With the family packed off to the inlaws for the weekend i have completed two mods that you all might like to hear about. First I fitted 2wd front springs. I also fitted a set of old man emu shocks. For what is the cheapest option re raising a syncro I think the resulting ride is fantastic. The hub to fender measurment is 47-48cm, the rear needs a small spacer to level it out. While this first job went so well I cant say the same for the second, fitting the bmw e30 brake booster. After reading a couple of american blogs I thought this should be quite easy, alas due to the fact we have our steering wheels on the right it was a troublesome fit. So basicly the issues are 1.the booster will hit the heater box to the left 2.the top will hit the body 3.the master cylinder reservoir will touch instrument cluster to the right. Good news - it does not touch at the bottom, horay!!! The fix for these problems? !1. cut the edge off the heater box 2.elongate the lower pedal box mounting holes 3.slide the cluster to the right on its mounts as much as possible. Not to be attempted by the faint harted. The result is quite good, alot less strain at the pedal. Greg E
Great work Greg.
Any photos for us less adventurous.
Thanx,
Skot
----- Original Message -----From: gregespo73Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 8:50 PMSubject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Higher and stops faster!!!With the family packed off to the inlaws for the weekend i have completed two mods that you all might like to hear about. First I fitted 2wd front springs. I also fitted a set of old man emu shocks. For what is the cheapest option re raising a syncro I think the resulting ride is fantastic. The hub to fender measurment is 47-48cm, the rear needs a small spacer to level it out. While this first job went so well I cant say the same for the second, fitting the bmw e30 brake booster. After reading a couple of american blogs I thought this should be quite easy, alas due to the fact we have our steering wheels on the right it was a troublesome fit. So basicly the issues are 1.the booster will hit the heater box to the left 2.the top will hit the body 3.the master cylinder reservoir will touch instrument cluster to the right. Good news - it does not touch at the bottom, horay!!! The fix for these problems? !1. cut the edge off the heater box 2.elongate the lower pedal box mounting holes 3.slide the cluster to the right on its mounts as much as possible. Not to be attempted by the faint harted. The result is quite good, alot less strain at the pedal. Greg E
Sorry Scott, Alice took the kids and the camera! Greg E--- On Sun, 18/7/10, Mr Scott Pitcher <spbconsulting@bigpond.com> wrote: |
Bugger.
At least we now have an expert on our hands.
Cheers,
Skot
----- Original Message -----From: greg espositoSent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 9:47 PMSubject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Higher and stops faster!!!
Sorry Scott, Alice took the kids and the camera! Greg E
--- On Sun, 18/7/10, Mr Scott Pitcher <spbconsulting@ bigpond.com> wrote:
From: Mr Scott Pitcher <spbconsulting@ bigpond.com>
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australi a] Higher and stops faster!!!
To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
Received: Sunday, 18 July, 2010, 9:35 PM
Great work Greg.Any photos for us less adventurous.Thanx,Skot----- Original Message -----From: gregespo73Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 8:50 PMSubject: [Syncro_T3_Australi a] Higher and stops faster!!!With the family packed off to the inlaws for the weekend i have completed two mods that you all might like to hear about. First I fitted 2wd front springs. I also fitted a set of old man emu shocks. For what is the cheapest option re raising a syncro I think the resulting ride is fantastic. The hub to fender measurment is 47-48cm, the rear needs a small spacer to level it out. While this first job went so well I cant say the same for the second, fitting the bmw e30 brake booster. After reading a couple of american blogs I thought this should be quite easy, alas due to the fact we have our steering wheels on the right it was a troublesome fit. So basicly the issues are 1.the booster will hit the heater box to the left 2.the top will hit the body 3.the master cylinder reservoir will touch instrument cluster to the right. Good news - it does not touch at the bottom, horay!!! The fix for these problems? !1. cut the edge off the heater box 2.elongate the lower pedal box mounting holes 3.slide the cluster to the right on its mounts as much as possible. Not to be attempted by the faint harted. The result is quite good, alot less strain at the pedal. Greg E
Has anyone here tried modifying the standard booster?
A friend of mine had a modified booster in a Golf. Unfortunately they went to far and with about 20 grams pressure on the pedal locked all 4 wheels.
A friend of mine had a modified booster in a Golf. Unfortunately they went to far and with about 20 grams pressure on the pedal locked all 4 wheels.
> Mr Scott Pitcher <spbconsulting@bigpond.com> wrote:
>
> Bugger.
