Oil Pressure Buzzer working

1
Hello Syncronauts,

We just got home from our Queensland holiday. On our return journey, we wanted to see what's left of the recent Queensland floods. So, we followed the road along the Darling River from Burke to Wentworth.
Still a bit of water around and we saw the Paroo River actually flowing quite fast,like a mountain stream.
Anyway, driving along this noisy gravel road towards Wilcannia, all of a sudden, a screaming noise. What the hell is going on?! It took me a second to realise that it must be the oil pressure alarm, people talked about. Engine off, stopped the van, walked to the back and oh boy, what a mess, oil sprayed everywhere, oil dripping from the engine, too hot to have a closer look. Let it cool down a bit, open the engine bay oil everywhere. Clean down the engine to better see where the oil is dripping from. Then I realise, to my relief, it is only a punctured oil filter. I had a spare one on board but not enough spare oil. A friendly farmer helped us out with some oil but still not enough. I removed the distributer cap to see if the engine still turns over and that was ok.
So, off we went slowly to Wilcannia.
But that was not all. We had another exciting drive. On the road from Menindee to Pooncarie, some of the Syncronauts would know this road.
After leaving Menindee it started to rain a bit but it turned the road
into an ice skating ring, driving sideways most of the time. The one hour drive turned into a three hour night-mare.

Some more observations on this trip.
Most of the country towns have well set up Information Centres,
LPG price in Wilcannia $1.08. Petrol $1.60
In the town centre of Ouyen, is a bakery which makes yummy cakes and the famous JK approved vanilla slice!
In the Hattah Kulkyne NP, some of the lakes got water pumped in.

Cheers
Theo & Christine
2
Sounds like a fantastic trip Theo (except for the oil filter incident - lucky you had a spare).
 
Post some photos if you get the chance - to really rub it in!
 
Cheers,
 
Skot
 
----- Original Message -----
From: theoweiss
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 8:42 PM
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Oil Pressure Buzzer working

 

Hello Syncronauts,

We just got home from our Queensland holiday. On our return journey, we wanted to see what's left of the recent Queensland floods. So, we followed the road along the Darling River from Burke to Wentworth.
Still a bit of water around and we saw the Paroo River actually flowing quite fast,like a mountain stream.
Anyway, driving along this noisy gravel road towards Wilcannia, all of a sudden, a screaming noise. What the hell is going on?! It took me a second to realise that it must be the oil pressure alarm, people talked about. Engine off, stopped the van, walked to the back and oh boy, what a mess, oil sprayed everywhere, oil dripping from the engine, too hot to have a closer look. Let it cool down a bit, open the engine bay oil everywhere. Clean down the engine to better see where the oil is dripping from. Then I realise, to my relief, it is only a punctured oil filter. I had a spare one on board but not enough spare oil. A friendly farmer helped us out with some oil but still not enough. I removed the distributer cap to see if the engine still turns over and that was ok.
So, off we went slowly to Wilcannia.
But that was not all. We had another exciting drive. On the road from Menindee to Pooncarie, some of the Syncronauts would know this road.
After leaving Menindee it started to rain a bit but it turned the road
into an ice skating ring, driving sideways most of the time. The one hour drive turned into a three hour night-mare.

Some more observations on this trip.
Most of the country towns have well set up Information Centres,
LPG price in Wilcannia $1.08. Petrol $1.60
In the town centre of Ouyen, is a bakery which makes yummy cakes and the famous JK approved vanilla slice!
In the Hattah Kulkyne NP, some of the lakes got water pumped in.

Cheers
Theo & Christine

3
the skid plate in not bolted in place ?
there is specifically a small oil filter guard built into all the syncro skid plates I've seen.
 
you can tell if the engine still turns over just by looking at the crankshaft pulley turning,   cranking it on the starter.
 
glad you're in good shape though, and the warning system did its job !
Smart to carry a spare oil filter too ! 
sounds like great adventure.
 
Scott
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 4:50 AM
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Oil Pressure Buzzer working

 

Sounds like a fantastic trip Theo (except for the oil filter incident - lucky you had a spare).
 
Post some photos if you get the chance - to really rub it in!
 
