Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Digest Number 3690

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Made a very noticeable difference to power and braking. Doesn't like hills - have to change back a gear where you never needed to before. Slower pickup. Uses more petrol. Won't climb extremely steep gradients in Gelande gear as well, especially with a full load. More stress on CV joints and other components.

Greater unsprung weight has detrimental effect on ride and handling.

The only advantage is a small increase in ground clearance and a longer footprint which is occasionally useful in extreme conditions. But you pay for it the rest of the time.

Most people only went to 15" because BFG stopped sending them to Oz in 14".

If you could get decent 14" off-road tyres I would bolt them back on tomorrow. The VW engineers knew what they were doing when they chose the ratios ...


On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 8:58 PM, <Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

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Tue Nov 1, 2016 4:08 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

richo1166

On our camper trailer we had 2 of 4kg bottles that I did not want to swap and go. I purchased one of these to refill them at home myself. I paid $100 for it a couple of years ago..


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This way if I have a bottle that has some gas in it i.e. not completely mt but need a fill one to go away I don't give back that gas I just top up from a 9kg bottle...
You maybe able to use it for your Trakka bottles. ??


Tue Nov 1, 2016 5:04 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

richo1166

I expect that this has been discussed numerous times but just thought I'd ask anyway.
What are peoples experience been like going from standard 14" wheels to 15" and 215x75x15 BFG's?
With a standard 2.1 wbx engine. I have seen on other lists saying to expect a 9% loss in power, is this really that noticeble in a under powered car anyway...?
Thanks :)






Tue Nov 1, 2016 11:51 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Tom Mischler" energysustained@ymail.com

How can you loose power by putting bigger wheels on? Tom

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On Wed, 2 Nov, 2016 at 11:04, richo1166@yahoo.com.au [Syncro_T3_Australia]<Syncro_ T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

I expect that this has been discussed numerous times but just thought I'd ask anyway.

What are peoples experience been like going from standard 14" wheels to 15" and 215x75x15 BFG's?

With a standard 2.1 wbx engine. I have seen on other lists saying to expect a 9% loss in power, is this really that noticeble in a under powered car anyway...?

Thanks :)

Wed Nov 2, 2016 2:09 am (PDT) . Posted by:

hdvwoc

Not much difference except with braking.
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The ideal solution is to change your diff ratios to suit if you can't live with it.  This will also counter any additional stress on the driveline but is a big undertaking.  I normally like to try on a set to see how they are to live with before I buy them.  Sometimes you can get some discarded tyres from a tyre shop for nothing but 215 75 15 is an uncommon size.  Also you can buy cheap second hand on Ebay to try out the size.  I don't have any to lend at the moment but someone may have some old ones.  If you take out the tailshaft you can just put two on the back to see how the gearing and motor goes but wont tell you how the brakes feel.

Neil.


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Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Digest Number 3690

 
Made a very noticeable difference to power and braking. Doesn't like hills - have to change back a gear where you never needed to before. Slower pickup. Uses more petrol. Won't climb extremely steep gradients in Gelande gear as well, especially with a full load. More stress on CV joints and other components.

Greater unsprung weight has detrimental effect on ride and handling.

The only advantage is a small increase in ground clearance and a longer footprint which is occasionally useful in extreme conditions. But you pay for it the rest of the time.

Most people only went to 15" because BFG stopped sending them to Oz in 14".

If you could get decent 14" off-road tyres I would bolt them back on tomorrow. The VW engineers knew what they were doing when they chose the ratios ...


On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 8:58 PM, <Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

4 Messages

Digest #3690

Messages

Tue Nov 1, 2016 4:08 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

richo1166

On our camper trailer we had 2 of 4kg bottles that I did not want to swap and go. I purchased one of these to refill them at home myself. I paid $100 for it a couple of years ago..


LPG Filler Gun & Hose Plus Adapters | eBay http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/ LPG-Filler-Gun-Hose-Plus- Adapters-/231620669166


http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/ LPG-Filler-Gun-Hose-Plus- Adapters-/231620669166

LPG Filler Gun & Hose Plus Adapters | eBay http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/ LPG-Filler-Gun-Hose-Plus- Adapters-/231620669166 LPG Filler Gun & Hose, comes with 3/8 camper, Primus cylinder Adapters, and Automotive 1 3/4" Acme filler adapter. This kit is suited to refilling of standard ...



View on www.ebay.com.au http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/ LPG-Filler-Gun-Hose-Plus- Adapters-/231620669166
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This way if I have a bottle that has some gas in it i.e. not completely mt but need a fill one to go away I don't give back that gas I just top up from a 9kg bottle...
You maybe able to use it for your Trakka bottles. ??