>
> At least we now have an expert on our hands.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Skot
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: greg esposito
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 9:47 PM
> Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Higher and stops faster!!!
>
>
>
> Sorry Scott, Alice took the kids and the camera! Greg E
>
> --- On Sun, 18/7/10, Mr Scott Pitcher
> <spbconsulting@bigpond.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: Mr Scott Pitcher <spbconsulting@bigpond.com>
> Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Higher and stops faster!!!
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> Received: Sunday, 18 July, 2010, 9:35 PM
>
>
>
> Great work Greg.
>
> Any photos for us less adventurous.
>
> Thanx,
>
> Skot
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: gregespo73
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 8:50 PM
> Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australi a] Higher and stops faster!!!
>
>
>
> With the family packed off to the inlaws for the weekend i
> have completed two mods that you all might like to hear about. First I
> fitted 2wd front springs. I also fitted a set of old man emu shocks. For
> what is the cheapest option re raising a syncro I think the resulting
> ride is fantastic. The hub to fender measurment is 47-48cm, the rear
> needs a small spacer to level it out. While this first job went so well
> I cant say the same for the second, fitting the bmw e30 brake booster.
> After reading a couple of american blogs I thought this should be quite
> easy, alas due to the fact we have our steering wheels on the right it
> was a troublesome fit. So basicly the issues are 1.the booster will hit
> the heater box to the left 2.the top will hit the body 3.the master
> cylinder reservoir will touch instrument cluster to the right. Good news
> - it does not touch at the bottom, horay!!! The fix for these problems?
> !1. cut the edge off the heater box 2.elongate the lower pedal box
> mounting holes 3.slide the cluster to the right on its mounts as much as
> possible. Not to be attempted by the faint harted. The result is quite
> good, alot less strain at the pedal. Greg E
>
>
>
>
>
>
Thanks for sharing that, Greg. Pardon my ignorance, but I was wondering why you chose 2WD springs, and why did you install them on the front only? We're interested in OME shocks for ours too, but it makes sense to think about new springs simultaneously.
It sounds like your weekend's worth of work should make quite a difference to your Syncro's ride and handling. It must be nice to have sharper braking; well worth all that unexpected fiddling around.
Francesca.
On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 6:41 AM, <plander@optusnet.com.au> wrote:Has anyone here tried modifying the standard booster?
A friend of mine had a modified booster in a Golf. Unfortunately they went to far and with about 20 grams pressure on the pedal locked all 4 wheels.
> Mr Scott Pitcher <spbconsulting@bigpond.com> wrote:
>
> Bugger.
>
> At least we now have an expert on our hands.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Skot
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: greg esposito
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 9:47 PM
> Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Higher and stops faster!!!
>
>
>
> Sorry Scott, Alice took the kids and the camera! Greg E
>
> --- On Sun, 18/7/10, Mr Scott Pitcher
> <spbconsulting@bigpond.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: Mr Scott Pitcher <spbconsulting@bigpond.com>
> Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Higher and stops faster!!!
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> Received: Sunday, 18 July, 2010, 9:35 PM
>
>
>
> Great work Greg.
>
> Any photos for us less adventurous.
>
> Thanx,
>
> Skot
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: gregespo73
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 8:50 PM
> Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australi a] Higher and stops faster!!!
>
>
>
> With the family packed off to the inlaws for the weekend i
> have completed two mods that you all might like to hear about. First I
> fitted 2wd front springs. I also fitted a set of old man emu shocks. For
> what is the cheapest option re raising a syncro I think the resulting
> ride is fantastic. The hub to fender measurment is 47-48cm, the rear
> needs a small spacer to level it out. While this first job went so well
> I cant say the same for the second, fitting the bmw e30 brake booster.
> After reading a couple of american blogs I thought this should be quite
> easy, alas due to the fact we have our steering wheels on the right it
> was a troublesome fit. So basicly the issues are 1.the booster will hit
> the heater box to the left 2.the top will hit the body 3.the master
> cylinder reservoir will touch instrument cluster to the right. Good news
> - it does not touch at the bottom, horay!!! The fix for these problems?
> !1. cut the edge off the heater box 2.elongate the lower pedal box
> mounting holes 3.slide the cluster to the right on its mounts as much as
> possible. Not to be attempted by the faint harted. The result is quite
> good, alot less strain at the pedal. Greg E
>
>
>
>
>
>
The front 2WD springs are taller than the 4WD. They are also softer as the 2WD does not have as much weight in the front so they could have a better ride. They give more ground clearance, but can be bottomed out easier.
