Cheers
Theo.
At 09:11 PM 8/02/2011, you wrote:
>
>
>Just looking at my options for a little more
>power. Anybody running the GoWesty engine kits
>and if so what capacity and how do you find it? Any feed back would be good.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Michael Roberts
>
>
Hartmut
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
From: teows@melbpc.org.au
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 21:55:59 +1100
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] GoWesty Engine kits?
Cheers
Theo.
At 09:11 PM 8/02/2011, you wrote:
>
>
>Just looking at my options for a little more
>power. Anybody running the GoWesty engine kits
>and if so what capacity and how do you find it? Any feed back would be good.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Michael Roberts
>
>
Hart, is the 2.5 in working order, do you know what he is asking? Greg E--- On Tue, 8/2/11, Hartmut Kiehn <hartis@live.com.au> wrote: |
laughing as I overtake, uphill, in top gear...
BenC
--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, Theo Weiss <teows@...> wrote:
>
> Me too, so I'am not always the last one up a hill
>
> Cheers
>
> Theo.
>
> At 09:11 PM 8/02/2011, you wrote:
> >
> >
> >Just looking at my options for a little more
> >power. Anybody running the GoWesty engine kits
> >and if so what capacity and how do you find it? Any feed back would be good.
> >
> >Cheers,
> >
> >Michael Roberts
> >
> >
>
On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 3:28 AM, Ben <bencroft96@yahoo.com> wrote:
Theo and Micheal,to be the first up the hill you need more engine capacity.The GoWesty engine kits are a good way of doing this.Their site has good info on these engines.I did the homework.I found that although these engines have the same capacity,they are down in horsepower and had less fuel economy than the ej25.There was also talk of head gasket issues(again).
laughing as I overtake, uphill, in top gear...
BenCIt's my understanding the power gains comes primarily from an increase in compression. You might be pinging all the way the hill unless you use high octane fuel.I've driven a couple of T3's with their 2.4 engines. There is a decided improvement in acceleration compared the stock MV engine. But as BenC points out, the newer engines such as those from a Subie will run away from you. If I valued my T3 more as a future collectible, I would insist on a Wasserboxer. If your goal is to make your Syncro more usable, there is no repowering with a newer motor.--
BenT
From: BenT Syncro <syncro@gmail.com>
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, February 8, 2011 10:39:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: GoWesty Engine kits?
On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 3:28 AM, Ben <bencroft96@yahoo.com> wrote:
Theo and Micheal,to be the first up the hill you need more engine capacity.The GoWesty engine kits are a good way of doing this.Their site has good info on these engines.I did the homework.I found that although these engines have the same capacity,they are down in horsepower and had less fuel economy than the ej25.There was also talk of head gasket issues(again).
laughing as I overtake, uphill, in top gear...
BenCIt's my understanding the power gains comes primarily from an increase in compression. You might be pinging all the way the hill unless you use high octane fuel.I've driven a couple of T3's with their 2.4 engines. There is a decided improvement in acceleration compared the stock MV engine. But as BenC points out, the newer engines such as those from a Subie will run away from you. If I valued my T3 more as a future collectible, I would insist on a Wasserboxer. If your goal is to make your Syncro more usable, there is no repowering with a newer motor.--
BenT
--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, BenT Syncro <syncro@...> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 3:28 AM, Ben <bencroft96@...> wrote:
>
> > Theo and Micheal,to be the first up the hill you need more engine
> > capacity.The GoWesty engine kits are a good way of doing this.Their site has
> > good info on these engines.I did the homework.I found that although these
> > engines have the same capacity,they are down in horsepower and had less fuel
> > economy than the ej25.There was also talk of head gasket issues(again).
> >
> > laughing as I overtake, uphill, in top gear...
> > BenC
>
>
> It's my understanding the power gains comes primarily from an increase in
> compression. You might be pinging all the way the hill unless you use high
> octane fuel.
>
> I've driven a couple of T3's with their 2.4 engines. There is a decided
> improvement in acceleration compared the stock MV engine. But as BenC points
> out, the newer engines such as those from a Subie will run away from you. If
> I valued my T3 more as a future collectible, I would insist on a
> Wasserboxer. If your goal is to make your Syncro more usable, there is no
> repowering with a newer motor.
>
> --
> BenT
>
I didn't mention the 2.5 simply because I have never run into anyone who has ordered it. The local shop I deal with builds larger displacement WBX's as well. They do not like to go beyond 2.3. As you go larger in displacement, so do the displacing of cubic dollars from your wallet.
Very few people can afford to go larger. Those who do can afford other engine options.
As far as reliability, they do not seem any more unreliable than a stock 2.1. Just like the Oettinger Wasserboxers, they still have that 'coolant containment' gaskets. I suspect you would issues there before you had one as a result of the larger displacement.
I can't say much concerning welded Wasserboxer crank failures in the circles I run in.
BenT
On Feb 8, 2011, at 12:57 PM n "gregespo73" <gregespo73@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Its interesting you mention the 2.4, it seems the 2.5 is considered less than reliable. Greg E
>
> --
best would be to ring Paul on 0412 449 389
Hart
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
From: gregespo73@yahoo.com
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 03:11:04 -0800
Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] GoWesty Engine kits?
