If the cooler springs a coolant leak, in an emergency you can just remove it and patch it with solder, or join the two hoses together to get you out of trouble. [The cooler is not essential except when the vehicle is working hard in hot weather - the early wasserboxers with the 1.9 motor didn't have them at all]. To remove the cooler altogether you would need to replace the threaded union that the oil filter screws on to with a shorter one, which is common to many vehicles and should be easy to find at Repco or a wreckers. Then you could simply screw the oil filter back on and toss the oil cooler over your left shoulder.
If you get stuck for a new cooler, I haven't used mine yet - you can use it and replace it later. I'm at Goulburn, just off the Hume Highway [on the way to Tassie]. Let me know.
Cheers, Roger [Beetle] Bayley.
--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, Gullyraker@... wrote:
>
> Hi Greg - I bought oil an oil cooler for my mate's car from Tooleys less
> than a year ago, it cost well under a hundred bucks. When I tried to buy one
> for myself about six months ago they were out of stock so I got one from
> VanCafe, which cost about AU$80 plus freight.
>
> If the cooler springs a coolant leak, in an emergency you can just remove
> it and patch it with solder, or join the two hoses together to get you out
> of trouble. [The cooler is not essential except when the vehicle is working
> hard in hot weather - the early wasserboxers with the 1.9 motor didn't have
> them at all]. To remove the cooler altogether you would need to replace the
> threaded union that the oil filter screws on to with a shorter one, which is
> common to many vehicles and should be easy to find at Repco or a wreckers.
> Then you could simply screw the oil filter back on and toss the oil cooler
> over your left shoulder.
>
> If you get stuck for a new cooler, I haven't used mine yet - you can use it
> and replace it later. I'm at Goulburn, just off the Hume Highway [on the
> way to Tassie]. Let me know.
>
> Cheers, Roger [Beetle] Bayley.
>
Steve,
That is very valuable information. It certainly indicates that it would be unwise to by-pass the existing cooler, particularly in summer conditions.
As a matter of interest, what form of cooler was fitted to the Oettinger and where was it located<
Les
From:
Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of stehenmullervw
Sent: 28 December 2010 09:22
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re:
Oil cooler
Hi Roger , you are correct, the 1.9 didnt use a cooler for that size
engine.....but a 2.1 needs a cooler,when we did factory exchange engines we
often fitted 2.1 in place of the 1.9's but noticed oil consumption
increased...all the oettinger 2.5's had an external cooler fitted with a thermo
fan to reduce oil consumption under load...this is a more costly exercise
compared to fitting a std cooler.Fitting an oil temp guage will tell a story
too.....all the very best roger for the season too...catch up soon...ps there
is a trip organised in July with a few buses to the simpson will keep you
informed if your interested
_._,___
I should have stressed that it isn't advisable to remove the oil cooler except in an emergency [when it springs a leak], and then only temporarily. Without it the engine should not be worked too hard.
The trip to the Simpson sounds like it might be a goer - let me know.
I always thought that Toyota had a pretty lame claim to being the first vehicle to cross the Simpson the hard way - from east to west - when they couldn't have done it without the support of a Syncro to carry the fuel. Technically it must have come "second" because it was a few yards behind them all the way ...
Did you ever put together that video about old Kombi adventures? I'd like to see that!
All the best for the New Year, Roger.
Hartmut
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
From: Gullyraker@aol.com
Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2010 17:48:09 -0500
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Oil cooler
I should have stressed that it isn't advisable to remove the oil cooler except in an emergency [when it springs a leak], and then only temporarily. Without it the engine should not be worked too hard.
The trip to the Simpson sounds like it might be a goer - let me know.
I always thought that Toyota had a pretty lame claim to being the first vehicle to cross the Simpson the hard way - from east to west - when they couldn't have done it without the support of a Syncro to carry the fuel. Technically it must have come "second" because it was a few yards behind them all the way ...
Did you ever put together that video about old Kombi adventures? I'd like to see that!
All the best for the New Year, Roger.
Hartmut
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
From: leslieharris@optusnet.com.au
Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2010 09:38:22 +1100
Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Oil cooler
Steve,
That is very valuable information. It certainly indicates that it would be unwise to by-pass the existing cooler, particularly in summer conditions.
