My Syncro for sale

garycookson2 · 8 May 2011 05:15

Hi everyone

Due to a distinct lack of time to work on my syncro and ongoing work pressure i'm tentatively offering it for sale to the list. It's an unusual bus and won't take much for someone to complete to 100 percent. I've spent a fortune on it but the grand plan of a year out to tour Australia is looking unlikely so if someone wants to buy it then I'll sell but only at a sensible price. I'm asking $15k. I've attached a couple of pics from a recent camping trip.

The details:

T3 Syncro factory diesel 1.6TD 1987. Dual difflocks.

Autohomes Camper conversion. Sleeps 2 adults below and 2 kids above comfortably. The top bunks are fine for adults too. Lots of cupboards, 2 burner gas stove with grill below. Gas, 12v and 240v Fridge. 12v pumped watertank with external filler and interior level gauge. The rear seats and bed cushion I had reupholstered and van has new curtains. Swivel passenger front seat. New rear seat belts. 240v hookup.

The bus was imported from the UK in 1989 when its first owner moved to Australia, speedo is in Miles (with kmh marked speedo as well). 135k miles on the clock which equates to 217k kilometres. The engine was rebuilt at 95k and a new turbo fitted at 120k. The books are stamped up to 98k. It has been registered in QLD, ACT, NSW and VIC previously. I've recently fitted biodiesel compatible victron seals to the fuel pump. I've had lots of work completed recently on the pump and general servicing over the last few years, all documented. New battery at Christmas. Has a dual battery system with the second battery under the passenger seat. Main battery is in the engine bay on diesels.

It has 4 BFG All Terrains 215 75 15s on Merc rims plus a brand new unfitted set of 5 Mefro load rated steel rims imported from Germany. The BFGs have travelled only about 2 thousand kilometres.

I recently fitted new front upper ball joints as well as new Old Man Emu shock absorbers front and rear, and German Autoseikel springs which I bought from Hart. It is a nice practical lift and works well with a full camper. The bus has a rack on the front of the cab which you can add heavy stuff too without causing lots of diving like it used to with the old springs.

The VC in the bus has gone passive but a brand new VC is included in the price. This came from Classic Spares in Germany. The rear drums are a touch out of round but 2 brand new ones also included.

There is an alloy front bullbar on the bus plus a spare steel one and a rear wheel carrier from a Nissan Pathfinder I was planning to fit to the rear.

What needs doing:

The body is rust free but has a few dents. Photos can be supplied. Looks like it had some anti corrosion wax injected at some stage.

Needs a new rear bumper and some brackets making to properly fit the alloy bullbar or refit the steel one and put a new standard bumper back on.

The muffler has a crack in it where it joins the mounts which could be welded (I did the other side last year) or a new one is $200 from Just Kampers.

Fit the new VC.

Fit the rear drums.

Rear wheel carrier needs fabricating.

The engine runs well and is perfectly adequate power wise around town. It will cruise at 100kmhr quite happily but you don't have much acceleration from that speed. Extremely economical. Not exactly sure what the consumption figures are but it seems very cheap to run.

I'm offering it here first because this kind of bus really needs an enthusiast but I may add to Aussie Vee Dubbers and Kombi Forum next week. If I get no takers I may put it on Carsales.

If anyone wants to have a chat about please call me on 0417 352782 or 9942 3450 during office hours. Bus is in North Fitzroy, Vic 3068.

Best wishes

Gary Cookson

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syncro · 8 May 2011 07:42

Gary,

Contact me if you wish to sell the brand new unfitted set of 5 Mefro steel rims seperately.

Phill

plander@optusnet.com.au

> Gary Cookson <gary@twentytwentyone.net> wrote:
>
> Hi everyone
>
> Due to a distinct lack of time to work on my syncro and ongoing work
> pressure i'm tentatively offering it for sale to the list. It's an
> unusual bus and won't take much for someone to complete to 100 percent.
> I've spent a fortune on it but the grand plan of a year out to tour
> Australia is looking unlikely so if someone wants to buy it then I'll
> sell but only at a sensible price. I'm asking $15k. I've attached a
> couple of pics from a recent camping trip.
>
> The details:
>
> T3 Syncro factory diesel 1.6TD 1987. Dual difflocks.
> Autohomes Camper conversion. Sleeps 2 adults below and 2 kids above
> comfortably. The top bunks are fine for adults too. Lots of cupboards, 2
> burner gas stove with grill below. Gas, 12v and 240v Fridge. 12v pumped
> watertank with external filler and interior level gauge. The rear seats
> and bed cushion I had reupholstered and van has new curtains. Swivel
> passenger front seat. New rear seat belts. 240v hookup.
>
> The bus was imported from the UK in 1989 when its first owner moved to
> Australia, speedo is in Miles (with kmh marked speedo as well). 135k
> miles on the clock which equates to 217k kilometres. The engine was
> rebuilt at 95k and a new turbo fitted at 120k. The books are stamped up
> to 98k. It has been registered in QLD, ACT, NSW and VIC previously. I've
> recently fitted biodiesel compatible victron seals to the fuel pump.
> I've had lots of work completed recently on the pump and general
> servicing over the last few years, all documented. New battery at
> Christmas. Has a dual battery system with the second battery under the
> passenger seat. Main battery is in the engine bay on diesels.
>
> It has 4 BFG All Terrains 215 75 15s on Merc rims plus a brand new
> unfitted set of 5 Mefro load rated steel rims imported from Germany. The
> BFGs have travelled only about 2 thousand kilometres.
>
> I recently fitted new front upper ball joints as well as new Old Man Emu
> shock absorbers front and rear, and German Autoseikel springs which I
> bought from Hart. It is a nice practical lift and works well with a full
> camper. The bus has a rack on the front of the cab which you can add
> heavy stuff too without causing lots of diving like it used to with the
> old springs.
>
> The VC in the bus has gone passive but a brand new VC is included in the
> price. This came from Classic Spares in Germany. The rear drums are a
> touch out of round but 2 brand new ones also included.
>
> There is an alloy front bullbar on the bus plus a spare steel one and a
> rear wheel carrier from a Nissan Pathfinder I was planning to fit to the
> rear.
>
> What needs doing:
>
> The body is rust free but has a few dents. Photos can be supplied. Looks
> like it had some anti corrosion wax injected at some stage.
> Needs a new rear bumper and some brackets making to properly fit the
> alloy bullbar or refit the steel one and put a new standard bumper back
> on.
> The muffler has a crack in it where it joins the mounts which could be
> welded (I did the other side last year) or a new one is $200 from Just
> Kampers.
> Fit the new VC.
> Fit the rear drums.
> Rear wheel carrier needs fabricating.
>
> The engine runs well and is perfectly adequate power wise around town.
> It will cruise at 100kmhr quite happily but you don't have much
> acceleration from that speed. Extremely economical. Not exactly sure
> what the consumption figures are but it seems very cheap to run.
>
> I'm offering it here first because this kind of bus really needs an
> enthusiast but I may add to Aussie Vee Dubbers and Kombi Forum next
> week. If I get no takers I may put it on Carsales.
>
> If anyone wants to have a chat about please call me on 0417 352782 or
> 9942 3450 during office hours. Bus is in North Fitzroy, Vic 3068.
> Best wishes
> Gary Cookson
>
>
>
>
>
> IMG_3408.JPG
>
>
>
> IMG_3413.JPG
>

garycookson2 · 8 May 2011 12:14

Will do Phil but only if someone doesn't want them. If i can't sell it i'll fit them

Cheers

Gary

On 08/05/2011, at 5:42 PM, plander@optusnet.com.au wrote:

Gary,

Contact me if you wish to sell the brand new unfitted set of 5 Mefro steel rims seperately.

Phill

plander@optusnet.com.au

> Gary Cookson <gary@twentytwentyone.net> wrote:
>
> Hi everyone
>
> Due to a distinct lack of time to work on my syncro and ongoing work
> pressure i'm tentatively offering it for sale to the list. It's an
> unusual bus and won't take much for someone to complete to 100 percent.
> I've spent a fortune on it but the grand plan of a year out to tour
> Australia is looking unlikely so if someone wants to buy it then I'll
> sell but only at a sensible price. I'm asking $15k. I've attached a
> couple of pics from a recent camping trip.
>
> The details:
>
> T3 Syncro factory diesel 1.6TD 1987. Dual difflocks.
> Autohomes Camper conversion. Sleeps 2 adults below and 2 kids above
> comfortably. The top bunks are fine for adults too. Lots of cupboards, 2
> burner gas stove with grill below. Gas, 12v and 240v Fridge. 12v pumped
> watertank with external filler and interior level gauge. The rear seats
> and bed cushion I had reupholstered and van has new curtains. Swivel
> passenger front seat. New rear seat belts. 240v hookup.
>
> The bus was imported from the UK in 1989 when its first owner moved to
> Australia, speedo is in Miles (with kmh marked speedo as well). 135k
> miles on the clock which equates to 217k kilometres. The engine was
> rebuilt at 95k and a new turbo fitted at 120k. The books are stamped up
> to 98k. It has been registered in QLD, ACT, NSW and VIC previously. I've
> recently fitted biodiesel compatible victron seals to the fuel pump.
> I've had lots of work completed recently on the pump and general
> servicing over the last few years, all documented. New battery at
> Christmas. Has a dual battery system with the second battery under the
> passenger seat. Main battery is in the engine bay on diesels.
>
> It has 4 BFG All Terrains 215 75 15s on Merc rims plus a brand new
> unfitted set of 5 Mefro load rated steel rims imported from Germany. The
> BFGs have travelled only about 2 thousand kilometres.
>
> I recently fitted new front upper ball joints as well as new Old Man Emu
> shock absorbers front and rear, and German Autoseikel springs which I
> bought from Hart. It is a nice practical lift and works well with a full
> camper. The bus has a rack on the front of the cab which you can add
> heavy stuff too without causing lots of diving like it used to with the
> old springs.
>
> The VC in the bus has gone passive but a brand new VC is included in the
> price. This came from Classic Spares in Germany. The rear drums are a
> touch out of round but 2 brand new ones also included.
>
> There is an alloy front bullbar on the bus plus a spare steel one and a
> rear wheel carrier from a Nissan Pathfinder I was planning to fit to the
> rear.
>
> What needs doing:
>
> The body is rust free but has a few dents. Photos can be supplied. Looks
> like it had some anti corrosion wax injected at some stage.
> Needs a new rear bumper and some brackets making to properly fit the
> alloy bullbar or refit the steel one and put a new standard bumper back
> on.
> The muffler has a crack in it where it joins the mounts which could be
> welded (I did the other side last year) or a new one is $200 from Just
> Kampers.
> Fit the new VC.
> Fit the rear drums.
> Rear wheel carrier needs fabricating.
>
> The engine runs well and is perfectly adequate power wise around town.
> It will cruise at 100kmhr quite happily but you don't have much
> acceleration from that speed. Extremely economical. Not exactly sure
> what the consumption figures are but it seems very cheap to run.
>
> I'm offering it here first because this kind of bus really needs an
> enthusiast but I may add to Aussie Vee Dubbers and Kombi Forum next
> week. If I get no takers I may put it on Carsales.
>
> If anyone wants to have a chat about please call me on 0417 352782 or
> 9942 3450 during office hours. Bus is in North Fitzroy, Vic 3068.
> Best wishes
> Gary Cookson
>
>
>
>
>
> IMG_3408.JPG
>
>
>
> IMG_3413.JPG
>

kombi4x427lc · 9 May 2011 04:57

Hi All,

Just checking who is planning to come along to the NSW / Sydney
Nationals this year?

