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hi Alf,
for sure ...tdi syncro's and hill climbing
..
I have read about tdi Syncro vans that will
climb straight up steep stuff, at idle, foot not even on the 'go pedal'
!
you may know of our event
here..
Syncro De Mayo ( that name is
take-off on Cinco De Mayo ... ...a holiday celibrting the 5th Of May
..
Mexican revolution , something like that )
..
anyway, I went a few years ago ...
syncro's left and right climbing up steep
stuff...
Even a few syncro's that are trailered to events
and are only off road vehicles.
but most driven there ...great event ..go if you
ever get the chance. On the West Caost of the US it's held
near Holister, CA ....and an off road park called Saddleback Mountain I
think, something like that. Easy to look up on a google search.
their awesome all right ..
and absolutely ....a good TDI will
make strong low end crunt like a petrol engine never
can.
no denying that !
All depends on what you like and what you want
your Syncro to be best at.
My preference would be for roaming in desolate
areas on really bad 'roads' ..
not climbing up goat trails ...but whatever
turns people on !
Scott
----- Original Message -----From: alf andoSent: Monday, July 26, 2010 1:57 AMSubject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia]repowering, Coolant Pipes, Down Under,Razorback, T3twincab
Thanks for that scott. I don't know where the A came from . When I was in germany for the syncro 25, I spoke to so many people including Jean Louise from the busman , and he said 1,9 TDI was the only way to go, and the performens we saw from these vehicle climbing hills was out standing.Alf
From: Scott Daniel - Turbovans <ScottDaniel@ turbovans. com>
To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, 26 July, 2010 8:28:34 AM
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australi a]repowering, Coolant Pipes, Down Under,Razorback, T3twincab
Hi Alf,TDI engines in North America are easy to find.( don't know what you mean by TDIA though ).they're expensive.one guy I know with one...might still have it, and all the stuff to go with it suppossidly ..I think it's around $ 4000 US.personally I think the greatest advantage to a tid engine is bragging rights.get on the tdi-conversion list. Read about the blow turbo's etc.not to ruin your fun,and people are driving full electronic TDI engines in syncro's ..and TDI's converted to pure mechanical injection pump and no electronics, and they're happy ...I just think they are expesnive to get, have expensvie problems much to easily,and are complex with electronics and intercooler. .even watercooled intercoolers with their own separate cooling system.but people are nutty about them for sure ..but long term ..and in terms of pure practicality and longevity ..I'd say you want to really take good care of one. and be very smart about it.I'm gathering that much of your driving or adventuing conditions are poking along on the level more or less, with maybe 100 Kph max ...and spending most of the time below that.Which would be really easy on most engines.here........ there are 8 mile long freeway grades and it's 90 F outside..cars are zooming by left and right at 80 mph sometimes ( only slight exgerration )and we want to cruise on highways at say .....75 mph.put all that together, using a car engine to push a large and heavy syncro van ...it's rough on things.I know of two tdi syhcros' one mechanical, one fully electronic..and this might not souund like a big deal to you guys .but they are limited to 45 mph on long grades due to EGT's getting to high.they have the power to go faster ...but EGT's will get too high, even with very efficenint intercooler setups.That probably sounds just fine to you guys ../45 mph on long grades...but here there can be many of those long grades where the speed limit is 70mph ..so you'r rather not be in the far right lane with the big trucks ..oh fuel milage, that' one big reason people drive diesels..the electronic tdi sycnro I work on sometimes ..guy gets about 25 mpg ( sorry, with effort I could convert that to your milage system ..but that's 'rather ordinary' for a big van...in waterboxer .....a wbxr syncro will do 20 mph with normal size tires and driving it nicely.a six cyliner Subaru Syncro ..will do 14 to 17 mpg.in that light, 25 mpg looks great !and I imagine you'd be satisfied with that fuel milage figure - 25 mpg.it bothers me that the timing belt is so hyper critical...I think those smaller late model turbo's wear out easily ( though our driving conditions might be much rougher on our turbo's than your driving conditions might be ....here it is often hot, fast, and long grades to climb - there's one guy who got one year out of tdi turbo ..though oil flow angles might have been wrong, maybe that was a cheap turbo etc...but he's not happy. He's on his 3rd turbo now, with fingers crossed. ) ..and the elctronics ..if you're all on top of that with VAG-COM and all that ...sure, they're like any modern electronically controlled engine, more or less.sure ....gotta have a tdi !oh ...I value longevity, durability, and reliability most of all.let's say......... ........ it's not automatically gurannteed at all that you'll get that in a tdi engine in a syncro ..perhaps half or up to 3/4 of the people do ...but not 95 % of them , I can say that for sure.and if it's something you always wanted ...well, then you gotta get that out of your system and go for it.and study on the tdi-conversion list.lol,Scott----- Original Message -----From: bencroft96Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2010 4:09 AMSubject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australi a]repowering, Coolant Pipes, Down Under,Razorback, T3twincabAlf,Ebay,There is heaps of Golf engines etc.You can even buy a brand new WBX long motor.1900 US
--- In Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com, alf ando <dansk53bus@. ..> wrote:
>
> HIÂ Scott. How hard is it to find a 1,9 TDIÂ at your end , must have ECU and
> wiring loom, 1,9 TDI has been on my wish list for along time.
>
> Regards
> Alf
>
>
>
>
> ____________ _________ _________ __
> From: Scott Daniel - Turbovans <ScottDaniel@ ...>
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Sun, 25 July, 2010 1:17:18 PM
> Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australi a]repowering, Coolant Pipes, Down
> Under,Razorback, T3twincab
>
> Â
> hi,
> re
> They sure do keep you busy these syncros
>
> man you can say that again ..
> talk about a 'labor intensive' vehicle..
> the engine part is the easy part even ...
> syncro's have things so packed there around the fuel tank, in the front
> suspension etc.
>
>
> do you guys have much rust down there ? Probalby not.
> not much rust in Oregon where I am ..
> but some syncro's from Canada, Alaska, and other northern climes are just
> desperately rusted from one end to the other.  Like almost 'not repairable.'
>
> Scott
> www.turbovans. com
> ----- Original Message -----
> >From: Gary Cookson
> >To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
> >Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 8:38 PM
> >Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australi a]repowering, Coolant Pipes, Down
> >Under,Razorback, T3twincab
> >
> >Â
> >Hi Scott thanks appreciate the info. I don't see any point putting in a
> >wasserboxer as the chances of finding a good one seem slim. I'm leaning towards
> >an AAZ diesel.
> >
> >
> >
> >It seems i can run my existing turbo which is fairly new and so keep my 1.6
> >exhaust manifold (which i reground flat at Christmas) and also use the Bosch
> >pump on my 1.6.
> >
> >
> >So if i get that rebuilt (at great expense) it will keep me going while i hunt
> >for an aaz and can then be reused on the aaz even.Â
> >
> >
> >I think i'd prefer to stick with diesel but i'm not ruling out a 4 pot petrol.
> >
> >
> >They sure do keep you busy these syncros!
> >Gary
> >
> >
> >
> >On 25/07/2010, at 10:35 AM, Scott Daniel - Turbovans wrote:
> >
> >Â
> >>
> >>
> >>re
> >>"Converting mine to a wasserboxer would be quite difficult though"
> >>
> >>don't know if you know this about me or not ..
> >>but 'what I do' is engine conversions to vanagons and syncro's ..full time..Â
> >>
> >>as long as you are not thinking about changing gearing in the differentials.
> ..
> >>I think a waterboxer engine will fall right in, more or less.
> >>
> >>syncro petrol and diesel tanks are different ..but I think the diesel tank will
> >>clear a waterboxer starter just fine ( going the other way it will not though )
> >>
> >>
> >>that would be my only question ...about fuel tank and starter clearance with a
> >>waterboxer engine and diesel syncro fuel tank.
> >>swapping the tank to run on gasoline ..
> >>shouldn't be a problem. ..
> >>just need the various bits and some patience and a good working space .
> >>
> >>and since you already have in inline four ..
> >>and might prefer petrol..
> >>that makes one think of various inline four petrol engines that might work
> >>nicely ..
> >>and VW ones are a pure-bolt in, pretty much.
> >>
> >>Given the uh...'challenges' that waterboxer engines have, namely joke 'head
> >>gaskets'...
> >>a cast iron block, aluminum OHC inline four petrol VW engine looks fairly
> >>attractive.
> >>
> >>i have an 87 jetta 1.8 16 valve DOHC inline four petrol engine I hope to find
> >>time to put in one of my vans one of these days... 123 hp at 5,000-something
> >>rpm.
> >>
> >>not a torque monster though, like you most likely would  prefer for a Syncro.
> >>
> >>what fun these fine machines are !
> >>Scott
> >>www.turbovans. com
> >>----- Original Message -----
> >>>From: Gary Cookson
> >>>To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
> >>>Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 3:15 PM
> >>>Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australi a]repowering, Coolant Pipes, Down
> >>>Under,Razorback, T3twincab
> >>>
> >>>Â
> >>>Hi Roger, thanks for the info and offer of trying out your beastie. Converting
> >>>mine to a wasserboxer would be quite difficult though, i've spent hours reading
> >>>about fitting an aaz which seems the most straightforward but still not that
> >>>easy. I'm still waiting to hear the verdict on the state of my current engine.
> >>>The diesel chap promised to ring on Friday so i expect i'll find out about
> >>>Wednesday.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Weirdly enough one of my clients here is the daughter of Mr Hunt of Hunt Heating
> >>>and she and her husband run a heating company here in Melbourne. I'm happy to
> >>>try and find out more about the pipes if that would help.Â
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Cheers
> >>>Gary
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>On 24/07/2010, at 11:13 PM, Roger Bell wrote:
> >>>
> >>>Â
> >>>>Dear Everyone,
> >>>>Lots of things to reply to here, some of which  complement each other.
> >>>>
> >>>>Les first -sorry have looked through all my T4 and miscellaneous stuff and don't
> >>>>seem to have kept the razorback brochure (1 page from memory). Will contact you
> >>>>if I ever come across it.
> >>>>
> >>>>Coolant Pipes.
> >>>>Bruce
> >>>>My brother rang me from Gove and I was able to ascertain and ring the local
> >>>>(Victorian distributor Hunt Heating 1300 001 800 (Still no reply from UK
> >>>>manufacturer) They(Mick in sales) told me they can supply from stock Multilayer
> >>>>composite (MLC) pipe in 5Â metre lengths of 32mm or 40mm o/d.($66 and $122
> >>>>respectively plus gst.)Â He could not immediately verify it but he thought the
> >>>>wall thickness was about 3mm. They have an aluminium core which allows them to
> >>>>bend to the curve needed but this is best done with a spring insert as when
> >>>>bending copper pipe.. My brother said the advantage of this MLC pipe  is that if
> >>>>you kink it on bending you can take it back to the original shape with a heat
> >>>>gun.
