We might have to start numbering our Bens.
You, of course, are Ben 1.
Les
From:
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Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of BenT Syncro
Sent: 12 January 2011 21:55
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia]
no news is good news??
I'd love to claim credit, Hartis but that advice is from BenC not BenT.;-)
Sent from by me
This makes Ben Croft = Ben 2 and Ben Travers = Ben 3.
From:
Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Les
Harris
Sent: 12 January 2011 22:01
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia]
no news is good news??
We might have to start numbering our Bens.
You, of course, are Ben 1.
Les
On Jan 12, 2011, at 3:04 AM, "Les Harris" <leslieharris@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
This makes Ben Croft = Ben 2 and Ben Travers = Ben 3.
From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Les Harris
Sent: 12 January 2011 22:01
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] no news is good news??
We might have to start numbering our Bens.
You, of course, are Ben 1.
Les
--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Les Harris" <leslieharris@...> wrote:
>
> This makes Ben Croft = Ben 2 and Ben Travers = Ben 3.
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Les Harris
> Sent: 12 January 2011 22:01
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] no news is good news??
>
>
>
> We might have to start numbering our Bens.
>
> You, of course, are Ben 1.
>
> Les
>
----- Original Message -----From: Les HarrisSent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 10:04 PMSubject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] no news is good news??
This makes Ben Croft = Ben 2 and Ben Travers = Ben 3.
From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com [mailto: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Les Harris
Sent: 12 January 2011 22:01
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] no news is good news??
We might have to start numbering our Bens.
You, of course, are Ben 1.
Les
--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, BenT Syncro <syncro@...> wrote:
>
> Goodness, must I start using my real initials?
>
> B.E.S.T. Might seem a bit pretentious though. ;-)
>
> Still me,
>
> BenT
>
> On Jan 12, 2011, at 3:04 AM, "Les Harris" <leslieharris@...> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > This makes Ben Croft = Ben 2 and Ben Travers = Ben 3.
> >
> > From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Les Harris
> > Sent: 12 January 2011 22:01
> > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] no news is good news??
> >
> > We might have to start numbering our Bens.
> > You, of course, are Ben 1.
> > Les
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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On Jan 12, 2011, at 3:15 AM, "Ben" <bencroft96@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Id rather be Ben10(got kids??),or BenC will do.
> Just like money in the BenC,BenT always says...
>
> --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Les Harris" <leslieharris@...> wrote:
>>
>> This makes Ben Croft = Ben 2 and Ben Travers = Ben 3.
>>
>>
>>
>> _____
>>
>> From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
>> [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Les Harris
>> Sent: 12 January 2011 22:01
>> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
>> Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] no news is good news??
>>
>>
>>
>> We might have to start numbering our Bens.
>>
>> You, of course, are Ben 1.
>>
>> Les
>>
>
>
On Jan 12, 2011, at 3:24 AM, "Ben" <bencroft96@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Very cleaver!
>
> --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, BenT Syncro <syncro@...> wrote:
>>
>> Goodness, must I start using my real initials?
>>
>> B.E.S.T. Might seem a bit pretentious though. ;-)
>>
>> Still me,
>>
>> BenT
>>
>> On Jan 12, 2011, at 3:04 AM, "Les Harris" <leslieharris@...> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> This makes Ben Croft = Ben 2 and Ben Travers = Ben 3.
>>>
>>> From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Les Harris
>>> Sent: 12 January 2011 22:01
>>> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] no news is good news??
>>>
>>> We might have to start numbering our Bens.
>>> You, of course, are Ben 1.
>>> Les
>>>
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----- Original Message -----From: Mr Scott PitcherSent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 1:07 AMSubject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] no news is good news??
