Oil pressure gauge

Ben,

It would be helpful because Ken could then go ahead confident in the knowledge that he is replicating the original sizes.

(I am pleased to hear that there is someone else like me who has two of many tools because the original was mislaid!!)

Les

 


From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com [mailto: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of BenT Syncro
Sent: 10 February 2011 13:17
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] RE: Gear selector

 

Yurik,

 

I can take measurements on these things if someone needed me to. I didn't include any simply because I could not find my calipers. Will take a trip to our local discount tool place and pick one up over the weekend if anyone is still wanting more exact specs.

 

 

Regards,

 

BenT 

There weren't "mislaid", Les. They were simply put away very well. After the new tool arrives, the old tools almost always reveal themselves in a fit of jealous rage. And there were two.
BenT

On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 6:22 PM, Les Harris <leslieharris@optusnet.com.au> wrote:


Ben,

It would be helpful because Ken could then go ahead confident in the knowledge that he is replicating the original sizes.

(I am pleased to hear that there is someone else like me who has two of many tools because the original was mislaid!!)

Les


From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of BenT Syncro
Sent: 10 February 2011 13:17

Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] RE: Gear selector

Yurik,

I can take measurements on these things if someone needed me to. I didn't include any simply because I could not find my calipers. Will take a trip to our local discount tool place and pick one up over the weekend if anyone is still wanting more exact specs.

Regards,

BenT



Les, BenT and ALL,
I readily agree that if BenT can accurately measure the bush dimensions from his NLA pristine spare, then these details and schematics could be archived for posterity for the benefit of present and future syncro owners, here and elsewhere.
To that end, I've assessed what are the key dimensions needed to try and understand what the factory default dimensions are of the bushes and their inter-relationship with the selector fingers they are moulded to. With these findings, the critical thickness front facings can be replicated and uncritical thickness rear facings can be modified as necessary to fabricate each bush. Fabricated correctly, all six gears should engage or else fabricated badly, some gears may not be selectable. So it is pretty critical to get the fundamentals correct.
I've attached here an approx. double scale pdf plan drawing of the selector forks and the dimensions needed are hopefully self explanatory. All that is needed are the millimetre dimensions for all those 9 listed. TIA.
Cheers.
Ken 

To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
From: leslieharris@optusnet.com.au
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 13:22:08 +1100
Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] RE: Gear selector

 

Ben,

It would be helpful because Ken could then go ahead confident in the knowledge that he is replicating the original sizes.

(I am pleased to hear that there is someone else like me who has two of many tools because the original was mislaid!!)

Les

 


From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of BenT Syncro
Sent: 10 February 2011 13:17
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] RE: Gear selector

 

Yurik,

 

I can take measurements on these things if someone needed me to. I didn't include any simply because I could not find my calipers. Will take a trip to our local discount tool place and pick one up over the weekend if anyone is still wanting more exact specs.

 

 

Regards,

 

BenT 


I didn't really think the bushes were built to such precise dimensions. Nevertheless, I will try to get the most accurate measurements that I am able. I've seen other repair these shiftrods rather haphazardly. After some adjustment at the shifter, there was no discernible difference between a Syncro with a fresh shiftrod and the one which was cobbled together using pieces of nylon kitchen cutting board.

My plan is to get the overall thickness. Then measure the thickness of the metal. Then deduct that from the overall dimension. Each side appears to be of identical thickness on each side of the metal fork.


