no news is good news??

1
Hey Skot,
Any news on your no run,no start problem?
2
Engine is running on my original crank angle sensor (hall sensor) but I don't trust it. The mechanic replaced it with a new sensor and it wouldn't start, he put my old one back in and it fired immediately.
 
He did that twice and decided that he got a dud sensor from the supplier.
 
Another one is due tomorrow.
 
We shall see how that goes.
 
At least it  works with my old one??
 
It actually may be the way it is wired???
 
I will let you know what happens - but at least its running well (just not trustworthy.
 
Looks like those going to Shallow Crossing will need their snorkels in good sealed order as they are predicting some potentially nasty intense rain plus some sun.
 
Cheers,
 
Skot
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Ben
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 7:06 PM
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] no news is good news??

 

Hey Skot,
Any news on your no run,no start problem?

3
Interesting, Skot -

  I bought a "genuine" Bosch unit p/n 1 237 010 039 from Vancafe about a year ago, and when I fitted it discovered that there was a subtle difference - from memory, I think there was an issue with the wiring that needed a minor modification to make it work. With that, and the new O2 sensor and injectors, the old girl runs sweet as a nut.

                                                                                                                                                                                                             Cheers, Roger.


4
Thanks Roger.
 
It seems that according to the Vancafe catalogue, the 84-85 models which would have the 1.9L F/I motor had both an ignition control unit and a halls sensor (similar to my subaru donk) but the later models - the part is not listed and hence it must have been deleted from the ignition system.
 
The CAS or hall sensor is all pre-wired on a plate so it really should not require modification.
 
But if he fails to get a new one going we may need to look at the wiring. What a pain in the .....!
 
Cheers,
 
Skot
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 11:53 PM
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] no news is good news??

 

Interesting, Skot -

  I bought a "genuine" Bosch unit p/n 1 237 010 039 from Vancafe about a year ago, and when I fitted it discovered that there was a subtle difference - from memory, I think there was an issue with the wiring that needed a minor modification to make it work. With that, and the new O2 sensor and injectors, the old girl runs sweet as a nut.

                                                                                                                                                                                                             Cheers, Roger.


5
I carry those ignition modules for t3's at less than $50.00 a kit,will stocks last at a good price they may be worth buying ...have got good stock....any t3 near 200k and over should replace this unit for reliability...can contact me on 0400356057 will ,post anywhere and wil;l slowly work on getting good deals for the syncro community re specific parts to suit ...not always best buying overseas...customer service and knowledge is free with me

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Mr Scott Pitcher" <spbconsulting@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks Roger.
>
> It seems that according to the Vancafe catalogue, the 84-85 models which would have the 1.9L F/I motor had both an ignition control unit and a halls sensor (similar to my subaru donk) but the later models - the part is not listed and hence it must have been deleted from the ignition system.
>
> The CAS or hall sensor is all pre-wired on a plate so it really should not require modification.
>
> But if he fails to get a new one going we may need to look at the wiring. What a pain in the .....!
>
> Cheers,
>
> Skot
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Gullyraker@...
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 11:53 PM
> Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] no news is good news??
>
>
>
> Interesting, Skot -
>
> I bought a "genuine" Bosch unit p/n 1 237 010 039 from Vancafe about a year ago, and when I fitted it discovered that there was a subtle difference - from memory, I think there was an issue with the wiring that needed a minor modification to make it work. With that, and the new O2 sensor and injectors, the old girl runs sweet as a nut.
>
> Cheers, Roger.
>
6
Thanks Steve.
 
My new ignition module is different to the VW one as it needs to run a different 6 Cyl donk to the standard 2.1Wbx and the new ignition module I bought last week is all good - it is my CAS or hall sensor that is the problem which is in my Subaru 6cyl distributor.
 
All going well it will be sorted out today.
 
Cheers,
 
Skot
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 8:05 AM
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: no news is good news??