Ben,The distributor seems a bit odd and still the cause as when the mechanic puts an LED strobe on the power from the sensor it seems to get the engine working. Maybe this shorts something out or bypasses something.Anyway, what happened to him was he puts the new sensor on - it doesn't work (even though it is a matching part # it ha been superseded 3 x - its 20 years old now) so it has the optical sensor above but it doesn't seem to have one at the back of the sensor like the old one.Then he installs the old one puts the LED strobe on and it starts. This LED strobe whilst it does slightly earth it is a very weak earth and would not be sufficient to override a normal earth.The problem is strange it has full power and idles, purrs, doesn't miss a beat then suddenly it cuts out completely. The mechanic said he was giving it a fair bit when it cut out on him - he didn't realise how much power it had in the higher revs. He towed it back, put the strobe on and it fired up again.When it does die it will crank over (has a brand new ignition switch in the steering column) at full starter speed, all power lights on the dash work as normal, the computer lights up, engine bay monitor lights up as well - but no spark at all. The coil is getting power but is not switching. The fuel pump is controlled by the ignition switch I think as it will pump (you can hear it) as soon as the ignition is switched on. This still pumps.So this arvo, I managed to drive the car home under its own steam with the mechanic following and get it in my garage (out of his way as he has limited room and another 4 non working kombis to get in his shed). He then removed the distributor and will send it down to AFI in Sydney for a rebuild which they said they have done several of. They have the best testing equipment to ensure it works 100% before it leaves.I will call Microtech tomorrow and see if they have seen a similar problem or could diagnose it as I have the computer reader in the car.We have checked what we think is all the earths but I guess you never know. Now I have the syncro back in my garage I will get under it and check everything I can again. Still very muddy from the Plommer Rd adventure under there so I will probably wear a fair bit of nth coast mud.I will report back if I find anything.Cheers,Skot----- Original Message -----From: BenSent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 7:12 PMSubject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] no news is good news??Skot,I was going to add last night,that if it runs on the old parts,then your looking at another issue.You have an after market ecu right,does it need to be earthed?Check that.Then be in contact with the manufacturer of the ECU.They will be more help than some 'suby experts' on your er27.Mechanics in Oz will say what is that?
When it breaks down do you have any spark?Do you have reds and are still able to crank over with starter?
Does it just cut out then nothing,or loose power then die?
Is the fuel pump controlled by the ecu?
Check all your earths and add some if you believe there isnt enough.
Check you battery terminals.
I know this all sounds too easy to be the problem,but chances are it is somthing real small,after all it has been running sweet as a suby in a vanagon(forgive the pun) for over ten years.
BenC
--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Mr Scott Pitcher" <spbconsulting@...> wrote:
>
> Tried both new sensors and both failed and it runs perfect on the old sensor. Took it for a drive and it broke down again.
>
> I will call these Scooby specialists in Sydney.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Skot
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: plander@...
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 8:42 AM
> Subject: Re: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] no news is good news??
>
>
>
>
> Skot,
>
> Have you tried this place in Mortdale
>
> http://www.alldrivesubaroo.com.au/subaru_spare_parts.html
>
> They bring parts in from Japan and do mechanical repairs
>
> Phill
>
> > Mr Scott Pitcher <spbconsulting@...> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks Roger.
> >
> > It seems that according to the Vancafe catalogue, the 84-85 models which
> > would have the 1.9L F/I motor had both an ignition control unit and a
> > halls sensor (similar to my subaru donk) but the later models - the part
> > is not listed and hence it must have been deleted from the ignition
> > system.
> >
> > The CAS or hall sensor is all pre-wired on a plate so it really should
> > not require modification.
> >
> > But if he fails to get a new one going we may need to look at the
> > wiring. What a pain in the .....!
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Skot
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Gullyraker@...
> > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 11:53 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] no news is good news??
> >
> >
> >
> > Interesting, Skot -
> >
> > I bought a "genuine" Bosch unit p/n 1 237 010 039 from Vancafe about
> > a year ago, and when I fitted it discovered that there was a subtle
> > difference - from memory, I think there was an issue with the wiring
> > that needed a minor modification to make it work. With that, and the new
> > O2 sensor and injectors, the old girl runs sweet as a nut.
> >
> >
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Roger.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Daniel - Turbovans" <ScottDaniel@...> wrote:
>
> sounds like you're on the right track.
>
> I have seen this twice now ...'So this arvo'...
>
> what's that mean ?
>
> 'this arvo' ...sounds like 'this afternoon.' ???
>
> and an LED strobe is an inductive timing light ?
> thanks.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Mr Scott Pitcher
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 1:07 AM
> Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] no news is good news??
>
>
>
>
> Ben,
>
> The distributor seems a bit odd and still the cause as when the mechanic puts an LED strobe on the power from the sensor it seems to get the engine working. Maybe this shorts something out or bypasses something.
>
> Anyway, what happened to him was he puts the new sensor on - it doesn't work (even though it is a matching part # it ha been superseded 3 x - its 20 years old now) so it has the optical sensor above but it doesn't seem to have one at the back of the sensor like the old one.