BenT

On Feb 10, 2011, at 12:28 AM, Ken Garratt <unclekenz@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> Les, BenT and ALL,
> I readily agree that if BenT can accurately measure the bush dimensions from his NLA pristine spare, then these details and schematics could be archived for posterity for the benefit of present and future syncro owners, here and elsewhere.
> To that end, I've assessed what are the key dimensions needed to try and understand what the factory default dimensions are of the bushes and their inter-relationship with the selector fingers they are moulded to. With these findings, the critical thickness front facings can be replicated and uncritical thickness rear facings can be modified as necessary to fabricate each bush. Fabricated correctly, all six gears should engage or else fabricated badly, some gears may not be selectable. So it is pretty critical to get the fundamentals correct.
> I've attached here an approx. double scale pdf plan drawing of the selector forks and the dimensions needed are hopefully self explanatory. All that is needed are the millimetre dimensions for all those 9 listed. TIA.
> Cheers.
> Ken
>
Essentially this is the nub of it. Making bushes that are "smallish" in size, much as the original bushes seem to be, one ends up with a sloppy gearshift, meaning one can engage each gear ok but then stuck with a gearshift that can be wobbled sideways. As the bushes wear over time, the gearshift can get even wobblier.
 
If one experiments (R&D) with fabricating larger than normal bushes, so achieving more critical tolerances at the selector forks and the way they mate with the selector guides attached to the inside of the metal gear selector housing, then one can achieve at the gearshift knob a much more accurate straight-line shift movement with very minimal gearshift sideways wobble. So in other words, do a crappy job on the bushes and so one gets a crappy wobbly gearshift result. Take some care and effort to fine tune it with finer tolerance bushes and get a very smooth, straight, no wobble gearshift.
I can confirm this finding as this is what I have achieved already with my Beta 1 prototype bushes. But I'm still keen to dabble a bit more while making a permanent pair of bushes. So once I know the factory default dimensions of the original bushes in terms of length, height and width etc as shown on my plan, I can then take these findings into account when fabricating these "fine tuned" larger bushes. TIA.
 
Ken
 

To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
From: syncro@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 00:57:57 -0800
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] RE: Gear selector

 
I didn't really think the bushes were built to such precise dimensions. Nevertheless, I will try to get the most accurate measurements that I am able. I've seen other repair these shiftrods rather haphazardly. After some adjustment at the shifter, there was no discernible difference between a Syncro with a fresh shiftrod and the one which was cobbled together using pieces of nylon kitchen cutting board.

My plan is to get the overall thickness. Then measure the thickness of the metal. Then deduct that from the overall dimension. Each side appears to be of identical thickness on each side of the metal fork.

BenT

On Feb 10, 2011, at 12:28 AM, Ken Garratt <unclekenz@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> Les, BenT and ALL,
> I readily agree that if BenT can accurately measure the bush dimensions from his NLA pristine spare, then these details and schematics could be archived for posterity for the benefit of present and future syncro owners, here and elsewhere.
> To that end, I've assessed what are the key dimensions needed to try and understand what the factory default dimensions are of the bushes and their inter-relationship with the selector fingers they are moulded to. With these findings, the critical thickness front facings can be replicated and uncritical thickness rear facings can be modified as necessary to fabricate each bush. Fabricated correctly, all six gears should engage or else fabricated badly, some gears may not be selectable. So it is pretty critical to get the fundamentals correct.
> I've attached here an approx. double scale pdf plan drawing of the selector forks and the dimensions needed are hopefully self explanatory. All that is needed are the millimetre dimensions for all those 9 listed. TIA.
> Cheers.
> Ken
>

Ken

What you are saying makes a lot of sense.

Let us know once you are out of prototype mode and into series production - I'd like to place the 1st order and solve 'wobbly' gearshifts!

Regards
Mark.

On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 9:14 PM, Ken Garratt <unclekenz@hotmail.com> wrote:

Essentially this is the nub of it. Making bushes that are "smallish" in size, much as the original bushes seem to be, one ends up with a sloppy gearshift, meaning one can engage each gear ok but then stuck with a gearshift that can be wobbled sideways. As the bushes wear over time, the gearshift can get even wobblier.

If one experiments (R&D) with fabricating larger than normal bushes, so achieving more critical tolerances at the selector forks and the way they mate with the selector guides attached to the inside of the metal gear selector housing, then one can achieve at the gearshift knob a much more accurate straight-line shift movement with very minimal gearshift sideways wobble. So in other words, do a crappy job on the bushes and so one gets a crappy wobbly gearshift result. Take some care and effort to fine tune it with finer tolerance bushes and get a very smooth, straight, no wobble gearshift.
I can confirm this finding as this is what I have achieved already with my Beta 1 prototype bushes. But I'm still keen to dabble a bit more while making a permanent pair of bushes. So once I know the factory default dimensions of the original bushes in terms of length, height and width etc as shown on my plan, I can then take these findings into account when fabricating these "fine tuned" larger bushes. TIA.