 

I carry those ignition modules for t3's at less than $50.00 a kit,will stocks last at a good price they may be worth buying ...have got good stock....any t3 near 200k and over should replace this unit for reliability...can contact me on 0400356057 will ,post anywhere and wil;l slowly work on getting good deals for the syncro community re specific parts to suit ...not always best buying overseas...customer service and knowledge is free with me

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Mr Scott Pitcher" <spbconsulting@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks Roger.
>
> It seems that according to the Vancafe catalogue, the 84-85 models which would have the 1.9L F/I motor had both an ignition control unit and a halls sensor (similar to my subaru donk) but the later models - the part is not listed and hence it must have been deleted from the ignition system.
>
> The CAS or hall sensor is all pre-wired on a plate so it really should not require modification.
>
> But if he fails to get a new one going we may need to look at the wiring. What a pain in the .....!
>
> Cheers,
>
> Skot
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Gullyraker@...
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 11:53 PM
> Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] no news is good news??
>
>
>
> Interesting, Skot -
>
> I bought a "genuine" Bosch unit p/n 1 237 010 039 from Vancafe about a year ago, and when I fitted it discovered that there was a subtle difference - from memory, I think there was an issue with the wiring that needed a minor modification to make it work. With that, and the new O2 sensor and injectors, the old girl runs sweet as a nut.
>
> Cheers, Roger.
>

7
The 1.9 is Digijet and not sold in syncros here. They also do not have a cat.
The MV 2.1 is Digifant. Australian syncros are MVs.
They all have a hall sensor.



> Mr Scott Pitcher <spbconsulting@bigpond.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks Roger.
>
> It seems that according to the Vancafe catalogue, the 84-85 models which
> would have the 1.9L F/I motor had both an ignition control unit and a
> halls sensor (similar to my subaru donk) but the later models - the part
> is not listed and hence it must have been deleted from the ignition
> system.
>
> The CAS or hall sensor is all pre-wired on a plate so it really should
> not require modification.
>
> But if he fails to get a new one going we may need to look at the
> wiring. What a pain in the .....!
>
> Cheers,
>
> Skot
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Gullyraker@aol.com
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 11:53 PM
> Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] no news is good news??
>
>
>
> Interesting, Skot -
>
> I bought a "genuine" Bosch unit p/n 1 237 010 039 from Vancafe about
> a year ago, and when I fitted it discovered that there was a subtle
> difference - from memory, I think there was an issue with the wiring
> that needed a minor modification to make it work. With that, and the new
> O2 sensor and injectors, the old girl runs sweet as a nut.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
> Roger.
>
>
>
>
>
8
Skot,

Have you tried this place in Mortdale

http://www.alldrivesubaroo.com.au/subaru_spare_parts.html

They bring parts in from Japan and do mechanical repairs

Phill






> Mr Scott Pitcher <spbconsulting@bigpond.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks Roger.
>
> It seems that according to the Vancafe catalogue, the 84-85 models which
> would have the 1.9L F/I motor had both an ignition control unit and a
> halls sensor (similar to my subaru donk) but the later models - the part
> is not listed and hence it must have been deleted from the ignition
> system.
>
> The CAS or hall sensor is all pre-wired on a plate so it really should
> not require modification.
>
> But if he fails to get a new one going we may need to look at the
> wiring. What a pain in the .....!
>
> Cheers,
>
> Skot
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Gullyraker@aol.com
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 11:53 PM
> Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] no news is good news??
>
>
>
> Interesting, Skot -
>
> I bought a "genuine" Bosch unit p/n 1 237 010 039 from Vancafe about
> a year ago, and when I fitted it discovered that there was a subtle
> difference - from memory, I think there was an issue with the wiring
> that needed a minor modification to make it work. With that, and the new
> O2 sensor and injectors, the old girl runs sweet as a nut.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
> Roger.
>
>
>
>
>
9
Thanks Phill.
 
I have not tried them yet.
 
I will wait to see how we go today and give them a call if required.
 
I cant believe such a small insignificantly sized and fairly cheap part is causing such a problem.
 
Fingers crossed for a fix today.
 