>
> Then he installs the old one puts the LED strobe on and it starts. This LED strobe whilst it does slightly earth it is a very weak earth and would not be sufficient to override a normal earth.
>
> The problem is strange it has full power and idles, purrs, doesn't miss a beat then suddenly it cuts out completely. The mechanic said he was giving it a fair bit when it cut out on him - he didn't realise how much power it had in the higher revs. He towed it back, put the strobe on and it fired up again.
>
> When it does die it will crank over (has a brand new ignition switch in the steering column) at full starter speed, all power lights on the dash work as normal, the computer lights up, engine bay monitor lights up as well - but no spark at all. The coil is getting power but is not switching. The fuel pump is controlled by the ignition switch I think as it will pump (you can hear it) as soon as the ignition is switched on. This still pumps.
>
> So this arvo, I managed to drive the car home under its own steam with the mechanic following and get it in my garage (out of his way as he has limited room and another 4 non working kombis to get in his shed). He then removed the distributor and will send it down to AFI in Sydney for a rebuild which they said they have done several of. They have the best testing equipment to ensure it works 100% before it leaves.
>
> I will call Microtech tomorrow and see if they have seen a similar problem or could diagnose it as I have the computer reader in the car.
>
> We have checked what we think is all the earths but I guess you never know. Now I have the syncro back in my garage I will get under it and check everything I can again. Still very muddy from the Plommer Rd adventure under there so I will probably wear a fair bit of nth coast mud.
>
> I will report back if I find anything.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Skot
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Ben
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 7:12 PM
> Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] no news is good news??
>
>
>
> Skot,I was going to add last night,that if it runs on the old parts,then your looking at another issue.You have an after market ecu right,does it need to be earthed?Check that.Then be in contact with the manufacturer of the ECU.They will be more help than some 'suby experts' on your er27.Mechanics in Oz will say what is that?
> When it breaks down do you have any spark?Do you have reds and are still able to crank over with starter?
> Does it just cut out then nothing,or loose power then die?
> Is the fuel pump controlled by the ecu?
> Check all your earths and add some if you believe there isnt enough.
> Check you battery terminals.
> I know this all sounds too easy to be the problem,but chances are it is somthing real small,after all it has been running sweet as a suby in a vanagon(forgive the pun) for over ten years.
> BenC
>
> --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Mr Scott Pitcher" <spbconsulting@> wrote:
> >
> > Tried both new sensors and both failed and it runs perfect on the old sensor. Took it for a drive and it broke down again.
> >
> > I will call these Scooby specialists in Sydney.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Skot
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: plander@
> > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 8:42 AM
> > Subject: Re: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] no news is good news??
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Skot,
> >
> > Have you tried this place in Mortdale
> >
> > http://www.alldrivesubaroo.com.au/subaru_spare_parts.html
> >
> > They bring parts in from Japan and do mechanical repairs
> >
> > Phill
> >
> > > Mr Scott Pitcher <spbconsulting@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanks Roger.
> > >
> > > It seems that according to the Vancafe catalogue, the 84-85 models which
> > > would have the 1.9L F/I motor had both an ignition control unit and a
> > > halls sensor (similar to my subaru donk) but the later models - the part
> > > is not listed and hence it must have been deleted from the ignition
> > > system.
> > >
> > > The CAS or hall sensor is all pre-wired on a plate so it really should
> > > not require modification.
> > >
> > > But if he fails to get a new one going we may need to look at the
> > > wiring. What a pain in the .....!
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > > Skot
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Gullyraker@
> > > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 11:53 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] no news is good news??
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Interesting, Skot -
> > >
> > > I bought a "genuine" Bosch unit p/n 1 237 010 039 from Vancafe about
> > > a year ago, and when I fitted it discovered that there was a subtle
> > > difference - from memory, I think there was an issue with the wiring
> > > that needed a minor modification to make it work. With that, and the new
> > > O2 sensor and injectors, the old girl runs sweet as a nut.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Roger.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
----- Original Message -----From: Scott Daniel - TurbovansSent: Thursday, January 13, 2011 6:07 AMSubject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] no news is good news??
sounds like you're on the right track.I have seen this twice now ...'So this arvo'...what's that mean ?'this arvo' ...sounds like 'this afternoon.' ???and an LED strobe is an inductive timing light ?thanks.----- Original Message -----From: Mr Scott PitcherSent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 1:07 AMSubject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] no news is good news??
