New windscreen

1
Gday all, just had a new windscreen fitted after I'd accidently cracked
the old one. Interestingly, the new screen was manufactured in
Queensland, only one model available which turned out to be a legal
fully tinted screen as well as the deeper tint top band. Looks very
classy compared to the old non-tint screen I broke.
All up cost was $195 fitted at home. Two interesting points to be aware
of ....
The trakka poptop is so close to the top of the screen rubber, makes it
very difficult for the 2 fitters to get the new screen in along the top.
Got there in the end, they didn't blow a fuse despite being tested, so I
was impressed.
My old screen along the bottom edge had a creeping "fog" working its way
upwards. Fitters said that was because no sealing mastic had been gunned
in between the glass and the rubber surround along the bottom edge. That
means water can get into the joint and the screen is sitting in water,
which leaches into the screen laminate and sends the screen "foggy". So
if you replace your screen, make sure the fitters go the extra step and
gun in the sealing mastic between glass and rubber along the bottom.

Highly recommend my installers, very professional, did a great job. 12
months guarantee against leaking.

Cheers.
Ken
2
I have heard that it is not legal to put a sealant in a dry fit windsceen.

Better off with a new rubber,



> Ken <unclekenz@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> Gday all, just had a new windscreen fitted after I'd accidently cracked
> the old one. Interestingly, the new screen was manufactured in
> Queensland, only one model available which turned out to be a legal
> fully tinted screen as well as the deeper tint top band. Looks very
> classy compared to the old non-tint screen I broke.
> All up cost was $195 fitted at home. Two interesting points to be aware
> of ....
> The trakka poptop is so close to the top of the screen rubber, makes it
> very difficult for the 2 fitters to get the new screen in along the top.
> Got there in the end, they didn't blow a fuse despite being tested, so I
> was impressed.
> My old screen along the bottom edge had a creeping "fog" working its way
> upwards. Fitters said that was because no sealing mastic had been gunned
> in between the glass and the rubber surround along the bottom edge. That
> means water can get into the joint and the screen is sitting in water,
> which leaches into the screen laminate and sends the screen "foggy". So
> if you replace your screen, make sure the fitters go the extra step and
> gun in the sealing mastic between glass and rubber along the bottom.
>
> Highly recommend my installers, very professional, did a great job. 12
> months guarantee against leaking.
>
> Cheers.
> Ken
3
and what pray tell is the mind boggling logic for heard illegality?


--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, plander@... wrote:
>
> I have heard that it is not legal to put a sealant in a dry fit
windsceen.
>
> Better off with a new rubber,
>
>
>
> > Ken unclekenz@... wrote:
> >
> >
> > Gday all, just had a new windscreen fitted after I'd accidently
cracked
> > the old one. Interestingly, the new screen was manufactured in
> > Queensland, only one model available which turned out to be a legal
> > fully tinted screen as well as the deeper tint top band. Looks very
> > classy compared to the old non-tint screen I broke.
> > All up cost was $195 fitted at home. Two interesting points to be
aware
> > of ....
> > The trakka poptop is so close to the top of the screen rubber, makes
it
> > very difficult for the 2 fitters to get the new screen in along the
top.
> > Got there in the end, they didn't blow a fuse despite being tested,
so I
> > was impressed.
> > My old screen along the bottom edge had a creeping "fog" working its
way
> > upwards. Fitters said that was because no sealing mastic had been
gunned
> > in between the glass and the rubber surround along the bottom edge.
That
> > means water can get into the joint and the screen is sitting in
water,
> > which leaches into the screen laminate and sends the screen "foggy".
So
> > if you replace your screen, make sure the fitters go the extra step
and
> > gun in the sealing mastic between glass and rubber along the bottom.
> >
> > Highly recommend my installers, very professional, did a great job.
12
> > months guarantee against leaking.
> >
> > Cheers.
> > Ken
>
4
Causes rust, blocks the drain holes, not neccassary.
They come from the factory dry, so that is what they were designed for.