Also are you putting your vehicle in and if so can we get a Syncro
corale going again like last year?

Cheers,

Skot

unclekenz · 9 May 2011 06:11

Scott,

That undercover arrangement last year took many months on and off of negotiation between various parties to pull off, so I'd say a snowballs chance in hell for 22/05/2011. I also understand other variant groups were totally jealous of our allocated space undercover and so I wouldn't be at all surprised if organisers have had to fend off other claimants this year for their turn at the same premium space. We probably opened for the organisers an unwanted pandoras box last year. It was splendid and unique but a one off accommodation. See if you can prove me wrong ok, I'd be happy to be.

Nearest alternative I suspect would be a group hug of beasts out in the carpark.

Given there has been no weekend away camping trip for Sydney region beasts this year, maybe this carpark group hug is all that's going to eventuate, so better be in it!

Depending upon what's happening here nearer to the time, I'll decide then, given mine is not a show pony.

I guess the convoy from Kariong is still happening, but with all the extended roadworks happening up there still, maybe a problem finding a suitable meet up place?

Cheers.

Ken

To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
From: spbconsulting@bigpond.com
Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 14:57:49 +1000
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] 2011 Nationals Sunday May 22, 2011

Hi All,

Just checking who is planning to come along to the NSW / Sydney
Nationals this year?

Also are you putting your vehicle in and if so can we get a Syncro
corale going again like last year?

Cheers,

Skot

kombi4x427lc · 9 May 2011 06:59

On 9/05/2011 4:11 PM, Ken Garratt wrote:

Scott,

That undercover arrangement last year took many months on and off of negotiation between various parties to pull off, so I'd say a snowballs chance in hell for 22/05/2011. I also understand other variant groups were totally jealous of our allocated space undercover and so I wouldn't be at all surprised if organisers have had to fend off other claimants this year for their turn at the same premium space. We probably opened for the organisers an unwanted pandoras box last year. It was splendid and unique but a one off accommodation. See if you can prove me wrong ok, I'd be happy to be.

Nearest alternative I suspect would be a group hug of beasts out in the carpark.

Given there has been no weekend away camping trip for Sydney region beasts this year, maybe this carpark group hug is all that's going to eventuate, so better be in it!

Depending upon what's happening here nearer to the time, I'll decide then, given mine is not a show pony.

I guess the convoy from Kariong is still happening, but with all the extended roadworks happening up there still, maybe a problem finding a suitable meet up place?

Cheers.

Ken

To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
From: spbconsulting@bigpond.com
Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 14:57:49 +1000
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] 2011 Nationals Sunday May 22, 2011

Hi All,

Just checking who is planning to come along to the NSW / Sydney
Nationals this year?

Also are you putting your vehicle in and if so can we get a Syncro
corale going again like last year?

Cheers,

Skot

Ken,

I would agree - it needed Mark to organise this as he has contacts in the Nationals hierarchy which the rest of us do not so I see this wont happen.

My boss wants to put the syncro in the show so she will be on her way down early. I will be venturing down once the Princesses wake up and I have fed and dressed them. That will mean around 11:00am before I even get there in my old 71 bus.

Anyway, the car park is a possibility but not where all the action is.

Also I agree about Kariong - it will look like that for another 10 years the way they are going.

We will work something out. I was thinking about going into the area, saying I am entering the show then parking outside just next to the undercover area. I have done this before and you are still almost in the action and is much better than the outer car park.

Cheers,

Skot

bencroft96 · 9 May 2011 07:24

Ken,Skot and Mark and others.
If Mark has the contacts and could find out where they plan to put us that would be great.It was a great day last year,but I dont see the point of going with my bus if we are going to be put out in the carpark or out in some back paddock.I will be there with or without the Syncro.
Has anyone seen the classes?Is there not a class for Syncros?I hope so
Skots been polishing for weeks!:)
BenC

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, Scott Pitcher <spbconsulting@...> wrote:
>
> On 9/05/2011 4:11 PM, Ken Garratt wrote:
> >
> >
> > Scott,
> >
> > That undercover arrangement last year took many months on and off of
> > negotiation between various parties to pull off, so I'd say a
> > snowballs chance in hell for 22/05/2011. I also understand other
> > variant groups were totally jealous of our allocated space undercover
> > and so I wouldn't be at all surprised if organisers have had to fend
> > off other claimants this year for their turn at the same premium
> > space. We probably opened for the organisers an unwanted pandoras box
> > last year. It was splendid and unique but a one off accommodation. See
> > if you can prove me wrong ok, I'd be happy to be.
> >
> > Nearest alternative I suspect would be a group hug of beasts out in
> > the carpark.
> >
> > Given there has been no weekend away camping trip for Sydney region
> > beasts this year, maybe this carpark group hug is all that's going to
> > eventuate, so better be in it!
> >
> > Depending upon what's happening here nearer to the time, I'll decide
> > then, given mine is not a show pony.
> >
> > I guess the convoy from Kariong is still happening, but with all the
> > extended roadworks happening up there still, maybe a problem finding a
> > suitable meet up place?
> >
> > Cheers.
> >
> > Ken
> >
> >
> >
> > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > From: spbconsulting@...
> > Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 14:57:49 +1000
> > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] 2011 Nationals Sunday May 22, 2011
> >
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> > Just checking who is planning to come along to the NSW / Sydney
> > Nationals this year?
> >
> > Also are you putting your vehicle in and if so can we get a Syncro
> > corale going again like last year?
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Skot
> >
> >
> >
> Ken,
>
> I would agree - it needed Mark to organise this as he has contacts in
> the Nationals hierarchy which the rest of us do not so I see this wont
> happen.
>
> My boss wants to put the syncro in the show so she will be on her way
> down early. I will be venturing down once the Princesses wake up and I
> have fed and dressed them. That will mean around 11:00am before I even
> get there in my old 71 bus.
>
> Anyway, the car park is a possibility but not where all the action is.
>
> Also I agree about Kariong - it will look like that for another 10 years
> the way they are going.
>
> We will work something out. I was thinking about going into the area,
> saying I am entering the show then parking outside just next to the
> undercover area. I have done this before and you are still almost in the
> action and is much better than the outer car park.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Skot
>

markkofahl · 9 May 2011 09:03

Ben, Ken, Skot and all

I'd love to see the Syncro lineup again and Ken is certainly correct that it took quite some organisation last year.

Regrettably last year the president made some negative remarks to me, peppered with language that some individuals would find offensive, about the extraordinary inconvenience it presented to the organisers. I do not share this view. I would have preferred a 'Thanks for organising a display & lineup, and next year could we try doing it a little differently'

Needless to say, following those comments I have elected not to pursue a Syncro line-up again.

That all said, I would love to see all the Syncros together, and I would love to do some camping, however, I know Skot is not keen on this generally immediately before a show when trying to keep the vehicle neat and clean inside and out (agreed this impossible when camping).

A carpark assembly and then joint run into the show is the only thing I can think of, such that all vehicles arrive simultaneously into the undercroft.

Mark.

On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 5:24 PM, Ben <bencroft96@yahoo.com> wrote:

Ken,Skot and Mark and others.
If Mark has the contacts and could find out where they plan to put us that would be great.It was a great day last year,but I dont see the point of going with my bus if we are going to be put out in the carpark or out in some back paddock.I will be there with or without the Syncro.
Has anyone seen the classes?Is there not a class for Syncros?I hope so
Skots been polishing for weeks!:)
BenC

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, Scott Pitcher <spbconsulting@...> wrote:
>
> On 9/05/2011 4:11 PM, Ken Garratt wrote:
> >
> >
> > Scott,
> >
> > That undercover arrangement last year took many months on and off of
> > negotiation between various parties to pull off, so I'd say a
> > snowballs chance in hell for 22/05/2011. I also understand other
> > variant groups were totally jealous of our allocated space undercover
> > and so I wouldn't be at all surprised if organisers have had to fend
> > off other claimants this year for their turn at the same premium
> > space. We probably opened for the organisers an unwanted pandoras box
> > last year. It was splendid and unique but a one off accommodation. See
> > if you can prove me wrong ok, I'd be happy to be.
> >
> > Nearest alternative I suspect would be a group hug of beasts out in
> > the carpark.
> >
> > Given there has been no weekend away camping trip for Sydney region
> > beasts this year, maybe this carpark group hug is all that's going to
> > eventuate, so better be in it!
> >
> > Depending upon what's happening here nearer to the time, I'll decide
> > then, given mine is not a show pony.
> >
> > I guess the convoy from Kariong is still happening, but with all the
> > extended roadworks happening up there still, maybe a problem finding a
> > suitable meet up place?
> >
> > Cheers.
> >
> > Ken
> >
> >
> >
> > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > From: spbconsulting@...

> > Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 14:57:49 +1000
> > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] 2011 Nationals Sunday May 22, 2011
> >
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> > Just checking who is planning to come along to the NSW / Sydney
> > Nationals this year?
> >
> > Also are you putting your vehicle in and if so can we get a Syncro
> > corale going again like last year?
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Skot
> >
> >
> >
> Ken,
>
> I would agree - it needed Mark to organise this as he has contacts in
> the Nationals hierarchy which the rest of us do not so I see this wont
> happen.
>
> My boss wants to put the syncro in the show so she will be on her way
> down early. I will be venturing down once the Princesses wake up and I
> have fed and dressed them. That will mean around 11:00am before I even
> get there in my old 71 bus.
>
> Anyway, the car park is a possibility but not where all the action is.
>
> Also I agree about Kariong - it will look like that for another 10 years
> the way they are going.
>
> We will work something out. I was thinking about going into the area,
> saying I am entering the show then parking outside just next to the
> undercover area. I have done this before and you are still almost in the
> action and is much better than the outer car park.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Skot
>

kombi4x427lc · 9 May 2011 09:17

On 9/05/2011 5:24 PM, Ben wrote:

Ken,Skot and Mark and others.
If Mark has the contacts and could find out where they plan to put us that would be great.It was a great day last year,but I dont see the point of going with my bus if we are going to be put out in the carpark or out in some back paddock.I will be there with or without the Syncro.
Has anyone seen the classes?Is there not a class for Syncros?I hope so
Skots been polishing for weeks!:)
BenC
--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, Scott Pitcher <spbconsulting@...> wrote:
>
> On 9/05/2011 4:11 PM, Ken Garratt wrote:
> >
> >
> > Scott,
> >
> > That undercover arrangement last year took many months on and off of
> > negotiation between various parties to pull off, so I'd say a
> > snowballs chance in hell for 22/05/2011. I also understand other
> > variant groups were totally jealous of our allocated space undercover
> > and so I wouldn't be at all surprised if organisers have had to fend
> > off other claimants this year for their turn at the same premium
> > space. We probably opened for the organisers an unwanted pandoras box
> > last year. It was splendid and unique but a one off accommodation. See
> > if you can prove me wrong ok, I'd be happy to be.
> >
> > Nearest alternative I suspect would be a group hug of beasts out in
> > the carpark.
> >
> > Given there has been no weekend away camping trip for Sydney region
> > beasts this year, maybe this carpark group hug is all that's going to
> > eventuate, so better be in it!
> >
> > Depending upon what's happening here nearer to the time, I'll decide
> > then, given mine is not a show pony.
> >
> > I guess the convoy from Kariong is still happening, but with all the
> > extended roadworks happening up there still, maybe a problem finding a
> > suitable meet up place?
> >
> > Cheers.
> >
> > Ken
> >
> >
> >
> > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > From: spbconsulting@...
> > Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 14:57:49 +1000
> > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] 2011 Nationals Sunday May 22, 2011
> >
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> > Just checking who is planning to come along to the NSW / Sydney
> > Nationals this year?
> >
> > Also are you putting your vehicle in and if so can we get a Syncro
> > corale going again like last year?
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Skot
> >
> >
> >
> Ken,
>
> I would agree - it needed Mark to organise this as he has contacts in
> the Nationals hierarchy which the rest of us do not so I see this wont
> happen.
>
> My boss wants to put the syncro in the show so she will be on her way
> down early. I will be venturing down once the Princesses wake up and I
> have fed and dressed them. That will mean around 11:00am before I even
> get there in my old 71 bus.
>
> Anyway, the car park is a possibility but not where all the action is.
>
> Also I agree about Kariong - it will look like that for another 10 years
> the way they are going.
>
> We will work something out. I was thinking about going into the area,
> saying I am entering the show then parking outside just next to the
> undercover area. I have done this before and you are still almost in the
> action and is much better than the outer car park.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Skot
>

Mel is keen to put our syncro in the show for one last go. (I have heard that before - "just one last time .... I wont bother you again") Anyway, I have zero interest in the competition and I just like the get together. Hence, Mel is taking the syncro down and I am dragging the princesses along in my old 71 bus.

Camping this time of year is not really pleasing as it tends to shrink testicles and make the kids complain even more - even though they really enjoyed the Bus Stop down in Narooma this year.

Anyway, timing wont allow me to do anything prior to the Nationals as I have to work - bugger!

Catch anyone who is interested there for a good chin wag.

Cheers,

Skot

unclekenz · 9 May 2011 09:30

Ben,

More to the point .... is there and if not, shouldn't there be a category for subasyncros?

Even more to the point ... shouldn't VW show judges know the difference between a WBX 2.1 donk (this is a VW show, right?) and a subie donk?

Even more and more to the point ... is there an equivalent Subaru show where one can enter a Subaru (donk) with a bloody peculiar body shape?

hahahaha

Ken

To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
From: bencroft96@yahoo.com
Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 07:24:42 +0000
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: 2011 Nationals Sunday May 22, 2011

Ken,Skot and Mark and others.
If Mark has the contacts and could find out where they plan to put us that would be great.It was a great day last year,but I dont see the point of going with my bus if we are going to be put out in the carpark or out in some back paddock.I will be there with or without the Syncro.
Has anyone seen the classes?Is there not a class for Syncros?I hope so
Skots been polishing for weeks!:)
BenC

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, Scott Pitcher <spbconsulting@...> wrote:
>
> On 9/05/2011 4:11 PM, Ken Garratt wrote:
> >
> >
> > Scott,
> >
> > That undercover arrangement last year took many months on and off of
> > negotiation between various parties to pull off, so I'd say a
> > snowballs chance in hell for 22/05/2011. I also understand other
> > variant groups were totally jealous of our allocated space undercover
> > and so I wouldn't be at all surprised if organisers have had to fend
> > off other claimants this year for their turn at the same premium
> > space. We probably opened for the organisers an unwanted pandoras box
> > last year. It was splendid and unique but a one off accommodation. See
> > if you can prove me wrong ok, I'd be happy to be.
> >
> > Nearest alternative I suspect would be a group hug of beasts out in
> > the carpark.
> >
> > Given there has been no weekend away camping trip for Sydney region
> > beasts this year, maybe this carpark group hug is all that's going to
> > eventuate, so better be in it!
> >
> > Depending upon what's happening here nearer to the time, I'll decide
> > then, given mine is not a show pony.
> >
> > I guess the convoy from Kariong is still happening, but with all the
> > extended roadworks happening up there still, maybe a problem finding a
> > suitable meet up place?
> >
> > Cheers.
> >
> > Ken
> >
> >
> >
> > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > From: spbconsulting@...
> > Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 14:57:49 +1000
> > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] 2011 Nationals Sunday May 22, 2011
> >
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> > Just checking who is planning to come along to the NSW / Sydney
> > Nationals this year?
> >
> > Also are you putting your vehicle in and if so can we get a Syncro
> > corale going again like last year?
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Skot
> >
> >
> >
> Ken,
>
> I would agree - it needed Mark to organise this as he has contacts in
> the Nationals hierarchy which the rest of us do not so I see this wont
> happen.
>
> My boss wants to put the syncro in the show so she will be on her way
> down early. I will be venturing down once the Princesses wake up and I
> have fed and dressed them. That will mean around 11:00am before I even
> get there in my old 71 bus.
>
> Anyway, the car park is a possibility but not where all the action is.
>
> Also I agree about Kariong - it will look like that for another 10 years
> the way they are going.
>
> We will work something out. I was thinking about going into the area,
> saying I am entering the show then parking outside just next to the
> undercover area. I have done this before and you are still almost in the
> action and is much better than the outer car park.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Skot
>

bencroft96 · 9 May 2011 09:51

Kenny,I think we should all enter in Dog of the day catergory.
Get out the back!you mongrels.

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, Ken Garratt <unclekenz@...> wrote:
>
>
> Ben,More to the point .... is there and if not, shouldn't there be a category for subasyncros?Even more to the point ... shouldn't VW show judges know the difference between a WBX 2.1 donk (this is a VW show, right?) and a subie donk?Even more and more to the point ... is there an equivalent Subaru show where one can enter a Subaru (donk) with a bloody peculiar body shape?hahahahaKen
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> From: bencroft96@...
> Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 07:24:42 +0000
> Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: 2011 Nationals Sunday May 22, 2011
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Ken,Skot and Mark and others.
>
> If Mark has the contacts and could find out where they plan to put us that would be great.It was a great day last year,but I dont see the point of going with my bus if we are going to be put out in the carpark or out in some back paddock.I will be there with or without the Syncro.
>
> Has anyone seen the classes?Is there not a class for Syncros?I hope so
>
> Skots been polishing for weeks!:)
>
> BenC
>
> --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, Scott Pitcher <spbconsulting@> wrote:
>
> >
>
> > On 9/05/2011 4:11 PM, Ken Garratt wrote:
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > > Scott,
>
> > >
>
> > > That undercover arrangement last year took many months on and off of
>
> > > negotiation between various parties to pull off, so I'd say a
>
> > > snowballs chance in hell for 22/05/2011. I also understand other
>
> > > variant groups were totally jealous of our allocated space undercover
>
> > > and so I wouldn't be at all surprised if organisers have had to fend
>
> > > off other claimants this year for their turn at the same premium
>
> > > space. We probably opened for the organisers an unwanted pandoras box
>
> > > last year. It was splendid and unique but a one off accommodation. See
>
> > > if you can prove me wrong ok, I'd be happy to be.
>
> > >
>
> > > Nearest alternative I suspect would be a group hug of beasts out in
>
> > > the carpark.
>
> > >
>
> > > Given there has been no weekend away camping trip for Sydney region
>
> > > beasts this year, maybe this carpark group hug is all that's going to
>
> > > eventuate, so better be in it!
>
> > >
>
> > > Depending upon what's happening here nearer to the time, I'll decide
>
> > > then, given mine is not a show pony.
>
> > >
>
> > > I guess the convoy from Kariong is still happening, but with all the
>
> > > extended roadworks happening up there still, maybe a problem finding a
>
> > > suitable meet up place?
>
> > >
>
> > > Cheers.
>
> > >
>
> > > Ken
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
>
> > > From: spbconsulting@
>
> > > Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 14:57:49 +1000
>
> > > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] 2011 Nationals Sunday May 22, 2011
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > > Hi All,
>
> > >
>
> > > Just checking who is planning to come along to the NSW / Sydney
>
> > > Nationals this year?
>
> > >
>
> > > Also are you putting your vehicle in and if so can we get a Syncro
>
> > > corale going again like last year?
>
> > >
>
> > > Cheers,
>
> > >
>
> > > Skot
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > Ken,
>
> >
>
> > I would agree - it needed Mark to organise this as he has contacts in
>
> > the Nationals hierarchy which the rest of us do not so I see this wont
>
> > happen.
>
> >
>
> > My boss wants to put the syncro in the show so she will be on her way
>
> > down early. I will be venturing down once the Princesses wake up and I
>
> > have fed and dressed them. That will mean around 11:00am before I even
>
> > get there in my old 71 bus.
>
> >
>
> > Anyway, the car park is a possibility but not where all the action is.
>
> >
>
> > Also I agree about Kariong - it will look like that for another 10 years
>
> > the way they are going.
>
> >
>
> > We will work something out. I was thinking about going into the area,
>
> > saying I am entering the show then parking outside just next to the
>
> > undercover area. I have done this before and you are still almost in the
>
> > action and is much better than the outer car park.
>
> >
>
> > Cheers,
>
> >
>
> > Skot
>
> >
>

unclekenz · 9 May 2011 09:52

Mark,

I seem to recall last year there was some hiccup with total cost of entry for each syncro plus occupant/s ... perhaps due to a misunderstanding of what was the per vehicle entry fee originally agreed to before the show with organisers compared to what was actually demanded on entry on the day. Those who really weren't interested in the competition and just wanted to be there together, baulked somewhat at the final entry fees.