Ben,The distributor seems a bit odd and still the cause as when the mechanic puts an LED strobe on the power from the sensor it seems to get the engine working. Maybe this shorts something out or bypasses something.Anyway, what happened to him was he puts the new sensor on - it doesn't work (even though it is a matching part # it ha been superseded 3 x - its 20 years old now) so it has the optical sensor above but it doesn't seem to have one at the back of the sensor like the old one.Then he installs the old one puts the LED strobe on and it starts. This LED strobe whilst it does slightly earth it is a very weak earth and would not be sufficient to override a normal earth.The problem is strange it has full power and idles, purrs, doesn't miss a beat then suddenly it cuts out completely. The mechanic said he was giving it a fair bit when it cut out on him - he didn't realise how much power it had in the higher revs. He towed it back, put the strobe on and it fired up again.When it does die it will crank over (has a brand new ignition switch in the steering column) at full starter speed, all power lights on the dash work as normal, the computer lights up, engine bay monitor lights up as well - but no spark at all. The coil is getting power but is not switching. The fuel pump is controlled by the ignition switch I think as it will pump (you can hear it) as soon as the ignition is switched on. This still pumps.So this arvo, I managed to drive the car home under its own steam with the mechanic following and get it in my garage (out of his way as he has limited room and another 4 non working kombis to get in his shed). He then removed the distributor and will send it down to AFI in Sydney for a rebuild which they said they have done several of. They have the best testing equipment to ensure it works 100% before it leaves.I will call Microtech tomorrow and see if they have seen a similar problem or could diagnose it as I have the computer reader in the car.We have checked what we think is all the earths but I guess you never know. Now I have the syncro back in my garage I will get under it and check everything I can again. Still very muddy from the Plommer Rd adventure under there so I will probably wear a fair bit of nth coast mud.I will report back if I find anything.Cheers,Skot----- Original Message -----From: BenSent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 7:12 PMSubject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] no news is good news??Skot,I was going to add last night,that if it runs on the old parts,then your looking at another issue.You have an after market ecu right,does it need to be earthed?Check that.Then be in contact with the manufacturer of the ECU.They will be more help than some 'suby experts' on your er27.Mechanics in Oz will say what is that?
When it breaks down do you have any spark?Do you have reds and are still able to crank over with starter?
Does it just cut out then nothing,or loose power then die?
Is the fuel pump controlled by the ecu?
Check all your earths and add some if you believe there isnt enough.
Check you battery terminals.
I know this all sounds too easy to be the problem,but chances are it is somthing real small,after all it has been running sweet as a suby in a vanagon(forgive the pun) for over ten years.
BenC
--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Mr Scott Pitcher" <spbconsulting@...> wrote:
>
> Tried both new sensors and both failed and it runs perfect on the old sensor. Took it for a drive and it broke down again.
>
> I will call these Scooby specialists in Sydney.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Skot
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: plander@...
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 8:42 AM
> Subject: Re: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] no news is good news??
>
>
>
>
> Skot,
>
> Have you tried this place in Mortdale
>
> http://www.alldrivesubaroo.com.au/subaru_spare_parts.html
>
> They bring parts in from Japan and do mechanical repairs
>
> Phill
>
> > Mr Scott Pitcher <spbconsulting@...> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks Roger.
> >
> > It seems that according to the Vancafe catalogue, the 84-85 models which
> > would have the 1.9L F/I motor had both an ignition control unit and a
> > halls sensor (similar to my subaru donk) but the later models - the part
> > is not listed and hence it must have been deleted from the ignition
> > system.
> >
> > The CAS or hall sensor is all pre-wired on a plate so it really should
> > not require modification.
> >
> > But if he fails to get a new one going we may need to look at the
> > wiring. What a pain in the .....!
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Skot
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Gullyraker@...
> > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 11:53 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] no news is good news??
> >
> >
> >
> > Interesting, Skot -
> >
> > I bought a "genuine" Bosch unit p/n 1 237 010 039 from Vancafe about
> > a year ago, and when I fitted it discovered that there was a subtle
> > difference - from memory, I think there was an issue with the wiring
> > that needed a minor modification to make it work. With that, and the new
> > O2 sensor and injectors, the old girl runs sweet as a nut.
