Looking for Syncro 16 Wheel Arches and info about other type of VW arches

On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 11:22 PM, nerdnetty <amortensen@westnet.com.au> wrote:
>Hey Guys,
          Ive been thinking of getting some 16 in extryded flares
which is amost a mudflap topic.
Also they did make some syncros in SA in 1993 i think with big windows



                       Regards Pete
 
CHANGED Subjectline. BenT
 
 
Hello Pete,
 
The Syncro 16 polyurethane arches are getting difficult to obtain new. Some of pieces (oit of the six) has been NLA
in VW's worldwide inventory for some time. I probably got one of the few complete sets still kicking around in the VW
warehouses a few years ago. Back then I was able to get them from a very friendly VW parts manager and fellow Syncro
enthusiast named Rennie Wibble. IIRC, independent dealers in US and Canada were selling them for $1000-$1200 (USD)
for the set. He sold me two sets at $479. Imagine my amazement when my old arches sold for $400. Last I heard those
same beat-up arches sold for over $650.
 
After that experience, I decided to undertake a project to replicate some arches in fiberglass. I got as far as making the
front arches before financing hassles stopped my project short. For the record, the problem was not mine but rather the
banker I was using at the country of manufacture. Anyway, the front arches are simple enough. There are 2 pieces which 
are riveted to the front doors. They swing out with the door and cover the stock steel arch.
 
Just a few words of caution. There are 3 types of factory arches. The Syncro 16 which I believe Phill Landers has on his
Syncro are made of poly. They require the cutting of the lower rear section of the front arches. Or to be exact, they were
designed to conceal where VW cut the front wheel arches for tire clearance. The rears are single arch units but also requires
cutting of the wheel opening. Again this was to accommodate the slightly longer wheelbase and larger tire.
 
I realize you did not ask about the two other types but let me mention in here lest you make the same mistake I made before.
Bought a set on German Ebay thinking I was getting 16" arches. They turned out to be Tristar rear arches plus ABS front
arches for the German Post Office vans and trucks. The Tristar arches are amde of the same material as the 16 arches except 
they do not require any wheel steel arch cutting. In fact, they appear to have been designed to make the wheel opening to 
appear smaller. The top portion drops the opening size by about 2 inches. Even here are differnt ones as well. The 2 rear pieces
for the front 2-piece set comes in either Syncro or 2wd on the right side. 2WD versions have a cut-out for gas filler hole. As for
the Bundespost vans, they got arches made of the cheaper ABS Plastic. The exterior was a stippled (pebblegrain?) finish. I have
only seen the 2wd version so not sure if they are available w/o the gas filler cut-out. Again, these do not require any cutting. My understanding is they were designed to cover the steel arches so the local postal worker did not get their trousers dirty when they
get in and out of the vehicle.  
 
 
 
BenT
 
ps: beware of aftermarket arches or flairs which widen the wheel opening. most will not clear sliding doors w/o any modifications.

Hello BenT,

It’s funny this topic popped up just now.  I was down getting a new fibreglass body made for my FVon the weekend and I saw a set of moulds for a mk1 Escort arches.  This got me thinking about moulds for a 16” Syncro Wheel Arches.  He says he can make moulds and arches not a problem, now I just have to find some to copy, and that sounds like it might be getting quite difficult.  

 

You mentioned beware of aftermarket arches or flairs which widen the wheel opening.  Most will not clear sliding doors w/o any modifications.  This is a good point to remember if I have to go down the path of making some up from scratch.

 

Cheers,



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On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 5:12 PM, Michael Roberts <type500@yahoo.com> wrote:

Hello BenT,

It's funny this topic popped up just now.  I was down getting a new fibreglass body made for my FVon the weekend and I saw a set of moulds for a mk1 Escort arches.  This got me thinking about moulds for a 16" Syncro Wheel Arches.  He says he can make moulds and arches not a problem, now I just have to find some to copy, and that sounds like it might be getting quite difficult.  

 

You mentioned beware of aftermarket arches or flairs which widen the wheel opening.  Most will not clear sliding doors w/o any modifications.  This is a good point to remember if I have to go down the path of making some up from scratch.

 

Cheers,

 
Hi Michael,
 
The plug (the one you are copying) must be damage free. I made that mistake before. My resulting arches replicated everything down to the scrathes. =(
 
Here's a couple of pics for you. The first two are Syncro 16 arches as installed on my Syncro 16 Doka. Pic #3 are what the rears look like before they are installed. Pic #4 are Trisar rears. Note the smaller resulting opening. The last pic shows the difference between Syncro & 2wd arches. Note the cut-out for gas filler. The upper arch is actually a replica.
 
 
BenT
On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 5:46 PM, BenT Syncro <syncro@gmail.com> wrote:
 The upper arch is actually a replica.
 
 
Whoops! Got it backwards. The lower (no cutout) is the copy. The grungy one is straight off a postal service van from Germany.
 
Unfortunately, these photos do not do any justice to quality of the 16 arches. They are much thicker and more substantial the
pics might suggest. Here's another pic which might illustrate what I mean better. The upper set is a used ABS Postal Service
arch. The lower one is a urethane Syncro 16 arch painted to match the car. The rear section is new and unpainted. Last pic is
here just so you can see how the top piece actually moves with the door.
 
 
 
BenT