Hart, is the 2.5 in working order, do you know what he is asking? Greg E--- On Tue, 8/2/11, Hartmut Kiehn <hartis@live.com.au> wrote: |
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
From: gregespo73@yahoo.com
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 20:57:51 +0000
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: GoWesty Engine kits?
--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, BenT Syncro <syncro@...> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 3:28 AM, Ben <bencroft96@...> wrote:
>
> > Theo and Micheal,to be the first up the hill you need more engine
> > capacity.The GoWesty engine kits are a good way of doing this.Their site has
> > good info on these engines.I did the homework.I found that although these
> > engines have the same capacity,they are down in horsepower and had less fuel
> > economy than the ej25.There was also talk of head gasket issues(again).
> >
> > laughing as I overtake, uphill, in top gear...
> > BenC
>
>
> It's my understanding the power gains comes primarily from an increase in
> compression. You might be pinging all the way the hill unless you use high
> octane fuel.
>
> I've driven a couple of T3's with their 2.4 engines. There is a decided
> improvement in acceleration compared the stock MV engine. But as BenC points
> out, the newer engines such as those from a Subie will run away from you. If
> I valued my T3 more as a future collectible, I would insist on a
> Wasserboxer. If your goal is to make your Syncro more usable, there is no
> repowering with a newer motor.
>
> --
> BenT
>
I'm interested in sourcing DJ pistons myself. Did you buy them in Oz?
Cheers, Roger [Beetle Bayley].
From: "Gullyraker@aol.com" <Gullyraker@aol.com>
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, February 9, 2011 4:57:09 PM
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: GoWesty Engine kits?
Hi Michael
I'm interested in sourcing DJ pistons myself. Did you buy them in Oz?
Cheers, Roger [Beetle Bayley].
--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, Michael Roberts <type500@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Roger,
> From memory they were a special order in from German. As we have been running
> LPG on our T3 2wd since new (well 40K on the clock) we orded in a set and
> replaced them early on.  There were easiy to get at the time but not sure now.Â
> I think the cost last time we check was well over a grand for a set. I could be
> wrong.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Michael Roberts
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: "Gullyraker@..." <Gullyraker@...>
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wed, February 9, 2011 4:57:09 PM
> Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: GoWesty Engine kits?
>
> Â
> Hi Michael
> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â I'm interested in sourcing DJ pistons myself. Did you buy
> them in Oz?
> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â
> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Cheers, Roger
> [Beetle Bayley].
>
Yes we will be visiting the grand-kids, the 3rd week in March, See you then.
By the way, can the plastic coolant pipes be removed in one piece
without a hoist?
I know you done yours. I bought the SS pipes.
Cheers.
Theo
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
From: teows@melbpc.org.au
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 19:03:42 +1100
Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] GoWesty Engine kits?
Yes we will be visiting the grand-kids, the 3rd week in March, See you then.
By the way, can the plastic coolant pipes be removed in one piece
without a hoist?
I know you done yours. I bought the SS pipes.
Cheers.
Theo
--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, Hartmut Kiehn <hartis@...> wrote:
>
>
> If you want and have the time Theo ,we can do it here, yes we can pull them out, I can lift the beast pretty high and slip some German Armee Tank stands under it ! Hartmut
>
>
>
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> From: teows@...
> Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 19:03:42 +1100
> Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] GoWesty Engine kits?
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hartmut,
>
> Yes we will be visiting the grand-kids, the 3rd week in March, See you then.
> By the way, can the plastic coolant pipes be removed in one piece
> without a hoist?
> I know you done yours. I bought the SS pipes.
>
> Cheers.
>
> Theo
>
Good idea, Ben, but I would expect rates of $1000 per hour to follow soon after, rates commensurate with the centre of the universe.
Les
From:
Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Ben
Sent: 11 February 2011 19:39
To:
Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re:
GoWesty Engine kits?
Les and Hart,maybe after Skots recent troubles and
Harts amazing offer to Theo,Harts garage,in the centre of the Syncro
universe,should be put in the workshop directory!
----- Original Message -----From: BenSent: Friday, February 11, 2011 7:38 PMSubject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: GoWesty Engine kits?Les and Hart,maybe after Skots recent troubles and Harts amazing offer to Theo,Harts garage,in the centre of the Syncro universe,should be put in the workshop directory!
--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, Hartmut Kiehn <hartis@...> wrote:
>
>
> If you want and have the time Theo ,we can do it here, yes we can pull them out, I can lift the beast pretty high and slip some German Armee Tank stands under it ! Hartmut
>
>
>
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> From: teows@...
> Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 19:03:42 +1100
> Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] GoWesty Engine kits?
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hartmut,
>
> Yes we will be visiting the grand-kids, the 3rd week in March, See you then.
> By the way, can the plastic coolant pipes be removed in one piece
> without a hoist?
> I know you done yours. I bought the SS pipes.
>
> Cheers.
>
> Theo
>