> >
> >
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Roger.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
----- Original Message -----From: plander@optusnet.com.auSent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 8:42 AMSubject: Re: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] no news is good news??
Skot,
Have you tried this place in Mortdale
http://www.alldrivesubaroo.com.au/subaru_spare_parts.html
They bring parts in from Japan and do mechanical repairs
Phill
> Mr Scott Pitcher <spbconsulting@bigpond.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks Roger.
>
> It seems that according to the Vancafe catalogue, the 84-85 models which
> would have the 1.9L F/I motor had both an ignition control unit and a
> halls sensor (similar to my subaru donk) but the later models - the part
> is not listed and hence it must have been deleted from the ignition
> system.
>
> The CAS or hall sensor is all pre-wired on a plate so it really should
> not require modification.
>
> But if he fails to get a new one going we may need to look at the
> wiring. What a pain in the .....!
>
> Cheers,
>
> Skot
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Gullyraker@aol.com
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 11:53 PM
> Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] no news is good news??
>
>
>
> Interesting, Skot -
>
> I bought a "genuine" Bosch unit p/n 1 237 010 039 from Vancafe about
> a year ago, and when I fitted it discovered that there was a subtle
> difference - from memory, I think there was an issue with the wiring
> that needed a minor modification to make it work. With that, and the new
> O2 sensor and injectors, the old girl runs sweet as a nut.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
> Roger.
>
>
>
>
>
> Mr Scott Pitcher <spbconsulting@bigpond.com> wrote:
>
> Phill,
>
> Tried these guys and they were helpful but all they could diagnose was
> that I have a loose connection or a dirty connection.
>
> Went through all these blew all connections out with silicone spray and
> compressed air. There is one I want to change from the dizzy to the
> coil/ computer as it is open and was full of mud.
>
> But despite Australian Fuel Injection reconditioning my dizzy the car is
> still stuck in my garage not starting. They keep giving me this optical
> sensor that is wrong - my mechanic could see it clearly -so why cant
> they??
>
> My disc that spins in the dizzy has an outer row of many little slots
> plus separate 6 slots for the spark timing. The new sensors only have a
> sensor to pick up the inner 6 not the outer speed sensor.
>
> Anyway, back to the mechanic on Monday for more expenditure.
> Maybe a new dizzy is in order?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Skot
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: plander@optusnet.com.au
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 8:42 AM
> Subject: Re: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] no news is good news??
>
>
>
>
> Skot,
>
> Have you tried this place in Mortdale
>
> http://www.alldrivesubaroo.com.au/subaru_spare_parts.html
>
> They bring parts in from Japan and do mechanical repairs
>
> Phill
>
> > Mr Scott Pitcher <spbconsulting@bigpond.com> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks Roger.
> >
> > It seems that according to the Vancafe catalogue, the 84-85 models
> which
> > would have the 1.9L F/I motor had both an ignition control unit and
> a
> > halls sensor (similar to my subaru donk) but the later models - the
> part
> > is not listed and hence it must have been deleted from the ignition
> > system.
> >
> > The CAS or hall sensor is all pre-wired on a plate so it really
> should
> > not require modification.
> >
> > But if he fails to get a new one going we may need to look at the
> > wiring. What a pain in the .....!
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Skot
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Gullyraker@aol.com
> > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 11:53 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] no news is good news??
> >
> >
> >
> > Interesting, Skot -
> >
> > I bought a "genuine" Bosch unit p/n 1 237 010 039 from Vancafe about
>
> > a year ago, and when I fitted it discovered that there was a subtle
> > difference - from memory, I think there was an issue with the wiring
>
> > that needed a minor modification to make it work. With that, and the
> new
> > O2 sensor and injectors, the old girl runs sweet as a nut.
> >
> >
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Roger.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
Scott,
I’m assuming when you say slots you mean rectangular holes radiating from the centre and not teeth on the edge of the disk. If this is the case, slots indicate an optical system. The slots allow light to reach pass from the LED to the sensor. There were some systems which had teeth (as opposed to slots) to interrupt the light but as far as I know none of there had a double sensor.