The rears just need a spacer as that is what VW did for the heavier diesel engine.
The rears just need a spacer as that is what VW did for the heavier diesel engine.
> Francesca Coles <fcoles6@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks for sharing that, Greg. Pardon my ignorance, but I was wondering
> why
> you chose 2WD springs, and why did you install them on the front only?
> We're
> interested in OME shocks for ours too, but it makes sense to think about
> new
> springs simultaneously.
>
> It sounds like your weekend's worth of work should make quite a
> difference
> to your Syncro's ride and handling. It must be nice to have sharper
> braking;
> well worth all that unexpected fiddling around.
>
> Francesca.
>
> On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 6:41 AM, <plander@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Has anyone here tried modifying the standard booster?
> >
> > A friend of mine had a modified booster in a Golf. Unfortunately they
> went
> > to far and with about 20 grams pressure on the pedal locked all 4
> wheels.
> >
> >
> > > Mr Scott Pitcher
> <spbconsulting@bigpond.com<spbconsulting%40bigpond.com>>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Bugger.
> > >
> > > At least we now have an expert on our hands.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > > Skot
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: greg esposito
> > > To:
> Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com<Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com
> >
> > > Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 9:47 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Higher and stops faster!!!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Sorry Scott, Alice took the kids and the camera! Greg E
> > >
> > > --- On Sun, 18/7/10, Mr Scott Pitcher
> > > <spbconsulting@bigpond.com <spbconsulting%40bigpond.com>> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > From: Mr Scott Pitcher
> <spbconsulting@bigpond.com<spbconsulting%40bigpond.com>
> > >
> > > Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Higher and stops faster!!!
> > > To:
> Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com<Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com
> >
> > > Received: Sunday, 18 July, 2010, 9:35 PM
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Great work Greg.
> > >
> > > Any photos for us less adventurous.
> > >
> > > Thanx,
> > >
> > > Skot
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: gregespo73
> > > To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
> > > Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 8:50 PM
> > > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australi a] Higher and stops faster!!!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > With the family packed off to the inlaws for the weekend i
> > > have completed two mods that you all might like to hear about. First
> I
> > > fitted 2wd front springs. I also fitted a set of old man emu shocks.
> For
> > > what is the cheapest option re raising a syncro I think the
> resulting
> > > ride is fantastic. The hub to fender measurment is 47-48cm, the rear
> > > needs a small spacer to level it out. While this first job went so
> well
> > > I cant say the same for the second, fitting the bmw e30 brake
> booster.
> > > After reading a couple of american blogs I thought this should be
> quite
> > > easy, alas due to the fact we have our steering wheels on the right
> it
> > > was a troublesome fit. So basicly the issues are 1.the booster will
> hit
> > > the heater box to the left 2.the top will hit the body 3.the master
> > > cylinder reservoir will touch instrument cluster to the right. Good
> news
> > > - it does not touch at the bottom, horay!!! The fix for these
> problems?
> > > !1. cut the edge off the heater box 2.elongate the lower pedal box
> > > mounting holes 3.slide the cluster to the right on its mounts as
> much as
> > > possible. Not to be attempted by the faint harted. The result is
> quite
> > > good, alot less strain at the pedal. Greg E
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
Thanks, Phil.
On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 9:28 AM, <plander@optusnet.com.au> wrote:The front 2WD springs are taller than the 4WD. They are also softer as the 2WD does not have as much weight in the front so they could have a better ride. They give more ground clearance, but can be bottomed out easier.
The rears just need a spacer as that is what VW did for the heavier diesel engine.> <spbconsulting@bigpond.com<spbconsulting%40bigpond.com>>
> Francesca Coles <fcoles6@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks for sharing that, Greg. Pardon my ignorance, but I was wondering
> why
> you chose 2WD springs, and why did you install them on the front only?
> We're
> interested in OME shocks for ours too, but it makes sense to think about
> new
> springs simultaneously.
>
> It sounds like your weekend's worth of work should make quite a
> difference
> to your Syncro's ride and handling. It must be nice to have sharper
> braking;
> well worth all that unexpected fiddling around.
>
> Francesca.
>
> On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 6:41 AM, <plander@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Has anyone here tried modifying the standard booster?