> >>>>
> >>>>Ralph supplied the following on the go Westy brass insert kit which confirms a
> >>>>one and half inch size which would need the 40mm pipe. The kit would probably be
> >>>>the best way of joining to the rubber connecting pipes but it would add to the
> >>>>cost (USD49 + freight.
> >>>>
> >>>>Coolant Pipe Repair Kit
> >>>>
> >>>>Click To Enlarge
> >>>>Part # 251-121-399KIT
> >>>>Works with: 1986 - 1991
> >>>>Weight: 3.00 lbs
> >>>>Our Price: $49.95
> >>>> Get $2.50 GoBucks
> >>>>upon purchase!
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>My brother said he would be happy to facilitate things for you Bruce including
> >>>>providing a sample once he gets home early Sept. but IÂ would imagine you want
> >>>>to get back on the road before that. I take it the Go Westy kit wouldn't solve
> >>>>the problem by itself?
> >>>>
> >>>>Repowering
> >>>>Gary, Bruce of coolant pipe fame installed an inline VW (1.8??) in his Petrol
> >>>>Syncro and could probably add something for your consideration. What about the
> >>>>twin cab power and transmission  below supplied by Andy?
> >>>>I've been driving around lately thinking the 2.1 wasserboxer engine in my car
> >>>>with my 70 profile x 16" tyres really isn't too bad in the way it performs
> >>>>around town and on the highway. Â Perhaps its the denser air of winter in
> >>>>Melbourne or perhaps they finally got them right by the end of '92. If you would
> >>>>like to borrow it for a couple of days to think about whether the
> >>>>relatively more simple alternative of a sound 2.1 petrol engine might fit the
> >>>>bill then you would be welcome as long as it doesn't come back with a clapped
> >>>>out diesel engine in it!.
> >>>>On why the price of  diesel doesn't fluctuate like petrol I was told that the
> >>>>major users like Linfox and Toll put their not inconsiderable requirements out
> >>>>to tender whereas the likes of you and me have insufficient buying power even in
> >>>>aggregate to warrant the competition reflected in petrol prices. As remarked
> >>>>before govt. excise also makes a difference according to useage eg on farm.
> >>>>
> >>>>Â
> >>>>Here ended the 1st lesson. I'm going away to write out 500 times I must be more
> >>>>succinct.
> >>>>
> >>>>Cheers
> >>>>Roger
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>--- On Fri, 23/7/10, Andy Sinclair <andy@...> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>From: Andy Sinclair <andy@...>
> >>>>>Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australi a] Coolant Pipes, Down Under, T3twincab
> >>>>>To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
> >>>>>Received: Friday, 23 July, 2010, 5:41 AM
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Â
> >>>>>Hi Roger and all,
> >>>>>The T3 twin cab belongs to a friend of mine. It has a Subaru SVX 3.3
> >>>>>litre engine running on LPG with an auto transmission. Its not a Syncro but he
> >>>>>wishes it was. I have driven this car a few times and its awesome, so much
> >>>>>power. He has also upgraded the rear brakes with the rear disc brake kit from
> >>>>>Queensland. Nice car!
> >>>>>Cheers, Andy.Â
> >>>>>Â
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>From: Roger Bell
> >>>>>Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 2:34 AM
> >>>>>To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
> >>>>>Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australi a] Coolant Pipes, Down Under, T3twincab
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Â
> >>>>>Dear Bruce,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Sorry haven't been back on the coolant pipe substitutes. My Hydonic Heating
> >>>>>brother is out of contact off in the "Nothing" part of the country on Ben's
> >>>>>map in his Hilux and I have lost the name of the local distributor. I sent a
> >>>>>request for this to the UK manufacturer and asked them for advice on our problem
> >>>>>with the prospect of regular sales but to date have had a stoney silence. If you
> >>>>>wanted additions to Ben's map obviously you would need to include Collingwood
> >>>>>supporters and those offering free home roofing installation. They were filming
> >>>>>"Underbelly" further down my street last week so I suppose you should
> >>>>>also include my suburb and I should double chain my syncro to the nearest
> >>>>>lampost.
> >>>>>Does anyone have the name of the Australian distributor from an earlier posting
> >>>>>of mine and/or the internal and external diameter of the coolant pipes. I'm not
> >>>>>keen to disturb mine to measure them internally.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Les I'm still raking through my hoard to see if I retained a brochure of the
> >>>>>razorback. Will post it to the group and snail mail it to you if I locate it.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>On another tack pulled up alongside a nicely preserved white T3 twincab ute at
> >>>>>traffic lights the other day noting a small enamel plate on the rear and side
> >>>>>door with "twin cam boxer" on it . I was in my Camry and the driver looked
> >>>>>across at me with that self satisfied "if you owned one you would understand"
> >>>>>look on his face. It had a decker plate cover over the rear but I don't think it
> >>>>>was a Syncro. Anyone in Victoria seen it and know what engine it runs?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Cheers
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Roger
> >>>>>--- On Thu, 15/7/10, Alison & Bruce Black <royalb@aapt. net.au> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>From: Alison & Bruce Black <royalb@aapt. net.au>
> >>>>>>Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australi a] Coolant Pipes, Down Under
> >>>>>>To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
> >>>>>>Received: Thursday, 15 July, 2010, 6:24 AM
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Â
> >>>>>>Hello Roger
> >>>>>>Good to have you back. Thanks for the info. I am
> >>>>>>still mobile just need to do something about it reasonably soon.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Pity about the stash of cash Ken was talking about, as that day one
> >>>>>>of my daughter's had just cost me a few thousand. Still that what a
> >>>>>>family is all about, no complaints. On second thoughts that money
> >>>>>>could have done wonders for the syncro!!!!!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Roger, been waiting for you to add a few extra bits to BenT's Down
> >>>>>>Under map.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Bruce
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>Â
> >>>>Â
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >
> >
> >
>
Well guys just for everyone who is following my engine thread. The leak down test showed the bores to be in good shape so i'm getting the pump rebuilt.
It should be interesting to see how much better the 1.6 goes with a good pump and if i do go with an AAZ, maybe Harts, I can reuse my pump and turbo with the AAZ.
cheers
Gary
On 26/07/2010, at 7:43 PM, Scott Daniel - Turbovans wrote:
hi Alf,for sure ...tdi syncro's and hill climbing ..I have read about tdi Syncro vans that will climb straight up steep stuff, at idle, foot not even on the 'go pedal' !you may know of our event here..Syncro De Mayo ( that name is take-off on Cinco De Mayo ... ...a holiday celibrting the 5th Of May ..Mexican revolution , something like that ) ..anyway, I went a few years ago ...syncro's left and right climbing up steep stuff...Even a few syncro's that are trailered to events and are only off road vehicles.but most driven there ...great event ..go if you ever get the chance. On the West Caost of the US it's held near Holister, CA ....and an off road park called Saddleback Mountain I think, something like that. Easy to look up on a google search.their awesome all right ..and absolutely ....a good TDI will make strong low end crunt like a petrol engine never can.no denying that !All depends on what you like and what you want your Syncro to be best at.My preference would be for roaming in desolate areas on really bad 'roads' ..not climbing up goat trails ...but whatever turns people on !Scott----- Original Message -----From: alf andoSent: Monday, July 26, 2010 1:57 AMSubject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australi a]repowering, Coolant Pipes, Down Under,Razorback, T3twincabThanks for that scott. I don't know where the A came from . When I was in germany for the syncro 25, I spoke to so many people including Jean Louise from the busman , and he said 1,9 TDI was the only way to go, and the performens we saw from these vehicle climbing hills was out standing.Alf
From: Scott Daniel - Turbovans <ScottDaniel@ turbovans. com>
To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, 26 July, 2010 8:28:34 AM
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australi a]repowering, Coolant Pipes, Down Under,Razorback, T3twincab
Hi Alf,TDI engines in North America are easy to find.( don't know what you mean by TDIA though ).they're expensive.one guy I know with one...might still have it, and all the stuff to go with it suppossidly ..I think it's around $ 4000 US.personally I think the greatest advantage to a tid engine is bragging rights.get on the tdi-conversion list. Read about the blow turbo's etc.not to ruin your fun,and people are driving full electronic TDI engines in syncro's ..and TDI's converted to pure mechanical injection pump and no electronics, and they're happy ...I just think they are expesnive to get, have expensvie problems much to easily,and are complex with electronics and intercooler. .even watercooled intercoolers with their own separate cooling system.but people are nutty about them for sure ..but long term ..and in terms of pure practicality and longevity ..I'd say you want to really take good care of one. and be very smart about it.I'm gathering that much of your driving or adventuing conditions are poking along on the level more or less, with maybe 100 Kph max ...and spending most of the time below that.Which would be really easy on most engines.here........ there are 8 mile long freeway grades and it's 90 F outside..cars are zooming by left and right at 80 mph sometimes ( only slight exgerration )and we want to cruise on highways at say .....75 mph.put all that together, using a car engine to push a large and heavy syncro van ...it's rough on things.I know of two tdi syhcros' one mechanical, one fully electronic..and this might not souund like a big deal to you guys .but they are limited to 45 mph on long grades due to EGT's getting to high.they have the power to go faster ...but EGT's will get too high, even with very efficenint intercooler setups.That probably sounds just fine to you guys ../45 mph on long grades...but here there can be many of those long grades where the speed limit is 70mph ..so you'r rather not be in the far right lane with the big trucks ..oh fuel milage, that' one big reason people drive diesels..the electronic tdi sycnro I work on sometimes ..guy gets about 25 mpg ( sorry, with effort I could convert that to your milage system ..but that's 'rather ordinary' for a big van...in waterboxer .....a wbxr syncro will do 20 mph with normal size tires and driving it nicely.a six cyliner Subaru Syncro ..will do 14 to 17 mpg.in that light, 25 mpg looks great !and I imagine you'd be satisfied with that fuel milage figure - 25 mpg.it bothers me that the timing belt is so hyper critical...I think those smaller late model turbo's wear out easily ( though our driving conditions might be much rougher on our turbo's than your driving conditions might be ....here it is often hot, fast, and long grades to climb - there's one guy who got one year out of tdi turbo ..though oil flow angles might have been wrong, maybe that was a cheap turbo etc...but he's not happy. He's on his 3rd turbo now, with fingers crossed. ) ..and the elctronics ..if you're all on top of that with VAG-COM and all that ...sure, they're like any modern electronically controlled engine, more or less.sure ....gotta have a tdi !oh ...I value longevity, durability, and reliability most of all.let's say......... ........ it's not automatically gurannteed at all that you'll get that in a tdi engine in a syncro ..perhaps half or up to 3/4 of the people do ...but not 95 % of them , I can say that for sure.and if it's something you always wanted ...well, then you gotta get that out of your system and go for it.and study on the tdi-conversion list.lol,Scott----- Original Message -----From: bencroft96Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2010 4:09 AMSubject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australi a]repowering, Coolant Pipes, Down Under,Razorback, T3twincabAlf,Ebay,There is heaps of Golf engines etc.You can even buy a brand new WBX long motor.1900 US
--- In Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com, alf ando <dansk53bus@. ..> wrote:
>
> HIÂ Scott. How hard is it to find a 1,9 TDIÂ at your end , must have ECU and
> wiring loom, 1,9 TDI has been on my wish list for along time.