I know about the Aussie engines - just thought it was strange VW used an ignition module for a series of engines then deleted it even though they all remained F/I. The hall sensors remained in both engines.
 
 
Cheers,
 
Skot
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 8:42 AM
Subject: Re: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] no news is good news??

 


Skot,

Have you tried this place in Mortdale

http://www.alldrivesubaroo.com.au/subaru_spare_parts.html

They bring parts in from Japan and do mechanical repairs

Phill

> Mr Scott Pitcher <spbconsulting@bigpond.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks Roger.
>
> It seems that according to the Vancafe catalogue, the 84-85 models which
> would have the 1.9L F/I motor had both an ignition control unit and a
> halls sensor (similar to my subaru donk) but the later models - the part
> is not listed and hence it must have been deleted from the ignition
> system.
>
> The CAS or hall sensor is all pre-wired on a plate so it really should
> not require modification.
>
> But if he fails to get a new one going we may need to look at the
> wiring. What a pain in the .....!
>
> Cheers,
>
> Skot
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Gullyraker@aol.com
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 11:53 PM
> Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] no news is good news??
>
>
>
> Interesting, Skot -
>
> I bought a "genuine" Bosch unit p/n 1 237 010 039 from Vancafe about
> a year ago, and when I fitted it discovered that there was a subtle
> difference - from memory, I think there was an issue with the wiring
> that needed a minor modification to make it work. With that, and the new
> O2 sensor and injectors, the old girl runs sweet as a nut.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
> Roger.
>
>
>
>
>

10
- just thought it was strange VW used an
> ignition module for a series of engines then deleted it even though they
> all remained F/I. The hall sensors remained in both engines.
>

Cost.

Cheaper to build the ignition module into the ECU as the newer engines evolved. The MV is a later engine. Most manufacturers have now done this.
11
Funny, my 93 corolla 1.8L twin cam F/I donk has a module and a coil attached to the body of the distributor.
 
Later Scooby engines just have the ECU and coil packs with no distributor at all so now distributors are redundant.
 
Pretty much everything in a modern engine is in the too hard basket for the NRMA to diagnose so that's why I like these older simpler engines with some electronics. Cant beat my old 71 model 1600 twin port - it has only 6 wires in the whole engine harness including the oil idiot light.
 
Although I bet the NRMA guys would still struggle if that broke down.
 
Skot
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 9:16 AM
Subject: Re: Re: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] no news is good news??

 



- just thought it was strange VW used an
> ignition module for a series of engines then deleted it even though they
> all remained F/I. The hall sensors remained in both engines.
>

Cost.

Cheaper to build the ignition module into the ECU as the newer engines evolved. The MV is a later engine. Most manufacturers have now done this.

12
The distributor has now been replaced by a crank angle sensor and an ECU. Instead of the distributor switching the high voltage, there is one coil per cylinder and the ECU switches the low tension. Electronics do not wear out as there is no moving parts or contacts to burn. Well that's the theory of it.

Phill



> Mr Scott Pitcher <spbconsulting@bigpond.com> wrote:
>
> Funny, my 93 corolla 1.8L twin cam F/I donk has a module and a coil
> attached to the body of the distributor.
>
> Later Scooby engines just have the ECU and coil packs with no
> distributor at all so now distributors are redundant.
>
> Pretty much everything in a modern engine is in the too hard basket for
> the NRMA to diagnose so that's why I like these older simpler engines
> with some electronics. Cant beat my old 71 model 1600 twin port - it has
> only 6 wires in the whole engine harness including the oil idiot light.
>
> Although I bet the NRMA guys would still struggle if that broke down.
>
> Skot
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: plander@optusnet.com.au
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 9:16 AM
> Subject: Re: Re: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] no news is good news??
>
>
>
>
>
> - just thought it was strange VW used an
> > ignition module for a series of engines then deleted it even though
> they
> > all remained F/I. The hall sensors remained in both engines.
> >
>
> Cost.
>
> Cheaper to build the ignition module into the ECU as the newer engines
> evolved. The MV is a later engine. Most manufacturers have now done
> this.
>
>
>
13
These electronics don't like heat that much though and that is what causes their premature demise I have been told by an ex-pert. Unfortunately engines seem to create lots of heat so failure of electronic components is very possible at any stage of their life.
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 10:08 AM
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] no news is good news??

