Many thanks, Sam
Many thanks, Sam
There is quite a bit in the files sections including a few posts and a sheet showing individual hose details
See here
"https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Syncro_T3_Australia/files/Syncro%20Coolant%20Hoses/"
A few vendors also do hose kits the have some details:
"http://www.van-cafe.com/home/van/page_2464_1141/syncro_silicone_coolant_hose_kit_1986-1991.html"
"http://www.van-cafe.com/home/van/page_1775_1141/heater-hose-kit.html"
(look around, there more info in there)
As an aside, the heater hoses to the front are the same for all, if a van has the rear heater it just breaks into the two hoses running to the front.
Hope this helps a little!
Richard
A question and note. First question can someone confirm for me replacing the long coolant pipes with the two-piece stainless steel version, does the van need to be on a hoist to do this job? Is it possible just up on jackstands, although frustrating? Tried the other day but the pipe got jammed trying to pull it out, I was running out of daylight so just put it back in place.
Then to note it does appear those two pipes Roger disappear past a rubber grommet to get to the heater so I'm not game to have at them at this point. Might do the long 5/8 pipes but yes will need to track down some good pipe at the right price, as I might get about 8m of it to have some spare. Silly supercheap auto said they had it in stock on their computer and wasn't there when I made it to the store.
Thanks all, Sam
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On 06/06/2016, at 9:42, "me@samarnold.org [Syncro_T3_Australia]" <Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Hi All Again,
A question and note. First question can someone confirm for me replacing the long coolant pipes with the two-piece stainless steel version, does the van need to be on a hoist to do this job? Is it possible just up on jackstands, although frustrating? Tried the other day but the pipe got jammed trying to pull it out, I was running out of daylight so just put it back in place.
Then to note it does appear those two pipes Roger disappear past a rubber grommet to get to the heater so I'm not game to have at them at this point. Might do the long 5/8 pipes but yes will need to track down some good pipe at the right price, as I might get about 8m of it to have some spare. Silly supercheap auto said they had it in stock on their computer and wasn't there when I made it to the store.
Thanks all, Sam
Pulling and pushing.
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On Monday, June 6, 2016, 9:12 AM, me@samarnold.org [Syncro_T3_Australia] <Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Hi All Again,
A question and note. First question can someone confirm for me replacing the long coolant pipes with the two-piece stainless steel version, does the van need to be on a hoist to do this job? Is it possible just up on jackstands, although frustrating? Tried the other day but the pipe got jammed trying to pull it out, I was running out of daylight so just put it back in place.
Then to note it does appear those two pipes Roger disappear past a rubber grommet to get to the heater so I'm not game to have at them at this point. Might do the long 5/8 pipes but yes will need to track down some good pipe at the right price, as I might get about 8m of it to have some spare. Silly supercheap auto said they had it in stock on their computer and wasn't there when I made it to the store.
Thanks all, Sam
---In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, <aaronjlewis71@...> wrote :
Pulling and pushing.
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On Monday, June 6, 2016, 9:12 AM, me@... [Syncro_T3_Australia] <Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Hi All Again,
A question and note. First question can someone confirm for me replacing the long coolant pipes with the two-piece stainless steel version, does the van need to be on a hoist to do this job? Is it possible just up on jackstands, although frustrating? Tried the other day but the pipe got jammed trying to pull it out, I was running out of daylight so just put it back in place.
Then to note it does appear those two pipes Roger disappear past a rubber grommet to get to the heater so I'm not game to have at them at this point. Might do the long 5/8 pipes but yes will need to track down some good pipe at the right price, as I might get about 8m of it to have some spare. Silly supercheap auto said they had it in stock on their computer and wasn't there when I made it to the store.
Thanks all, Sam
From: "me@samarnold.org [Syncro_T3_Australia]" <Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com>
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, 7 June 2016, 11:59
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Coolant pipe entertainment Re: replacing heater hose
---In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, <aaronjlewis71@...> wrote :
Pulling and pushing.
Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
On Monday, June 6, 2016, 9:12 AM, me@... [Syncro_T3_Australia] <Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com> wrote:Hi All Again,
A question and note. First question can someone confirm for me replacing the long coolant pipes with the two-piece stainless steel version, does the van need to be on a hoist to do this job? Is it possible just up on jackstands, although frustrating? Tried the other day but the pipe got jammed trying to pull it out, I was running out of daylight so just put it back in place.
Then to note it does appear those two pipes Roger disappear past a rubber grommet to get to the heater so I'm not game to have at them at this point. Might do the long 5/8 pipes but yes will need to track down some good pipe at the right price, as I might get about 8m of it to have some spare. Silly supercheap auto said they had it in stock on their computer and wasn't there when I made it to the store.
Thanks all, Sam
For the record I had the gowesty temporary fix kit in place. The temporary fix worked for about 8 years until I finally had one let go on the highway. Good thing I had the heater on my bare feet and wondered why all of a sudden the heater went cold...
---In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, <jackthebearau@...> wrote :
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To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, 7 June 2016, 11:59
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Coolant pipe entertainment Re: replacing heater hose
---In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, <aaronjlewis71@...> wrote :
Pulling and pushing.
Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
On Monday, June 6, 2016, 9:12 AM, me@... [Syncro_T3_Australia] <Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com> wrote:Hi All Again,
A question and note. First question can someone confirm for me replacing the long coolant pipes with the two-piece stainless steel version, does the van need to be on a hoist to do this job? Is it possible just up on jackstands, although frustrating? Tried the other day but the pipe got jammed trying to pull it out, I was running out of daylight so just put it back in place.