As a matter of interest, what form of cooler was fitted to the Oettinger and where was it located<
Les
From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of stehenmullervw
Sent: 28 December 2010 09:22
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Oil cooler
Hi Roger , you are correct, the 1.9 didnt use a cooler for that size engine.....but a 2.1 needs a cooler,when we did factory exchange engines we often fitted 2.1 in place of the 1.9's but noticed oil consumption increased...all the oettinger 2.5's had an external cooler fitted with a thermo fan to reduce oil consumption under load...this is a more costly exercise compared to fitting a std cooler.Fitting an oil temp guage will tell a story too.....all the very best roger for the season too...catch up soon...ps there is a trip organised in July with a few buses to the simpson will keep you informed if your interested
_._,___
Hartmut,
Ah, a front cooler location. The cooler capacity plus the hoses would have added a useful volume. The greater the volume, the better the heat sink. Did the original cooler stay in place?
You mention switches; what were they for? I presume that the fan was controlled by a thermostatic switch, so I can’t think what switches might do.
If you have any problem with the pics, email them direct to me and I will post them for you.
Les
From:
Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Hartmut Kiehn
Sent: 28 December 2010 10:08
To: wendyand brian
Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia]
Re: Oil cooler
Hi Les, I
have a complete installation which, years back, I had bought from Bernd Jaeger.
I will do some photos and try and send them to you. All the fittings ,
hoses to the front of the vehicle, oilcooler, switches etc all is there.
Hartmut
Sorry, no switches, just had a look, relais and stuff are for the intercooler. All this was for the TDI installation which hasn"t happened, as so many other projects in my life.
And no need to post the pics unless someone wants to have a look what the cooler looks like, because if I sell, I would like to sell the lot incl. engine (non computer) etc.
Hartmut
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
From: leslieharris@optusnet.com.au
Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2010 10:21:56 +1100
Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Oil cooler
Hartmut,
Ah, a front cooler location. The cooler capacity plus the hoses would have added a useful volume. The greater the volume, the better the heat sink. Did the original cooler stay in place?
You mention switches; what were they for? I presume that the fan was controlled by a thermostatic switch, so I can’t think what switches might do.
If you have any problem with the pics, email them direct to me and I will post them for you.
Les
From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Hartmut Kiehn
Sent: 28 December 2010 10:08
To: wendyand brian
Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Oil cooler
Hartmut
--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Les Harris" <leslieharris@...> wrote:
>
> Hartmut,
>
> Ah, a front cooler location. The cooler capacity plus the hoses would have
> added a useful volume. The greater the volume, the better the heat sink.
> Did the original cooler stay in place?
>
> You mention switches; what were they for? I presume that the fan was
> controlled by a thermostatic switch, so I can't think what switches might
> do.
>
> If you have any problem with the pics, email them direct to me and I will
> post them for you.
>
> Les
>
> _____
>
> From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Hartmut Kiehn
> Sent: 28 December 2010 10:08
> To: wendyand brian
> Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Oil cooler
>
> Hi Les, I have a complete installation which, years back, I had bought from
> Bernd Jaeger. I will do some photos and try and send them to you. All the
> fittings , hoses to the front of the vehicle, oilcooler, switches etc all is
> there.
> Hartmut
>
Do you know or remember Ken Virgin , and Glen, his son ??
Very fascinating write up in VWMA issue 27
Hartmut
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
From: leslieharris@optusnet.com.au
Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2010 10:21:56 +1100
Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Oil cooler
Hartmut,
Ah, a front cooler location. The cooler capacity plus the hoses would have added a useful volume. The greater the volume, the better the heat sink. Did the original cooler stay in place?
You mention switches; what were they for? I presume that the fan was controlled by a thermostatic switch, so I can’t think what switches might do.
If you have any problem with the pics, email them direct to me and I will post them for you.