So if that was the case, then this issue will repeat again this year, hence my suggestion that a carpark group hug of beasts as being the only practical alternative. The flasher vans can still pay the extra and get onto "hallowed turf" for the competition, the mere mortals of us can just kick up our heels outside!

Just make sure you bring enough coffee so we can all wet the doka!

Ken

To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
From: markkofahl@gmail.com
Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 19:03:42 +1000
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: 2011 Nationals Sunday May 22, 2011

Ben, Ken, Skot and all

I'd love to see the Syncro lineup again and Ken is certainly correct that it took quite some organisation last year.

Regrettably last year the president made some negative remarks to me, peppered with language that some individuals would find offensive, about the extraordinary inconvenience it presented to the organisers. I do not share this view. I would have preferred a 'Thanks for organising a display & lineup, and next year could we try doing it a little differently'

Needless to say, following those comments I have elected not to pursue a Syncro line-up again.

That all said, I would love to see all the Syncros together, and I would love to do some camping, however, I know Skot is not keen on this generally immediately before a show when trying to keep the vehicle neat and clean inside and out (agreed this impossible when camping).

A carpark assembly and then joint run into the show is the only thing I can think of, such that all vehicles arrive simultaneously into the undercroft.

Mark.

On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 5:24 PM, Ben <bencroft96@yahoo.com> wrote:

Ken,Skot and Mark and others.
If Mark has the contacts and could find out where they plan to put us that would be great.It was a great day last year,but I dont see the point of going with my bus if we are going to be put out in the carpark or out in some back paddock.I will be there with or without the Syncro.
Has anyone seen the classes?Is there not a class for Syncros?I hope so
Skots been polishing for weeks!:)
BenC

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, Scott Pitcher <spbconsulting@...> wrote:
>
> On 9/05/2011 4:11 PM, Ken Garratt wrote:
> >
> >
> > Scott,
> >
> > That undercover arrangement last year took many months on and off of
> > negotiation between various parties to pull off, so I'd say a
> > snowballs chance in hell for 22/05/2011. I also understand other
> > variant groups were totally jealous of our allocated space undercover
> > and so I wouldn't be at all surprised if organisers have had to fend
> > off other claimants this year for their turn at the same premium
> > space. We probably opened for the organisers an unwanted pandoras box
> > last year. It was splendid and unique but a one off accommodation. See
> > if you can prove me wrong ok, I'd be happy to be.
> >
> > Nearest alternative I suspect would be a group hug of beasts out in
> > the carpark.
> >
> > Given there has been no weekend away camping trip for Sydney region
> > beasts this year, maybe this carpark group hug is all that's going to
> > eventuate, so better be in it!
> >
> > Depending upon what's happening here nearer to the time, I'll decide
> > then, given mine is not a show pony.
> >
> > I guess the convoy from Kariong is still happening, but with all the
> > extended roadworks happening up there still, maybe a problem finding a
> > suitable meet up place?
> >
> > Cheers.
> >
> > Ken
> >
> >
> >
> > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > From: spbconsulting@...

> > Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 14:57:49 +1000
> > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] 2011 Nationals Sunday May 22, 2011
> >
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> > Just checking who is planning to come along to the NSW / Sydney
> > Nationals this year?
> >
> > Also are you putting your vehicle in and if so can we get a Syncro
> > corale going again like last year?
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Skot
> >
> >
> >
> Ken,
>
> I would agree - it needed Mark to organise this as he has contacts in
> the Nationals hierarchy which the rest of us do not so I see this wont
> happen.
>
> My boss wants to put the syncro in the show so she will be on her way
> down early. I will be venturing down once the Princesses wake up and I
> have fed and dressed them. That will mean around 11:00am before I even
> get there in my old 71 bus.
>
> Anyway, the car park is a possibility but not where all the action is.
>
> Also I agree about Kariong - it will look like that for another 10 years
> the way they are going.
>
> We will work something out. I was thinking about going into the area,
> saying I am entering the show then parking outside just next to the
> undercover area. I have done this before and you are still almost in the
> action and is much better than the outer car park.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Skot
>

bencroft96 · 9 May 2011 10:11

Skot,Ken,Mark and all.I just had a look at the list of catergories and there isnt a class specific for Syncros.There is a T3 all class,not even offroad watercooled.Skot this means your up against Phills Ute if he brings it.

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, Ken Garratt <unclekenz@...> wrote:
>
>
> Mark,
> I seem to recall last year there was some hiccup with total cost of entry for each syncro plus occupant/s ... perhaps due to a misunderstanding of what was the per vehicle entry fee originally agreed to before the show with organisers compared to what was actually demanded on entry on the day. Those who really weren't interested in the competition and just wanted to be there together, baulked somewhat at the final entry fees.
> So if that was the case, then this issue will repeat again this year, hence my suggestion that a carpark group hug of beasts as being the only practical alternative. The flasher vans can still pay the extra and get onto "hallowed turf" for the competition, the mere mortals of us can just kick up our heels outside!
> Just make sure you bring enough coffee so we can all wet the doka!
> Ken
>
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> From: markkofahl@...
> Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 19:03:42 +1000
> Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: 2011 Nationals Sunday May 22, 2011
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Ben, Ken, Skot and all
> I'd love to see the Syncro lineup again and Ken is certainly correct that it took quite some organisation last year.
> Regrettably last year the president made some negative remarks to me, peppered with language that some individuals would find offensive, about the extraordinary inconvenience it presented to the organisers. I do not share this view. I would have preferred a 'Thanks for organising a display & lineup, and next year could we try doing it a little differently'
>
>
> Needless to say, following those comments I have elected not to pursue a Syncro line-up again.
>
> That all said, I would love to see all the Syncros together, and I would love to do some camping, however, I know Skot is not keen on this generally immediately before a show when trying to keep the vehicle neat and clean inside and out (agreed this impossible when camping).
>
>
> A carpark assembly and then joint run into the show is the only thing I can think of, such that all vehicles arrive simultaneously into the undercroft.
> Mark.
>
>
> On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 5:24 PM, Ben <bencroft96@...> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Ken,Skot and Mark and others.
>
> If Mark has the contacts and could find out where they plan to put us that would be great.It was a great day last year,but I dont see the point of going with my bus if we are going to be put out in the carpark or out in some back paddock.I will be there with or without the Syncro.
>
>
>
> Has anyone seen the classes?Is there not a class for Syncros?I hope so
>
> Skots been polishing for weeks!:)
>
> BenC
>
> --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, Scott Pitcher <spbconsulting@> wrote:
>
> >
>
> > On 9/05/2011 4:11 PM, Ken Garratt wrote:
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > > Scott,
>
> > >
>
> > > That undercover arrangement last year took many months on and off of
>
> > > negotiation between various parties to pull off, so I'd say a
>
> > > snowballs chance in hell for 22/05/2011. I also understand other
>
> > > variant groups were totally jealous of our allocated space undercover
>
> > > and so I wouldn't be at all surprised if organisers have had to fend
>
> > > off other claimants this year for their turn at the same premium
>
> > > space. We probably opened for the organisers an unwanted pandoras box
>
> > > last year. It was splendid and unique but a one off accommodation. See
>
> > > if you can prove me wrong ok, I'd be happy to be.
>
> > >
>
> > > Nearest alternative I suspect would be a group hug of beasts out in
>
> > > the carpark.
>
> > >
>
> > > Given there has been no weekend away camping trip for Sydney region
>
> > > beasts this year, maybe this carpark group hug is all that's going to
>
> > > eventuate, so better be in it!
>
> > >
>
> > > Depending upon what's happening here nearer to the time, I'll decide
>
> > > then, given mine is not a show pony.
>
> > >
>
> > > I guess the convoy from Kariong is still happening, but with all the
>
> > > extended roadworks happening up there still, maybe a problem finding a
>
> > > suitable meet up place?
>
> > >
>
> > > Cheers.
>
> > >
>
> > > Ken
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
>
> > > From: spbconsulting@
>
> > > Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 14:57:49 +1000
>
> > > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] 2011 Nationals Sunday May 22, 2011
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > > Hi All,
>
> > >
>
> > > Just checking who is planning to come along to the NSW / Sydney
>
> > > Nationals this year?
>
> > >
>
> > > Also are you putting your vehicle in and if so can we get a Syncro
>
> > > corale going again like last year?
>
> > >
>
> > > Cheers,
>
> > >
>
> > > Skot
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > Ken,
>
> >
>
> > I would agree - it needed Mark to organise this as he has contacts in
>
> > the Nationals hierarchy which the rest of us do not so I see this wont
>
> > happen.
>
> >
>
> > My boss wants to put the syncro in the show so she will be on her way
>
> > down early. I will be venturing down once the Princesses wake up and I
>
> > have fed and dressed them. That will mean around 11:00am before I even
>
> > get there in my old 71 bus.
>
> >
>
> > Anyway, the car park is a possibility but not where all the action is.
>
> >
>
> > Also I agree about Kariong - it will look like that for another 10 years
>
> > the way they are going.
>
> >
>
> > We will work something out. I was thinking about going into the area,
>
> > saying I am entering the show then parking outside just next to the
>
> > undercover area. I have done this before and you are still almost in the
>
> > action and is much better than the outer car park.
>
> >
>
> > Cheers,
>
> >
>
> > Skot
>
> >
>

kombi4x427lc · 9 May 2011 11:52

On 9/05/2011 8:11 PM, Ben wrote:

Skot,Ken,Mark and all.I just had a look at the list of catergories and there isnt a class specific for Syncros.There is a T3 all class,not even offroad watercooled.Skot this means your up against Phills Ute if he brings it.