Teeth on the edge of a disk usually indicate Hall effect. When the rotor plate gap is present between the Hall sensor and its accompanying magnet output signal is low. When there is NO rotor gap the output signal from the Hall sensor is high. The rotor plate teeth shunt the magnetic flux from the magnet in the Hall sensor back to the other side of the magnet preventing the Hall sensor chip receiving the magnetic flux.
If I could find your details on the register I’d give you a call. You could give me a call on 0425 316 464 if you like.
I don’t know of any system that used a combination of optical and Hall effect.
Good luck.
Tom Hanson
From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of plander@optusnet.com.au
Sent: Saturday, 15 January 2011 1:42 PM
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: Re: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] no news is good news??
I have no knowlege of Subaru, but it seems that you have hall and optical sensor for some reason. The easy way to try this would be to get another distributor. Maybe the guy at Mortdale has one?
Have you established whether it is a fuel or spark problem?
That has to be the starting point.
Phill
> Mr Scott Pitcher <spbconsulting@bigpond.com> wrote:
>
> Phill,
>
> Tried these guys and they were helpful but all they could diagnose was
> that I have a loose connection or a dirty connection.
>
> Went through all these blew all connections out with silicone spray and
> compressed air. There is one I want to change from the dizzy to the
> coil/ computer as it is open and was full of mud.
>
> But despite Australian Fuel Injection reconditioning my dizzy the car is
> still stuck in my garage not starting. They keep giving me this optical
> sensor that is wrong - my mechanic could see it clearly -so why cant
> they??
>
> My disc that spins in the dizzy has an outer row of many little slots
> plus separate 6 slots for the spark timing. The new sensors only have a
> sensor to pick up the inner 6 not the outer speed sensor.
>
> Anyway, back to the mechanic on Monday for more expenditure.
> Maybe a new dizzy is in order?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Skot
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: plander@optusnet.com.au
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 8:42 AM
> Subject: Re: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] no news is good news??
>
>
>
>
> Skot,
>
> Have you tried this place in Mortdale
>
> http://www.alldrivesubaroo.com.au/subaru_spare_parts.html
>
> They bring parts in from Japan and do mechanical repairs
>
> Phill
>
> > Mr Scott Pitcher <spbconsulting@bigpond.com> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks Roger.
> >
> > It seems that according to the Vancafe catalogue, the 84-85 models
> which
> > would have the 1.9L F/I motor had both an ignition control unit and
> a
> > halls sensor (similar to my subaru donk) but the later models - the
> part
> > is not listed and hence it must have been deleted from the ignition
> > system.
> >
> > The CAS or hall sensor is all pre-wired on a plate so it really
> should
> > not require modification.
> >
> > But if he fails to get a new one going we may need to look at the
> > wiring. What a pain in the .....!
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Skot
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Gullyraker@aol.com
> > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 11:53 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] no news is good news??
> >
> >
> >
> > Interesting, Skot -
> >
> > I bought a "genuine" Bosch unit p/n 1 237 010 039 from Vancafe about
>
> > a year ago, and when I fitted it discovered that there was a subtle
> > difference - from memory, I think there was an issue with the wiring
>
> > that needed a minor modification to make it work. With that, and the
> new
> > O2 sensor and injectors, the old girl runs sweet as a nut.
> >
> >
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Roger.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
----- Original Message -----From: BenSent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 7:12 PMSubject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] no news is good news??Skot,I was going to add last night,that if it runs on the old parts,then your looking at another issue.You have an after market ecu right,does it need to be earthed?Check that.Then be in contact with the manufacturer of the ECU.They will be more help than some 'suby experts' on your er27.Mechanics in Oz will say what is that?
When it breaks down do you have any spark?Do you have reds and are still able to crank over with starter?
Does it just cut out then nothing,or loose power then die?
Is the fuel pump controlled by the ecu?
Check all your earths and add some if you believe there isnt enough.
Check you battery terminals.
I know this all sounds too easy to be the problem,but chances are it is somthing real small,after all it has been running sweet as a suby in a vanagon(forgive the pun) for over ten years.
BenC
--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Mr Scott Pitcher" <spbconsulting@...> wrote:
>
> Tried both new sensors and both failed and it runs perfect on the old sensor. Took it for a drive and it broke down again.
>
> I will call these Scooby specialists in Sydney.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Skot
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: plander@...
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 8:42 AM
> Subject: Re: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] no news is good news??