From: syncro@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 00:57:57 -0800

Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] RE: Gear selector

I didn't really think the bushes were built to such precise dimensions. Nevertheless, I will try to get the most accurate measurements that I am able. I've seen other repair these shiftrods rather haphazardly. After some adjustment at the shifter, there was no discernible difference between a Syncro with a fresh shiftrod and the one which was cobbled together using pieces of nylon kitchen cutting board.

My plan is to get the overall thickness. Then measure the thickness of the metal. Then deduct that from the overall dimension. Each side appears to be of identical thickness on each side of the metal fork.

BenT

On Feb 10, 2011, at 12:28 AM, Ken Garratt <unclekenz@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> Les, BenT and ALL,
> I readily agree that if BenT can accurately measure the bush dimensions from his NLA pristine spare, then these details and schematics could be archived for posterity for the benefit of present and future syncro owners, here and elsewhere.
> To that end, I've assessed what are the key dimensions needed to try and understand what the factory default dimensions are of the bushes and their inter-relationship with the selector fingers they are moulded to. With these findings, the critical thickness front facings can be replicated and uncritical thickness rear facings can be modified as necessary to fabricate each bush. Fabricated correctly, all six gears should engage or else fabricated badly, some gears may not be selectable. So it is pretty critical to get the fundamentals correct.
> I've attached here an approx. double scale pdf plan drawing of the selector forks and the dimensions needed are hopefully self explanatory. All that is needed are the millimetre dimensions for all those 9 listed. TIA.
> Cheers.
> Ken
>


When first raised I was thinking that the slide on nylon covers found on the positive and negative terminals of some new 3 pin electrical plugs might do the job and if your drawing is double scale they might be in there with a chance although life/Syncros are rarely that simple.
I'm lucky to still have a really solid mechanism on mine due no doubt to the first half of its life being mainly used to go from Perth to Broome and back, which does not call for a lot of gear changing.
 Do others remember road tests of 1950's Renault Dauphines describing their  gear change even when new  as like a knitting needle in a rice pudding. However sounds like a good solution is being cooked up by our  Michelin 3 star Syncro gourmets.
Bon appetit
Roger
Melbourne

--- On Thu, 10/2/11, Ken Garratt <unclekenz@hotmail.com> wrote:

From: Ken Garratt <unclekenz@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] RE: Gear selector
To: "Syncro _T3_Australia forum" <syncro_t3_australia@yahoogroups.com>
Received: Thursday, 10 February, 2011, 4:28 PM

 
Les, BenT and ALL,
I readily agree that if BenT can accurately measure the bush dimensions from his NLA pristine spare, then these details and schematics could be archived for posterity for the benefit of present and future syncro owners, here and elsewhere.
To that end, I've assessed what are the key dimensions needed to try and understand what the factory default dimensions are of the bushes and their inter-relationship with the selector fingers they are moulded to. With these findings, the critical thickness front facings can be replicated and uncritical thickness rear facings can be modified as necessary to fabricate each bush. Fabricated correctly, all six gears should engage or else fabricated badly, some gears may not be selectable. So it is pretty critical to get the fundamentals correct.
I've attached here an approx. double scale pdf plan drawing of the selector forks and the dimensions needed are hopefully self explanatory. All that is needed are the millimetre dimensions for all those 9 listed. TIA.
Cheers.
Ken 

To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
From: leslieharris@optusnet.com.au
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 13:22:08 +1100
Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] RE: Gear selector

 

Ben,

It would be helpful because Ken could then go ahead confident in the knowledge that he is replicating the original sizes.

(I am pleased to hear that there is someone else like me who has two of many tools because the original was mislaid!!)