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, Ken Garratt <unclekenz@...> wrote:
>
>
> Mark,
> I seem to recall last year there was some hiccup with total cost of entry for each syncro plus occupant/s ... perhaps due to a misunderstanding of what was the per vehicle entry fee originally agreed to before the show with organisers compared to what was actually demanded on entry on the day. Those who really weren't interested in the competition and just wanted to be there together, baulked somewhat at the final entry fees.
> So if that was the case, then this issue will repeat again this year, hence my suggestion that a carpark group hug of beasts as being the only practical alternative. The flasher vans can still pay the extra and get onto "hallowed turf" for the competition, the mere mortals of us can just kick up our heels outside!
> Just make sure you bring enough coffee so we can all wet the doka!
> Ken
>
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> From: markkofahl@...
> Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 19:03:42 +1000
> Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: 2011 Nationals Sunday May 22, 2011
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Ben, Ken, Skot and all
> I'd love to see the Syncro lineup again and Ken is certainly correct that it took quite some organisation last year.
> Regrettably last year the president made some negative remarks to me, peppered with language that some individuals would find offensive, about the extraordinary inconvenience it presented to the organisers. I do not share this view. I would have preferred a 'Thanks for organising a display & lineup, and next year could we try doing it a little differently'
>
>
> Needless to say, following those comments I have elected not to pursue a Syncro line-up again.
>
> That all said, I would love to see all the Syncros together, and I would love to do some camping, however, I know Skot is not keen on this generally immediately before a show when trying to keep the vehicle neat and clean inside and out (agreed this impossible when camping).
>
>
> A carpark assembly and then joint run into the show is the only thing I can think of, such that all vehicles arrive simultaneously into the undercroft.
> Mark.
>
>
> On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 5:24 PM, Ben <bencroft96@...> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Ken,Skot and Mark and others.
>
> If Mark has the contacts and could find out where they plan to put us that would be great.It was a great day last year,but I dont see the point of going with my bus if we are going to be put out in the carpark or out in some back paddock.I will be there with or without the Syncro.
>
>
>
> Has anyone seen the classes?Is there not a class for Syncros?I hope so
>
> Skots been polishing for weeks!:)
>
> BenC
>
> --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, Scott Pitcher <spbconsulting@> wrote:
>
> >
>
> > On 9/05/2011 4:11 PM, Ken Garratt wrote:
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > > Scott,
>
> > >
>
> > > That undercover arrangement last year took many months on and off of
>
> > > negotiation between various parties to pull off, so I'd say a
>
> > > snowballs chance in hell for 22/05/2011. I also understand other
>
> > > variant groups were totally jealous of our allocated space undercover
>
> > > and so I wouldn't be at all surprised if organisers have had to fend
>
> > > off other claimants this year for their turn at the same premium
>
> > > space. We probably opened for the organisers an unwanted pandoras box
>
> > > last year. It was splendid and unique but a one off accommodation. See
>
> > > if you can prove me wrong ok, I'd be happy to be.
>
> > >
>
> > > Nearest alternative I suspect would be a group hug of beasts out in
>
> > > the carpark.
>
> > >
>
> > > Given there has been no weekend away camping trip for Sydney region
>
> > > beasts this year, maybe this carpark group hug is all that's going to
>
> > > eventuate, so better be in it!
>
> > >
>
> > > Depending upon what's happening here nearer to the time, I'll decide
>
> > > then, given mine is not a show pony.
>
> > >
>
> > > I guess the convoy from Kariong is still happening, but with all the
>
> > > extended roadworks happening up there still, maybe a problem finding a
>
> > > suitable meet up place?
>
> > >
>
> > > Cheers.
>
> > >
>
> > > Ken
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
>
> > > From: spbconsulting@
>
> > > Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 14:57:49 +1000
>
> > > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] 2011 Nationals Sunday May 22, 2011
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > > Hi All,
>
> > >
>
> > > Just checking who is planning to come along to the NSW / Sydney
>
> > > Nationals this year?
>
> > >
>
> > > Also are you putting your vehicle in and if so can we get a Syncro
>
> > > corale going again like last year?
>
> > >
>
> > > Cheers,
>
> > >
>
> > > Skot
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > Ken,
>
> >
>
> > I would agree - it needed Mark to organise this as he has contacts in
>
> > the Nationals hierarchy which the rest of us do not so I see this wont
>
> > happen.
>
> >
>
> > My boss wants to put the syncro in the show so she will be on her way
>
> > down early. I will be venturing down once the Princesses wake up and I
>
> > have fed and dressed them. That will mean around 11:00am before I even
>
> > get there in my old 71 bus.
>
> >
>
> > Anyway, the car park is a possibility but not where all the action is.
>
> >
>
> > Also I agree about Kariong - it will look like that for another 10 years
>
> > the way they are going.
>
> >
>
> > We will work something out. I was thinking about going into the area,
>
> > saying I am entering the show then parking outside just next to the
>
> > undercover area. I have done this before and you are still almost in the
>
> > action and is much better than the outer car park.
>
> >
>
> > Cheers,
>
> >
>
> > Skot
>
> >
>

I wondered if Phill would be bringing along his new toy DOKA. No doubt it will be shining as much as Phills syncro.

markkofahl · 9 May 2011 13:14

I haven't checked yet this year - can this be confirmed?? No Syncro / water-cooled Offroad (Ie Syncro/Tiguan/touareg/Golf Country) category?

Maybe we need to run our own Carpark Cup?

- Cleanest Syncro

- Dirtiest Syncro

- Most Accessorised Syncro

- Least Accessorised Syncro

Think up some more categories and we should get a good turnout and everyone go home smiling :-)

Mark

Sent from my iPhone

On 09/05/2011, at 8:11 PM, Ben <bencroft96@yahoo.com> wrote:

Skot,Ken,Mark and all.I just had a look at the list of catergories and there isnt a class specific for Syncros.There is a T3 all class,not even offroad watercooled.Skot this means your up against Phills Ute if he brings it.

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, Ken Garratt <unclekenz@...> wrote:
>
>
> Mark,
> I seem to recall last year there was some hiccup with total cost of entry for each syncro plus occupant/s ... perhaps due to a misunderstanding of what was the per vehicle entry fee originally agreed to before the show with organisers compared to what was actually demanded on entry on the day. Those who really weren't interested in the competition and just wanted to be there together, baulked somewhat at the final entry fees.
> So if that was the case, then this issue will repeat again this year, hence my suggestion that a carpark group hug of beasts as being the only practical alternative. The flasher vans can still pay the extra and get onto "hallowed turf" for the competition, the mere mortals of us can just kick up our heels outside!
> Just make sure you bring enough coffee so we can all wet the doka!
> Ken
>
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> From: markkofahl@...
> Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 19:03:42 +1000
> Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: 2011 Nationals Sunday May 22, 2011
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Ben, Ken, Skot and all
> I'd love to see the Syncro lineup again and Ken is certainly correct that it took quite some organisation last year.
> Regrettably last year the president made some negative remarks to me, peppered with language that some individuals would find offensive, about the extraordinary inconvenience it presented to the organisers. I do not share this view. I would have preferred a 'Thanks for organising a display & lineup, and next year could we try doing it a little differently'
>
>
> Needless to say, following those comments I have elected not to pursue a Syncro line-up again.
>
> That all said, I would love to see all the Syncros together, and I would love to do some camping, however, I know Skot is not keen on this generally immediately before a show when trying to keep the vehicle neat and clean inside and out (agreed this impossible when camping).
>
>
> A carpark assembly and then joint run into the show is the only thing I can think of, such that all vehicles arrive simultaneously into the undercroft.
> Mark.
>
>
> On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 5:24 PM, Ben <bencroft96@...> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Ken,Skot and Mark and others.
>
> If Mark has the contacts and could find out where they plan to put us that would be great.It was a great day last year,but I dont see the point of going with my bus if we are going to be put out in the carpark or out in some back paddock.I will be there with or without the Syncro.
>
>
>
> Has anyone seen the classes?Is there not a class for Syncros?I hope so
>
> Skots been polishing for weeks!:)
>
> BenC
>
> --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, Scott Pitcher <spbconsulting@> wrote:
>
> >
>
> > On 9/05/2011 4:11 PM, Ken Garratt wrote:
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > > Scott,
>
> > >
>
> > > That undercover arrangement last year took many months on and off of
>
> > > negotiation between various parties to pull off, so I'd say a
>
> > > snowballs chance in hell for 22/05/2011. I also understand other
>
> > > variant groups were totally jealous of our allocated space undercover
>
> > > and so I wouldn't be at all surprised if organisers have had to fend
>
> > > off other claimants this year for their turn at the same premium
>
> > > space. We probably opened for the organisers an unwanted pandoras box
>
> > > last year. It was splendid and unique but a one off accommodation. See
>
> > > if you can prove me wrong ok, I'd be happy to be.
>
> > >
>
> > > Nearest alternative I suspect would be a group hug of beasts out in
>
> > > the carpark.
>
> > >
>
> > > Given there has been no weekend away camping trip for Sydney region
>
> > > beasts this year, maybe this carpark group hug is all that's going to
>
> > > eventuate, so better be in it!
>
> > >
>
> > > Depending upon what's happening here nearer to the time, I'll decide
>
> > > then, given mine is not a show pony.
>
> > >
>
> > > I guess the convoy from Kariong is still happening, but with all the
>
> > > extended roadworks happening up there still, maybe a problem finding a
>
> > > suitable meet up place?
>
> > >
>
> > > Cheers.
>
> > >
>
> > > Ken
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
>
> > > From: spbconsulting@
>
> > > Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 14:57:49 +1000
>
> > > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] 2011 Nationals Sunday May 22, 2011
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > > Hi All,
>
> > >
>
> > > Just checking who is planning to come along to the NSW / Sydney
>
> > > Nationals this year?
>
> > >
>
> > > Also are you putting your vehicle in and if so can we get a Syncro
>
> > > corale going again like last year?
>
> > >
>
> > > Cheers,
>
> > >
>
> > > Skot
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > Ken,
>
> >
>
> > I would agree - it needed Mark to organise this as he has contacts in
>
> > the Nationals hierarchy which the rest of us do not so I see this wont
>
> > happen.
>
> >
>
> > My boss wants to put the syncro in the show so she will be on her way
>
> > down early. I will be venturing down once the Princesses wake up and I
>
> > have fed and dressed them. That will mean around 11:00am before I even
>
> > get there in my old 71 bus.
>
> >
>
> > Anyway, the car park is a possibility but not where all the action is.
>
> >
>
> > Also I agree about Kariong - it will look like that for another 10 years
>
> > the way they are going.
>
> >
>
> > We will work something out. I was thinking about going into the area,
>
> > saying I am entering the show then parking outside just next to the
>
> > undercover area. I have done this before and you are still almost in the
>
> > action and is much better than the outer car park.
>
> >
>
> > Cheers,
>
> >
>
> > Skot
>
> >
>

kiehn38 · 9 May 2011 23:22

Hi Mark, All,

The attitude of those decision makers I don't like very much and that's why the Port Mac Syncros will spend that weekend right on the beach at South West Rocks.

For the future I could envisage our Syncro Nationals somewhere where we can stay/camp (as for Kamper) overnight, maybe somewhere South of Sydney so as to include our Vic

contingent and every 2nd year together with Valla as for our Banana Benders friends to attend.

Just an idea........... Hart

To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
From: markkofahl@gmail.com
Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 23:14:54 +1000
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: 2011 Nationals Sunday May 22, 2011

I haven't checked yet this year - can this be confirmed?? No Syncro / water-cooled Offroad (Ie Syncro/Tiguan/touareg/Golf Country) category?

Maybe we need to run our own Carpark Cup?

- Cleanest Syncro

- Dirtiest Syncro

- Most Accessorised Syncro

- Least Accessorised Syncro

Think up some more categories and we should get a good turnout and everyone go home smiling :-)

Mark

Sent from my iPhone

On 09/05/2011, at 8:11 PM, Ben <bencroft96@yahoo.com> wrote:

Skot,Ken,Mark and all.I just had a look at the list of catergories and there isnt a class specific for Syncros.There is a T3 all class,not even offroad watercooled.Skot this means your up against Phills Ute if he brings it.