Les
From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Hartmut Kiehn
Sent: 28 December 2010 10:08
To: wendyand brian
Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Oil cooler
Hartmut
Excuse me for piggybacking on the oil cooler debate, but we are
driving up the Fume Highway and I have a query. We have had an
intermittent buzzing noise in the dash for a while which we are now
fairly certain is the speedo cable. My question: why does it happen
only after we have been driving along for a while at speed? Also, is
it tricky/costly to fix? Otherwise she is running nicely, although
given that it's school holidays I am heavily touching wood....
Francesca.
On 12/28/10, Hartmut Kiehn <hartis@live.com.au> wrote:
>
> Les
>
> Do you know or remember Ken Virgin , and Glen, his son ??
> Very fascinating write up in VWMA issue 27
>
> Hartmut
>
>
>
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> From: leslieharris@optusnet.com.au
> Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2010 10:21:56 +1100
> Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Oil cooler
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hartmut,
> Ah, a front cooler location. The cooler capacity plus the hoses would have
> added a useful volume. The greater the volume, the better the heat sink.
> Did the original cooler stay in place?
> You mention switches; what were they for? I presume that the fan was
> controlled by a thermostatic switch, so I can’t think what switches might
> do.
> If you have any problem with the pics, email them direct to me and I will
> post them for you.
> Les
>
>
>
>
> From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Hartmut Kiehn
> Sent: 28 December 2010 10:08
> To: wendyand brian
> Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Oil cooler
>
>
>
> Hi Les, I have a complete installation which, years back, I had bought from
> Bernd Jaeger. I will do some photos and try and send them to you. All the
> fittings , hoses to the front of the vehicle, oilcooler, switches etc all is
> there.
> Hartmut
>
>
>
>
Steve,
Ca you help Francesca with this one?
The only buzzer (i.e. a buzzer as distinct from a buzzing sound) is the oil pressure warning.
The speedo drive cable is a snap fit to the back of the speedo and is either engaged or not, so that doesn’t sound likely.
Any ideas?
Les
-----Original Message-----
From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
[mailto: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com ]
On Behalf Of Francesca Coles
Sent: 28 December 2010 11:57
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Oil cooler
Hi all,
Excuse me for piggybacking on the oil cooler debate, but we are
driving up the Fume Highway and I have a query. We have had an
intermittent buzzing noise in the dash for a while which we are now
fairly certain is the speedo cable. My question: why does it happen
only after we have been driving along for a while at speed? Also, is
it tricky/costly to fix? Otherwise she is running nicely, although
given that it's school holidays I am heavily touching wood....
Francesca.
Hartmut,
No, I don’t know them. I will have a look at the VWMA
Les
From:
Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Hartmut Kiehn
Sent: 28 December 2010 11:23
To: wendyand brian
Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia]
Re: Oil cooler
Les
Do you know or remember Ken Virgin , and Glen, his son ??
Very fascinating write up in VWMA issue 27
Hartmut
If you are certain it is not the oil warning buzzer and it is the speedo cable proceed as follows. Unclip the instrument cover by pulling up on the forward (front of car) edge and pivot on rear edge untill released. Reach behind the speedo and push down the white plastic tongue on the speedo cable and pull it out. Hold the end up and pour in a couple of mls of engine oil or similar. Refit in reverse. That said it sounds like the dynamic oil pressure buzzer. I know you had Lloyd look at this a while back, I think you mentioned new switches? Do you have a genuine/Mann oil filter fitted? What grade of oil? I hope you have a great holiday and don't spend too much time keeping those three lads of yours in check. Greg E--- On Tue, 28/12/10, Francesca Coles <fcoles6@gmail.com> wrote: |
When it buzzes again, stop the car and let it idle, there should be no buzz. Rev the engine to about 3000 revs and see what happens.
If you have any problems near Sydney, I live near the M5 toll both.
Phill
> Francesca Coles <fcoles6@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> Excuse me for piggybacking on the oil cooler debate, but we are
> driving up the Fume Highway and I have a query. We have had an
> intermittent buzzing noise in the dash for a while which we are now
> fairly certain is the speedo cable. My question: why does it happen
> only after we have been driving along for a while at speed? Also, is
> it tricky/costly to fix? Otherwise she is running nicely, although
> given that it's school holidays I am heavily touching wood....
> Francesca.