 

The distributor has now been replaced by a crank angle sensor and an ECU. Instead of the distributor switching the high voltage, there is one coil per cylinder and the ECU switches the low tension. Electronics do not wear out as there is no moving parts or contacts to burn. Well that's the theory of it.

Phill

> Mr Scott Pitcher <spbconsulting@bigpond.com> wrote:
>
> Funny, my 93 corolla 1.8L twin cam F/I donk has a module and a coil
> attached to the body of the distributor.
>
> Later Scooby engines just have the ECU and coil packs with no
> distributor at all so now distributors are redundant.
>
> Pretty much everything in a modern engine is in the too hard basket for
> the NRMA to diagnose so that's why I like these older simpler engines
> with some electronics. Cant beat my old 71 model 1600 twin port - it has
> only 6 wires in the whole engine harness including the oil idiot light.
>
> Although I bet the NRMA guys would still struggle if that broke down.
>
> Skot
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: plander@optusnet.com.au
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 9:16 AM
> Subject: Re: Re: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] no news is good news??
>
>
>
>
>
> - just thought it was strange VW used an
> > ignition module for a series of engines then deleted it even though
> they
> > all remained F/I. The hall sensors remained in both engines.
> >
>
> Cost.
>
> Cheaper to build the ignition module into the ECU as the newer engines
> evolved. The MV is a later engine. Most manufacturers have now done
> this.
>
>
>

14
Tried both new sensors and both failed and it runs perfect on the old sensor. Took it for a drive and it broke down again.
 
I will call these Scooby specialists in Sydney.
 
Cheers,
 
Skot
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 8:42 AM
Subject: Re: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] no news is good news??

 


Skot,

Have you tried this place in Mortdale

http://www.alldrivesubaroo.com.au/subaru_spare_parts.html

They bring parts in from Japan and do mechanical repairs

Phill

> Mr Scott Pitcher <spbconsulting@bigpond.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks Roger.
>
> It seems that according to the Vancafe catalogue, the 84-85 models which
> would have the 1.9L F/I motor had both an ignition control unit and a
> halls sensor (similar to my subaru donk) but the later models - the part
> is not listed and hence it must have been deleted from the ignition
> system.
>
> The CAS or hall sensor is all pre-wired on a plate so it really should
> not require modification.
>
> But if he fails to get a new one going we may need to look at the
> wiring. What a pain in the .....!
>
> Cheers,
>
> Skot
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Gullyraker@aol.com
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 11:53 PM
> Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] no news is good news??
>
>
>
> Interesting, Skot -
>
> I bought a "genuine" Bosch unit p/n 1 237 010 039 from Vancafe about
> a year ago, and when I fitted it discovered that there was a subtle
> difference - from memory, I think there was an issue with the wiring
> that needed a minor modification to make it work. With that, and the new
> O2 sensor and injectors, the old girl runs sweet as a nut.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
> Roger.
>
>
>
>
>

15
Skot,I was going to add last night,that if it runs on the old parts,then your looking at another issue.You have an after market ecu right,does it need to be earthed?Check that.Then be in contact with the manufacturer of the ECU.They will be more help than some 'suby experts' on your er27.Mechanics in Oz will say what is that?
When it breaks down do you have any spark?Do you have reds and are still able to crank over with starter?
Does it just cut out then nothing,or loose power then die?
Is the fuel pump controlled by the ecu?
Check all your earths and add some if you believe there isnt enough.
Check you battery terminals.
I know this all sounds too easy to be the problem,but chances are it is somthing real small,after all it has been running sweet as a suby in a vanagon(forgive the pun) for over ten years.
BenC