Cheers,
 
Skot
 
----- Original Message -----
From: theoweiss
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 8:42 PM
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australi a] Oil Pressure Buzzer working

 

Hello Syncronauts,

We just got home from our Queensland holiday. On our return journey, we wanted to see what's left of the recent Queensland floods. So, we followed the road along the Darling River from Burke to Wentworth.
Still a bit of water around and we saw the Paroo River actually flowing quite fast,like a mountain stream.
Anyway, driving along this noisy gravel road towards Wilcannia, all of a sudden, a screaming noise. What the hell is going on?! It took me a second to realise that it must be the oil pressure alarm, people talked about. Engine off, stopped the van, walked to the back and oh boy, what a mess, oil sprayed everywhere, oil dripping from the engine, too hot to have a closer look. Let it cool down a bit, open the engine bay oil everywhere. Clean down the engine to better see where the oil is dripping from. Then I realise, to my relief, it is only a punctured oil filter. I had a spare one on board but not enough spare oil. A friendly farmer helped us out with some oil but still not enough. I removed the distributer cap to see if the engine still turns over and that was ok.
So, off we went slowly to Wilcannia.
But that was not all. We had another exciting drive. On the road from Menindee to Pooncarie, some of the Syncronauts would know this road.
After leaving Menindee it started to rain a bit but it turned the road
into an ice skating ring, driving sideways most of the time. The one hour drive turned into a three hour night-mare.

Some more observations on this trip.
Most of the country towns have well set up Information Centres,
LPG price in Wilcannia $1.08. Petrol $1.60
In the town centre of Ouyen, is a bakery which makes yummy cakes and the famous JK approved vanilla slice!
In the Hattah Kulkyne NP, some of the lakes got water pumped in.

Cheers
Theo & Christine

4
Was it a German filter?

Some of the generic brands have been known to erupt. Especially Ryco.


> theoweiss <teows@melbpc.org.au> wrote:
>
> Hello Syncronauts,
>
> We just got home from our Queensland holiday. On our return journey, we
> wanted to see what's left of the recent Queensland floods. So, we
> followed the road along the Darling River from Burke to Wentworth.
> Still a bit of water around and we saw the Paroo River actually flowing
> quite fast,like a mountain stream.
> Anyway, driving along this noisy gravel road towards Wilcannia, all of a
> sudden, a screaming noise. What the hell is going on?! It took me a
> second to realise that it must be the oil pressure alarm, people talked
> about. Engine off, stopped the van, walked to the back and oh boy, what
> a mess, oil sprayed everywhere, oil dripping from the engine, too hot to
> have a closer look. Let it cool down a bit, open the engine bay oil
> everywhere. Clean down the engine to better see where the oil is
> dripping from. Then I realise, to my relief, it is only a punctured oil
> filter. I had a spare one on board but not enough spare oil. A friendly
> farmer helped us out with some oil but still not enough. I removed the
> distributer cap to see if the engine still turns over and that was ok.
> So, off we went slowly to Wilcannia.
> But that was not all. We had another exciting drive. On the road from
> Menindee to Pooncarie, some of the Syncronauts would know this road.
> After leaving Menindee it started to rain a bit but it turned the road
> into an ice skating ring, driving sideways most of the time. The one
> hour drive turned into a three hour night-mare.
>
> Some more observations on this trip.
> Most of the country towns have well set up Information Centres,
> LPG price in Wilcannia $1.08. Petrol $1.60
> In the town centre of Ouyen, is a bakery which makes yummy cakes and the
> famous JK approved vanilla slice!
> In the Hattah Kulkyne NP, some of the lakes got water pumped in.
>
> Cheers
> Theo & Christine
5
On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 2:33 PM, <plander@optusnet.com.au> wrote:

Was it a German filter?

I'm guessing those are intended to keep fellows like Hartmut out of your Syncro.
;-)
Sorry, Hartis, I could not help myself.

--
BenT
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the post says 'punctured' ..
I was wondering if that means a normal external puncturing event ..
or if maybe it spit open from excessive oil pressure , as in stuck oil pressure relief valve . ( would be pretty rare to see that though ) .
or possibly a cheap or faulty oil filter .
good german ones are the only way to go of course.
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 2:33 PM
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Oil Pressure Buzzer working

 


Was it a German filter?

Some of the generic brands have been known to erupt. Especially Ryco.