> >
> > A friend of mine had a modified booster in a Golf. Unfortunately they
> went
> > to far and with about 20 grams pressure on the pedal locked all 4
> wheels.
> >
> >
> > > Mr Scott Pitcher
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Bugger.
> > >
> > > At least we now have an expert on our hands.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > > Skot
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: greg esposito
> > > To:> Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com<Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com
> >
> > > Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 9:47 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Higher and stops faster!!!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Sorry Scott, Alice took the kids and the camera! Greg E
> > >
> > > --- On Sun, 18/7/10, Mr Scott Pitcher> > > <spbconsulting@bigpond.com <spbconsulting%40bigpond.com>> wrote:> <spbconsulting@bigpond.com<spbconsulting%40bigpond.com>
> > >
> > >
> > > From: Mr Scott Pitcher> Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com<Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com
> > >
> > > Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Higher and stops faster!!!
> > > To:
> >
> > > Received: Sunday, 18 July, 2010, 9:35 PM
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Great work Greg.
> > >
> > > Any photos for us less adventurous.
> > >
> > > Thanx,
> > >
> > > Skot
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: gregespo73
> > > To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
> > > Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 8:50 PM
> > > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australi a] Higher and stops faster!!!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > With the family packed off to the inlaws for the weekend i
> > > have completed two mods that you all might like to hear about. First
> I
> > > fitted 2wd front springs. I also fitted a set of old man emu shocks.
> For
> > > what is the cheapest option re raising a syncro I think the
> resulting
> > > ride is fantastic. The hub to fender measurment is 47-48cm, the rear
> > > needs a small spacer to level it out. While this first job went so
> well
> > > I cant say the same for the second, fitting the bmw e30 brake
> booster.
> > > After reading a couple of american blogs I thought this should be
> quite
> > > easy, alas due to the fact we have our steering wheels on the right
> it
> > > was a troublesome fit. So basicly the issues are 1.the booster will
> hit
> > > the heater box to the left 2.the top will hit the body 3.the master
> > > cylinder reservoir will touch instrument cluster to the right. Good
> news
> > > - it does not touch at the bottom, horay!!! The fix for these
> problems?
> > > !1. cut the edge off the heater box 2.elongate the lower pedal box
> > > mounting holes 3.slide the cluster to the right on its mounts as
> much as
> > > possible. Not to be attempted by the faint harted. The result is
> quite
> > > good, alot less strain at the pedal. Greg E
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
Francesca, if you look at the front springs on your syncro you will see they sit on the shock absorber. VW did this to make room for the front drive shaft on the syncro. On a 2wd they sit on the lower control arm so they need to be much longer.
Phill, I have attacked a couple of culvits (best I could do in suburban Melbourne) and bottoming does not seem an issue. Both springs have the same gauge wire, the syncros are probably wound tighter but it does not appear to be much of a differance. Especially since you have compressed 2wd spring much more at the point of hitting the stops. The booster rebuild sounds like a great idea, how do they get more power out of the same size diaphram? Greg E
Phill, I have attacked a couple of culvits (best I could do in suburban Melbourne) and bottoming does not seem an issue. Both springs have the same gauge wire, the syncros are probably wound tighter but it does not appear to be much of a differance. Especially since you have compressed 2wd spring much more at the point of hitting the stops. The booster rebuild sounds like a great idea, how do they get more power out of the same size diaphram? Greg E
--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, Francesca Coles <fcoles6@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks for sharing that, Greg. Pardon my ignorance, but I was wondering why
> you chose 2WD springs, and why did you install them on the front only? We're
> interested in OME shocks for ours too, but it makes sense to think about new
> springs simultaneously.
>
> It sounds like your weekend's worth of work should make quite a difference
> to your Syncro's ride and handling. It must be nice to have sharper braking;
> well worth all that unexpected fiddling around.
>
> Francesca.
>
> On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 6:41 AM, <plander@...> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Has anyone here tried modifying the standard booster?
> >
> > A friend of mine had a modified booster in a Golf. Unfortunately they went
> > to far and with about 20 grams pressure on the pedal locked all 4 wheels.
> >
> >
> > > Mr Scott Pitcher <spbconsulting@...<spbconsulting%40bigpond.com>>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Bugger.