>
> Regards
> Alf
>
>
>
>
> ____________ _________ _________ __
> From: Scott Daniel - Turbovans <ScottDaniel@ ...>
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Sun, 25 July, 2010 1:17:18 PM
> Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australi a]repowering, Coolant Pipes, Down
> Under,Razorback, T3twincab
>
> Â
> hi,
> re
> They sure do keep you busy these syncros
>
> man you can say that again ..
> talk about a 'labor intensive' vehicle..
> the engine part is the easy part even ...
> syncro's have things so packed there around the fuel tank, in the front
> suspension etc.
>
>
> do you guys have much rust down there ? Probalby not.
> not much rust in Oregon where I am ..
> but some syncro's from Canada, Alaska, and other northern climes are just
> desperately rusted from one end to the other.  Like almost 'not repairable.'
>
> Scott
> www.turbovans. com
> ----- Original Message -----
> >From: Gary Cookson
> >To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
> >Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 8:38 PM
> >Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australi a]repowering, Coolant Pipes, Down
> >Under,Razorback, T3twincab
> >
> >Â
> >Hi Scott thanks appreciate the info. I don't see any point putting in a
> >wasserboxer as the chances of finding a good one seem slim. I'm leaning towards
> >an AAZ diesel.
> >
> >
> >
> >It seems i can run my existing turbo which is fairly new and so keep my 1.6
> >exhaust manifold (which i reground flat at Christmas) and also use the Bosch
> >pump on my 1.6.
> >
> >
> >So if i get that rebuilt (at great expense) it will keep me going while i hunt
> >for an aaz and can then be reused on the aaz even.Â
> >
> >
> >I think i'd prefer to stick with diesel but i'm not ruling out a 4 pot petrol.
> >
> >
> >They sure do keep you busy these syncros!
> >Gary
> >
> >
> >
> >On 25/07/2010, at 10:35 AM, Scott Daniel - Turbovans wrote:
> >
> >Â
> >>
> >>
> >>re
> >>"Converting mine to a wasserboxer would be quite difficult though"
> >>
> >>don't know if you know this about me or not ..
> >>but 'what I do' is engine conversions to vanagons and syncro's ..full time..Â
> >>
> >>as long as you are not thinking about changing gearing in the differentials.
> ..
> >>I think a waterboxer engine will fall right in, more or less.
> >>
> >>syncro petrol and diesel tanks are different ..but I think the diesel tank will
> >>clear a waterboxer starter just fine ( going the other way it will not though )
> >>
> >>
> >>that would be my only question ...about fuel tank and starter clearance with a
> >>waterboxer engine and diesel syncro fuel tank.
> >>swapping the tank to run on gasoline ..
> >>shouldn't be a problem. ..
> >>just need the various bits and some patience and a good working space .
> >>
> >>and since you already have in inline four ..
> >>and might prefer petrol..
> >>that makes one think of various inline four petrol engines that might work
> >>nicely ..
> >>and VW ones are a pure-bolt in, pretty much.
> >>
> >>Given the uh...'challenges' that waterboxer engines have, namely joke 'head
> >>gaskets'...
> >>a cast iron block, aluminum OHC inline four petrol VW engine looks fairly
> >>attractive.
> >>
> >>i have an 87 jetta 1.8 16 valve DOHC inline four petrol engine I hope to find
> >>time to put in one of my vans one of these days... 123 hp at 5,000-something
> >>rpm.
> >>
> >>not a torque monster though, like you most likely would  prefer for a Syncro.
> >>
> >>what fun these fine machines are !
> >>Scott
> >>www.turbovans. com
> >>----- Original Message -----
> >>>From: Gary Cookson
> >>>To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
> >>>Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 3:15 PM
> >>>Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australi a]repowering, Coolant Pipes, Down
> >>>Under,Razorback, T3twincab
> >>>
> >>>Â
> >>>Hi Roger, thanks for the info and offer of trying out your beastie. Converting
> >>>mine to a wasserboxer would be quite difficult though, i've spent hours reading
> >>>about fitting an aaz which seems the most straightforward but still not that
> >>>easy. I'm still waiting to hear the verdict on the state of my current engine.
> >>>The diesel chap promised to ring on Friday so i expect i'll find out about
> >>>Wednesday.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Weirdly enough one of my clients here is the daughter of Mr Hunt of Hunt Heating
> >>>and she and her husband run a heating company here in Melbourne. I'm happy to
> >>>try and find out more about the pipes if that would help.Â
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Cheers
> >>>Gary
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>On 24/07/2010, at 11:13 PM, Roger Bell wrote:
> >>>
> >>>Â
> >>>>Dear Everyone,
> >>>>Lots of things to reply to here, some of which  complement each other.
> >>>>
> >>>>Les first -sorry have looked through all my T4 and miscellaneous stuff and don't
> >>>>seem to have kept the razorback brochure (1 page from memory). Will contact you
> >>>>if I ever come across it.
> >>>>
> >>>>Coolant Pipes.
> >>>>Bruce
> >>>>My brother rang me from Gove and I was able to ascertain and ring the local
> >>>>(Victorian distributor Hunt Heating 1300 001 800 (Still no reply from UK
> >>>>manufacturer) They(Mick in sales) told me they can supply from stock Multilayer
> >>>>composite (MLC) pipe in 5Â metre lengths of 32mm or 40mm o/d.($66 and $122
> >>>>respectively plus gst.)Â He could not immediately verify it but he thought the
> >>>>wall thickness was about 3mm. They have an aluminium core which allows them to
> >>>>bend to the curve needed but this is best done with a spring insert as when
> >>>>bending copper pipe.. My brother said the advantage of this MLC pipe  is that if
> >>>>you kink it on bending you can take it back to the original shape with a heat
> >>>>gun.
> >>>>
> >>>>Ralph supplied the following on the go Westy brass insert kit which confirms a
> >>>>one and half inch size which would need the 40mm pipe. The kit would probably be
> >>>>the best way of joining to the rubber connecting pipes but it would add to the
> >>>>cost (USD49 + freight.
> >>>>
> >>>>Coolant Pipe Repair Kit
> >>>>
> >>>>Click To Enlarge
> >>>>Part # 251-121-399KIT
> >>>>Works with: 1986 - 1991
> >>>>Weight: 3.00 lbs
> >>>>Our Price: $49.95
> >>>> Get $2.50 GoBucks
> >>>>upon purchase!
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>My brother said he would be happy to facilitate things for you Bruce including
> >>>>providing a sample once he gets home early Sept. but IÂ would imagine you want
> >>>>to get back on the road before that. I take it the Go Westy kit wouldn't solve
> >>>>the problem by itself?
> >>>>
> >>>>Repowering
> >>>>Gary, Bruce of coolant pipe fame installed an inline VW (1.8??) in his Petrol
> >>>>Syncro and could probably add something for your consideration. What about the
> >>>>twin cab power and transmission  below supplied by Andy?
> >>>>I've been driving around lately thinking the 2.1 wasserboxer engine in my car
> >>>>with my 70 profile x 16" tyres really isn't too bad in the way it performs
> >>>>around town and on the highway. Â Perhaps its the denser air of winter in
> >>>>Melbourne or perhaps they finally got them right by the end of '92. If you would
> >>>>like to borrow it for a couple of days to think about whether the
> >>>>relatively more simple alternative of a sound 2.1 petrol engine might fit the
> >>>>bill then you would be welcome as long as it doesn't come back with a clapped
> >>>>out diesel engine in it!.
> >>>>On why the price of  diesel doesn't fluctuate like petrol I was told that the
> >>>>major users like Linfox and Toll put their not inconsiderable requirements out
> >>>>to tender whereas the likes of you and me have insufficient buying power even in
> >>>>aggregate to warrant the competition reflected in petrol prices. As remarked
> >>>>before govt. excise also makes a difference according to useage eg on farm.
> >>>>
> >>>>Â
> >>>>Here ended the 1st lesson. I'm going away to write out 500 times I must be more
> >>>>succinct.
> >>>>
> >>>>Cheers
> >>>>Roger
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>--- On Fri, 23/7/10, Andy Sinclair <andy@...> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>From: Andy Sinclair <andy@...>
> >>>>>Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australi a] Coolant Pipes, Down Under, T3twincab
> >>>>>To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
> >>>>>Received: Friday, 23 July, 2010, 5:41 AM
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Â
> >>>>>Hi Roger and all,
> >>>>>The T3 twin cab belongs to a friend of mine. It has a Subaru SVX 3.3
> >>>>>litre engine running on LPG with an auto transmission. Its not a Syncro but he
> >>>>>wishes it was. I have driven this car a few times and its awesome, so much
> >>>>>power. He has also upgraded the rear brakes with the rear disc brake kit from
> >>>>>Queensland. Nice car!
> >>>>>Cheers, Andy.Â
> >>>>>Â
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>From: Roger Bell
> >>>>>Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 2:34 AM
> >>>>>To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
> >>>>>Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australi a] Coolant Pipes, Down Under, T3twincab
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Â
> >>>>>Dear Bruce,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Sorry haven't been back on the coolant pipe substitutes. My Hydonic Heating
> >>>>>brother is out of contact off in the "Nothing" part of the country on Ben's
> >>>>>map in his Hilux and I have lost the name of the local distributor. I sent a
> >>>>>request for this to the UK manufacturer and asked them for advice on our problem
> >>>>>with the prospect of regular sales but to date have had a stoney silence. If you
> >>>>>wanted additions to Ben's map obviously you would need to include Collingwood
> >>>>>supporters and those offering free home roofing installation. They were filming
> >>>>>"Underbelly" further down my street last week so I suppose you should
> >>>>>also include my suburb and I should double chain my syncro to the nearest
> >>>>>lampost.