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, Ken Garratt <unclekenz@...> wrote:
>
>
> Mark,
> I seem to recall last year there was some hiccup with total cost of entry for each syncro plus occupant/s ... perhaps due to a misunderstanding of what was the per vehicle entry fee originally agreed to before the show with organisers compared to what was actually demanded on entry on the day. Those who really weren't interested in the competition and just wanted to be there together, baulked somewhat at the final entry fees.
> So if that was the case, then this issue will repeat again this year, hence my suggestion that a carpark group hug of beasts as being the only practical alternative. The flasher vans can still pay the extra and get onto "hallowed turf" for the competition, the mere mortals of us can just kick up our heels outside!
> Just make sure you bring enough coffee so we can all wet the doka!
> Ken
>
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> From: markkofahl@...
> Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 19:03:42 +1000
> Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: 2011 Nationals Sunday May 22, 2011
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Ben, Ken, Skot and all
> I'd love to see the Syncro lineup again and Ken is certainly correct that it took quite some organisation last year.
> Regrettably last year the president made some negative remarks to me, peppered with language that some individuals would find offensive, about the extraordinary inconvenience it presented to the organisers. I do not share this view. I would have preferred a 'Thanks for organising a display & lineup, and next year could we try doing it a little differently'
>
>
> Needless to say, following those comments I have elected not to pursue a Syncro line-up again.
>
> That all said, I would love to see all the Syncros together, and I would love to do some camping, however, I know Skot is not keen on this generally immediately before a show when trying to keep the vehicle neat and clean inside and out (agreed this impossible when camping).
>
>
> A carpark assembly and then joint run into the show is the only thing I can think of, such that all vehicles arrive simultaneously into the undercroft.
> Mark.
>
>
> On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 5:24 PM, Ben <bencroft96@...> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Ken,Skot and Mark and others.
>
> If Mark has the contacts and could find out where they plan to put us that would be great.It was a great day last year,but I dont see the point of going with my bus if we are going to be put out in the carpark or out in some back paddock.I will be there with or without the Syncro.
>
>
>
> Has anyone seen the classes?Is there not a class for Syncros?I hope so
>
> Skots been polishing for weeks!:)
>
> BenC
>
> --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, Scott Pitcher <spbconsulting@> wrote:
>
> >
>
> > On 9/05/2011 4:11 PM, Ken Garratt wrote:
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > > Scott,
>
> > >
>
> > > That undercover arrangement last year took many months on and off of
>
> > > negotiation between various parties to pull off, so I'd say a
>
> > > snowballs chance in hell for 22/05/2011. I also understand other
>
> > > variant groups were totally jealous of our allocated space undercover
>
> > > and so I wouldn't be at all surprised if organisers have had to fend
>
> > > off other claimants this year for their turn at the same premium
>
> > > space. We probably opened for the organisers an unwanted pandoras box
>
> > > last year. It was splendid and unique but a one off accommodation. See
>
> > > if you can prove me wrong ok, I'd be happy to be.
>
> > >
>
> > > Nearest alternative I suspect would be a group hug of beasts out in
>
> > > the carpark.
>
> > >
>
> > > Given there has been no weekend away camping trip for Sydney region
>
> > > beasts this year, maybe this carpark group hug is all that's going to
>
> > > eventuate, so better be in it!
>
> > >
>
> > > Depending upon what's happening here nearer to the time, I'll decide
>
> > > then, given mine is not a show pony.
>
> > >
>
> > > I guess the convoy from Kariong is still happening, but with all the
>
> > > extended roadworks happening up there still, maybe a problem finding a
>
> > > suitable meet up place?
>
> > >
>
> > > Cheers.
>
> > >
>
> > > Ken
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
>
> > > From: spbconsulting@
>
> > > Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 14:57:49 +1000
>
> > > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] 2011 Nationals Sunday May 22, 2011
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > > Hi All,
>
> > >
>
> > > Just checking who is planning to come along to the NSW / Sydney
>
> > > Nationals this year?
>
> > >
>
> > > Also are you putting your vehicle in and if so can we get a Syncro
>
> > > corale going again like last year?
>
> > >
>
> > > Cheers,
>
> > >
>
> > > Skot
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > Ken,
>
> >
>
> > I would agree - it needed Mark to organise this as he has contacts in
>
> > the Nationals hierarchy which the rest of us do not so I see this wont
>
> > happen.
>
> >
>
> > My boss wants to put the syncro in the show so she will be on her way
>
> > down early. I will be venturing down once the Princesses wake up and I
>
> > have fed and dressed them. That will mean around 11:00am before I even
>
> > get there in my old 71 bus.
>
> >
>
> > Anyway, the car park is a possibility but not where all the action is.
>
> >
>
> > Also I agree about Kariong - it will look like that for another 10 years
>
> > the way they are going.
>
> >
>
> > We will work something out. I was thinking about going into the area,
>
> > saying I am entering the show then parking outside just next to the
>
> > undercover area. I have done this before and you are still almost in the
>
> > action and is much better than the outer car park.
>
> >
>
> > Cheers,
>
> >
>
> > Skot
>
> >
>

kombi4x427lc · 9 May 2011 23:46

On 10/05/2011 9:22 AM, Hartmut Kiehn wrote:

Hi Mark, All,

The attitude of those decision makers I don't like very much and that's why the Port Mac Syncros will spend that weekend right on the beach at South West Rocks.

For the future I could envisage our Syncro Nationals somewhere where we can stay/camp (as for Kamper) overnight, maybe somewhere South of Sydney so as to include our Vic

contingent and every 2nd year together with Valla as for our Banana Benders friends to attend.

Just an idea........... Hart

To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
From: markkofahl@gmail.com
Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 23:14:54 +1000
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: 2011 Nationals Sunday May 22, 2011

I haven't checked yet this year - can this be confirmed?? No Syncro / water-cooled Offroad (Ie Syncro/Tiguan/touareg/Golf Country) category?

Maybe we need to run our own Carpark Cup?

- Cleanest Syncro

- Dirtiest Syncro

- Most Accessorised Syncro

- Least Accessorised Syncro

Think up some more categories and we should get a good turnout and everyone go home smiling :-)

Mark

Sent from my iPhone

On 09/05/2011, at 8:11 PM, Ben <bencroft96@yahoo.com> wrote:

Skot,Ken,Mark and all.I just had a look at the list of catergories and there isnt a class specific for Syncros.There is a T3 all class,not even offroad watercooled.Skot this means your up against Phills Ute if he brings it.

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, Ken Garratt <unclekenz@...> wrote:
>
>
> Mark,
> I seem to recall last year there was some hiccup with total cost of entry for each syncro plus occupant/s ... perhaps due to a misunderstanding of what was the per vehicle entry fee originally agreed to before the show with organisers compared to what was actually demanded on entry on the day. Those who really weren't interested in the competition and just wanted to be there together, baulked somewhat at the final entry fees.
> So if that was the case, then this issue will repeat again this year, hence my suggestion that a carpark group hug of beasts as being the only practical alternative. The flasher vans can still pay the extra and get onto "hallowed turf" for the competition, the mere mortals of us can just kick up our heels outside!
> Just make sure you bring enough coffee so we can all wet the doka!
> Ken
>
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> From: markkofahl@...
> Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 19:03:42 +1000
> Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: 2011 Nationals Sunday May 22, 2011
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Ben, Ken, Skot and all
> I'd love to see the Syncro lineup again and Ken is certainly correct that it took quite some organisation last year.
> Regrettably last year the president made some negative remarks to me, peppered with language that some individuals would find offensive, about the extraordinary inconvenience it presented to the organisers. I do not share this view. I would have preferred a 'Thanks for organising a display & lineup, and next year could we try doing it a little differently'
>
>
> Needless to say, following those comments I have elected not to pursue a Syncro line-up again.
>
> That all said, I would love to see all the Syncros together, and I would love to do some camping, however, I know Skot is not keen on this generally immediately before a show when trying to keep the vehicle neat and clean inside and out (agreed this impossible when camping).
>
>
> A carpark assembly and then joint run into the show is the only thing I can think of, such that all vehicles arrive simultaneously into the undercroft.
> Mark.
>
>
> On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 5:24 PM, Ben <bencroft96@...> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Ken,Skot and Mark and others.
>
> If Mark has the contacts and could find out where they plan to put us that would be great.It was a great day last year,but I dont see the point of going with my bus if we are going to be put out in the carpark or out in some back paddock.I will be there with or without the Syncro.
>
>
>
> Has anyone seen the classes?Is there not a class for Syncros?I hope so
>
> Skots been polishing for weeks!:)
>
> BenC
>
> --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, Scott Pitcher <spbconsulting@> wrote:
>
> >
>
> > On 9/05/2011 4:11 PM, Ken Garratt wrote:
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > > Scott,
>
> > >
>
> > > That undercover arrangement last year took many months on and off of
>
> > > negotiation between various parties to pull off, so I'd say a
>
> > > snowballs chance in hell for 22/05/2011. I also understand other
>
> > > variant groups were totally jealous of our allocated space undercover
>
> > > and so I wouldn't be at all surprised if organisers have had to fend
>
> > > off other claimants this year for their turn at the same premium
>
> > > space. We probably opened for the organisers an unwanted pandoras box
>
> > > last year. It was splendid and unique but a one off accommodation. See
>
> > > if you can prove me wrong ok, I'd be happy to be.
>
> > >
>
> > > Nearest alternative I suspect would be a group hug of beasts out in
>
> > > the carpark.
>
> > >
>
> > > Given there has been no weekend away camping trip for Sydney region
>
> > > beasts this year, maybe this carpark group hug is all that's going to
>
> > > eventuate, so better be in it!
>
> > >
>
> > > Depending upon what's happening here nearer to the time, I'll decide
>
> > > then, given mine is not a show pony.
>
> > >
>
> > > I guess the convoy from Kariong is still happening, but with all the
>
> > > extended roadworks happening up there still, maybe a problem finding a
>
> > > suitable meet up place?
>
> > >
>
> > > Cheers.
>
> > >
>
> > > Ken
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
>
> > > From: spbconsulting@
>
> > > Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 14:57:49 +1000
>
> > > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] 2011 Nationals Sunday May 22, 2011
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > > Hi All,
>
> > >
>
> > > Just checking who is planning to come along to the NSW / Sydney
>
> > > Nationals this year?
>
> > >
>
> > > Also are you putting your vehicle in and if so can we get a Syncro
>
> > > corale going again like last year?
>
> > >
>
> > > Cheers,
>
> > >
>
> > > Skot
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > Ken,
>
> >
>
> > I would agree - it needed Mark to organise this as he has contacts in
>
> > the Nationals hierarchy which the rest of us do not so I see this wont
>
> > happen.
>
> >
>
> > My boss wants to put the syncro in the show so she will be on her way
>
> > down early. I will be venturing down once the Princesses wake up and I
>
> > have fed and dressed them. That will mean around 11:00am before I even
>
> > get there in my old 71 bus.
>
> >
>
> > Anyway, the car park is a possibility but not where all the action is.
>
> >
>
> > Also I agree about Kariong - it will look like that for another 10 years
>
> > the way they are going.
>
> >
>
> > We will work something out. I was thinking about going into the area,
>
> > saying I am entering the show then parking outside just next to the
>
> > undercover area. I have done this before and you are still almost in the
>
> > action and is much better than the outer car park.
>
> >
>
> > Cheers,
>
> >
>
> > Skot
>
> >
>

Sounds like a great idea.