> theoweiss <teows@melbpc.org.au> wrote:
>
> Hello Syncronauts,
>
> We just got home from our Queensland holiday. On our return journey, we
> wanted to see what's left of the recent Queensland floods. So, we
> followed the road along the Darling River from Burke to Wentworth.
> Still a bit of water around and we saw the Paroo River actually flowing
> quite fast,like a mountain stream.
> Anyway, driving along this noisy gravel road towards Wilcannia, all of a
> sudden, a screaming noise. What the hell is going on?! It took me a
> second to realise that it must be the oil pressure alarm, people talked
> about. Engine off, stopped the van, walked to the back and oh boy, what
> a mess, oil sprayed everywhere, oil dripping from the engine, too hot to
> have a closer look. Let it cool down a bit, open the engine bay oil
> everywhere. Clean down the engine to better see where the oil is
> dripping from. Then I realise, to my relief, it is only a punctured oil
> filter. I had a spare one on board but not enough spare oil. A friendly
> farmer helped us out with some oil but still not enough. I removed the
> distributer cap to see if the engine still turns over and that was ok.
> So, off we went slowly to Wilcannia.
> But that was not all. We had another exciting drive. On the road from
> Menindee to Pooncarie, some of the Syncronauts would know this road.
> After leaving Menindee it started to rain a bit but it turned the road
> into an ice skating ring, driving sideways most of the time. The one
> hour drive turned into a three hour night-mare.
>
> Some more observations on this trip.
> Most of the country towns have well set up Information Centres,
> LPG price in Wilcannia $1.08. Petrol $1.60
> In the town centre of Ouyen, is a bakery which makes yummy cakes and the
> famous JK approved vanilla slice!
> In the Hattah Kulkyne NP, some of the lakes got water pumped in.
>
> Cheers
> Theo & Christine

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> or if maybe it spit open from excessive oil pressure , as in stuck oil
> pressure relief valve . ( would be pretty rare to see that though ) .

Not rare in Australia


> or possibly a cheap or faulty oil filter .

That's the cause

> good german ones are the only way to go of course.
>

The only ones
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Theo

Sounds a great adventure drive. I  know of the Pooncarie road way back in the early 80's. When working on assignment I travelled from Mildura to Menindee in one of the very first Holden Commodores. Being a company car and 30 years younger I tended to thump it along and made it in fast time. But on return to Melbourne the company mechanics found all the steering geometry out of kilt and had to send it to Holden at Fishermans Bend who made a case study out of it to find that the chassis was also all out of alignment. Around the company garage I and the car became a 'cause de celeb' Bet you syncro had no such problems.
 I'm interested to know Theo what LPG system do you have and are you happy with it all. I'm considering  changing over.
 
Regards

Michael


From: theoweiss <teows@melbpc.org.au>
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, 20 July, 2010 8:42:50 PM
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Oil Pressure Buzzer working

 

Hello Syncronauts,

We just got home from our Queensland holiday. On our return journey, we wanted to see what's left of the recent Queensland floods. So, we followed the road along the Darling River from Burke to Wentworth.
Still a bit of water around and we saw the Paroo River actually flowing quite fast,like a mountain stream.
Anyway, driving along this noisy gravel road towards Wilcannia, all of a sudden, a screaming noise. What the hell is going on?! It took me a second to realise that it must be the oil pressure alarm, people talked about. Engine off, stopped the van, walked to the back and oh boy, what a mess, oil sprayed everywhere, oil dripping from the engine, too hot to have a closer look. Let it cool down a bit, open the engine bay oil everywhere. Clean down the engine to better see where the oil is dripping from. Then I realise, to my relief, it is only a punctured oil filter. I had a spare one on board but not enough spare oil. A friendly farmer helped us out with some oil but still not enough. I removed the distributer cap to see if the engine still turns over and that was ok.
So, off we went slowly to Wilcannia.
But that was not all. We had another exciting drive. On the road from Menindee to Pooncarie, some of the Syncronauts would know this road.
After leaving Menindee it started to rain a bit but it turned the road
into an ice skating ring, driving sideways most of the time. The one hour drive turned into a three hour night-mare.

Some more observations on this trip.
Most of the country towns have well set up Information Centres,
LPG price in Wilcannia $1.08. Petrol $1.60
In the town centre of Ouyen, is a bakery which makes yummy cakes and the famous JK approved vanilla slice!
In the Hattah Kulkyne NP, some of the lakes got water pumped in.