> >>>>>Does anyone have the name of the Australian distributor from an earlier posting
> >>>>>of mine and/or the internal and external diameter of the coolant pipes. I'm not
> >>>>>keen to disturb mine to measure them internally.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Les I'm still raking through my hoard to see if I retained a brochure of the
> >>>>>razorback. Will post it to the group and snail mail it to you if I locate it.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>On another tack pulled up alongside a nicely preserved white T3 twincab ute at
> >>>>>traffic lights the other day noting a small enamel plate on the rear and side
> >>>>>door with "twin cam boxer" on it . I was in my Camry and the driver looked
> >>>>>across at me with that self satisfied "if you owned one you would understand"
> >>>>>look on his face. It had a decker plate cover over the rear but I don't think it
> >>>>>was a Syncro. Anyone in Victoria seen it and know what engine it runs?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Cheers
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Roger
> >>>>>--- On Thu, 15/7/10, Alison & Bruce Black <royalb@aapt. net.au> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>From: Alison & Bruce Black <royalb@aapt. net.au>
> >>>>>>Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australi a] Coolant Pipes, Down Under
> >>>>>>To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
> >>>>>>Received: Thursday, 15 July, 2010, 6:24 AM
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Â
> >>>>>>Hello Roger
> >>>>>>Good to have you back. Thanks for the info. I am
> >>>>>>still mobile just need to do something about it reasonably soon.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Pity about the stash of cash Ken was talking about, as that day one
> >>>>>>of my daughter's had just cost me a few thousand. Still that what a
> >>>>>>family is all about, no complaints. On second thoughts that money
> >>>>>>could have done wonders for the syncro!!!!!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Roger, been waiting for you to add a few extra bits to BenT's Down
> >>>>>>Under map.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Bruce
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>Â
> >>>>Â
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >
> >
> >
>
Good to see you found a way forward Gary. Would you need to modify your pump to use it on an aaz? Greg E--- On Mon, 26/7/10, Gary Cookson <gary@twentytwentyone.net> wrote: |
Just to correct Scott, note that 'Hollister Hills' is spelled with two 'L's' just like the clothing line. 2 hour drive from me.
TDI's are plentiful here. Good prices can be found with some diligent shopping. Six months ago, I bought a 1Z 1.9 TDI for US$500. It came with a 1996 Passat body w/ a broken transmission. Once the engine was harvested, I disposed of the body for $950. Yes, I made lunch money. Two months ago, I bought a 1996 Passat TDI in excellent running condition for $1,000. It's too good to be a donor. I put 5,000+ plus miles on her since. There's an '02 TDI with 3K miles at my buddy's shop. It's pricey at $4K but there is a transaxle with axles plus black leather seats from the donor car attached to the shipping pallet.
TDI Syncros roam all over Baja California. I know a few of the fellows who make it a monthly Syncro exercise. I know Jean-Louis Brion at busman.be. He's been to my house in California a few times. He keeps breaking transmissions but not his TDI. His last Syncro Westy used to be mine. All these TDI's drive thousands of miles with smiles all year.
30mpg in a ute. 25mpg in a Westy. My turbo Subie only gets 16mpg and it's only a 2wd. My 2.0 inline-4 gets 20mpg.
BenT
TDI's are plentiful here. Good prices can be found with some diligent shopping. Six months ago, I bought a 1Z 1.9 TDI for US$500. It came with a 1996 Passat body w/ a broken transmission. Once the engine was harvested, I disposed of the body for $950. Yes, I made lunch money. Two months ago, I bought a 1996 Passat TDI in excellent running condition for $1,000. It's too good to be a donor. I put 5,000+ plus miles on her since. There's an '02 TDI with 3K miles at my buddy's shop. It's pricey at $4K but there is a transaxle with axles plus black leather seats from the donor car attached to the shipping pallet.
TDI Syncros roam all over Baja California. I know a few of the fellows who make it a monthly Syncro exercise. I know Jean-Louis Brion at busman.be. He's been to my house in California a few times. He keeps breaking transmissions but not his TDI. His last Syncro Westy used to be mine. All these TDI's drive thousands of miles with smiles all year.
30mpg in a ute. 25mpg in a Westy. My turbo Subie only gets 16mpg and it's only a 2wd. My 2.0 inline-4 gets 20mpg.
BenT
I don't think so from what i've read just needs the fuel turned up a little. The 1.6 turbo also works so really only need an engine.
Cheers
Gary
On 26/07/2010, at 9:53 PM, greg esposito wrote:
Good to see you found a way forward Gary. Would you need to modify your pump to use it on an aaz? Greg E
--- On Mon, 26/7/10, Gary Cookson <gary@twentytwentyone.net> wrote:
From: Gary Cookson <gary@twentytwentyone.net>
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australi a]repowering, Coolant Pipes, Down Under,Razorback, T3twincab
To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
Received: Monday, 26 July, 2010, 9:42 PM
Well guys just for everyone who is following my engine thread. The leak down test showed the bores to be in good shape so i'm getting the pump rebuilt.It should be interesting to see how much better the 1.6 goes with a good pump and if i do go with an AAZ, maybe Harts, I can reuse my pump and turbo with the AAZ.cheersGary
On 26/07/2010, at 7:43 PM, Scott Daniel - Turbovans wrote:
hi Alf,for sure ...tdi syncro's and hill climbing ..I have read about tdi Syncro vans that will climb straight up steep stuff, at idle, foot not even on the 'go pedal' !you may know of our event here..Syncro De Mayo ( that name is take-off on Cinco De Mayo ... ...a holiday celibrting the 5th Of May ..Mexican revolution , something like that ) ..anyway, I went a few years ago ...syncro's left and right climbing up steep stuff...Even a few syncro's that are trailered to events and are only off road vehicles.but most driven there ...great event ..go if you ever get the chance. On the West Caost of the US it's held near Holister, CA ....and an off road park called Saddleback Mountain I think, something like that. Easy to look up on a google search.their awesome all right ..and absolutely ....a good TDI will make strong low end crunt like a petrol engine never can.no denying that !All depends on what you like and what you want your Syncro to be best at.My preference would be for roaming in desolate areas on really bad 'roads' ..not climbing up goat trails ...but whatever turns people on !Scott----- Original Message -----From: alf andoSent: Monday, July 26, 2010 1:57 AMSubject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australi a]repowering, Coolant Pipes, Down Under,Razorback, T3twincabThanks for that scott. I don't know where the A came from . When I was in germany for the syncro 25, I spoke to so many people including Jean Louise from the busman , and he said 1,9 TDI was the only way to go, and the performens we saw from these vehicle climbing hills was out standing.Alf
From: Scott Daniel - Turbovans <ScottDaniel@ turbovans. com>
To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, 26 July, 2010 8:28:34 AM
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australi a]repowering, Coolant Pipes, Down Under,Razorback, T3twincab
Hi Alf,TDI engines in North America are easy to find.( don't know what you mean by TDIA though ).they're expensive.one guy I know with one...might still have it, and all the stuff to go with it suppossidly ..I think it's around $ 4000 US.personally I think the greatest advantage to a tid engine is bragging rights.get on the tdi-conversion list. Read about the blow turbo's etc.not to ruin your fun,and people are driving full electronic TDI engines in syncro's ..and TDI's converted to pure mechanical injection pump and no electronics, and they're happy ...I just think they are expesnive to get, have expensvie problems much to easily,and are complex with electronics and intercooler. .even watercooled intercoolers with their own separate cooling system.but people are nutty about them for sure ..but long term ..and in terms of pure practicality and longevity ..I'd say you want to really take good care of one. and be very smart about it.I'm gathering that much of your driving or adventuing conditions are poking along on the level more or less, with maybe 100 Kph max ...and spending most of the time below that.Which would be really easy on most engines.here........ there are 8 mile long freeway grades and it's 90 F outside..cars are zooming by left and right at 80 mph sometimes ( only slight exgerration )and we want to cruise on highways at say .....75 mph.put all that together, using a car engine to push a large and heavy syncro van ...it's rough on things.I know of two tdi syhcros' one mechanical, one fully electronic..and this might not souund like a big deal to you guys .but they are limited to 45 mph on long grades due to EGT's getting to high.they have the power to go faster ...but EGT's will get too high, even with very efficenint intercooler setups.That probably sounds just fine to you guys ../45 mph on long grades...but here there can be many of those long grades where the speed limit is 70mph ..so you'r rather not be in the far right lane with the big trucks ..oh fuel milage, that' one big reason people drive diesels..the electronic tdi sycnro I work on sometimes ..guy gets about 25 mpg ( sorry, with effort I could convert that to your milage system ..but that's 'rather ordinary' for a big van...in waterboxer .....a wbxr syncro will do 20 mph with normal size tires and driving it nicely.a six cyliner Subaru Syncro ..will do 14 to 17 mpg.in that light, 25 mpg looks great !and I imagine you'd be satisfied with that fuel milage figure - 25 mpg.it bothers me that the timing belt is so hyper critical...I think those smaller late model turbo's wear out easily ( though our driving conditions might be much rougher on our turbo's than your driving conditions might be ....here it is often hot, fast, and long grades to climb - there's one guy who got one year out of tdi turbo ..though oil flow angles might have been wrong, maybe that was a cheap turbo etc...but he's not happy. He's on his 3rd turbo now, with fingers crossed. ) ..and the elctronics ..if you're all on top of that with VAG-COM and all that ...sure, they're like any modern electronically controlled engine, more or less.sure ....gotta have a tdi !oh ...I value longevity, durability, and reliability most of all.let's say......... ........ it's not automatically gurannteed at all that you'll get that in a tdi engine in a syncro ..perhaps half or up to 3/4 of the people do ...but not 95 % of them , I can say that for sure.and if it's something you always wanted ...well, then you gotta get that out of your system and go for it.and study on the tdi-conversion list.lol,Scott----- Original Message -----From: bencroft96Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2010 4:09 AMSubject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australi a]repowering, Coolant Pipes, Down Under,Razorback, T3twincabAlf,Ebay,There is heaps of Golf engines etc.You can even buy a brand new WBX long motor.1900 US
--- In Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com, alf ando <dansk53bus@. ..> wrote:
>
> HIÂ Scott. How hard is it to find a 1,9 TDIÂ at your end , must have ECU and
> wiring loom, 1,9 TDI has been on my wish list for along time.
>
> Regards
> Alf
>
>
>
>
> ____________ _________ _________ __
> From: Scott Daniel - Turbovans <ScottDaniel@ ...>
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Sun, 25 July, 2010 1:17:18 PM
> Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australi a]repowering, Coolant Pipes, Down
> Under,Razorback, T3twincab
>
> Â
> hi,
> re
> They sure do keep you busy these syncros
>
> man you can say that again ..
> talk about a 'labor intensive' vehicle..
> the engine part is the easy part even ...
> syncro's have things so packed there around the fuel tank, in the front
> suspension etc.
>
>
> do you guys have much rust down there ? Probalby not.
> not much rust in Oregon where I am ..
> but some syncro's from Canada, Alaska, and other northern climes are just
> desperately rusted from one end to the other.  Like almost 'not repairable.'