> > >
> > > At least we now have an expert on our hands.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > > Skot
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: greg esposito
> > > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com<Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 9:47 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Higher and stops faster!!!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Sorry Scott, Alice took the kids and the camera! Greg E
> > >
> > > --- On Sun, 18/7/10, Mr Scott Pitcher
> > > <spbconsulting@... <spbconsulting%40bigpond.com>> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > From: Mr Scott Pitcher <spbconsulting@...<spbconsulting%40bigpond.com>
> > >
> > > Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Higher and stops faster!!!
> > > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com<Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > Received: Sunday, 18 July, 2010, 9:35 PM
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Great work Greg.
> > >
> > > Any photos for us less adventurous.
> > >
> > > Thanx,
> > >
> > > Skot
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: gregespo73
> > > To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
> > > Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 8:50 PM
> > > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australi a] Higher and stops faster!!!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > With the family packed off to the inlaws for the weekend i
> > > have completed two mods that you all might like to hear about. First I
> > > fitted 2wd front springs. I also fitted a set of old man emu shocks. For
> > > what is the cheapest option re raising a syncro I think the resulting
> > > ride is fantastic. The hub to fender measurment is 47-48cm, the rear
> > > needs a small spacer to level it out. While this first job went so well
> > > I cant say the same for the second, fitting the bmw e30 brake booster.
> > > After reading a couple of american blogs I thought this should be quite
> > > easy, alas due to the fact we have our steering wheels on the right it
> > > was a troublesome fit. So basicly the issues are 1.the booster will hit
> > > the heater box to the left 2.the top will hit the body 3.the master
> > > cylinder reservoir will touch instrument cluster to the right. Good news
> > > - it does not touch at the bottom, horay!!! The fix for these problems?
> > > !1. cut the edge off the heater box 2.elongate the lower pedal box
> > > mounting holes 3.slide the cluster to the right on its mounts as much as
> > > possible. Not to be attempted by the faint harted. The result is quite
> > > good, alot less strain at the pedal. Greg E
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
Hi Francesca. Hart and I put new OME shocks in my acquisition. It has an extra spacer (two in total) at the rear and overall has a fair bit of ground clearance. I have found the new shocks to be excellent but you do sacrifice comfort. The roads around Port Macquarie are not in good shape and so I do experience a rather rough ride over bumps, holes and repaired bits. However I have done a little bit of rough work on a farm road and they have been great.
Like many things in life it is a compromise!!!
Cheers, Peter
> Phill, I have attacked a couple of culvits (best I could do in suburbanThis is what I have been told by a few people that would know. Maybe you would have trouble with two fat people, a steel bull bar and a loaded van?????
> Melbourne) and bottoming does not seem an issue. Both springs have the
> same gauge wire, the syncros are probably wound tighter but it does not
> appear to be much of a differance. Especially since you have compressed
> 2wd spring much more at the point of hitting the stops.
> The booster rebuild sounds like a great idea, how do they get more power out of theI have no idea, and I really do not understand it. The booster was reconditioned and (over) modified.
> same size diaphram? Greg E
>
> --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, Francesca Coles
> <fcoles6@...> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks for sharing that, Greg. Pardon my ignorance, but I was
> wondering why
> > you chose 2WD springs, and why did you install them on the front only?
> We're
> > interested in OME shocks for ours too, but it makes sense to think
> about new
> > springs simultaneously.
> >
> > It sounds like your weekend's worth of work should make quite a
> difference
> > to your Syncro's ride and handling. It must be nice to have sharper
> braking;
> > well worth all that unexpected fiddling around.
> >
> > Francesca.
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 6:41 AM, <plander@...> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Has anyone here tried modifying the standard booster?
> > >
> > > A friend of mine had a modified booster in a Golf. Unfortunately
> they went
> > > to far and with about 20 grams pressure on the pedal locked all 4
> wheels.
> > >
> > >
> > > > Mr Scott Pitcher <spbconsulting@...<spbconsulting%40bigpond.com>>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Bugger.
> > > >
> > > > At least we now have an expert on our hands.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > >
> > > > Skot
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: greg esposito
> > > > To:
> Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com<Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com
> >
> > > > Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 9:47 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Higher and stops faster!!!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Sorry Scott, Alice took the kids and the camera! Greg E
> > > >
> > > > --- On Sun, 18/7/10, Mr Scott Pitcher
> > > > <spbconsulting@... <spbconsulting%40bigpond.com>> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > From: Mr Scott Pitcher
> <spbconsulting@...<spbconsulting%40bigpond.com>
> > > >
> > > > Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Higher and stops faster!!!