--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Mr Scott Pitcher" <spbconsulting@...> wrote:
>
> Tried both new sensors and both failed and it runs perfect on the old sensor. Took it for a drive and it broke down again.
>
> I will call these Scooby specialists in Sydney.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Skot
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: plander@...
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 8:42 AM
> Subject: Re: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] no news is good news??
>
>
>
>
> Skot,
>
> Have you tried this place in Mortdale
>
> http://www.alldrivesubaroo.com.au/subaru_spare_parts.html
>
> They bring parts in from Japan and do mechanical repairs
>
> Phill
>
> > Mr Scott Pitcher <spbconsulting@...> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks Roger.
> >
> > It seems that according to the Vancafe catalogue, the 84-85 models which
> > would have the 1.9L F/I motor had both an ignition control unit and a
> > halls sensor (similar to my subaru donk) but the later models - the part
> > is not listed and hence it must have been deleted from the ignition
> > system.
> >
> > The CAS or hall sensor is all pre-wired on a plate so it really should
> > not require modification.
> >
> > But if he fails to get a new one going we may need to look at the
> > wiring. What a pain in the .....!
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Skot
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Gullyraker@...
> > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 11:53 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] no news is good news??
> >
> >
> >
> > Interesting, Skot -
> >
> > I bought a "genuine" Bosch unit p/n 1 237 010 039 from Vancafe about
> > a year ago, and when I fitted it discovered that there was a subtle
> > difference - from memory, I think there was an issue with the wiring
> > that needed a minor modification to make it work. With that, and the new
> > O2 sensor and injectors, the old girl runs sweet as a nut.
> >
> >
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Roger.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
16
Ben,
 
The distributor seems a bit odd and still the cause as when the mechanic puts an LED strobe on the power from the sensor it seems to get the engine working. Maybe this shorts something out or bypasses something.
 
Anyway, what happened to him was he puts the new sensor on - it doesn't work (even though it is a matching part # it ha been superseded 3 x - its 20 years old now) so it has the optical sensor above but it doesn't seem to have one at the back of the sensor like the old one.
 
Then he installs the old one puts the LED strobe on and it starts. This LED strobe whilst it does slightly earth it is a very weak earth and would not be sufficient to override a normal earth.
 
The problem is strange it has full power and idles, purrs, doesn't miss a beat then suddenly it cuts out completely. The mechanic said he was giving it a fair bit when it cut out on him - he didn't realise how much power it had in the higher revs. He towed it back, put the strobe on and it fired up again.
 
When it does die it will crank over (has a brand new ignition switch in the steering column) at full starter speed, all power lights on the dash work as normal, the computer lights up, engine bay monitor lights up as well - but no spark at all. The coil is getting power but is not switching. The fuel pump is controlled by the ignition switch I think as it will pump (you can hear it) as soon as the ignition is switched on. This still pumps.
 
So this arvo, I managed to drive the car home under its own steam with the mechanic following and get it in my garage (out of his way as he has limited room and another 4 non working kombis to get in his shed). He then removed the distributor and will send it down to AFI in Sydney for a rebuild which they said they have done several of. They have the best testing equipment to ensure it works 100% before it leaves.
 
I will call Microtech tomorrow and see if they have seen a similar problem or could diagnose it as I have the computer reader in the car.
 
We have checked what we think is all the earths but I guess you never know. Now I have the syncro back in my garage I will get under it and check everything I can again. Still very muddy from the Plommer Rd adventure under there so I will probably wear a fair bit of nth coast mud.
 
I will report back if I find anything.
 
Cheers,
 
Skot
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Ben
Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 7:12 PM
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] no news is good news??