>
> Scott
> www.turbovans. com
> ----- Original Message -----
> >From: Gary Cookson
> >To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
> >Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 8:38 PM
> >Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australi a]repowering, Coolant Pipes, Down
> >Under,Razorback, T3twincab
> >
> >Â
> >Hi Scott thanks appreciate the info. I don't see any point putting in a
> >wasserboxer as the chances of finding a good one seem slim. I'm leaning towards
> >an AAZ diesel.
> >
> >
> >
> >It seems i can run my existing turbo which is fairly new and so keep my 1.6
> >exhaust manifold (which i reground flat at Christmas) and also use the Bosch
> >pump on my 1.6.
> >
> >
> >So if i get that rebuilt (at great expense) it will keep me going while i hunt
> >for an aaz and can then be reused on the aaz even.Â
> >
> >
> >I think i'd prefer to stick with diesel but i'm not ruling out a 4 pot petrol.
> >
> >
> >They sure do keep you busy these syncros!
> >Gary
> >
> >
> >
> >On 25/07/2010, at 10:35 AM, Scott Daniel - Turbovans wrote:
> >
> >Â
> >>
> >>
> >>re
> >>"Converting mine to a wasserboxer would be quite difficult though"
> >>
> >>don't know if you know this about me or not ..
> >>but 'what I do' is engine conversions to vanagons and syncro's ..full time..Â
> >>
> >>as long as you are not thinking about changing gearing in the differentials.
> ..
> >>I think a waterboxer engine will fall right in, more or less.
> >>
> >>syncro petrol and diesel tanks are different ..but I think the diesel tank will
> >>clear a waterboxer starter just fine ( going the other way it will not though )
> >>
> >>
> >>that would be my only question ...about fuel tank and starter clearance with a
> >>waterboxer engine and diesel syncro fuel tank.
> >>swapping the tank to run on gasoline ..
> >>shouldn't be a problem. ..
> >>just need the various bits and some patience and a good working space .
> >>
> >>and since you already have in inline four ..
> >>and might prefer petrol..
> >>that makes one think of various inline four petrol engines that might work
> >>nicely ..
> >>and VW ones are a pure-bolt in, pretty much.
> >>
> >>Given the uh...'challenges' that waterboxer engines have, namely joke 'head
> >>gaskets'...
> >>a cast iron block, aluminum OHC inline four petrol VW engine looks fairly
> >>attractive.
> >>
> >>i have an 87 jetta 1.8 16 valve DOHC inline four petrol engine I hope to find
> >>time to put in one of my vans one of these days... 123 hp at 5,000-something
> >>rpm.
> >>
> >>not a torque monster though, like you most likely would  prefer for a Syncro.
> >>
> >>what fun these fine machines are !
> >>Scott
> >>www.turbovans. com
> >>----- Original Message -----
> >>>From: Gary Cookson
> >>>To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
> >>>Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 3:15 PM
> >>>Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australi a]repowering, Coolant Pipes, Down
> >>>Under,Razorback, T3twincab
> >>>
> >>>Â
> >>>Hi Roger, thanks for the info and offer of trying out your beastie. Converting
> >>>mine to a wasserboxer would be quite difficult though, i've spent hours reading
> >>>about fitting an aaz which seems the most straightforward but still not that
> >>>easy. I'm still waiting to hear the verdict on the state of my current engine.
> >>>The diesel chap promised to ring on Friday so i expect i'll find out about
> >>>Wednesday.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Weirdly enough one of my clients here is the daughter of Mr Hunt of Hunt Heating
> >>>and she and her husband run a heating company here in Melbourne. I'm happy to
> >>>try and find out more about the pipes if that would help.Â
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Cheers
> >>>Gary
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>On 24/07/2010, at 11:13 PM, Roger Bell wrote:
> >>>
> >>>Â
> >>>>Dear Everyone,
> >>>>Lots of things to reply to here, some of which  complement each other.
> >>>>
> >>>>Les first -sorry have looked through all my T4 and miscellaneous stuff and don't
> >>>>seem to have kept the razorback brochure (1 page from memory). Will contact you
> >>>>if I ever come across it.
> >>>>
> >>>>Coolant Pipes.
> >>>>Bruce
> >>>>My brother rang me from Gove and I was able to ascertain and ring the local
> >>>>(Victorian distributor Hunt Heating 1300 001 800 (Still no reply from UK
> >>>>manufacturer) They(Mick in sales) told me they can supply from stock Multilayer
> >>>>composite (MLC) pipe in 5Â metre lengths of 32mm or 40mm o/d.($66 and $122
> >>>>respectively plus gst.)Â He could not immediately verify it but he thought the
> >>>>wall thickness was about 3mm. They have an aluminium core which allows them to
> >>>>bend to the curve needed but this is best done with a spring insert as when
> >>>>bending copper pipe.. My brother said the advantage of this MLC pipe  is that if
> >>>>you kink it on bending you can take it back to the original shape with a heat
> >>>>gun.
> >>>>
> >>>>Ralph supplied the following on the go Westy brass insert kit which confirms a
> >>>>one and half inch size which would need the 40mm pipe. The kit would probably be
> >>>>the best way of joining to the rubber connecting pipes but it would add to the
> >>>>cost (USD49 + freight.
> >>>>
> >>>>Coolant Pipe Repair Kit
> >>>>
> >>>>Click To Enlarge
> >>>>Part # 251-121-399KIT
> >>>>Works with: 1986 - 1991
> >>>>Weight: 3.00 lbs
> >>>>Our Price: $49.95
> >>>> Get $2.50 GoBucks
> >>>>upon purchase!
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>My brother said he would be happy to facilitate things for you Bruce including
> >>>>providing a sample once he gets home early Sept. but IÂ would imagine you want
> >>>>to get back on the road before that. I take it the Go Westy kit wouldn't solve
> >>>>the problem by itself?
> >>>>
> >>>>Repowering
> >>>>Gary, Bruce of coolant pipe fame installed an inline VW (1.8??) in his Petrol
> >>>>Syncro and could probably add something for your consideration. What about the
> >>>>twin cab power and transmission  below supplied by Andy?
> >>>>I've been driving around lately thinking the 2.1 wasserboxer engine in my car
> >>>>with my 70 profile x 16" tyres really isn't too bad in the way it performs
> >>>>around town and on the highway. Â Perhaps its the denser air of winter in
> >>>>Melbourne or perhaps they finally got them right by the end of '92. If you would
> >>>>like to borrow it for a couple of days to think about whether the
> >>>>relatively more simple alternative of a sound 2.1 petrol engine might fit the
> >>>>bill then you would be welcome as long as it doesn't come back with a clapped
> >>>>out diesel engine in it!.
> >>>>On why the price of  diesel doesn't fluctuate like petrol I was told that the
> >>>>major users like Linfox and Toll put their not inconsiderable requirements out
> >>>>to tender whereas the likes of you and me have insufficient buying power even in
> >>>>aggregate to warrant the competition reflected in petrol prices. As remarked
> >>>>before govt. excise also makes a difference according to useage eg on farm.
> >>>>
> >>>>Â
> >>>>Here ended the 1st lesson. I'm going away to write out 500 times I must be more
> >>>>succinct.
> >>>>
> >>>>Cheers
> >>>>Roger
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>--- On Fri, 23/7/10, Andy Sinclair <andy@...> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>From: Andy Sinclair <andy@...>
> >>>>>Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australi a] Coolant Pipes, Down Under, T3twincab
> >>>>>To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
> >>>>>Received: Friday, 23 July, 2010, 5:41 AM
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Â
> >>>>>Hi Roger and all,
> >>>>>The T3 twin cab belongs to a friend of mine. It has a Subaru SVX 3.3
> >>>>>litre engine running on LPG with an auto transmission. Its not a Syncro but he
> >>>>>wishes it was. I have driven this car a few times and its awesome, so much
> >>>>>power. He has also upgraded the rear brakes with the rear disc brake kit from
> >>>>>Queensland. Nice car!
> >>>>>Cheers, Andy.Â
> >>>>>Â
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>From: Roger Bell
> >>>>>Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 2:34 AM
> >>>>>To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
> >>>>>Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australi a] Coolant Pipes, Down Under, T3twincab
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Â
> >>>>>Dear Bruce,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Sorry haven't been back on the coolant pipe substitutes. My Hydonic Heating
> >>>>>brother is out of contact off in the "Nothing" part of the country on Ben's
> >>>>>map in his Hilux and I have lost the name of the local distributor. I sent a
> >>>>>request for this to the UK manufacturer and asked them for advice on our problem
> >>>>>with the prospect of regular sales but to date have had a stoney silence. If you
> >>>>>wanted additions to Ben's map obviously you would need to include Collingwood
> >>>>>supporters and those offering free home roofing installation. They were filming
> >>>>>"Underbelly" further down my street last week so I suppose you should
> >>>>>also include my suburb and I should double chain my syncro to the nearest
> >>>>>lampost.
> >>>>>Does anyone have the name of the Australian distributor from an earlier posting
> >>>>>of mine and/or the internal and external diameter of the coolant pipes. I'm not
> >>>>>keen to disturb mine to measure them internally.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Les I'm still raking through my hoard to see if I retained a brochure of the
> >>>>>razorback. Will post it to the group and snail mail it to you if I locate it.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>On another tack pulled up alongside a nicely preserved white T3 twincab ute at
> >>>>>traffic lights the other day noting a small enamel plate on the rear and side
> >>>>>door with "twin cam boxer" on it . I was in my Camry and the driver looked
> >>>>>across at me with that self satisfied "if you owned one you would understand"
> >>>>>look on his face. It had a decker plate cover over the rear but I don't think it
> >>>>>was a Syncro. Anyone in Victoria seen it and know what engine it runs?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Cheers
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Roger
> >>>>>--- On Thu, 15/7/10, Alison & Bruce Black <royalb@aapt. net.au> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>From: Alison & Bruce Black <royalb@aapt. net.au>
> >>>>>>Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australi a] Coolant Pipes, Down Under
> >>>>>>To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
> >>>>>>Received: Thursday, 15 July, 2010, 6:24 AM
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Â
> >>>>>>Hello Roger
> >>>>>>Good to have you back. Thanks for the info. I am
> >>>>>>still mobile just need to do something about it reasonably soon.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Pity about the stash of cash Ken was talking about, as that day one
> >>>>>>of my daughter's had just cost me a few thousand. Still that what a
> >>>>>>family is all about, no complaints. On second thoughts that money
> >>>>>>could have done wonders for the syncro!!!!!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Roger, been waiting for you to add a few extra bits to BenT's Down
> >>>>>>Under map.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Bruce
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>Â
> >>>>Â
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >
> >
> >
>
Yeh, I wonder how different the engines are? Could you say, use your manifolds, mounts and sump, i.e. just fit the long motor? Greg E--- On Tue, 27/7/10, Gary Cookson <gary@twentytwentyone.net> wrote: |
Hi Greg, I believe so, needs a spigot bearing adding to support the input shaft and a different clutch but the sump from the 1.6 and the exhaust manifold swap over. The inlet manifold is different and you have to reorganise the pipework but a relatively easy swap.