Tue Nov 1, 2016 5:04 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

richo1166

I expect that this has been discussed numerous times but just thought I'd ask anyway.
What are peoples experience been like going from standard 14" wheels to 15" and 215x75x15 BFG's?
With a standard 2.1 wbx engine. I have seen on other lists saying to expect a 9% loss in power, is this really that noticeble in a under powered car anyway...?
Thanks :)






Tue Nov 1, 2016 11:51 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Tom Mischler" energysustained@ymail.com

How can you loose power by putting bigger wheels on?  Tom

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On Wed, 2 Nov, 2016 at 11:04, richo1166@yahoo.com.au [Syncro_T3_Australia]<Syncro_ T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com> wrote:  

I expect that this has been discussed numerous times but just thought I'd ask anyway.

What are peoples experience been like going from standard 14" wheels to 15" and 215x75x15 BFG's?

With a standard 2.1 wbx engine.   I have seen on other lists saying to expect a 9% loss in power, is this really that noticeble in a under powered car anyway...?

Thanks  :)

Wed Nov 2, 2016 2:09 am (PDT) . Posted by:

hdvwoc

Not much difference except with braking.
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    By my calculation the difference is only 5%


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    Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Digest Number 3690

     
    The ideal solution is to change your diff ratios to suit if you can't live with it.  This will also counter any additional stress on the driveline but is a big undertaking.  I normally like to try on a set to see how they are to live with before I buy them.  Sometimes you can get some discarded tyres from a tyre shop for nothing but 215 75 15 is an uncommon size.  Also you can buy cheap second hand on Ebay to try out the size.  I don't have any to lend at the moment but someone may have some old ones.  If you take out the tailshaft you can just put two on the back to see how the gearing and motor goes but wont tell you how the brakes feel.

    Neil.


    From: "Roger Bayley gullyraker53@gmail.com [Syncro_T3_Australia]" <Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com>
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    Sent: Wednesday, 2 November 2016, 21:57
    Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Digest Number 3690

     
    Made a very noticeable difference to power and braking. Doesn't like hills - have to change back a gear where you never needed to before. Slower pickup. Uses more petrol. Won't climb extremely steep gradients in Gelande gear as well, especially with a full load. More stress on CV joints and other components.

    Greater unsprung weight has detrimental effect on ride and handling.

    The only advantage is a small increase in ground clearance and a longer footprint which is occasionally useful in extreme conditions. But you pay for it the rest of the time.

    Most people only went to 15" because BFG stopped sending them to Oz in 14".

    If you could get decent 14" off-road tyres I would bolt them back on tomorrow. The VW engineers knew what they were doing when they chose the ratios ...


    On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 8:58 PM, <Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

    4 Messages

    Digest #3690

    Messages

    Tue Nov 1, 2016 4:08 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

    richo1166

    On our camper trailer we had 2 of 4kg bottles that I did not want to swap and go. I purchased one of these to refill them at home myself. I paid $100 for it a couple of years ago..


    LPG Filler Gun & Hose Plus Adapters | eBay http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/ LPG-Filler-Gun-Hose-Plus- Adapters-/231620669166


    http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/ LPG-Filler-Gun-Hose-Plus- Adapters-/231620669166

    LPG Filler Gun & Hose Plus Adapters | eBay http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/ LPG-Filler-Gun-Hose-Plus- Adapters-/231620669166 LPG Filler Gun & Hose, comes with 3/8 camper, Primus cylinder Adapters, and Automotive 1 3/4" Acme filler adapter. This kit is suited to refilling of standard ...



    View on www.ebay.com.au http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/ LPG-Filler-Gun-Hose-Plus- Adapters-/231620669166
    Preview by Yahoo



    This way if I have a bottle that has some gas in it i.e. not completely mt but need a fill one to go away I don't give back that gas I just top up from a 9kg bottle...
    You maybe able to use it for your Trakka bottles. ??


    Tue Nov 1, 2016 5:04 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

    richo1166

    I expect that this has been discussed numerous times but just thought I'd ask anyway.
    What are peoples experience been like going from standard 14" wheels to 15" and 215x75x15 BFG's?
    With a standard 2.1 wbx engine. I have seen on other lists saying to expect a 9% loss in power, is this really that noticeble in a under powered car anyway...?
    Thanks :)






    Tue Nov 1, 2016 11:51 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

    "Tom Mischler" energysustained@ymail.com

    How can you loose power by putting bigger wheels on?  Tom

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    On Wed, 2 Nov, 2016 at 11:04, richo1166@yahoo.com.au [Syncro_T3_Australia]<Syncro_ T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com> wrote:  

    I expect that this has been discussed numerous times but just thought I'd ask anyway.

    What are peoples experience been like going from standard 14" wheels to 15" and 215x75x15 BFG's?

    With a standard 2.1 wbx engine.   I have seen on other lists saying to expect a 9% loss in power, is this really that noticeble in a under powered car anyway...?

    Thanks  :)

    Wed Nov 2, 2016 2:09 am (PDT) . Posted by:

    hdvwoc

    Not much difference except with braking.
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      I worked it out by actual rolling radius on new tyres and got around 3%