Better luck next time, Glenn. Following that awful caravan tragedy in Tasmania, we installed a carbon monoxide alarm in our Syncro and can sleep sounder with our fridge and stove now. Our family has the kind of camper you are after ('91 Sunliner not Trakka) but not planning to sell at present, however will keep an eye out for you.
Have also noticed a Syncro bare van parked in Charles St, Northcote recently but presume it's not someone on this list?
Best,
Francesca.
Have also noticed a Syncro bare van parked in Charles St, Northcote recently but presume it's not someone on this list?
Best,
Francesca.
On 30 November 2012 19:32, <Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
15 New Messages
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Messages
Thu Nov 29, 2012 11:44 am (PST) . Posted by:
"gburgss" gburgss
Ken, Greg, Skot
Thanks for the input. Livivng in Tasmania there is every chance I will have to do a change of registration when I buy one (Hopefully Harts).
Options would be to remove alltogether or install a vented 'locker' (no nothing to do with diffs!) on the drivers side and loose some cupboard space.
I certainly wouldn't be cooking eggs and bacon inside the van but like the idea of being able to boil water for a brew.
With 2 young children I take onboard Skots comment about extra space.
Regards
Glenn
--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, Mr Scott Pitcher <spbconsulting@...> wrote:
>
> Greg,
>
> My thoughts exactly.
>
> I built one of these swing out cookers and had a 3 way fridge - both now
> gone - hated them both as they are smelly and in the case of the fridge
> - very inefficient.
>
> I now have lots more room (once I chuck all the wife and kids stuff in
> the awning) and a fridge that holds heaps and works great without any
> smell to gas out the occupants or risk of fire.
>
> Very happy with my current set up although a solar panel set up is on
> the cards.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Skot
>
>
> On 29/11/2012 9:24 PM, greg esposito wrote:
> > Hi Glenn, This may not be what you want to hear but the first thing I
> > did when I bought my bus was remove the swing out. They are too big,
> > too heavy and frankly useless. A portable two burner is far better.
> > Also the issue you touched on - I don't want to sleep with gas bottles
> > and gas fridges. Two way and solar is the way to go imho. Greg E
> >
> > *From:* gburgss <gburgss@...>
> > *To:* Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > *Sent:* Thursday, 29 November 2012 8:27 PM
> > *Subject:* [Syncro_T3_Australia] Gas Bottle Storage - Trakka campers
> > Hello all
> >
> > My first of what will no doubt be many questions.
> >
> > Can Trakka owners advise what if any issues they have with regard to
> > the Gas Bottle being stored below the swing out gas cookers.i.e - How
> > is this viewed by the various authorities when it is time to register
> > the vehicle. (or do you simply remove the unit before taking over the
> > pits?)
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Glenn
> >
> >
>
Thu Nov 29, 2012 2:09 pm (PST) . Posted by:
"Ken Garratt" unclekenz
Glenn,
Just to fly the flag for the Trakka gas cooker cupboard and add some balance to this topic.
I agree a danger potential is there. I have heard of death during sleep by gassing. Premeditated? Negligent? Good practice?
I don't recall any report of a T3 Trakka camper being gutted by fire from a gas bottle incident in the cooker cupboard. Is this based on pure luck or good practice?But I have seen online T3 vans gutted by fire from a fault arising in the engine bay. So I ask you, where is the REAL danger?
Treated with all due respect/diligence the gas bottle & cooker installation, including periodic maintenance of the cooker appliance, checking and if necessary the replacement of the gas bottle hose and replacement of all O-Rings/flat rubber washers to gas fittings plus turning the gas bottle off after each use ... all these are a no brainer and stand a user and their children in good stead. I contend your concerns emanate from instances where this good practice has not occurred.
My Trakker cooker cupboard is terrific. Works just fine. Swings in and out as required. In shite weather, makes a great cup of tea or coffee and toast inside, no problem. In great weather, cook outside whatever you like with it!
I wouldn't leave home without it.
Cheers.
Ken
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
From: gburgss@yahoo.com.au
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 19:44:38 +0000
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Gas Bottle Storage - Trakka campers
Ken, Greg, Skot
Thanks for the input. Livivng in Tasmania there is every chance I will have to do a change of registration when I buy one (Hopefully Harts).
Options would be to remove alltogether or install a vented 'locker' (no nothing to do with diffs!) on the drivers side and loose some cupboard space.
I certainly wouldn't be cooking eggs and bacon inside the van but like the idea of being able to boil water for a brew.
With 2 young children I take onboard Skots comment about extra space.