Hoping the 1.6 will be much improved with the rebuilt pump and keep me going for a while longer though, so many other jobs to sort as well....
Gary
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On 27/07/2010, at 10:08 AM, greg esposito wrote:
Yeh, I wonder how different the engines are? Could you say, use your manifolds, mounts and sump, i.e. just fit the long motor? Greg E
--- On Tue, 27/7/10, Gary Cookson <gary@twentytwentyone.net> wrote:
From: Gary Cookson <gary@twentytwentyone.net>
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australi a]repowering, Coolant Pipes, Down Under,Razorback, T3twincab
To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
Received: Tuesday, 27 July, 2010, 9:15 AM
I don't think so from what i've read just needs the fuel turned up a little. The 1.6 turbo also works so really only need an engine.CheersGary
On 26/07/2010, at 9:53 PM, greg esposito wrote:
Good to see you found a way forward Gary. Would you need to modify your pump to use it on an aaz? Greg E
--- On Mon, 26/7/10, Gary Cookson <gary@twentytwentyone.net> wrote:
From: Gary Cookson <gary@twentytwentyone.net>
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australi a]repowering, Coolant Pipes, Down Under,Razorback, T3twincab
To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
Received: Monday, 26 July, 2010, 9:42 PM
Well guys just for everyone who is following my engine thread. The leak down test showed the bores to be in good shape so i'm getting the pump rebuilt.It should be interesting to see how much better the 1.6 goes with a good pump and if i do go with an AAZ, maybe Harts, I can reuse my pump and turbo with the AAZ.cheersGary
On 26/07/2010, at 7:43 PM, Scott Daniel - Turbovans wrote:
hi Alf,for sure ...tdi syncro's and hill climbing ..I have read about tdi Syncro vans that will climb straight up steep stuff, at idle, foot not even on the 'go pedal' !you may know of our event here..Syncro De Mayo ( that name is take-off on Cinco De Mayo ... ...a holiday celibrting the 5th Of May ..Mexican revolution , something like that ) ..anyway, I went a few years ago ...syncro's left and right climbing up steep stuff...Even a few syncro's that are trailered to events and are only off road vehicles.but most driven there ...great event ..go if you ever get the chance. On the West Caost of the US it's held near Holister, CA ....and an off road park called Saddleback Mountain I think, something like that. Easy to look up on a google search.their awesome all right ..and absolutely ....a good TDI will make strong low end crunt like a petrol engine never can.no denying that !All depends on what you like and what you want your Syncro to be best at.My preference would be for roaming in desolate areas on really bad 'roads' ..not climbing up goat trails ...but whatever turns people on !Scott----- Original Message -----From: alf andoSent: Monday, July 26, 2010 1:57 AMSubject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australi a]repowering, Coolant Pipes, Down Under,Razorback, T3twincabThanks for that scott. I don't know where the A came from . When I was in germany for the syncro 25, I spoke to so many people including Jean Louise from the busman , and he said 1,9 TDI was the only way to go, and the performens we saw from these vehicle climbing hills was out standing.Alf
From: Scott Daniel - Turbovans <ScottDaniel@ turbovans. com>
To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, 26 July, 2010 8:28:34 AM
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australi a]repowering, Coolant Pipes, Down Under,Razorback, T3twincab
Hi Alf,TDI engines in North America are easy to find.( don't know what you mean by TDIA though ).they're expensive.one guy I know with one...might still have it, and all the stuff to go with it suppossidly ..I think it's around $ 4000 US.personally I think the greatest advantage to a tid engine is bragging rights.get on the tdi-conversion list. Read about the blow turbo's etc.not to ruin your fun,and people are driving full electronic TDI engines in syncro's ..and TDI's converted to pure mechanical injection pump and no electronics, and they're happy ...I just think they are expesnive to get, have expensvie problems much to easily,and are complex with electronics and intercooler. .even watercooled intercoolers with their own separate cooling system.but people are nutty about them for sure ..but long term ..and in terms of pure practicality and longevity ..I'd say you want to really take good care of one. and be very smart about it.I'm gathering that much of your driving or adventuing conditions are poking along on the level more or less, with maybe 100 Kph max ...and spending most of the time below that.Which would be really easy on most engines.here........ there are 8 mile long freeway grades and it's 90 F outside..cars are zooming by left and right at 80 mph sometimes ( only slight exgerration )and we want to cruise on highways at say .....75 mph.put all that together, using a car engine to push a large and heavy syncro van ...it's rough on things.I know of two tdi syhcros' one mechanical, one fully electronic..and this might not souund like a big deal to you guys .but they are limited to 45 mph on long grades due to EGT's getting to high.they have the power to go faster ...but EGT's will get too high, even with very efficenint intercooler setups.That probably sounds just fine to you guys ../45 mph on long grades...but here there can be many of those long grades where the speed limit is 70mph ..so you'r rather not be in the far right lane with the big trucks ..oh fuel milage, that' one big reason people drive diesels..the electronic tdi sycnro I work on sometimes ..guy gets about 25 mpg ( sorry, with effort I could convert that to your milage system ..but that's 'rather ordinary' for a big van...in waterboxer .....a wbxr syncro will do 20 mph with normal size tires and driving it nicely.a six cyliner Subaru Syncro ..will do 14 to 17 mpg.in that light, 25 mpg looks great !and I imagine you'd be satisfied with that fuel milage figure - 25 mpg.it bothers me that the timing belt is so hyper critical...I think those smaller late model turbo's wear out easily ( though our driving conditions might be much rougher on our turbo's than your driving conditions might be ....here it is often hot, fast, and long grades to climb - there's one guy who got one year out of tdi turbo ..though oil flow angles might have been wrong, maybe that was a cheap turbo etc...but he's not happy. He's on his 3rd turbo now, with fingers crossed. ) ..and the elctronics ..if you're all on top of that with VAG-COM and all that ...sure, they're like any modern electronically controlled engine, more or less.sure ....gotta have a tdi !oh ...I value longevity, durability, and reliability most of all.let's say......... ........ it's not automatically gurannteed at all that you'll get that in a tdi engine in a syncro ..perhaps half or up to 3/4 of the people do ...but not 95 % of them , I can say that for sure.and if it's something you always wanted ...well, then you gotta get that out of your system and go for it.and study on the tdi-conversion list.lol,Scott----- Original Message -----From: bencroft96Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2010 4:09 AMSubject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australi a]repowering, Coolant Pipes, Down Under,Razorback, T3twincabAlf,Ebay,There is heaps of Golf engines etc.You can even buy a brand new WBX long motor.1900 US
--- In Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com, alf ando <dansk53bus@. ..> wrote:
>
> HIÂ Scott. How hard is it to find a 1,9 TDIÂ at your end , must have ECU and
> wiring loom, 1,9 TDI has been on my wish list for along time.
>
> Regards
> Alf
>
>
>
>
> ____________ _________ _________ __
> From: Scott Daniel - Turbovans <ScottDaniel@ ...>
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Sun, 25 July, 2010 1:17:18 PM
> Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australi a]repowering, Coolant Pipes, Down
> Under,Razorback, T3twincab
>
> Â
> hi,
> re
> They sure do keep you busy these syncros
>
> man you can say that again ..
> talk about a 'labor intensive' vehicle..
> the engine part is the easy part even ...
> syncro's have things so packed there around the fuel tank, in the front
> suspension etc.
>
>
> do you guys have much rust down there ? Probalby not.
> not much rust in Oregon where I am ..
> but some syncro's from Canada, Alaska, and other northern climes are just
> desperately rusted from one end to the other.  Like almost 'not repairable.'
>
> Scott
> www.turbovans. com
> ----- Original Message -----
> >From: Gary Cookson
> >To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
> >Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 8:38 PM
> >Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australi a]repowering, Coolant Pipes, Down
> >Under,Razorback, T3twincab
> >
> >Â
> >Hi Scott thanks appreciate the info. I don't see any point putting in a
> >wasserboxer as the chances of finding a good one seem slim. I'm leaning towards
> >an AAZ diesel.
> >
> >
> >
> >It seems i can run my existing turbo which is fairly new and so keep my 1.6
> >exhaust manifold (which i reground flat at Christmas) and also use the Bosch
> >pump on my 1.6.
> >
> >
> >So if i get that rebuilt (at great expense) it will keep me going while i hunt
> >for an aaz and can then be reused on the aaz even.Â
> >
> >
> >I think i'd prefer to stick with diesel but i'm not ruling out a 4 pot petrol.
> >
> >
> >They sure do keep you busy these syncros!
> >Gary
> >
> >
> >
> >On 25/07/2010, at 10:35 AM, Scott Daniel - Turbovans wrote:
> >
> >Â
> >>
> >>
> >>re
> >>"Converting mine to a wasserboxer would be quite difficult though"
> >>
> >>don't know if you know this about me or not ..
> >>but 'what I do' is engine conversions to vanagons and syncro's ..full time..Â
> >>
> >>as long as you are not thinking about changing gearing in the differentials.
> ..
> >>I think a waterboxer engine will fall right in, more or less.
> >>
> >>syncro petrol and diesel tanks are different ..but I think the diesel tank will
> >>clear a waterboxer starter just fine ( going the other way it will not though )
> >>
> >>
> >>that would be my only question ...about fuel tank and starter clearance with a
> >>waterboxer engine and diesel syncro fuel tank.
> >>swapping the tank to run on gasoline ..
> >>shouldn't be a problem. ..
> >>just need the various bits and some patience and a good working space .
> >>
> >>and since you already have in inline four ..
> >>and might prefer petrol..
> >>that makes one think of various inline four petrol engines that might work
> >>nicely ..
> >>and VW ones are a pure-bolt in, pretty much.
> >>
> >>Given the uh...'challenges' that waterboxer engines have, namely joke 'head
> >>gaskets'...
> >>a cast iron block, aluminum OHC inline four petrol VW engine looks fairly
> >>attractive.
> >>
> >>i have an 87 jetta 1.8 16 valve DOHC inline four petrol engine I hope to find
> >>time to put in one of my vans one of these days... 123 hp at 5,000-something
> >>rpm.
> >>
> >>not a torque monster though, like you most likely would  prefer for a Syncro.
> >>
> >>what fun these fine machines are !
> >>Scott
> >>www.turbovans. com
> >>----- Original Message -----
> >>>From: Gary Cookson
> >>>To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
> >>>Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 3:15 PM
> >>>Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australi a]repowering, Coolant Pipes, Down
> >>>Under,Razorback, T3twincab
> >>>
> >>>Â
> >>>Hi Roger, thanks for the info and offer of trying out your beastie. Converting
> >>>mine to a wasserboxer would be quite difficult though, i've spent hours reading
> >>>about fitting an aaz which seems the most straightforward but still not that
> >>>easy. I'm still waiting to hear the verdict on the state of my current engine.