Cheers
Theo & Christine


 
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Skot,Scott Daniel,Phil,

Skot,
It was too muddy and scary to stop to take pictures at the time and
lose momentum. We have never done any uploading of photos before and
have to find out how to do it and we receive only some pictures.

Scott Daniel
I have to confess my sins, skid-plate NOT bolted on. I am still
working on the van. I thought not doing 4 wheel driving, I will be ok
on the country roads. To make matters worse, I have an oil
temperature adapter plate fitted between the oil cooler and the
filter so, even more exposed. Mind you, the puncture to the filter
was done from the side, not from the bottom up.
The reason for taking the distributor-cap off is to see if the engine
still turns over but also to swish a bit of oil around before firing up.

Phil,
Yes German filter "MANN".

I think it was just a freak accident. Even with the skid plate in
place, the filter is still exposed to flying objects.
When I showed the friendly farmer where the filter is mounted,his
comments "What a silly place to have an oil filter".
This set up is ok for a street machine but for a 4 WD?
The "HAFLINGER", by the way puts the filter half-way up the engine,
out of harms way and uses a filter cartridge insert system.
I need to work a way to protect the filter.

Cheers,
Theo
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hi phil.
nice to see your note.
 
it's fine to take the distributor cap off to see if the engine is turning, or to ciculate oil,
but it's not neccessary .
just look at the big fat crankshaft pulley turning right there in plain site .
that'll tell you the engine is turning,   while you get oil circulating.  I guess you didn't catch that first time I mentioned it.
 
 out on the road, I don't like to touch anything unneccsarily ...
it's rare, but sometimes you fiddle with the distributor cap, and manage to break off the little tit in there that the rotor rubs on.
   When I'm far away from home or my shop ..
I try not to touch anything unnecessarily. 
 
< and besides, if you had a Subaru engine in there with no distributor at all, then what would you do ?? ! >
 
so did you figure out exactly how your oil filter got punctured ?
like was it an external foreign object of some kind, for sure ?
 
if you want I'll tell you via pmail how to upload pictures to the group site.
 
yeah either a good filter guard or a remotely mounted oil filter.
that's a very common thing of course..
there's an adapter plate with oil line fittings and hoses going to an oil filter mounted in the engine compartment somewhere ..
and if doing that, might as well make it an extra large oil filter or something enhanced over the stock oil filter.
re on road/off road and 2WD T3's versus Syncro's ..
you'd think the engine would be mounted higher up in a syncro ..
but it's mounted Lower ......by almost two inches, in a syncro, compared to a 2WD T3. 
 
kinda backwards that.
 
I find the skid plate a real bother and pain to remove and install, so I also run them without skid plate sometimes, until other work is done.
I'm sure you know the trick of cutting a small piece of metal out of the skid plate so you can check the magnetic drain plug , or drain the  trans, with skid plate in place.
 stock, they expect you to drop the skid plate just to access the trans drain plug.  Silly.
 
Scott
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Theo Weiss
Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 2:17 AM
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Oil Pressure Buzzer working

 

Skot,Scott Daniel,Phil,

Skot,
It was too muddy and scary to stop to take pictures at the time and
lose momentum. We have never done any uploading of photos before and
have to find out how to do it and we receive only some pictures.

Scott Daniel
I have to confess my sins, skid-plate NOT bolted on. I am still
working on the van. I thought not doing 4 wheel driving, I will be ok
on the country roads. To make matters worse, I have an oil
temperature adapter plate fitted between the oil cooler and the
filter so, even more exposed. Mind you, the puncture to the filter
was done from the side, not from the bottom up.
The reason for taking the distributor-cap off is to see if the engine
still turns over but also to swish a bit of oil around before firing up.

Phil,
Yes German filter "MANN".

I think it was just a freak accident. Even with the skid plate in
place, the filter is still exposed to flying objects.
When I showed the friendly farmer where the filter is mounted,his
comments "What a silly place to have an oil filter".
This set up is ok for a street machine but for a 4 WD?
The "HAFLINGER", by the way puts the filter half-way up the engine,
out of harms way and uses a filter cartridge insert system.
I need to work a way to protect the filter.

Cheers,
Theo