Regards
Glenn
--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, Mr Scott Pitcher <spbconsulting@...> wrote:
>
> Greg,
>
> My thoughts exactly.
>
> I built one of these swing out cookers and had a 3 way fridge - both now
> gone - hated them both as they are smelly and in the case of the fridge
> - very inefficient.
>
> I now have lots more room (once I chuck all the wife and kids stuff in
> the awning) and a fridge that holds heaps and works great without any
> smell to gas out the occupants or risk of fire.
>
> Very happy with my current set up although a solar panel set up is on
> the cards.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Skot
>
>
> On 29/11/2012 9:24 PM, greg esposito wrote:
> > Hi Glenn, This may not be what you want to hear but the first thing I
> > did when I bought my bus was remove the swing out. They are too big,
> > too heavy and frankly useless. A portable two burner is far better.
> > Also the issue you touched on - I don't want to sleep with gas bottles
> > and gas fridges. Two way and solar is the way to go imho. Greg E
> >
> > *From:* gburgss <gburgss@...>
> > *To:* Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > *Sent:* Thursday, 29 November 2012 8:27 PM
> > *Subject:* [Syncro_T3_Australia] Gas Bottle Storage - Trakka campers
> > Hello all
> >
> > My first of what will no doubt be many questions.
> >
> > Can Trakka owners advise what if any issues they have with regard to
> > the Gas Bottle being stored below the swing out gas cookers.i.e - How
> > is this viewed by the various authorities when it is time to register
> > the vehicle. (or do you simply remove the unit before taking over the
> > pits?)
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Glenn
> >
> >
>
Thu Nov 29, 2012 5:46 pm (PST) . Posted by:
"plander@optusnet.com.au" hdvwoc
I think that the regulations state that the gas must be in a separate compartment, vented to the outside. I know of a lot of people being knocked back on pre '76 Sopru vans for this.
Phill
> Ken Garratt <unclekenz@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
Glenn,
Just to fly the flag for the Trakka gas cooker cupboard and add some balance to this topic.
I agree a danger potential is there. I have heard of death during sleep by gassing.
Premeditated? Negligent? Good practice?
I don't recall any report of a T3 Trakka camper being gutted by fire from a gas bottle
incident in the cooker cupboard. Is this based on pure luck or good practice?But I have seen
online T3 vans gutted by fire from a fault arising in the engine bay. So I ask you, where is
the REAL danger?
Treated with all due respect/diligence the gas bottle & cooker installation, including
periodic maintenance of the cooker appliance, checking and if necessary the replacement of
the gas bottle hose and replacement of all O-Rings/flat rubber washers to gas fittings plus
turning the gas bottle off after each use ... all these are a no brainer and stand a user
and their children in good stead. I contend your concerns emanate from instances where this
good practice has not occurred.
My Trakker cooker cupboard is terrific. Works just fine. Swings in and out as required. In
shite weather, makes a great cup of tea or coffee and toast inside, no problem. In great
weather, cook outside whatever you like with it!
I wouldn't leave home without it.
Cheers.
Ken
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
From: gburgss@yahoo.com.au
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 19:44:38 +0000
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Gas Bottle Storage - Trakka campers
Ken, Greg, Skot
Thanks for the input. Livivng in Tasmania there is every chance I will have to do a change
of registration when I buy one (Hopefully Harts).
Options would be to remove alltogether or install a vented 'locker' (no nothing to do with
diffs!) on the drivers side and loose some cupboard space.
I certainly wouldn't be cooking eggs and bacon inside the van but like the idea of being
able to boil water for a brew.
With 2 young children I take onboard Skots comment about extra space.
Regards
Glenn
--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, Mr Scott Pitcher <spbconsulting@...> wrote:
>
> Greg,
>
> My thoughts exactly.
>
> I built one of these swing out cookers and had a 3 way fridge - both now
> gone - hated them both as they are smelly and in the case of the fridge
> - very inefficient.
>
> I now have lots more room (once I chuck all the wife and kids stuff in
> the awning) and a fridge that holds heaps and works great without any
> smell to gas out the occupants or risk of fire.
>
> Very happy with my current set up although a solar panel set up is on
> the cards.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Skot
>
>
> On 29/11/2012 9:24 PM, greg esposito wrote:
> > Hi Glenn, This may not be what you want to hear but the first thing I
> > did when I bought my bus was remove the swing out. They are too big,
> > too heavy and frankly useless. A portable two burner is far better.