> Ken <unclekenz@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> and what pray tell is the mind boggling logic for heard illegality?
>
>
> --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, plander@... wrote:
> >
> > I have heard that it is not legal to put a sealant in a dry fit
> windsceen.
> >
> > Better off with a new rubber,
> >
> >
> >
> > > Ken unclekenz@... wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Gday all, just had a new windscreen fitted after I'd accidently
> cracked
> > > the old one. Interestingly, the new screen was manufactured in
> > > Queensland, only one model available which turned out to be a legal
> > > fully tinted screen as well as the deeper tint top band. Looks very
> > > classy compared to the old non-tint screen I broke.
> > > All up cost was $195 fitted at home. Two interesting points to be
> aware
> > > of ....
> > > The trakka poptop is so close to the top of the screen rubber, makes
> it
> > > very difficult for the 2 fitters to get the new screen in along the
> top.
> > > Got there in the end, they didn't blow a fuse despite being tested,
> so I
> > > was impressed.
> > > My old screen along the bottom edge had a creeping "fog" working its
> way
> > > upwards. Fitters said that was because no sealing mastic had been
> gunned
> > > in between the glass and the rubber surround along the bottom edge.
> That
> > > means water can get into the joint and the screen is sitting in
> water,
> > > which leaches into the screen laminate and sends the screen "foggy".
> So
> > > if you replace your screen, make sure the fitters go the extra step
> and
> > > gun in the sealing mastic between glass and rubber along the bottom.
> > >
> > > Highly recommend my installers, very professional, did a great job.
> 12
> > > months guarantee against leaking.
> > >
> > > Cheers.
> > > Ken
> >
5
Phil, when did you last have a T3 windscreen out for a look-see?

Fact: Putting sealing mastic in the joint between the rubber and the
glass can't cause rust because there is no metal there to rust.

Fact: It's not possible to block the drain holes because there are no
drain holes. It's a dry system.

Fact: The sealing mastic between glass and rubber was recommended by the
installers, as I said before, otherwise there is the potential for the
bottom of the windscreen to sit in water and send the windscreen foggy
between the laminates as did happen to my old windscreen taken out,
especially because, as I said, there are no drain holes and there was no
sealing mastic. To me then, that sounds a lot like "necessary".

Fact: If there were drainholes in the rubber seal, most T3's would have
extensive rust in the metalwork under the bottom seal caused by water
pooling. Why would it pool? Because the metalwork base slopes inwards,
not outwards, and there are no drain holes there either. Nor did I find
any rust there.

Your honour, I rest my case.

p.s., oh and again then, what pray tell is the mind boggling logic for
heard "illegality" you stated?

Cheers. Ken


--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, plander@... wrote:
>
> Causes rust, blocks the drain holes, not neccassary.
> They come from the factory dry, so that is what they were designed
for.
>
>
>
> > Ken unclekenz@... wrote:
> >
> >
> > and what pray tell is the mind boggling logic for heard illegality?
> >
> >
> > --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, plander@ wrote:
> > >
> > > I have heard that it is not legal to put a sealant in a dry fit
> > windsceen.
> > >
> > > Better off with a new rubber,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > Ken unclekenz@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Gday all, just had a new windscreen fitted after I'd accidently
> > cracked
> > > > the old one. Interestingly, the new screen was manufactured in
> > > > Queensland, only one model available which turned out to be a
legal
> > > > fully tinted screen as well as the deeper tint top band. Looks
very
> > > > classy compared to the old non-tint screen I broke.
> > > > All up cost was $195 fitted at home. Two interesting points to
be
> > aware
> > > > of ....
> > > > The trakka poptop is so close to the top of the screen rubber,
makes
> > it
> > > > very difficult for the 2 fitters to get the new screen in along
the
> > top.
> > > > Got there in the end, they didn't blow a fuse despite being
tested,
> > so I
> > > > was impressed.
> > > > My old screen along the bottom edge had a creeping "fog" working
its
> > way
> > > > upwards. Fitters said that was because no sealing mastic had
been
> > gunned
> > > > in between the glass and the rubber surround along the bottom
edge.
> > That
> > > > means water can get into the joint and the screen is sitting in
> > water,
> > > > which leaches into the screen laminate and sends the screen
"foggy".
> > So
> > > > if you replace your screen, make sure the fitters go the extra
step
> > and
> > > > gun in the sealing mastic between glass and rubber along the
bottom.
> > > >
> > > > Highly recommend my installers, very professional, did a great
job.
> > 12
> > > > months guarantee against leaking.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers.
> > > > Ken
> > >
>
6
Phil, when did you last have a T3 windscreen out for a look-see?

