jumping out of 4th gear

1

Hi Syncro t3 group

 

I have a 1992 t3 syncro that i have had for 19 years. And i am wondering if some one can give some advice on why it is jumping out of 4th gear ?

 

The gear box was totally rebuilt about 10 years ago . and wondering if it is a costly repair ?

 

Thanks gerard.

 

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2
Hi Gerry,

Jumping out of gear usually means the 4th gear and idler have worn flanks. 4th gear gets a lot of use and is a common failure point in a syncro .

Its re-build time unfortunately. Maybe talk to the bank manger.

Also Rudi is injured and unwell so my re-builder recommendation is gone also unfortunately.

19 years is an excellent run without major gearbox issues though - count yourself lucky!

Cheers,

Scott

On 6/09/2018 7:08 PM, Gerry Hayes gerardhayes71@outlook.com [Syncro_T3_Australia] wrote:

Hi Syncro t3 group

I have a 1992 t3 syncro that i have had for 19 years. And i am wondering if some one can give some advice on why it is jumping out of 4th gear ?

The gear box was totally rebuilt about 10 years ago . and wondering if it is a costly repair ?

Thanks gerard.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10


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Best regards, Scott Pitcher SPB Consulting
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Mine is also a ‘92, with 223,000km on the clock, and it’s had a previous gearbox rebuild, albeit quite a while back (have to check bill for date/kms)

It’s now wanting to pop out of 4th, but also likes to pop out of 1st when sitting at the lights. 
As the gearshifting is a little harder than should be, I’m leaning towards worn shift linkages etc, so am going to look at fixing that first, which is a lot easier and cheaper. 
Will report on how it goes!

Sent from my iNuke

On 6 Sep 2018, at 19:59, Scott Pitcher spbconsulting@bigpond.com [Syncro_T3_Australia] <Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Hi Gerry,

Jumping out of gear usually means the 4th gear and idler have worn flanks. 4th gear gets a lot of use and is a common failure point in a syncro .

Its re-build time unfortunately. Maybe talk to the bank manger.

Also Rudi is injured and unwell so my re-builder recommendation is gone also unfortunately.

19 years is an excellent run without major gearbox issues though - count yourself lucky!

Cheers,

Scott

On 6/09/2018 7:08 PM, Gerry Hayes gerardhayes71@outlook.com [Syncro_T3_Australia] wrote:
 

Hi Syncro t3 group

 

I have a 1992 t3 syncro that i have had for 19 years. And i am wondering if some one can give some advice on why it is jumping out of 4th gear ?

 

The gear box was totally rebuilt about 10 years ago . and wondering if it is a costly repair ?

 

Thanks gerard.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


--
Best regards, Scott Pitcher SPB Consulting

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There is a mechanic in Wollongong area who rebuilds the gear boxes he did a friends of mine and he is happy with the job, look on google for vw repairs  ,I had mine done by Rudi which cost $7300-00 which included changing the gear ratios on 2/3/4 gears, also in the Bundanoon area  there is another who also sells parts cannot think of his phone number.
Bob Dale
 
Sent: Thursday, September 6, 2018 10:39 PM
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] jumping out of 4th gear
 
 

Mine is also a ‘92, with 223,000km on the clock, and it’s had a previous gearbox rebuild, albeit quite a while back (have to check bill for date/kms)

 
It’s now wanting to pop out of 4th, but also likes to pop out of 1st when sitting at the lights.
As the gearshifting is a little harder than should be, I’m leaning towards worn shift linkages etc, so am going to look at fixing that first, which is a lot easier and cheaper.
Will report on how it goes!

Sent from my iNuke

On 6 Sep 2018, at 19:59, Scott Pitcher spbconsulting@bigpond.com [Syncro_T3_Australia] <Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Hi Gerry,

Jumping out of gear usually means the 4th gear and idler have worn flanks. 4th gear gets a lot of use and is a common failure point in a syncro .

Its re-build time unfortunately. Maybe talk to the bank manger.

Also Rudi is injured and unwell so my re-builder recommendation is gone also unfortunately.

19 years is an excellent run without major gearbox issues though - count yourself lucky!

Cheers,

Scott

On 6/09/2018 7:08 PM, Gerry Hayes gerardhayes71@outlook.com [Syncro_T3_Australia] wrote:
 

Hi Syncro t3 group

I have a 1992 t3 syncro that i have had for 19 years. And i am wondering if some one can give some advice on why it is jumping out of 4th gear ?

The gear box was totally rebuilt about 10 years ago . and wondering if it is a costly repair ?

Thanks gerard.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10


--
Best regards, Scott Pitcher SPB Consulting
5
Wow $7,300 - I assume that included removal and refitting? 

And what ratio changes did you go for on 2/3/4? Higher or lower? Was it for better drive off-road, or for lower revs on road? Assuming you are still on original wasserbox, or is this a Subaru?
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No it did not as the box had to be sent to Bribie island and i am in Sydney, i went to a higher gear ratio to lower the engine revs on the highway, the mechanic who Removed  said that i have nailed it regarding the ratios, have not tried it off road yet, his cost to R&R the box,replace clutch and pressure plate and 2 universals was $2300-00 he also rebuilt the clutch fork, Rudis labour cost was app $1200-00 plus parts ,the pinion gear had lost teeth which also affected the crown wheel, mine had the same problem changing gears 1st and 3rd
Bob Dale
 
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2018 3:00 AM
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] jumping out of 4th gear
 
 

Wow $7,300 - I assume that included removal and refitting? 

 
And what ratio changes did you go for on 2/3/4? Higher or lower? Was it for better drive off-road, or for lower revs on road? Assuming you are still on original wasserbox, or is this a Subaru?
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The motor is a oetlinger 2-5l 90kw  bob
 
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2018 3:00 AM
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] jumping out of 4th gear
 
 

Wow $7,300 - I assume that included removal and refitting? 

 
And what ratio changes did you go for on 2/3/4? Higher or lower? Was it for better drive off-road, or for lower revs on road? Assuming you are still on original wasserbox, or is this a Subaru?
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$1200.00 labour would seem quite reasonable, the cost goes up sharply if you need gears. If only bearings and seals are required the cost would be much less, thus it is a good idea to get it done early before more damage is done,

Neil.
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On Tue, 11/9/18, 'RC Dale' rcdale@bigpond.com [Syncro_T3_Australia] <Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] jumping out of 4th gear
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Received: Tuesday, 11 September, 2018, 2:00 PM
















No it did not as the box had to be sent to Bribie
island and i am in
Sydney, i went to a higher gear ratio to lower the engine
revs on the highway,
the mechanic who Removed said that i have nailed it
regarding the ratios,
have not tried it off road yet, his cost to R&R the
box,replace clutch and
pressure plate and 2 universals was $2300-00 he also rebuilt
the clutch fork,
Rudis labour cost was app $1200-00 plus parts ,the pinion
gear had lost teeth
which also affected the crown wheel, mine had the same
problem changing gears
1st and 3rd
Bob Dale




From: lepews@me.com
[Syncro_T3_Australia]
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2018 3:00 AM
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com


Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] jumping out
of 4th
gear




Wow $7,300 - I assume that included removal and
refitting?

And what ratio changes did you go for on 2/3/4? Higher
or lower? Was it for
better drive off-road, or for lower revs on road? Assuming
you are still on
original wasserbox, or is this a
Subaru?










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