> > > > To:
> Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com<Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com
> >
> > > > Received: Sunday, 18 July, 2010, 9:35 PM
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Great work Greg.
> > > >
> > > > Any photos for us less adventurous.
> > > >
> > > > Thanx,
> > > >
> > > > Skot
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: gregespo73
> > > > To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
> > > > Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 8:50 PM
> > > > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australi a] Higher and stops faster!!!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > With the family packed off to the inlaws for the weekend i
> > > > have completed two mods that you all might like to hear about.
> First I
> > > > fitted 2wd front springs. I also fitted a set of old man emu
> shocks. For
> > > > what is the cheapest option re raising a syncro I think the
> resulting
> > > > ride is fantastic. The hub to fender measurment is 47-48cm, the
> rear
> > > > needs a small spacer to level it out. While this first job went so
> well
> > > > I cant say the same for the second, fitting the bmw e30 brake
> booster.
> > > > After reading a couple of american blogs I thought this should be
> quite
> > > > easy, alas due to the fact we have our steering wheels on the
> right it
> > > > was a troublesome fit. So basicly the issues are 1.the booster
> will hit
> > > > the heater box to the left 2.the top will hit the body 3.the
> master
> > > > cylinder reservoir will touch instrument cluster to the right.
> Good news
> > > > - it does not touch at the bottom, horay!!! The fix for these
> problems?
> > > > !1. cut the edge off the heater box 2.elongate the lower pedal box
> > > > mounting holes 3.slide the cluster to the right on its mounts as
> much as
> > > > possible. Not to be attempted by the faint harted. The result is
> quite
> > > > good, alot less strain at the pedal. Greg E
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
Thanks, Greg. That all makes sense. You must be itching to do some real off-road driving now.
Francesca.
On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 11:22 AM, gregespo73 <gregespo73@yahoo.com> wrote:
Francesca, if you look at the front springs on your syncro you will see they sit on the shock absorber. VW did this to make room for the front drive shaft on the syncro. On a 2wd they sit on the lower control arm so they need to be much longer.
Phill, I have attacked a couple of culvits (best I could do in suburban Melbourne) and bottoming does not seem an issue. Both springs have the same gauge wire, the syncros are probably wound tighter but it does not appear to be much of a differance. Especially since you have compressed 2wd spring much more at the point of hitting the stops. The booster rebuild sounds like a great idea, how do they get more power out of the same size diaphram? Greg E
--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, Francesca Coles <fcoles6@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks for sharing that, Greg. Pardon my ignorance, but I was wondering why
> you chose 2WD springs, and why did you install them on the front only? We're
> interested in OME shocks for ours too, but it makes sense to think about new
> springs simultaneously.
>
> It sounds like your weekend's worth of work should make quite a difference
> to your Syncro's ride and handling. It must be nice to have sharper braking;
> well worth all that unexpected fiddling around.
>
> Francesca.
>> On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 6:41 AM, <plander@...> wrote:> > > Mr Scott Pitcher <spbconsulting@...<spbconsulting%40bigpond.com>>
>
> >
> >
> > Has anyone here tried modifying the standard booster?
> >
> > A friend of mine had a modified booster in a Golf. Unfortunately they went
> > to far and with about 20 grams pressure on the pedal locked all 4 wheels.
> >
> >
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Bugger.
> > >
> > > At least we now have an expert on our hands.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > > Skot
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: greg esposito> > > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com<Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com>> > > <spbconsulting@... <spbconsulting%40bigpond.com>> wrote:
> > > Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 9:47 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Higher and stops faster!!!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Sorry Scott, Alice took the kids and the camera! Greg E
> > >
> > > --- On Sun, 18/7/10, Mr Scott Pitcher
> > >
> > >
> > > From: Mr Scott Pitcher <spbconsulting@...<spbconsulting%40bigpond.com>> > > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com<Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com>
> > >
> > > Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Higher and stops faster!!!
> > > Received: Sunday, 18 July, 2010, 9:35 PM
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Great work Greg.
> > >
> > > Any photos for us less adventurous.
> > >
> > > Thanx,
> > >
> > > Skot
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: gregespo73
> > > To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
> > > Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 8:50 PM
> > > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australi a] Higher and stops faster!!!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > With the family packed off to the inlaws for the weekend i
> > > have completed two mods that you all might like to hear about. First I
> > > fitted 2wd front springs. I also fitted a set of old man emu shocks. For
> > > what is the cheapest option re raising a syncro I think the resulting
> > > ride is fantastic. The hub to fender measurment is 47-48cm, the rear
> > > needs a small spacer to level it out. While this first job went so well
> > > I cant say the same for the second, fitting the bmw e30 brake booster.