Fact: Putting sealing mastic in the joint between the rubber and the
glass can't cause rust because there is no metal there to rust.

Fact: It's not possible to block the drain holes because there are no
drain holes. It's a dry system.

Fact: The sealing mastic between glass and rubber was recommended by the
installers, as I said before, otherwise there is the potential for the
bottom of the windscreen to sit in water and send the windscreen foggy
between the laminates as did happen to my old windscreen taken out,
especially because, as I said, there are no drain holes and there was no
sealing mastic. To me then, that sounds a lot like "necessary".

Fact: If there were drainholes in the rubber seal, most T3's would have
extensive rust in the metalwork under the bottom seal caused by water
pooling. Why would it pool? Because the metalwork base slopes inwards,
not outwards, and there are no drain holes there either. Nor did I find
any rust there.

Your honour, I rest my case.

p.s., oh and again then, what pray tell is the mind boggling logic for
heard "illegality" you stated?

Cheers. Ken


--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, plander@... wrote:
>
> Causes rust, blocks the drain holes, not neccassary.
> They come from the factory dry, so that is what they were designed
for.
>
>
>
> > Ken unclekenz@... wrote:
> >
> >
> > and what pray tell is the mind boggling logic for heard illegality?
> >
> >
> > --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, plander@ wrote:
> > >
> > > I have heard that it is not legal to put a sealant in a dry fit
> > windsceen.
> > >
> > > Better off with a new rubber,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > Ken unclekenz@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Gday all, just had a new windscreen fitted after I'd accidently
> > cracked
> > > > the old one. Interestingly, the new screen was manufactured in
> > > > Queensland, only one model available which turned out to be a
legal
> > > > fully tinted screen as well as the deeper tint top band. Looks
very
> > > > classy compared to the old non-tint screen I broke.
> > > > All up cost was $195 fitted at home. Two interesting points to
be
> > aware
> > > > of ....
> > > > The trakka poptop is so close to the top of the screen rubber,
makes
> > it
> > > > very difficult for the 2 fitters to get the new screen in along
the
> > top.
> > > > Got there in the end, they didn't blow a fuse despite being
tested,
> > so I
> > > > was impressed.
> > > > My old screen along the bottom edge had a creeping "fog" working
its
> > way
> > > > upwards. Fitters said that was because no sealing mastic had
been
> > gunned
> > > > in between the glass and the rubber surround along the bottom
edge.
> > That
> > > > means water can get into the joint and the screen is sitting in
> > water,
> > > > which leaches into the screen laminate and sends the screen
"foggy".
> > So
> > > > if you replace your screen, make sure the fitters go the extra
step
> > and
> > > > gun in the sealing mastic between glass and rubber along the
bottom.
> > > >
> > > > Highly recommend my installers, very professional, did a great
job.
> > 12
> > > > months guarantee against leaking.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers.
> > > > Ken
> > >
>
7
--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Ken" <unclekenz@...> wrote:


> Fact: The sealing mastic between glass and rubber was recommended by
the
> installers, as I said before, otherwise there is the potential for the
> bottom of the windscreen to sit in water and send the windscreen foggy
> between the laminates as did happen to my old windscreen taken out,
> especially because, as I said, there are no drain holes and there was
no
> sealing mastic. To me then, that sounds a lot like "necessary".


The installer probably sells crap windscreens (undersize).

I would believe a factory engineer rather than an installer. Although
when I had my windscreen replaced the installer said in was not
necessary