 

Skot,I was going to add last night,that if it runs on the old parts,then your looking at another issue.You have an after market ecu right,does it need to be earthed?Check that.Then be in contact with the manufacturer of the ECU.They will be more help than some 'suby experts' on your er27.Mechanics in Oz will say what is that?
When it breaks down do you have any spark?Do you have reds and are still able to crank over with starter?
Does it just cut out then nothing,or loose power then die?
Is the fuel pump controlled by the ecu?
Check all your earths and add some if you believe there isnt enough.
Check you battery terminals.
I know this all sounds too easy to be the problem,but chances are it is somthing real small,after all it has been running sweet as a suby in a vanagon(forgive the pun) for over ten years.
BenC

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Mr Scott Pitcher" <spbconsulting@...> wrote:
>
> Tried both new sensors and both failed and it runs perfect on the old sensor. Took it for a drive and it broke down again.
>
> I will call these Scooby specialists in Sydney.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Skot
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: plander@...
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 8:42 AM
> Subject: Re: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] no news is good news??
>
>
>
>
> Skot,
>
> Have you tried this place in Mortdale
>
> http://www.alldrivesubaroo.com.au/subaru_spare_parts.html
>
> They bring parts in from Japan and do mechanical repairs
>
> Phill
>
> > Mr Scott Pitcher <spbconsulting@...> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks Roger.
> >
> > It seems that according to the Vancafe catalogue, the 84-85 models which
> > would have the 1.9L F/I motor had both an ignition control unit and a
> > halls sensor (similar to my subaru donk) but the later models - the part
> > is not listed and hence it must have been deleted from the ignition
> > system.
> >
> > The CAS or hall sensor is all pre-wired on a plate so it really should
> > not require modification.
> >
> > But if he fails to get a new one going we may need to look at the
> > wiring. What a pain in the .....!
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Skot
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Gullyraker@...
> > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 11:53 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] no news is good news??
> >
> >
> >
> > Interesting, Skot -
> >
> > I bought a "genuine" Bosch unit p/n 1 237 010 039 from Vancafe about
> > a year ago, and when I fitted it discovered that there was a subtle
> > difference - from memory, I think there was an issue with the wiring
> > that needed a minor modification to make it work. With that, and the new
> > O2 sensor and injectors, the old girl runs sweet as a nut.
> >
> >
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Roger.
> >
> >
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BenT--- as always your solid advice is surely backed by neverending wisdom --- this is more then just pure knowledge, to me you are the Syncro Einstein fullstop Hartis
 
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
From: bencroft96@yahoo.com
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 08:12:34 +0000
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] no news is good news??

 
Skot,I was going to add last night,that if it runs on the old parts,then your looking at another issue.You have an after market ecu right,does it need to be earthed?Check that.Then be in contact with the manufacturer of the ECU.They will be more help than some 'suby experts' on your er27.Mechanics in Oz will say what is that?
When it breaks down do you have any spark?Do you have reds and are still able to crank over with starter?
Does it just cut out then nothing,or loose power then die?
Is the fuel pump controlled by the ecu?
Check all your earths and add some if you believe there isnt enough.
Check you battery terminals.
I know this all sounds too easy to be the problem,but chances are it is somthing real small,after all it has been running sweet as a suby in a vanagon(forgive the pun) for over ten years.
BenC

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Mr Scott Pitcher" <spbconsulting@...> wrote:
>
> Tried both new sensors and both failed and it runs perfect on the old sensor. Took it for a drive and it broke down again.
>
> I will call these Scooby specialists in Sydney.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Skot
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: plander@...
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 8:42 AM
> Subject: Re: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] no news is good news??
>
>
>
>
> Skot,
>
> Have you tried this place in Mortdale
>
> http://www.alldrivesubaroo.com.au/subaru_spare_parts.html
>
> They bring parts in from Japan and do mechanical repairs
>
> Phill
>
> > Mr Scott Pitcher <spbconsulting@...> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks Roger.
> >
> > It seems that according to the Vancafe catalogue, the 84-85 models which
> > would have the 1.9L F/I motor had both an ignition control unit and a
> > halls sensor (similar to my subaru donk) but the later models - the part
> > is not listed and hence it must have been deleted from the ignition
> > system.
> >
> > The CAS or hall sensor is all pre-wired on a plate so it really should
> > not require modification.
> >
> > But if he fails to get a new one going we may need to look at the
> > wiring. What a pain in the .....!
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Skot
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Gullyraker@...
> > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 11:53 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] no news is good news??
> >
> >
> >
> > Interesting, Skot -
> >
> > I bought a "genuine" Bosch unit p/n 1 237 010 039 from Vancafe about
> > a year ago, and when I fitted it discovered that there was a subtle
> > difference - from memory, I think there was an issue with the wiring
> > that needed a minor modification to make it work. With that, and the new
> > O2 sensor and injectors, the old girl runs sweet as a nut.
> >
> >
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Roger.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>