>
> On 12/28/10, Hartmut Kiehn <hartis@live.com.au> wrote:
> >
> > Les
> >
> > Do you know or remember Ken Virgin , and Glen, his son ??
> > Very fascinating write up in VWMA issue 27
> >
> > Hartmut
> >
> >
> >
> > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > From: leslieharris@optusnet.com.au
> > Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2010 10:21:56 +1100
> > Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Oil cooler
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hartmut,
> > Ah, a front cooler location. The cooler capacity plus the hoses would
> have
> > added a useful volume. The greater the volume, the better the heat
> sink.
> > Did the original cooler stay in place?
> > You mention switches; what were they for? I presume that the fan was
> > controlled by a thermostatic switch, so I can���t think what switches
> might
> > do.
> > If you have any problem with the pics, email them direct to me and I
> will
> > post them for you.
> > Les
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Hartmut
> Kiehn
> > Sent: 28 December 2010 10:08
> > To: wendyand brian
> > Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Oil cooler
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Les, I have a complete installation which, years back, I had bought
> from
> > Bernd Jaeger. I will do some photos and try and send them to you. All
> the
> > fittings , hoses to the front of the vehicle, oilcooler, switches etc
> all is
> > there.
> > Hartmut
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
I couldn't find it the article I was looking for, so maybe my memory is at fault - do others recall this event?
I did find an article from October 1989 featuring an east-west crossing by two HJ60 Landcruisers, a red Tristar dual-cab [rego PPC 097] which carried 30 jerry-cans of fuel, and a white syncro camper [NSW rego POZ 217]. The expedition was organised by "Australian Outback 4 Wheel Drive Company" to test the capability of the VW's, which passed with flying colours. The only problem was a couple of spat fan belts which prompted the company to order belt-guards.
If any one is interested, and the article has not already been scanned elsewhere, I could do so.
Cheers, Roger.
Was that your Tristar Hart?
> Gullyraker@aol.com wrote:
>
> G'day Hart - I looked back through my files to find the write-up from
> "Overlander" magazine on the first east-west crossing of the Simpson
> desert by
> vehicle, which as I recall was sponsored by Toyota and hailed as a big
> deal at
> the time.
>
> I couldn't find it the article I was looking for, so maybe my memory
> is
> at fault - do others recall this event?
>
> I did find an article from October 1989 featuring an east-west
> crossing
> by two HJ60 Landcruisers, a red Tristar dual-cab [rego PPC 097] which
> carried
> 30 jerry-cans of fuel, and a white syncro camper [NSW rego POZ 217]. The
>
> expedition was organised by "Australian Outback 4 Wheel Drive Company"
> to test
> the capability of the VW's, which passed with flying colours. The only
> problem was a couple of spat fan belts which prompted the company to
> order
> belt-guards.
>
> If any one is interested, and the article has not already been scanned
>
> elsewhere, I could do so.
>
> Cheers, Roger.
>
> Was that your Tristar Hart?
I wasn't 100% sure but then again only one Tristar came to Oz and only one red one anyway.
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
From: plander@optusnet.com.au
Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2010 18:17:49 +1100
Subject: Re: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Oil cooler
> Gullyraker@aol.com wrote:
>
> G'day Hart - I looked back through my files to find the write-up from
> "Overlander" magazine on the first east-west crossing of the Simpson
> desert by
> vehicle, which as I recall was sponsored by Toyota and hailed as a big
> deal at
> the time.
>
> I couldn't find it the article I was looking for, so maybe my memory
> is
> at fault - do others recall this event?
>
> I did find an article from October 1989 featuring an east-west
> crossing
> by two HJ60 Landcruisers, a red Tristar dual-cab [rego PPC 097] which
> carried
> 30 jerry-cans of fuel, and a white syncro camper [NSW rego POZ 217]. The
>
> expedition was organised by "Australian Outback 4 Wheel Drive Company"
> to test
> the capability of the VW's, which passed with flying colours. The only
> problem was a couple of spat fan belts which prompted the company to
> order
> belt-guards.
>
> If any one is interested, and the article has not already been scanned
>
> elsewhere, I could do so.
>
> Cheers, Roger.
>
> Was that your Tristar Hart?