Although that is kind of what the syncro tour is every couple of years.

unclekenz · 9 May 2011 23:55

All,

Couldn't agree more with Hartmuts sentiments.

If all we predominantly stoop to for syncro meets is attend general VW static shows, mostly for oldy beetles and kombis, stand around for 4 hours and then go home and repeat that year in and year out ad nauseum up and down the coast, maybe we all should have bought beetles and/or kombis. Where's the logic and sense of cameraderie/adventure in continuing that scenario?! Unleash the capabilities of our syncros ... leave those static displays behind please and realise the dream of ownership of our unique beasts.

My 2 cents worth.

Ken

To: syncro_t3_australia@yahoogroups.com
From: hartis@live.com.au
Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 09:52:47 +1030
Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: 2011 Nationals Sunday May 22, 2011

Hi Mark, All,

The attitude of those decision makers I don't like very much and that's why the Port Mac Syncros will spend that weekend right on the beach at South West Rocks.

For the future I could envisage our Syncro Nationals somewhere where we can stay/camp (as for Kamper) overnight, maybe somewhere South of Sydney so as to include our Vic

contingent and every 2nd year together with Valla as for our Banana Benders friends to attend.

Just an idea........... Hart

To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
From: markkofahl@gmail.com
Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 23:14:54 +1000
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: 2011 Nationals Sunday May 22, 2011

I haven't checked yet this year - can this be confirmed?? No Syncro / water-cooled Offroad (Ie Syncro/Tiguan/touareg/Golf Country) category?

Maybe we need to run our own Carpark Cup?

- Cleanest Syncro

- Dirtiest Syncro

- Most Accessorised Syncro

- Least Accessorised Syncro

Think up some more categories and we should get a good turnout and everyone go home smiling :-)

Mark

Sent from my iPhone

On 09/05/2011, at 8:11 PM, Ben <bencroft96@yahoo.com> wrote:

Skot,Ken,Mark and all.I just had a look at the list of catergories and there isnt a class specific for Syncros.There is a T3 all class,not even offroad watercooled.Skot this means your up against Phills Ute if he brings it.

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, Ken Garratt <unclekenz@...> wrote:
>
>
> Mark,
> I seem to recall last year there was some hiccup with total cost of entry for each syncro plus occupant/s ... perhaps due to a misunderstanding of what was the per vehicle entry fee originally agreed to before the show with organisers compared to what was actually demanded on entry on the day. Those who really weren't interested in the competition and just wanted to be there together, baulked somewhat at the final entry fees.
> So if that was the case, then this issue will repeat again this year, hence my suggestion that a carpark group hug of beasts as being the only practical alternative. The flasher vans can still pay the extra and get onto "hallowed turf" for the competition, the mere mortals of us can just kick up our heels outside!
> Just make sure you bring enough coffee so we can all wet the doka!
> Ken
>
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> From: markkofahl@...
> Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 19:03:42 +1000
> Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: 2011 Nationals Sunday May 22, 2011
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Ben, Ken, Skot and all
> I'd love to see the Syncro lineup again and Ken is certainly correct that it took quite some organisation last year.
> Regrettably last year the president made some negative remarks to me, peppered with language that some individuals would find offensive, about the extraordinary inconvenience it presented to the organisers. I do not share this view. I would have preferred a 'Thanks for organising a display & lineup, and next year could we try doing it a little differently'
>
>
> Needless to say, following those comments I have elected not to pursue a Syncro line-up again.
>
> That all said, I would love to see all the Syncros together, and I would love to do some camping, however, I know Skot is not keen on this generally immediately before a show when trying to keep the vehicle neat and clean inside and out (agreed this impossible when camping).
>
>
> A carpark assembly and then joint run into the show is the only thing I can think of, such that all vehicles arrive simultaneously into the undercroft.
> Mark.
>
>
> On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 5:24 PM, Ben <bencroft96@...> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Ken,Skot and Mark and others.
>
> If Mark has the contacts and could find out where they plan to put us that would be great.It was a great day last year,but I dont see the point of going with my bus if we are going to be put out in the carpark or out in some back paddock.I will be there with or without the Syncro.
>
>
>
> Has anyone seen the classes?Is there not a class for Syncros?I hope so
>
> Skots been polishing for weeks!:)
>
> BenC
>
> --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, Scott Pitcher <spbconsulting@> wrote:
>
> >
>
> > On 9/05/2011 4:11 PM, Ken Garratt wrote:
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > > Scott,
>
> > >
>
> > > That undercover arrangement last year took many months on and off of
>
> > > negotiation between various parties to pull off, so I'd say a
>
> > > snowballs chance in hell for 22/05/2011. I also understand other
>
> > > variant groups were totally jealous of our allocated space undercover
>
> > > and so I wouldn't be at all surprised if organisers have had to fend
>
> > > off other claimants this year for their turn at the same premium
>
> > > space. We probably opened for the organisers an unwanted pandoras box
>
> > > last year. It was splendid and unique but a one off accommodation. See
>
> > > if you can prove me wrong ok, I'd be happy to be.
>
> > >
>
> > > Nearest alternative I suspect would be a group hug of beasts out in
>
> > > the carpark.
>
> > >
>
> > > Given there has been no weekend away camping trip for Sydney region
>
> > > beasts this year, maybe this carpark group hug is all that's going to
>
> > > eventuate, so better be in it!
>
> > >
>
> > > Depending upon what's happening here nearer to the time, I'll decide
>
> > > then, given mine is not a show pony.
>
> > >
>
> > > I guess the convoy from Kariong is still happening, but with all the
>
> > > extended roadworks happening up there still, maybe a problem finding a
>
> > > suitable meet up place?
>
> > >
>
> > > Cheers.
>
> > >
>
> > > Ken
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
>
> > > From: spbconsulting@
>
> > > Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 14:57:49 +1000
>
> > > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] 2011 Nationals Sunday May 22, 2011
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > > Hi All,
>
> > >
>
> > > Just checking who is planning to come along to the NSW / Sydney
>
> > > Nationals this year?
>
> > >
>
> > > Also are you putting your vehicle in and if so can we get a Syncro
>
> > > corale going again like last year?
>
> > >
>
> > > Cheers,
>
> > >
>
> > > Skot
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > Ken,
>
> >
>
> > I would agree - it needed Mark to organise this as he has contacts in
>
> > the Nationals hierarchy which the rest of us do not so I see this wont
>
> > happen.
>
> >
>
> > My boss wants to put the syncro in the show so she will be on her way
>
> > down early. I will be venturing down once the Princesses wake up and I
>
> > have fed and dressed them. That will mean around 11:00am before I even
>
> > get there in my old 71 bus.
>
> >
>
> > Anyway, the car park is a possibility but not where all the action is.
>
> >
>
> > Also I agree about Kariong - it will look like that for another 10 years
>
> > the way they are going.
>
> >
>
> > We will work something out. I was thinking about going into the area,
>
> > saying I am entering the show then parking outside just next to the
>
> > undercover area. I have done this before and you are still almost in the
>
> > action and is much better than the outer car park.
>
> >
>
> > Cheers,
>
> >
>
> > Skot
>
> >
>

robert.dale45 · 10 May 2011 00:26

hear hear.

bob dale

----- Original Message -----

From: Ken Garratt

To: Syncro _T3_Australia forum

Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2011 9:55 AM

Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: 2011 Nationals Sunday May 22, 2011

All,
Couldn't agree more with Hartmuts sentiments.

If all we predominantly stoop to for syncro meets is attend general VW static shows, mostly for oldy beetles and kombis, stand around for 4 hours and then go home and repeat that year in and year out ad nauseum up and down the coast, maybe we all should have bought beetles and/or kombis. Where's the logic and sense of cameraderie/adventure in continuing that scenario?! Unleash the capabilities of our syncros ... leave those static displays behind please and realise the dream of ownership of our unique beasts.

My 2 cents worth.

Ken

To: syncro_t3_australia@yahoogroups.com
From: hartis@live.com.au
Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 09:52:47 +1030
Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: 2011 Nationals Sunday May 22, 2011

Hi Mark, All,

The attitude of those decision makers I don't like very much and that's why the Port Mac Syncros will spend that weekend right on the beach at South West Rocks.

For the future I could envisage our Syncro Nationals somewhere where we can stay/camp (as for Kamper) overnight, maybe somewhere South of Sydney so as to include our Vic

contingent and every 2nd year together with Valla as for our Banana Benders friends to attend.

Just an idea........... Hart

To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
From: markkofahl@gmail.com
Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 23:14:54 +1000
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: 2011 Nationals Sunday May 22, 2011

I haven't checked yet this year - can this be confirmed?? No Syncro / water-cooled Offroad (Ie Syncro/Tiguan/touareg/Golf Country) category?

Maybe we need to run our own Carpark Cup?

- Cleanest Syncro

- Dirtiest Syncro

- Most Accessorised Syncro

- Least Accessorised Syncro

Think up some more categories and we should get a good turnout and everyone go home smiling :-)

Mark

Sent from my iPhone

On 09/05/2011, at 8:11 PM, Ben <bencroft96@yahoo.com> wrote:

Skot,Ken,Mark and all.I just had a look at the list of catergories and there isnt a class specific for Syncros.There is a T3 all class,not even offroad watercooled.Skot this means your up against Phills Ute if he brings it.