>
>
>
>
> Skot,
>
> Have you tried this place in Mortdale
>
> http://www.alldrivesubaroo.com.au/subaru_spare_parts.html
>
> They bring parts in from Japan and do mechanical repairs
>
> Phill
>
> > Mr Scott Pitcher <spbconsulting@...> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks Roger.
> >
> > It seems that according to the Vancafe catalogue, the 84-85 models which
> > would have the 1.9L F/I motor had both an ignition control unit and a
> > halls sensor (similar to my subaru donk) but the later models - the part
> > is not listed and hence it must have been deleted from the ignition
> > system.
> >
> > The CAS or hall sensor is all pre-wired on a plate so it really should
> > not require modification.
> >
> > But if he fails to get a new one going we may need to look at the
> > wiring. What a pain in the .....!
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Skot
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Gullyraker@...
> > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 11:53 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] no news is good news??
> >
> >
> >
> > Interesting, Skot -
> >
> > I bought a "genuine" Bosch unit p/n 1 237 010 039 from Vancafe about
> > a year ago, and when I fitted it discovered that there was a subtle
> > difference - from memory, I think there was an issue with the wiring
> > that needed a minor modification to make it work. With that, and the new
> > O2 sensor and injectors, the old girl runs sweet as a nut.
> >
> >
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Roger.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 9:51 PM, Mr Scott Pitcher <spbconsulting@bigpond.com> wrote:
Hi all,My syncro is up and running again.We managed to get AFI to try and repair the Crank Angle Sensor instead of continually installing the wrong optical sensor in (3 x). They couldn't do it but managed to find one in their store in Melbourne.It was shipped up, put in today and the engine fired up immediately and purrs like a kitten again.Funny how one little sensor can kill an engine completely.Thanks go to all who helped especially Ben T who has sourced a very reasonably priced recoed distributor from Ebay USA. It is currently enroute -so then I should have two working distributors.But if I didn't buy the one from the US - they would never have been able to located the spare sensor here that matched.An extra part is better than having one big dud syncro.Cheers,SkotSent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 7:12 PMSubject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] no news is good news??Skot,I was going to add last night,that if it runs on the old parts,then your looking at another issue.You have an after market ecu right,does it need to be earthed?Check that.Then be in contact with the manufacturer of the ECU.They will be more help than some 'suby experts' on your er27.Mechanics in Oz will say what is that?
When it breaks down do you have any spark?Do you have reds and are still able to crank over with starter?
Does it just cut out then nothing,or loose power then die?
Is the fuel pump controlled by the ecu?
Check all your earths and add some if you believe there isnt enough.
Check you battery terminals.
I know this all sounds too easy to be the problem,but chances are it is somthing real small,after all it has been running sweet as a suby in a vanagon(forgive the pun) for over ten years.
BenC
--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Mr Scott Pitcher" <spbconsulting@...> wrote:
>
> Tried both new sensors and both failed and it runs perfect on the old sensor. Took it for a drive and it broke down again.
>
> I will call these Scooby specialists in Sydney.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Skot
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: plander@...
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 8:42 AM
> Subject: Re: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] no news is good news??
>
>
>
>
> Skot,
>
> Have you tried this place in Mortdale
>
> http://www.alldrivesubaroo.com.au/subaru_spare_parts.html
>
> They bring parts in from Japan and do mechanical repairs
>
> Phill
>
> > Mr Scott Pitcher <spbconsulting@...> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks Roger.
> >
> > It seems that according to the Vancafe catalogue, the 84-85 models which
> > would have the 1.9L F/I motor had both an ignition control unit and a
> > halls sensor (similar to my subaru donk) but the later models - the part
> > is not listed and hence it must have been deleted from the ignition
> > system.
> >
> > The CAS or hall sensor is all pre-wired on a plate so it really should
> > not require modification.
> >
> > But if he fails to get a new one going we may need to look at the
> > wiring. What a pain in the .....!
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Skot
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Gullyraker@...
> > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 11:53 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] no news is good news??
> >
> >
> >
> > Interesting, Skot -
> >
> > I bought a "genuine" Bosch unit p/n 1 237 010 039 from Vancafe about
> > a year ago, and when I fitted it discovered that there was a subtle
> > difference - from memory, I think there was an issue with the wiring
> > that needed a minor modification to make it work. With that, and the new
> > O2 sensor and injectors, the old girl runs sweet as a nut.
> >
> >
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Roger.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>