> > > After reading a couple of american blogs I thought this should be quite
> > > easy, alas due to the fact we have our steering wheels on the right it
> > > was a troublesome fit. So basicly the issues are 1.the booster will hit
> > > the heater box to the left 2.the top will hit the body 3.the master
> > > cylinder reservoir will touch instrument cluster to the right. Good news
> > > - it does not touch at the bottom, horay!!! The fix for these problems?
> > > !1. cut the edge off the heater box 2.elongate the lower pedal box
> > > mounting holes 3.slide the cluster to the right on its mounts as much as
> > > possible. Not to be attempted by the faint harted. The result is quite
> > > good, alot less strain at the pedal. Greg E
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
And thanks, Peter.
On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 11:39 AM, <plander@optusnet.com.au> wrote:This is what I have been told by a few people that would know. Maybe you would have trouble with two fat people, a steel bull bar and a loaded van?????
> Phill, I have attacked a couple of culvits (best I could do in suburban
> Melbourne) and bottoming does not seem an issue. Both springs have the
> same gauge wire, the syncros are probably wound tighter but it does not
> appear to be much of a differance. Especially since you have compressed
> 2wd spring much more at the point of hitting the stops.
I have no idea, and I really do not understand it. The booster was reconditioned and (over) modified.
> The booster rebuild sounds like a great idea, how do they get more power out of the
> same size diaphram? Greg E
>
> --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, Francesca Coles
> <fcoles6@...> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks for sharing that, Greg. Pardon my ignorance, but I was
> wondering why
> > you chose 2WD springs, and why did you install them on the front only?
> We're
> > interested in OME shocks for ours too, but it makes sense to think
> about new
> > springs simultaneously.
> >
> > It sounds like your weekend's worth of work should make quite a
> difference
> > to your Syncro's ride and handling. It must be nice to have sharper
> braking;
> > well worth all that unexpected fiddling around.
> >
> > Francesca.
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 6:41 AM, <plander@...> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Has anyone here tried modifying the standard booster?
> > >
> > > A friend of mine had a modified booster in a Golf. Unfortunately
> they went
> > > to far and with about 20 grams pressure on the pedal locked all 4
> wheels.
> > >
> > >
> > > > Mr Scott Pitcher <spbconsulting@...<spbconsulting%40bigpond.com>>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Bugger.
> > > >
> > > > At least we now have an expert on our hands.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > >
> > > > Skot
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: greg esposito
> > > > To:
> Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com<Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com
> >
> > > > Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 9:47 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Higher and stops faster!!!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Sorry Scott, Alice took the kids and the camera! Greg E
> > > >
> > > > --- On Sun, 18/7/10, Mr Scott Pitcher
> > > > <spbconsulting@... <spbconsulting%40bigpond.com>> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > From: Mr Scott Pitcher
> <spbconsulting@...<spbconsulting%40bigpond.com>
> > > >
> > > > Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Higher and stops faster!!!
> > > > To:
> Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com<Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com
> >
> > > > Received: Sunday, 18 July, 2010, 9:35 PM
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Great work Greg.
> > > >
> > > > Any photos for us less adventurous.
> > > >
> > > > Thanx,
> > > >
> > > > Skot
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: gregespo73
> > > > To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
> > > > Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 8:50 PM
> > > > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australi a] Higher and stops faster!!!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > With the family packed off to the inlaws for the weekend i
> > > > have completed two mods that you all might like to hear about.
> First I
> > > > fitted 2wd front springs. I also fitted a set of old man emu
> shocks. For
> > > > what is the cheapest option re raising a syncro I think the
> resulting
> > > > ride is fantastic. The hub to fender measurment is 47-48cm, the
> rear
> > > > needs a small spacer to level it out. While this first job went so
> well
> > > > I cant say the same for the second, fitting the bmw e30 brake
> booster.
> > > > After reading a couple of american blogs I thought this should be
> quite
> > > > easy, alas due to the fact we have our steering wheels on the
> right it
> > > > was a troublesome fit. So basicly the issues are 1.the booster
> will hit
> > > > the heater box to the left 2.the top will hit the body 3.the
> master
> > > > cylinder reservoir will touch instrument cluster to the right.