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, Ken Garratt <unclekenz@...> wrote:
>
>
> Mark,
> I seem to recall last year there was some hiccup with total cost of entry for each syncro plus occupant/s ... perhaps due to a misunderstanding of what was the per vehicle entry fee originally agreed to before the show with organisers compared to what was actually demanded on entry on the day. Those who really weren't interested in the competition and just wanted to be there together, baulked somewhat at the final entry fees.
> So if that was the case, then this issue will repeat again this year, hence my suggestion that a carpark group hug of beasts as being the only practical alternative. The flasher vans can still pay the extra and get onto "hallowed turf" for the competition, the mere mortals of us can just kick up our heels outside!
> Just make sure you bring enough coffee so we can all wet the doka!
> Ken
>
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> From: markkofahl@...
> Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 19:03:42 +1000
> Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: 2011 Nationals Sunday May 22, 2011
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Ben, Ken, Skot and all
> I'd love to see the Syncro lineup again and Ken is certainly correct that it took quite some organisation last year.
> Regrettably last year the president made some negative remarks to me, peppered with language that some individuals would find offensive, about the extraordinary inconvenience it presented to the organisers. I do not share this view. I would have preferred a 'Thanks for organising a display & lineup, and next year could we try doing it a little differently'
>
>
> Needless to say, following those comments I have elected not to pursue a Syncro line-up again.
>
> That all said, I would love to see all the Syncros together, and I would love to do some camping, however, I know Skot is not keen on this generally immediately before a show when trying to keep the vehicle neat and clean inside and out (agreed this impossible when camping).
>
>
> A carpark assembly and then joint run into the show is the only thing I can think of, such that all vehicles arrive simultaneously into the undercroft.
> Mark.
>
>
> On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 5:24 PM, Ben <bencroft96@...> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Ken,Skot and Mark and others.
>
> If Mark has the contacts and could find out where they plan to put us that would be great.It was a great day last year,but I dont see the point of going with my bus if we are going to be put out in the carpark or out in some back paddock.I will be there with or without the Syncro.
>
>
>
> Has anyone seen the classes?Is there not a class for Syncros?I hope so
>
> Skots been polishing for weeks!:)
>
> BenC
>
> --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, Scott Pitcher <spbconsulting@> wrote:
>
> >
>
> > On 9/05/2011 4:11 PM, Ken Garratt wrote:
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > > Scott,
>
> > >
>
> > > That undercover arrangement last year took many months on and off of
>
> > > negotiation between various parties to pull off, so I'd say a
>
> > > snowballs chance in hell for 22/05/2011. I also understand other
>
> > > variant groups were totally jealous of our allocated space undercover
>
> > > and so I wouldn't be at all surprised if organisers have had to fend
>
> > > off other claimants this year for their turn at the same premium
>
> > > space. We probably opened for the organisers an unwanted pandoras box
>
> > > last year. It was splendid and unique but a one off accommodation. See
>
> > > if you can prove me wrong ok, I'd be happy to be.
>
> > >
>
> > > Nearest alternative I suspect would be a group hug of beasts out in
>
> > > the carpark.
>
> > >
>
> > > Given there has been no weekend away camping trip for Sydney region
>
> > > beasts this year, maybe this carpark group hug is all that's going to
>
> > > eventuate, so better be in it!
>
> > >
>
> > > Depending upon what's happening here nearer to the time, I'll decide
>
> > > then, given mine is not a show pony.
>
> > >
>
> > > I guess the convoy from Kariong is still happening, but with all the
>
> > > extended roadworks happening up there still, maybe a problem finding a
>
> > > suitable meet up place?
>
> > >
>
> > > Cheers.
>
> > >
>
> > > Ken
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
>
> > > From: spbconsulting@
>
> > > Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 14:57:49 +1000
>
> > > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] 2011 Nationals Sunday May 22, 2011
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > > Hi All,
>
> > >
>
> > > Just checking who is planning to come along to the NSW / Sydney
>
> > > Nationals this year?
>
> > >
>
> > > Also are you putting your vehicle in and if so can we get a Syncro
>
> > > corale going again like last year?
>
> > >
>
> > > Cheers,
>
> > >
>
> > > Skot
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > Ken,
>
> >
>
> > I would agree - it needed Mark to organise this as he has contacts in
>
> > the Nationals hierarchy which the rest of us do not so I see this wont
>
> > happen.
>
> >
>
> > My boss wants to put the syncro in the show so she will be on her way
>
> > down early. I will be venturing down once the Princesses wake up and I
>
> > have fed and dressed them. That will mean around 11:00am before I even
>
> > get there in my old 71 bus.
>
> >
>
> > Anyway, the car park is a possibility but not where all the action is.
>
> >
>
> > Also I agree about Kariong - it will look like that for another 10 years
>
> > the way they are going.
>
> >
>
> > We will work something out. I was thinking about going into the area,
>
> > saying I am entering the show then parking outside just next to the
>
> > undercover area. I have done this before and you are still almost in the
>
> > action and is much better than the outer car park.
>
> >
>
> > Cheers,
>
> >
>
> > Skot
>
> >
>

bencroft96 · 10 May 2011 09:03

Group,Steve Carter is the new president of the club.Maybe this issue should be brought to his attention.Can I ask,How many Syncro owners here are members of ClubVW?
BenC

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, Hartmut Kiehn <hartis@...> wrote:
>
>
> Hi Mark, All,
>
> The attitude of those decision makers I don't like very much and that's why the Port Mac Syncros will spend that weekend right on the beach at South West Rocks.
>
> For the future I could envisage our Syncro Nationals somewhere where we can stay/camp (as for Kamper) overnight, maybe somewhere South of Sydney so as to include our Vic
>
> contingent and every 2nd year together with Valla as for our Banana Benders friends to attend.
>
> Just an idea........... Hart
>
>
>
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> From: markkofahl@...
> Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 23:14:54 +1000
> Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: 2011 Nationals Sunday May 22, 2011
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I haven't checked yet this year - can this be confirmed?? No Syncro / water-cooled Offroad (Ie Syncro/Tiguan/touareg/Golf Country) category?
>
>
> Maybe we need to run our own Carpark Cup?
>
>
> - Cleanest Syncro
> - Dirtiest Syncro
> - Most Accessorised Syncro
> - Least Accessorised Syncro
>
>
> Think up some more categories and we should get a good turnout and everyone go home smiling :-)
>
>
> Mark
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 09/05/2011, at 8:11 PM, Ben <bencroft96@...> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Skot,Ken,Mark and all.I just had a look at the list of catergories and there isnt a class specific for Syncros.There is a T3 all class,not even offroad watercooled.Skot this means your up against Phills Ute if he brings it.
>
> --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, Ken Garratt <unclekenz@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Mark,
> > I seem to recall last year there was some hiccup with total cost of entry for each syncro plus occupant/s ... perhaps due to a misunderstanding of what was the per vehicle entry fee originally agreed to before the show with organisers compared to what was actually demanded on entry on the day. Those who really weren't interested in the competition and just wanted to be there together, baulked somewhat at the final entry fees.
> > So if that was the case, then this issue will repeat again this year, hence my suggestion that a carpark group hug of beasts as being the only practical alternative. The flasher vans can still pay the extra and get onto "hallowed turf" for the competition, the mere mortals of us can just kick up our heels outside!
> > Just make sure you bring enough coffee so we can all wet the doka!
> > Ken
> >
> > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > From: markkofahl@
> > Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 19:03:42 +1000
> > Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: 2011 Nationals Sunday May 22, 2011
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Ben, Ken, Skot and all
> > I'd love to see the Syncro lineup again and Ken is certainly correct that it took quite some organisation last year.
> > Regrettably last year the president made some negative remarks to me, peppered with language that some individuals would find offensive, about the extraordinary inconvenience it presented to the organisers. I do not share this view. I would have preferred a 'Thanks for organising a display & lineup, and next year could we try doing it a little differently'
> >
> >
> > Needless to say, following those comments I have elected not to pursue a Syncro line-up again.
> >
> > That all said, I would love to see all the Syncros together, and I would love to do some camping, however, I know Skot is not keen on this generally immediately before a show when trying to keep the vehicle neat and clean inside and out (agreed this impossible when camping).
> >
> >
> > A carpark assembly and then joint run into the show is the only thing I can think of, such that all vehicles arrive simultaneously into the undercroft.
> > Mark.
> >
> >
> > On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 5:24 PM, Ben <bencroft96@> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Ken,Skot and Mark and others.
> >
> > If Mark has the contacts and could find out where they plan to put us that would be great.It was a great day last year,but I dont see the point of going with my bus if we are going to be put out in the carpark or out in some back paddock.I will be there with or without the Syncro.
> >
> >
> >
> > Has anyone seen the classes?Is there not a class for Syncros?I hope so
> >
> > Skots been polishing for weeks!:)
> >
> > BenC
> >
> > --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, Scott Pitcher <spbconsulting@> wrote:
> >
> > >
> >
> > > On 9/05/2011 4:11 PM, Ken Garratt wrote:
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > Scott,
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > That undercover arrangement last year took many months on and off of
> >
> > > > negotiation between various parties to pull off, so I'd say a
> >
> > > > snowballs chance in hell for 22/05/2011. I also understand other
> >
> > > > variant groups were totally jealous of our allocated space undercover
> >
> > > > and so I wouldn't be at all surprised if organisers have had to fend
> >
> > > > off other claimants this year for their turn at the same premium
> >
> > > > space. We probably opened for the organisers an unwanted pandoras box
> >
> > > > last year. It was splendid and unique but a one off accommodation. See
> >
> > > > if you can prove me wrong ok, I'd be happy to be.
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > Nearest alternative I suspect would be a group hug of beasts out in
> >
> > > > the carpark.
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > Given there has been no weekend away camping trip for Sydney region
> >
> > > > beasts this year, maybe this carpark group hug is all that's going to
> >
> > > > eventuate, so better be in it!
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > Depending upon what's happening here nearer to the time, I'll decide
> >
> > > > then, given mine is not a show pony.
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > I guess the convoy from Kariong is still happening, but with all the
> >
> > > > extended roadworks happening up there still, maybe a problem finding a
> >
> > > > suitable meet up place?
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > Cheers.
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > Ken
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> >
> > > > From: spbconsulting@
> >
> > > > Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 14:57:49 +1000
> >
> > > > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] 2011 Nationals Sunday May 22, 2011
> >
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> > > > Hi All,
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> > > > Just checking who is planning to come along to the NSW / Sydney
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> > > > Nationals this year?
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> > > > Also are you putting your vehicle in and if so can we get a Syncro
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> > > > corale going again like last year?
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> > > > Cheers,
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> > > > Skot
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> > > Ken,
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> > > I would agree - it needed Mark to organise this as he has contacts in
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> > > the Nationals hierarchy which the rest of us do not so I see this wont
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> > > happen.
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> > > My boss wants to put the syncro in the show so she will be on her way
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> > > down early. I will be venturing down once the Princesses wake up and I
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> > > have fed and dressed them. That will mean around 11:00am before I even
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> > > get there in my old 71 bus.
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> > > Anyway, the car park is a possibility but not where all the action is.
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> > > Also I agree about Kariong - it will look like that for another 10 years
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> > > the way they are going.
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> > > We will work something out. I was thinking about going into the area,
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> > > saying I am entering the show then parking outside just next to the
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> > > undercover area. I have done this before and you are still almost in the
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> > > action and is much better than the outer car park.
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> > > Cheers,
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> > > Skot
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