Les

 


From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of BenT Syncro
Sent: 10 February 2011 13:17
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] RE: Gear selector

 

Yurik,

 

I can take measurements on these things if someone needed me to. I didn't include any simply because I could not find my calipers. Will take a trip to our local discount tool place and pick one up over the weekend if anyone is still wanting more exact specs.

 

 

Regards,

 

BenT 



 
Yurik, BenT, Ken,

Thanks for all the information so far, now I understand why my
gearshift is wobbly,as Ken put it. No wonder, it handles all the
important gears. So the two fingers are not of the same height.
I agree with Ken, we should aim for the most accurate size possible.
BenT, please when you get a chance, fill in the numbers on Ken's
drawing, thank you.

Cheers.

Theo
Roger,
I doubt those nylon covers from battery terminals would be adequate. They are awfully thin and not very durable. At least the ones we get here in the States are.
It will be the weekend before I get the darn calipers. I just spent an hour looking for my old ones in the garage. It's just easier to buy a new one as Les knows well. Trouble is I have not had time to fetch to go to the tool mart.
BenT

On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 3:00 AM, Roger Bell <bellrmit@yahoo.com.au> wrote:


When first raised I was thinking that the slide on nylon covers found on the positive and negative terminals of some new 3 pin electrical plugs might do the job and if your drawing is double scale they might be in there with a chance although life/Syncros are rarely that simple.
I'm lucky to still have a really solid mechanism on mine due no doubt to the first half of its life being mainly used to go from Perth to Broome and back, which does not call for a lot of gear changing.
Do others remember road tests of 1950's Renault Dauphines describing their gear change even when new as like a knitting needle in a rice pudding. However sounds like a good solution is being cooked up by our Michelin 3 star Syncro gourmets.
Bon appetit
Roger
Melbourne

--- On Thu, 10/2/11, Ken Garratt <unclekenz@hotmail.com> wrote:

From: Ken Garratt <unclekenz@hotmail.com>

Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] RE: Gear selector
To: "Syncro _T3_Australia forum" <syncro_t3_australia@yahoogroups.com>
Received: Thursday, 10 February, 2011, 4:28 PM


Les, BenT and ALL,
I readily agree that if BenT can accurately measure the bush dimensions from his NLA pristine spare, then these details and schematics could be archived for posterity for the benefit of present and future syncro owners, here and elsewhere.
To that end, I've assessed what are the key dimensions needed to try and understand what the factory default dimensions are of the bushes and their inter-relationship with the selector fingers they are moulded to. With these findings, the critical thickness front facings can be replicated and uncritical thickness rear facings can be modified as necessary to fabricate each bush. Fabricated correctly, all six gears should engage or else fabricated badly, some gears may not be selectable. So it is pretty critical to get the fundamentals correct.
I've attached here an approx. double scale pdf plan drawing of the selector forks and the dimensions needed are hopefully self explanatory. All that is needed are the millimetre dimensions for all those 9 listed. TIA.
Cheers.
Ken

To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
From: leslieharris@optusnet.com.au
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 13:22:08 +1100
Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] RE: Gear selector

Ben,

It would be helpful because Ken could then go ahead confident in the knowledge that he is replicating the original sizes.

(I am pleased to hear that there is someone else like me who has two of many tools because the original was mislaid!!)

Les


From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of BenT Syncro
Sent: 10 February 2011 13:17
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] RE: Gear selector

Yurik,

I can take measurements on these things if someone needed me to. I didn't include any simply because I could not find my calipers. Will take a trip to our local discount tool place and pick one up over the weekend if anyone is still wanting more exact specs.

Regards,

BenT








--
BenT

Roger,

The leverage and thus the load put on these sliders is such that it would not be worth considering anything less than rigid nylon, as Yurik has done.   It truly would not be worth the effort otherwise.

Les


From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Roger Bell
Sent: 10 February 2011 22:00
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] RE: Gear selector

 

 

When first raised I was thinking that the slide on nylon covers found on the positive and negative terminals of some new 3 pin electrical plugs might do the job and if your drawing is double scale they might be in there with a chance although life/Syncros are rarely that simple.