> Good news
> > > > - it does not touch at the bottom, horay!!! The fix for these
> problems?
> > > > !1. cut the edge off the heater box 2.elongate the lower pedal box
> > > > mounting holes 3.slide the cluster to the right on its mounts as
> much as
> > > > possible. Not to be attempted by the faint harted. The result is
> quite
> > > > good, alot less strain at the pedal. Greg E
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
Phill I am just big boned!!!
--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, plander@... wrote:
>
>
> > Phill, I have attacked a couple of culvits (best I could do in suburban
> > Melbourne) and bottoming does not seem an issue. Both springs have the
> > same gauge wire, the syncros are probably wound tighter but it does not
> > appear to be much of a differance. Especially since you have compressed
> > 2wd spring much more at the point of hitting the stops.
>
> This is what I have been told by a few people that would know. Maybe you would have trouble with two fat people, a steel bull bar and a loaded van?????
>
>
> > The booster rebuild sounds like a great idea, how do they get more power out of the
> > same size diaphram? Greg E
>
> I have no idea, and I really do not understand it. The booster was reconditioned and (over) modified.
>
>
>
> >
> > --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, Francesca Coles
> > <fcoles6@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanks for sharing that, Greg. Pardon my ignorance, but I was
> > wondering why
> > > you chose 2WD springs, and why did you install them on the front only?
> > We're
> > > interested in OME shocks for ours too, but it makes sense to think
> > about new
> > > springs simultaneously.
> > >
> > > It sounds like your weekend's worth of work should make quite a
> > difference
> > > to your Syncro's ride and handling. It must be nice to have sharper
> > braking;
> > > well worth all that unexpected fiddling around.
> > >
> > > Francesca.
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 6:41 AM, <plander@> wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Has anyone here tried modifying the standard booster?
> > > >
> > > > A friend of mine had a modified booster in a Golf. Unfortunately
> > they went
> > > > to far and with about 20 grams pressure on the pedal locked all 4
> > wheels.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Mr Scott Pitcher <spbconsulting@<spbconsulting%40bigpond.com>>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Bugger.
> > > > >
> > > > > At least we now have an expert on our hands.
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers,
> > > > >
> > > > > Skot
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: greg esposito
> > > > > To:
> > Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com<Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com
> > >
> > > > > Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 9:47 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Higher and stops faster!!!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Sorry Scott, Alice took the kids and the camera! Greg E
> > > > >
> > > > > --- On Sun, 18/7/10, Mr Scott Pitcher
> > > > > <spbconsulting@ <spbconsulting%40bigpond.com>> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > From: Mr Scott Pitcher
> > <spbconsulting@<spbconsulting%40bigpond.com>
> > > > >
> > > > > Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Higher and stops faster!!!
> > > > > To:
> > Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com<Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com
> > >
> > > > > Received: Sunday, 18 July, 2010, 9:35 PM
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Great work Greg.
> > > > >
> > > > > Any photos for us less adventurous.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanx,
> > > > >
> > > > > Skot
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: gregespo73
> > > > > To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
> > > > > Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 8:50 PM
> > > > > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australi a] Higher and stops faster!!!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > With the family packed off to the inlaws for the weekend i
> > > > > have completed two mods that you all might like to hear about.
> > First I
> > > > > fitted 2wd front springs. I also fitted a set of old man emu
> > shocks. For
> > > > > what is the cheapest option re raising a syncro I think the
> > resulting
> > > > > ride is fantastic. The hub to fender measurment is 47-48cm, the
> > rear
> > > > > needs a small spacer to level it out. While this first job went so
> > well
> > > > > I cant say the same for the second, fitting the bmw e30 brake
> > booster.
> > > > > After reading a couple of american blogs I thought this should be
> > quite
> > > > > easy, alas due to the fact we have our steering wheels on the
> > right it
> > > > > was a troublesome fit. So basicly the issues are 1.the booster
> > will hit
> > > > > the heater box to the left 2.the top will hit the body 3.the
> > master
> > > > > cylinder reservoir will touch instrument cluster to the right.
> > Good news
> > > > > - it does not touch at the bottom, horay!!! The fix for these
> > problems?
> > > > > !1. cut the edge off the heater box 2.elongate the lower pedal box
> > > > > mounting holes 3.slide the cluster to the right on its mounts as
> > much as
> > > > > possible. Not to be attempted by the faint harted. The result is
> > quite
> > > > > good, alot less strain at the pedal. Greg E
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
>