> >>>The diesel chap promised to ring on Friday so i expect i'll find out about
> >>>Wednesday.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Weirdly enough one of my clients here is the daughter of Mr Hunt of Hunt Heating
> >>>and she and her husband run a heating company here in Melbourne. I'm happy to
> >>>try and find out more about the pipes if that would help.Â
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Cheers
> >>>Gary
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>On 24/07/2010, at 11:13 PM, Roger Bell wrote:
> >>>
> >>>Â
> >>>>Dear Everyone,
> >>>>Lots of things to reply to here, some of which  complement each other.
> >>>>
> >>>>Les first -sorry have looked through all my T4 and miscellaneous stuff and don't
> >>>>seem to have kept the razorback brochure (1 page from memory). Will contact you
> >>>>if I ever come across it.
> >>>>
> >>>>Coolant Pipes.
> >>>>Bruce
> >>>>My brother rang me from Gove and I was able to ascertain and ring the local
> >>>>(Victorian distributor Hunt Heating 1300 001 800 (Still no reply from UK
> >>>>manufacturer) They(Mick in sales) told me they can supply from stock Multilayer
> >>>>composite (MLC) pipe in 5Â metre lengths of 32mm or 40mm o/d.($66 and $122
> >>>>respectively plus gst.)Â He could not immediately verify it but he thought the
> >>>>wall thickness was about 3mm. They have an aluminium core which allows them to
> >>>>bend to the curve needed but this is best done with a spring insert as when
> >>>>bending copper pipe.. My brother said the advantage of this MLC pipe  is that if
> >>>>you kink it on bending you can take it back to the original shape with a heat
> >>>>gun.
> >>>>
> >>>>Ralph supplied the following on the go Westy brass insert kit which confirms a
> >>>>one and half inch size which would need the 40mm pipe. The kit would probably be
> >>>>the best way of joining to the rubber connecting pipes but it would add to the
> >>>>cost (USD49 + freight.
> >>>>
> >>>>Coolant Pipe Repair Kit
> >>>>
> >>>>Click To Enlarge
> >>>>Part # 251-121-399KIT
> >>>>Works with: 1986 - 1991
> >>>>Weight: 3.00 lbs
> >>>>Our Price: $49.95
> >>>> Get $2.50 GoBucks
> >>>>upon purchase!
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>My brother said he would be happy to facilitate things for you Bruce including
> >>>>providing a sample once he gets home early Sept. but IÂ would imagine you want
> >>>>to get back on the road before that. I take it the Go Westy kit wouldn't solve
> >>>>the problem by itself?
> >>>>
> >>>>Repowering
> >>>>Gary, Bruce of coolant pipe fame installed an inline VW (1.8??) in his Petrol
> >>>>Syncro and could probably add something for your consideration. What about the
> >>>>twin cab power and transmission  below supplied by Andy?
> >>>>I've been driving around lately thinking the 2.1 wasserboxer engine in my car
> >>>>with my 70 profile x 16" tyres really isn't too bad in the way it performs
> >>>>around town and on the highway. Â Perhaps its the denser air of winter in
> >>>>Melbourne or perhaps they finally got them right by the end of '92. If you would
> >>>>like to borrow it for a couple of days to think about whether the
> >>>>relatively more simple alternative of a sound 2.1 petrol engine might fit the
> >>>>bill then you would be welcome as long as it doesn't come back with a clapped
> >>>>out diesel engine in it!.
> >>>>On why the price of  diesel doesn't fluctuate like petrol I was told that the
> >>>>major users like Linfox and Toll put their not inconsiderable requirements out
> >>>>to tender whereas the likes of you and me have insufficient buying power even in
> >>>>aggregate to warrant the competition reflected in petrol prices. As remarked
> >>>>before govt. excise also makes a difference according to useage eg on farm.
> >>>>
> >>>>Â
> >>>>Here ended the 1st lesson. I'm going away to write out 500 times I must be more
> >>>>succinct.
> >>>>
> >>>>Cheers
> >>>>Roger
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>--- On Fri, 23/7/10, Andy Sinclair <andy@...> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>From: Andy Sinclair <andy@...>
> >>>>>Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australi a] Coolant Pipes, Down Under, T3twincab
> >>>>>To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
> >>>>>Received: Friday, 23 July, 2010, 5:41 AM
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Â
> >>>>>Hi Roger and all,
> >>>>>The T3 twin cab belongs to a friend of mine. It has a Subaru SVX 3.3
> >>>>>litre engine running on LPG with an auto transmission. Its not a Syncro but he
> >>>>>wishes it was. I have driven this car a few times and its awesome, so much
> >>>>>power. He has also upgraded the rear brakes with the rear disc brake kit from
> >>>>>Queensland. Nice car!
> >>>>>Cheers, Andy.Â
> >>>>>Â
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>From: Roger Bell
> >>>>>Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 2:34 AM
> >>>>>To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
> >>>>>Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australi a] Coolant Pipes, Down Under, T3twincab
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Â
> >>>>>Dear Bruce,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Sorry haven't been back on the coolant pipe substitutes. My Hydonic Heating
> >>>>>brother is out of contact off in the "Nothing" part of the country on Ben's
> >>>>>map in his Hilux and I have lost the name of the local distributor. I sent a
> >>>>>request for this to the UK manufacturer and asked them for advice on our problem
> >>>>>with the prospect of regular sales but to date have had a stoney silence. If you
> >>>>>wanted additions to Ben's map obviously you would need to include Collingwood
> >>>>>supporters and those offering free home roofing installation. They were filming
> >>>>>"Underbelly" further down my street last week so I suppose you should
> >>>>>also include my suburb and I should double chain my syncro to the nearest
> >>>>>lampost.
> >>>>>Does anyone have the name of the Australian distributor from an earlier posting
> >>>>>of mine and/or the internal and external diameter of the coolant pipes. I'm not
> >>>>>keen to disturb mine to measure them internally.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Les I'm still raking through my hoard to see if I retained a brochure of the
> >>>>>razorback. Will post it to the group and snail mail it to you if I locate it.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>On another tack pulled up alongside a nicely preserved white T3 twincab ute at
> >>>>>traffic lights the other day noting a small enamel plate on the rear and side
> >>>>>door with "twin cam boxer" on it . I was in my Camry and the driver looked
> >>>>>across at me with that self satisfied "if you owned one you would understand"
> >>>>>look on his face. It had a decker plate cover over the rear but I don't think it
> >>>>>was a Syncro. Anyone in Victoria seen it and know what engine it runs?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Cheers
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Roger
> >>>>>--- On Thu, 15/7/10, Alison & Bruce Black <royalb@aapt. net.au> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>From: Alison & Bruce Black <royalb@aapt. net.au>
> >>>>>>Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australi a] Coolant Pipes, Down Under
> >>>>>>To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
> >>>>>>Received: Thursday, 15 July, 2010, 6:24 AM
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Â
> >>>>>>Hello Roger
> >>>>>>Good to have you back. Thanks for the info. I am
> >>>>>>still mobile just need to do something about it reasonably soon.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Pity about the stash of cash Ken was talking about, as that day one
> >>>>>>of my daughter's had just cost me a few thousand. Still that what a
> >>>>>>family is all about, no complaints. On second thoughts that money
> >>>>>>could have done wonders for the syncro!!!!!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Roger, been waiting for you to add a few extra bits to BenT's Down
> >>>>>>Under map.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Bruce
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>Â
> >>>>Â
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >
> >
> >
>
Roger,
Thanks for your efforts and info gleaned locally from Gates. Seems like the 28320 is a pretty impressive product, perhaps worth pursuing further by someone at some stage, that someone with a real need and so motivated. Anyone?
Found an Australian website pdf file of hoses, see attached HoseCo file. In it concerning Gates Wire-Inserted Green Stripe Coolant Hose 28320, interesting it has a working pressure of 100 psi, temperature to +125 degrees, minimum bend radius 2.5", long spans require support at only 3 foot intervals (can support closer than that) and Vacuum in HG is 25. Also lists 5 foot lengths, part no. 24920. ?? Overseas only for that?
Also see the attached pic of this hose 24920/28320.
For our purposes of end joining to the existing 38mm ID rubber hoses at both ends, we still need to know the actual OD of this 1.25" ID Gates 28320 hose (do us all a favour please Mr. Gates Rep and simply run a vernier tool over it and advise ok!) so then we can know whether or not the GoWesty pipe repair joiners might or might not work. Meaning the end join issue remains the sticking point. Maybe the solution will be a stepped 1.25" (32mm) to 1.5" (38mm) "longish" joiner to accommodate double clamping. Or maybe cut off the 38mm ID overlap section of the rubber hose at each end and so enable the use of a straight 1.25" OD metal tube joiner.
Roger, actually all this leaves me wondering how many syncro owners in Australia have actually gone futher than just patching original plastic pipes? Anyone? Please raise your hand and tell us what you did re a completed project alternate pipes solution. TIA. Cheers.
Ken
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
From: bellrmit@yahoo.com.au
Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 22:08:51 -0700
Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Coolant Pipes and vanilla slices
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Thanks for your efforts and info gleaned locally from Gates. Seems like the 28320 is a pretty impressive product, perhaps worth pursuing further by someone at some stage, that someone with a real need and so motivated. Anyone?
Found an Australian website pdf file of hoses, see attached HoseCo file. In it concerning Gates Wire-Inserted Green Stripe Coolant Hose 28320, interesting it has a working pressure of 100 psi, temperature to +125 degrees, minimum bend radius 2.5", long spans require support at only 3 foot intervals (can support closer than that) and Vacuum in HG is 25. Also lists 5 foot lengths, part no. 24920. ?? Overseas only for that?
Also see the attached pic of this hose 24920/28320.
For our purposes of end joining to the existing 38mm ID rubber hoses at both ends, we still need to know the actual OD of this 1.25" ID Gates 28320 hose (do us all a favour please Mr. Gates Rep and simply run a vernier tool over it and advise ok!) so then we can know whether or not the GoWesty pipe repair joiners might or might not work. Meaning the end join issue remains the sticking point. Maybe the solution will be a stepped 1.25" (32mm) to 1.5" (38mm) "longish" joiner to accommodate double clamping. Or maybe cut off the 38mm ID overlap section of the rubber hose at each end and so enable the use of a straight 1.25" OD metal tube joiner.
Roger, actually all this leaves me wondering how many syncro owners in Australia have actually gone futher than just patching original plastic pipes? Anyone? Please raise your hand and tell us what you did re a completed project alternate pipes solution. TIA. Cheers.