I'm lucky to still have a really solid mechanism on mine due no doubt to the first half of its life being mainly used to go from Perth to Broome and back, which does not call for a lot of gear changing.

 Do others remember road tests of 1950's Renault Dauphines describing their  gear change even when new  as like a knitting needle in a rice pudding. However sounds like a good solution is being cooked up by our  Michelin 3 star Syncro gourmets.

Bon appetit

Roger

Melbourne



 

> BenT Syncro <syncro@gmail.com> wrote:
>
Roger,

I doubt those nylon covers from battery terminals would be adequate. They
are awfully thin and not very durable. At least the ones we get here in the
States are.


They're the same colour so they must be the same! (Sorry, forum logic)

Has anyone actually tried to buy the part new?

It's funny how every conceivable part on a T25 is now NLA.

Phill
Phill,

That's how I got my spare. Bought new a week or so before VW declared it NLA in the US.


BenT


On Feb 10, 2011, at 1:07 PM, plander@optusnet.com.au wrote:

>
>
>
>
>> BenT Syncro <syncro@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
> Roger,
>
> I doubt those nylon covers from battery terminals would be adequate. They
> are awfully thin and not very durable. At least the ones we get here in the
> States are.
>
>
> They're the same colour so they must be the same! (Sorry, forum logic)
>
> Has anyone actually tried to buy the part new?
>
> It's funny how every conceivable part on a T25 is now NLA.
>
> Phill
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
Phill,
If my local VW centre can't even figure out what spark plug they recommend/stock for a T3, what chance then of them locating a bush component that most likely doesn't exist nor which anyway doesn't have a part number ID in Etka ... their parts bible?
Anyone wanting to get traumatised in frustration, sure, go ahead, make your day .. ring em.
Cheers.
Ken



-----Original Message-----
From: BenT Syncro <syncro@gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, 11 February 2011 8:24 AM
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] RE: Gear selector


Phill,

That's how I got my spare. Bought new a week or so before VW declared it NLA in the US.

BenT

On Feb 10, 2011, at 1:07 PM, plander@optusnet.com.au wrote:

>
>
>
>
>> BenT Syncro <syncro@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
> Roger,
>
> I doubt those nylon covers from battery terminals would be adequate. They
> are awfully thin and not very durable. At least the ones we get here in the
> States are.
>
>
> They're the same colour so they must be the same! (Sorry, forum logic)
>
> Has anyone actually tried to buy the part new?
>
> It's funny how every conceivable part on a T25 is now NLA.
>
> Phill
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
If you look at the photos I attached earlier in this thread, there is a pic of the VW inventory tag with the part number.;-)


BenT

Sent from my 251.711.271.H

On Feb 10, 2011, at 2:25 PM, "Ken Garratt " <unclekenz@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Phill,
> If my local VW centre can't even figure out what spark plug they recommend/stock for a T3, what chance then of them locating a bush component that most likely doesn't exist nor which anyway doesn't have a part number ID in Etka ... their parts bible?
> Anyone wanting to get traumatised in frustration, sure, go ahead, make your day .. ring em.
> Cheers.
> Ken
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BenT Syncro <syncro@gmail.com>
> Sent: Friday, 11 February 2011 8:24 AM
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] RE: Gear selector
>
>
> Phill,
>
> That's how I got my spare. Bought new a week or so before VW declared it NLA in the US.
>
> BenT
>
> On Feb 10, 2011, at 1:07 PM, plander@optusnet.com.au wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> BenT Syncro <syncro@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>> Roger,
>>
>> I doubt those nylon covers from battery terminals would be adequate. They
>> are awfully thin and not very durable. At least the ones we get here in the
>> States are.
>>
>>
>> They're the same colour so they must be the same! (Sorry, forum logic)
>>
>> Has anyone actually tried to buy the part new?
>>
>> It's funny how every conceivable part on a T25 is now NLA.
>>
>> Phill
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------
>>
>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
> If my local VW centre can't even figure out what spark plug they
> recommend/stock for a T3,

There's your problem.




what chance then of them locating a bush
> component that most likely doesn't exist

That's correct. You have to buy the shaft.

