I built one of these swing out cookers and had a 3 way
> > > fridge -
> > > > > both
> > > > > > > now
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > gone - hated them both as they are smelly and in the
> case of
> > > the
> > > > >
> > > > > > > fridge
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > - very inefficient.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I now have lots more room (once I chuck all the wife and
>
> > > kids
> > > > > stuff
> > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > the awning) and a fridge that holds heaps and works
> great
> > > > > without
> > > > > > > any
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > smell to gas out the occupants or risk of fire.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Very happy with my current set up although a solar panel
> set
> > > up
> > > > > is
> > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > the cards.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Skot
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On 29/11/2012 9:24 PM, greg esposito wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Hi Glenn, This may not be what you want to hear but
> the
> > > first
> > > > > > > thing I
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > did when I bought my bus was remove the swing out.
> They
> > > are
> > > > > too
> > > > > > > big,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > too heavy and frankly useless. A portable two burner
> is
> > > far
> > > > > > > better.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Also the issue you touched on - I don't want to sleep
> with
> > > gas
> > > > >
> > > > > > > bottles
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > and gas fridges. Two way and solar is the way to go
> imho.
> > > Greg
> > > > > E
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > *From:* gburgss <gburgss@>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > *To:* mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > *Sent:* Thursday, 29 November 2012 8:27 PM
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > *Subject:* [Syncro_T3_Australia] Gas Bottle Storage -
> > > Trakka
> > > > > > > campers
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Hello all
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> > > > > > > > > > My first of what will no doubt be many questions.
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> > > > > > > > > > Can Trakka owners advise what if any issues they have
> with
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> > > > > regard
> > > > > > > to
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> > > > > > > > > > the Gas Bottle being stored below the swing out gas
> > > > > cookers.i.e -
> > > > > > > How
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> > > > > > > > > > is this viewed by the various authorities when it is
> time
> > > to
> > > > > > > register
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> > > > > > > > > > the vehicle. (or do you simply remove the unit before
> > > taking
> > > > > over
> > > > > > > the
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> > > > > > > > > > pits?)
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> > > > > > > > > > Regards
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> > > > > > > > > > Glenn
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