> > Also the issue you touched on - I don't want to sleep with gas bottles
> > and gas fridges. Two way and solar is the way to go imho. Greg E
> >
> > *From:* gburgss <gburgss@...>
> > *To:* Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > *Sent:* Thursday, 29 November 2012 8:27 PM
> > *Subject:* [Syncro_T3_Australia] Gas Bottle Storage - Trakka campers
> > Hello all
> >
> > My first of what will no doubt be many questions.
> >
> > Can Trakka owners advise what if any issues they have with regard to
> > the Gas Bottle being stored below the swing out gas cookers.i.e - How
> > is this viewed by the various authorities when it is time to register
> > the vehicle. (or do you simply remove the unit before taking over the
> > pits?)
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Glenn
> >
> >
>
Thu Nov 29, 2012 6:25 pm (PST) . Posted by:
"greg esposito" gregespo73
Did not realise you had kids Glenn. I have a two year and four year old. With the swingout installed I would not have enough room when we go camping. The other thing is it would be in the way of where we put the porta cot at night. I don't know how heavy the trakka ones are but my safari one is hard for one person to lift. Greg E
________________________________
From: "plander@optusnet.com.au" <plander@optusnet.com.au>
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, 30 November 2012 12:46 PM
Subject: Re: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Gas Bottle Storage - Trakka campers
I think that the regulations state that the gas must be in a separate compartment, vented to the outside. I know of a lot of people being knocked back on pre '76 Sopru vans for this.
Phill
> Ken Garratt <mailto:unclekenz%40hotmail.com> wrote:
>
Glenn,
Just to fly the flag for the Trakka gas cooker cupboard and add some balance to this topic.
I agree a danger potential is there. I have heard of death during sleep by gassing.
Premeditated? Negligent? Good practice?
I don't recall any report of a T3 Trakka camper being gutted by fire from a gas bottle
incident in the cooker cupboard. Is this based on pure luck or good practice?But I have seen
online T3 vans gutted by fire from a fault arising in the engine bay. So I ask you, where is
the REAL danger?
Treated with all due respect/diligence the gas bottle & cooker installation, including
periodic maintenance of the cooker appliance, checking and if necessary the replacement of
the gas bottle hose and replacement of all O-Rings/flat rubber washers to gas fittings plus
turning the gas bottle off after each use ... all these are a no brainer and stand a user
and their children in good stead. I contend your concerns emanate from instances where this
good practice has not occurred.
My Trakker cooker cupboard is terrific. Works just fine. Swings in and out as required. In
shite weather, makes a great cup of tea or coffee and toast inside, no problem. In great
weather, cook outside whatever you like with it!
I wouldn't leave home without it.
Cheers.
Ken
To: mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com
From: mailto:gburgss%40yahoo.com.au
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 19:44:38 +0000
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Gas Bottle Storage - Trakka campers
Ken, Greg, Skot
Thanks for the input. Livivng in Tasmania there is every chance I will have to do a change
of registration when I buy one (Hopefully Harts).
Options would be to remove alltogether or install a vented 'locker' (no nothing to do with
diffs!) on the drivers side and loose some cupboard space.
I certainly wouldn't be cooking eggs and bacon inside the van but like the idea of being
able to boil water for a brew.
With 2 young children I take onboard Skots comment about extra space.
Regards
Glenn
--- In mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com, Mr Scott Pitcher <spbconsulting@...> wrote:
>
> Greg,
>
> My thoughts exactly.
>
> I built one of these swing out cookers and had a 3 way fridge - both now
> gone - hated them both as they are smelly and in the case of the fridge
> - very inefficient.
>
> I now have lots more room (once I chuck all the wife and kids stuff in
> the awning) and a fridge that holds heaps and works great without any
> smell to gas out the occupants or risk of fire.
>
> Very happy with my current set up although a solar panel set up is on
> the cards.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Skot
>
>
> On 29/11/2012 9:24 PM, greg esposito wrote:
> > Hi Glenn, This may not be what you want to hear but the first thing I
> > did when I bought my bus was remove the swing out. They are too big,
> > too heavy and frankly useless. A portable two burner is far better.
> > Also the issue you touched on - I don't want to sleep with gas bottles
> > and gas fridges. Two way and solar is the way to go imho. Greg E
> >
> > *From:* gburgss <gburgss@...>
> > *To:* mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com
> > *Sent:* Thursday, 29 November 2012 8:27 PM
> > *Subject:* [Syncro_T3_Australia] Gas Bottle Storage - Trakka campers
> > Hello all
> >
> > My first of what will no doubt be many questions.