251 711 271 H
Ben

The problem with Australia VW parts people is that they are a pack of

025 115 611 B

Phill
On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 3:12 PM, <plander@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
Ben

The problem with Australia VW parts people is that they are a pack of

025 115 611 B

Phill
Does 'dipstick' mean the same thing in 'strian as it does in Amurkan?
--
BenT
Try here

http://www.allworldautomotive.com/auto_parts_for_sale_volkswagen_complete_engines_ots28160-22.html




> Hartmut Kiehn <hartis@live.com.au> wrote:
>
>
> Ken, how do I have to understand this ?? Can we still buy the shaft new
> ?? Hartmut
>
>
>
> > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > From: unclekenz@hotmail.com
> > Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 00:27:26 +0000
> > Subject: FW: [Syncro_T3_Australia] RE: Gear selector
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ken Garratt <unclekenz@hotmail.com>
> > Sent: Friday, 11 February 2011
> > RE: Gear selector
> >
> > BenT,
> > I interpreted Phills query as referring to sourcing replacement bushes
> alone ... nothing to do with the complete gear selector shaft you have.
> > Ken
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: BenT Syncro <syncro@gmail.com>
> > Sent: Friday, 11 February 2011 9:43 AM
> > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] RE: Gear selector
> >
> >
> > If you look at the photos I attached earlier in this thread, there is
> a pic of the VW inventory tag with the part number.;-)
> >
> > BenT
> >
> > Sent from my 251.711.271.H
> >
> > On Feb 10, 2011, at 2:25 PM, "Ken Garratt " <unclekenz@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Phill,
> > > If my local VW centre can't even figure out what spark plug they
> recommend/stock for a T3, what chance then of them locating a bush
> component that most likely doesn't exist nor which anyway doesn't have a
> part number ID in Etka ... their parts bible?
> > > Anyone wanting to get traumatised in frustration, sure, go ahead,
> make your day .. ring em.
> > > Cheers.
> > > Ken
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: BenT Syncro <syncro@gmail.com>
> > > Sent: Friday, 11 February 2011 8:24 AM
> > > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] RE: Gear selector
> > >
> > >
> > > Phill,
> > >
> > > That's how I got my spare. Bought new a week or so before VW
> declared it NLA in the US.
> > >
> > > BenT
> > >
> > > On Feb 10, 2011, at 1:07 PM, plander@optusnet.com.au wrote:
> > >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> BenT Syncro <syncro@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >> Roger,
> > >>
> > >> I doubt those nylon covers from battery terminals would be
> adequate. They
> > >> are awfully thin and not very durable. At least the ones we get
> here in the
> > >> States are.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> They're the same colour so they must be the same! (Sorry, forum
> logic)
> > >>
> > >> Has anyone actually tried to buy the part new?
> > >>
> > >> It's funny how every conceivable part on a T25 is now NLA.
> > >>
> > >> Phill
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> ------------------------------------
> > >>
> > >> Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>
BenT  thanks for that I was pulling my hair out to guess what 025..... B meant    Hartis
 

To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
From: syncro@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 17:08:49 -0800
Subject: Re: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] RE: Gear selector

 


On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 3:12 PM, <plander@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
Ben

The problem with Australia VW parts people is that they are a pack of

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Phill
 
Does 'dipstick' mean the same thing in 'strian as it does in Amurkan?
 
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BenT


Hartmut,
Well now that you've made Port as the centre of the universe for syncros, maybe you'll get lucky sourcing via the Port VW service centre.
Meanwhile, I'll desist though holding my breath. Cheers.
Ken




-----Original Message-----
From: Hartmut Kiehn <hartis@live.com.au>
Sent: Friday, 11 February 2011 11:51 AM
To: syncro_t3_australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] RE: Gear selector



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