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Hi Skot - as I recall the wiring problem wasn't a big issue I think it was something to do with how the wires exited through the distributor body or how the wiring plug fitted on the outside of the distributor. I'll have a look at my engine tomorrow to see if it jogs my memory. Maybe a good snort of carby cleaner will spark up the neurones.

  I noticed that JustKampers are now selling these units for a very reasonable price. Everyone should grab one to stick it under the seat for Ron.

Cheers, Roger.

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Not only don't they like heat, but they don't like dust, water or vibration either. I remember a trip over the corrugations in my old T2 - nothing electronic was working at the end of it all, but the old 1600 kombi was still chugging along ...

  It's a good thing I wasn't wearing a pacemaker.

       Roger.

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I'd love to claim credit, Hartis but that advice is from BenC not BenT.;-)


Sent from by me

On Jan 12, 2011, at 1:34 AM, Hartmut Kiehn <hartis@live.com.au> wrote:

BenT--- as always your solid advice is surely backed by neverending wisdom --- this is more then just pure knowledge, to me you are the Syncro Einstein fullstop Hartis
 
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
From: bencroft96@yahoo.com
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 08:12:34 +0000
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] no news is good news??

 
Skot,I was going to add last night,that if it runs on the old parts,then your looking at another issue.You have an after market ecu right,does it need to be earthed?Check that.Then be in contact with the manufacturer of the ECU.They will be more help than some 'suby experts' on your er27.Mechanics in Oz will say what is that?
When it breaks down do you have any spark?Do you have reds and are still able to crank over with starter?
Does it just cut out then nothing,or loose power then die?
Is the fuel pump controlled by the ecu?
Check all your earths and add some if you believe there isnt enough.
Check you battery terminals.
I know this all sounds too easy to be the problem,but chances are it is somthing real small,after all it has been running sweet as a suby in a vanagon(forgive the pun) for over ten years.
BenC

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Mr Scott Pitcher" <spbconsulting@...> wrote:
>
> Tried both new sensors and both failed and it runs perfect on the old sensor. Took it for a drive and it broke down again.
>
> I will call these Scooby specialists in Sydney.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Skot
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: plander@...
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 8:42 AM
> Subject: Re: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] no news is good news??
>
>
>
>
> Skot,
>
> Have you tried this place in Mortdale
>
> http://www.alldrivesubaroo.com.au/subaru_spare_parts.html
>
> They bring parts in from Japan and do mechanical repairs
>
> Phill
>
> > Mr Scott Pitcher <spbconsulting@...> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks Roger.
> >
> > It seems that according to the Vancafe catalogue, the 84-85 models which
> > would have the 1.9L F/I motor had both an ignition control unit and a
> > halls sensor (similar to my subaru donk) but the later models - the part
> > is not listed and hence it must have been deleted from the ignition
> > system.
> >
> > The CAS or hall sensor is all pre-wired on a plate so it really should
> > not require modification.
> >
> > But if he fails to get a new one going we may need to look at the
> > wiring. What a pain in the .....!
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Skot
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Gullyraker@...
> > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 11:53 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] no news is good news??
> >
> >
> >
> > Interesting, Skot -
> >
> > I bought a "genuine" Bosch unit p/n 1 237 010 039 from Vancafe about
> > a year ago, and when I fitted it discovered that there was a subtle
> > difference - from memory, I think there was an issue with the wiring
> > that needed a minor modification to make it work. With that, and the new
> > O2 sensor and injectors, the old girl runs sweet as a nut.
> >
> >
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Roger.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>