> >
> > Can Trakka owners advise what if any issues they have with regard to
> > the Gas Bottle being stored below the swing out gas cookers.i.e - How
> > is this viewed by the various authorities when it is time to register
> > the vehicle. (or do you simply remove the unit before taking over the
> > pits?)
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Glenn
> >
> >
>
Thu Nov 29, 2012 7:32 pm (PST) . Posted by:
"gburgss" gburgss
Gentlemen
Again thanks for the input - It would seem that there are dark forces working against me in my quest for a 90 - 92 factory T3 syncro poptop camper, first missing out on Rogers and now Harts.
Any help in 'Trakking' one down would be greatly appreciated - still it will give me more time to digest Decouplers, 15inch rims, diff locks and VC's !
Greg I have two boys 3&6 (at 49 I left my run a bit late but I keep telling myself they will keep me feeling young - so far so good)
Regards
Glenn
--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, greg esposito <gregespo73@...> wrote:
>
> Did not realise you had kids Glenn. I have a two year and four year old. With the swingout installed I would not have enough room when we go camping. The other thing is it would be in the way of where we put the porta cot at night. I don't know how heavy the trakka ones are but my safari one is hard for one person to lift. Greg E
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: "plander@..." <plander@...>
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Friday, 30 November 2012 12:46 PM
> Subject: Re: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Gas Bottle Storage - Trakka campers
>
>
> Â
>
> I think that the regulations state that the gas must be in a separate compartment, vented to the outside. I know of a lot of people being knocked back on pre '76 Sopru vans for this.
>
> Phill
>
> > Ken Garratt <mailto:unclekenz%40hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
>
> Glenn,
> Just to fly the flag for the Trakka gas cooker cupboard and add some balance to this topic.
> I agree a danger potential is there. I have heard of death during sleep by gassing.
> Premeditated? Negligent? Good practice?
> I don't recall any report of a T3 Trakka camper being gutted by fire from a gas bottle
> incident in the cooker cupboard. Is this based on pure luck or good practice?But I have seen
> online T3 vans gutted by fire from a fault arising in the engine bay. So I ask you, where is
> the REAL danger?
> Treated with all due respect/diligence the gas bottle & cooker installation, including
> periodic maintenance of the cooker appliance, checking and if necessary the replacement of
> the gas bottle hose and replacement of all O-Rings/flat rubber washers to gas fittings plus
> turning the gas bottle off after each use ... all these are a no brainer and stand a user
> and their children in good stead. I contend your concerns emanate from instances where this
> good practice has not occurred.
> My Trakker cooker cupboard is terrific. Works just fine. Swings in and out as required. In
> shite weather, makes a great cup of tea or coffee and toast inside, no problem. In great
> weather, cook outside whatever you like with it!
> I wouldn't leave home without it.
> Cheers.
> Ken
>
> To: mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com
> From: mailto:gburgss%40yahoo.com.au
> Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 19:44:38 +0000
> Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Gas Bottle Storage - Trakka campers
>
> Ken, Greg, Skot
>
> Thanks for the input. Livivng in Tasmania there is every chance I will have to do a change
> of registration when I buy one (Hopefully Harts).
>
> Options would be to remove alltogether or install a vented 'locker' (no nothing to do with
> diffs!) on the drivers side and loose some cupboard space.
>
> I certainly wouldn't be cooking eggs and bacon inside the van but like the idea of being
> able to boil water for a brew.
>
> With 2 young children I take onboard Skots comment about extra space.
>
> Regards
>
> Glenn
>
> --- In mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com, Mr Scott Pitcher <spbconsulting@> wrote:
>
> >
>
> > Greg,
>
> >
>
> > My thoughts exactly.
>
> >
>
> > I built one of these swing out cookers and had a 3 way fridge - both now
>
> > gone - hated them both as they are smelly and in the case of the fridge
>
> > - very inefficient.
>
> >
>
> > I now have lots more room (once I chuck all the wife and kids stuff in
>
> > the awning) and a fridge that holds heaps and works great without any
>
> > smell to gas out the occupants or risk of fire.
>
> >
>
> > Very happy with my current set up although a solar panel set up is on
>
> > the cards.
>
> >
>
> > Cheers,
>
> >
>
> > Skot
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > On 29/11/2012 9:24 PM, greg esposito wrote:
>
> > > Hi Glenn, This may not be what you want to hear but the first thing I
>
> > > did when I bought my bus was remove the swing out. They are too big,
>
> > > too heavy and frankly useless. A portable two burner is far better.
>
> > > Also the issue you touched on -
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