Ken
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
From: bellrmit@yahoo.com.au
Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 22:08:51 -0700
Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Coolant Pipes and vanilla slices
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Roger,
Thanks for your efforts and info gleaned locally from Gates. Seems like the 28320 is a pretty impressive product, perhaps worth pursuing further by someone at some stage, that someone with a real need and so motivated. Anyone?
Found an Australian website pdf file of hoses, see attached HoseCo file. In it concerning Gates Wire-Inserted Green Stripe Coolant Hose 28320, interesting it has a working pressure of 100 psi, temperature to +125 degrees, minimum bend radius 2.5", long spans require support at only 3 foot intervals (can support closer than that) and Vacuum in HG is 25. Also lists 5 foot lengths, part no. 24920. ?? Overseas only for that?
Also see the attached pic of this hose 24920/28320.
For our purposes of end joining to the existing 38mm ID rubber hoses at both ends, we still need to know the actual OD of this 1.25" ID Gates 28320 hose (do us all a favour please Mr. Gates Rep and simply run a vernier tool over it and advise ok!) so then we can know whether or not the GoWesty pipe repair joiners might or might not work. Meaning the end join issue remains the sticking point. Maybe the solution will be a stepped 1.25" (32mm) to 1.5" (38mm) "longish" joiner to accommodate double clamping. Or maybe cut off the 38mm ID overlap section of the rubber hose at each end and so enable the use of a straight 1.25" OD metal tube joiner.
Roger, actually all this leaves me wondering how many syncro owners in Australia have actually gone futher than just patching original plastic pipes? Anyone? Please raise your hand and tell us what you did re a completed project alternate pipes solution. TIA. Cheers.
Ken
To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
From: bellrmit@yahoo. com.au
Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 22:08:51 -0700
Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australi a] Coolant Pipes and vanilla slices
Thanks for your efforts and info gleaned locally from Gates. Seems like the 28320 is a pretty impressive product, perhaps worth pursuing further by someone at some stage, that someone with a real need and so motivated. Anyone?
Found an Australian website pdf file of hoses, see attached HoseCo file. In it concerning Gates Wire-Inserted Green Stripe Coolant Hose 28320, interesting it has a working pressure of 100 psi, temperature to +125 degrees, minimum bend radius 2.5", long spans require support at only 3 foot intervals (can support closer than that) and Vacuum in HG is 25. Also lists 5 foot lengths, part no. 24920. ?? Overseas only for that?
Also see the attached pic of this hose 24920/28320.
For our purposes of end joining to the existing 38mm ID rubber hoses at both ends, we still need to know the actual OD of this 1.25" ID Gates 28320 hose (do us all a favour please Mr. Gates Rep and simply run a vernier tool over it and advise ok!) so then we can know whether or not the GoWesty pipe repair joiners might or might not work. Meaning the end join issue remains the sticking point. Maybe the solution will be a stepped 1.25" (32mm) to 1.5" (38mm) "longish" joiner to accommodate double clamping. Or maybe cut off the 38mm ID overlap section of the rubber hose at each end and so enable the use of a straight 1.25" OD metal tube joiner.
Roger, actually all this leaves me wondering how many syncro owners in Australia have actually gone futher than just patching original plastic pipes? Anyone? Please raise your hand and tell us what you did re a completed project alternate pipes solution. TIA. Cheers.
Ken
To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
From: bellrmit@yahoo. com.au
Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 22:08:51 -0700
Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australi a] Coolant Pipes and vanilla slices
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Kenny,ever thought of some bent-up steel pipes?
I know a bloke who just did one on a T3.
I think it works out a little dearer.He made one in two-piece,joined in the centre with hose and clamps.Looked schmick.The way I will go,some day.
I know a bloke who just did one on a T3.
I think it works out a little dearer.He made one in two-piece,joined in the centre with hose and clamps.Looked schmick.The way I will go,some day.
--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, Ken Garratt <unclekenz@...> wrote:
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> Roger,
> Thanks for your efforts and info gleaned locally from Gates. Seems like the 28320 is a pretty impressive product, perhaps worth pursuing further by someone at some stage, that someone with a real need and so motivated. Anyone?
>
> Found an Australian website pdf file of hoses, see attached HoseCo file. In it concerning Gates Wire-Inserted Green Stripe Coolant Hose 28320, interesting it has a working pressure of 100 psi, temperature to +125 degrees, minimum bend radius 2.5", long spans require support at only 3 foot intervals (can support closer than that) and Vacuum in HG is 25. Also lists 5 foot lengths, part no. 24920. ?? Overseas only for that?
>
> Also see the attached pic of this hose 24920/28320.
>
> For our purposes of end joining to the existing 38mm ID rubber hoses at both ends, we still need to know the actual OD of this 1.25" ID Gates 28320 hose (do us all a favour please Mr. Gates Rep and simply run a vernier tool over it and advise ok!) so then we can know whether or not the GoWesty pipe repair joiners might or might not work. Meaning the end join issue remains the sticking point. Maybe the solution will be a stepped 1.25" (32mm) to 1.5" (38mm) "longish" joiner to accommodate double clamping. Or maybe cut off the 38mm ID overlap section of the rubber hose at each end and so enable the use of a straight 1.25" OD metal tube joiner.
>
> Roger, actually all this leaves me wondering how many syncro owners in Australia have actually gone futher than just patching original plastic pipes? Anyone? Please raise your hand and tell us what you did re a completed project alternate pipes solution. TIA. Cheers.
>
> Ken
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> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> From: bellrmit@...
> Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 22:08:51 -0700
> Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Coolant Pipes and vanilla slices
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> Dear Ken,Theo,
> Just put phone down from Gates who confirmed Theo's source of Repco being one of their major retailers and advised we would need to contact them as they do not quote prices to the public.(So thanks Theo)
> They also confirmed that the wire inserted coolant hose was the only one of larger diameter that came in 10' lengths.(Nothing longer) Its part number is 28320 if you want to check at your local Repco retailer.
> The NON wire inserted greenline coolant hose part number is 24220 but comes in a max of 3' (0.91metre) lengths. They do not offer any joiners only reducers which is the opposite of what we want. They suggested joining with exhaust pipe and clamps. On sizes they do not catalogue the o/d but thought 32mm i/d would equate to their 1.25".
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> Suggest before proceeding you watch the 2 Ronnies sketch "Any 'ose?"
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> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cz2-ukrd2VQ
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> Roger
> --- On Mon, 26/7/10, Theo Weiss <teows@...> wrote:
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> From: Theo Weiss <teows@...>
> Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Coolant Pipes and vanilla slices
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> Received: Monday, 26 July, 2010, 11:59 AM
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> Ken,
> I checked with the local Repco shop ( Gates suppliers).
> The Wire-Inserted Green Stripe Coolant Hose 1.5"I.D. $255.00 !! per 10 foot
> Cheers
> Theo
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Benny,
Not here ... because I'd just kink the rust attracters in the vice ... haha
Whereas the Gates hose I could just potter along in the garage and muddle through on my own. Much better.
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
From: bencroft96@yahoo.com
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 11:08:11 +0000
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Coolant Pipes and vanilla slices
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Not here ... because I'd just kink the rust attracters in the vice ... haha
Whereas the Gates hose I could just potter along in the garage and muddle through on my own. Much better.
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
From: bencroft96@yahoo.com
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 11:08:11 +0000
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Coolant Pipes and vanilla slices
Kenny,ever thought of some bent-up steel pipes?
I know a bloke who just did one on a T3.
I think it works out a little dearer.He made one in two-piece,joined in the centre with hose and clamps.Looked schmick.The way I will go,some day.
I know a bloke who just did one on a T3.
I think it works out a little dearer.He made one in two-piece,joined in the centre with hose and clamps.Looked schmick.The way I will go,some day.
--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, Ken Garratt <unclekenz@...> wrote:
>
>
> Roger,
> Thanks for your efforts and info gleaned locally from Gates. Seems like the 28320 is a pretty impressive product, perhaps worth pursuing further by someone at some stage, that someone with a real need and so motivated. Anyone?
>
> Found an Australian website pdf file of hoses, see attached HoseCo file. In it concerning Gates Wire-Inserted Green Stripe Coolant Hose 28320, interesting it has a working pressure of 100 psi, temperature to +125 degrees, minimum bend radius 2.5", long spans require support at only 3 foot intervals (can support closer than that) and Vacuum in HG is 25. Also lists 5 foot lengths, part no. 24920. ?? Overseas only for that?
>
> Also see the attached pic of this hose 24920/28320.
>
> For our purposes of end joining to the existing 38mm ID rubber hoses at both ends, we still need to know the actual OD of this 1.25" ID Gates 28320 hose (do us all a favour please Mr. Gates Rep and simply run a vernier tool over it and advise ok!) so then we can know whether or not the GoWesty pipe repair joiners might or might not work. Meaning the end join issue remains the sticking point. Maybe the solution will be a stepped 1.25" (32mm) to 1.5" (38mm) "longish" joiner to accommodate double clamping. Or maybe cut off the 38mm ID overlap section of the rubber hose at each end and so enable the use of a straight 1.25" OD metal tube joiner.
>
> Roger, actually all this leaves me wondering how many syncro owners in Australia have actually gone futher than just patching original plastic pipes? Anyone? Please raise your hand and tell us what you did re a completed project alternate pipes solution. TIA. Cheers.
>
> Ken
>
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> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> From: bellrmit@...
> Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 22:08:51 -0700
> Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Coolant Pipes and vanilla slices
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>
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> Dear Ken,Theo,
> Just put phone down from Gates who confirmed Theo's source of Repco being one of their major retailers and advised we would need to contact them as they do not quote prices to the public.(So thanks Theo)
> They also confirmed that the wire inserted coolant hose was the only one of larger diameter that came in 10' lengths.(Nothing longer) Its part number is 28320 if you want to check at your local Repco retailer.
> The NON wire inserted greenline coolant hose part number is 24220 but comes in a max of 3' (0.91metre) lengths. They do not offer any joiners only reducers which is the opposite of what we want. They suggested joining with exhaust pipe and clamps. On sizes they do not catalogue the o/d but thought 32mm i/d would equate to their 1.25".
>
> Suggest before proceeding you watch the 2 Ronnies sketch "Any 'ose?"
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cz2-ukrd2VQ
>
> Roger
> --- On Mon, 26/7/10, Theo Weiss <teows@...> wrote:
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> From: Theo Weiss <teows@...>
> Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Coolant Pipes and vanilla slices
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> Received: Monday, 26 July, 2010, 11:59 AM
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> Ken,
> I checked with the local Repco shop ( Gates suppliers).
> The Wire-Inserted Green Stripe Coolant Hose 1.5"I.D. $255.00 !! per 10 foot
> Cheers
> Theo
>
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> If It Exists, You'll Find it on SEEK. Australia's #1 job site
> http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157639755/direct/01/
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