Then to note it does appear those two pipes Roger disappear past a rubber grommet to get to the heater so I'm not game to have at them at this point. Might do the long 5/8 pipes but yes will need to track down some good pipe at the right price, as I might get about 8m of it to have some spare. Silly supercheap auto said they had it in stock on their computer and wasn't there when I made it to the store.
Thanks all, Sam
From: "me@samarnold.org [Syncro_T3_Australia]" <Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com>
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, 7 June 2016, 13:20
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Coolant pipe entertainment Re: replacing heater hose
For the record I had the gowesty temporary fix kit in place. The temporary fix worked for about 8 years until I finally had one let go on the highway. Good thing I had the heater on my bare feet and wondered why all of a sudden the heater went cold...
---In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, <jackthebearau@...> wrote :
From: "me@... [Syncro_T3_Australia]" <Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com>
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, 7 June 2016, 11:59
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Coolant pipe entertainment Re: replacing heater hose
---In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, <aaronjlewis71@...> wrote :
Pulling and pushing.
Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
On Monday, June 6, 2016, 9:12 AM, me@... [Syncro_T3_Australia] <Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com> wrote:Hi All Again,
A question and note. First question can someone confirm for me replacing the long coolant pipes with the two-piece stainless steel version, does the van need to be on a hoist to do this job? Is it possible just up on jackstands, although frustrating? Tried the other day but the pipe got jammed trying to pull it out, I was running out of daylight so just put it back in place.
Then to note it does appear those two pipes Roger disappear past a rubber grommet to get to the heater so I'm not game to have at them at this point. Might do the long 5/8 pipes but yes will need to track down some good pipe at the right price, as I might get about 8m of it to have some spare. Silly supercheap auto said they had it in stock on their computer and wasn't there when I made it to the store.
Thanks all, Sam
Just a few other notes in case anyone interested. Looks like gowesty currently has the stainless pipes on special, Stainless Steel Coolant Pipe Set - 4WD | GoWesty
$310 US
Secondly, of interest to get a 'heater hose' kit from van-cafe, however has stuff for a rear heater that many of us wouldn't need, they have the following note on their webpage...
Van Cafe: Vanagon Parts - Heater Hose Kit | Hoses
NOTE - Just to be clear, this kit does not include the hoses that go into the front dash and require removal of the dash. Those hoses are preformed hoses with required bends and as they are protected from the elements we have never seen these fail. This kit includes enough hose to go up to the unions where those preformed hoses begin
So are they really different between LHD and RHD? (or anyone used the pipes from gowesty or van café?)
Looks like with shipping and exchange the price is not that different from JK.
thanks for all the info!
All Syncro's have one type of coolant pipe only, suitable for the DG/MV/DJ/SP/SR/SS and JX (Diesel) engines with part numbers
251 121 397L for the feed pipe
and
251 121 399L for the return pipe
The 2WD versions for the above carry the same number but with the letter 'M' rather than 'L'.
The source of truth for this is ETKA (you can google it)
Cheers
Hans
On 07/06/2016 17:46, geraldandrobyn@yahoo.com [Syncro_T3_Australia] wrote:
Hi Richard and others, regarding the s.steel 4WD pipes. I got mine a 4 months ago from The Bus Depot in the USA. I didn't think about LHD vs RHD, but my mechanic put them in ok.
At the time Just Kampers didn't have them, Bus Depot had them at the door in 5 days. I remember at the time the cost was similar.
Hi Sam,
Great to catch up with you at the Sydney Nats. Worked out a weekend tagalong/campout yet?
Sure hope you haven't jinxed my "GoWesty temporary fix kit" repaired coolant pipes!! HA!
Reckon I fitted the same repair kit around the same or longer time-span as yours and mine have caused me no grief at all since ... I do check for leaks on all four joins every so often but nah ... all have remained dry as. Gotta say in my opinion those original coolant pipes are extremely durable ... certainly not "plastic" ... they are a nylon type material. Fit for purpose to be sure ... shame about the ends, that's all.
So naturally I'm curious to learn, did you eyeball the join that finally leaked after 8 long years!? ... what did you find was the issue and could it have been remediated without too much effort instead, given the very expensive S/S alternative?
Cheers.
Ken
Sent: Tuesday, 7 June 2016 1:20 PM
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Coolant pipe entertainment Re: replacing heater hose
Got them from Just Kampers AU, was able to convince them to give them to me for $550 (listing price $660!, $460 or something is the 2wd pipes), may or may not have been cheaper to get from gowesty once you consider shipping / currency conversion. Had someone
tell me to make sure you get RHD not LHD ones, but I can't see how there would be a difference?
For the record I had the gowesty temporary fix kit in place. The temporary fix worked for about 8 years until I finally had one let go on the highway. Good thing I had the heater on my bare feet and wondered why all of a sudden the heater went cold...
---In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, <jackthebearau@...> wrote :
From: "me@... [Syncro_T3_Australia]" <Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com>
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, 7 June 2016, 11:59
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Coolant pipe entertainment Re: replacing heater hose
---In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, <aaronjlewis71@...> wrote :
Pulling and pushing.
Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
On Monday, June 6, 2016, 9:12 AM, me@... [Syncro_T3_Australia] <Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com> wrote:Hi All Again,
A question and note. First question can someone confirm for me replacing the long coolant pipes with the two-piece stainless steel version, does the van need to be on a hoist to do this job? Is it possible just up on jackstands, although frustrating? Tried the other day but the pipe got jammed trying to pull it out, I was running out of daylight so just put it back in place.
Then to note it does appear those two pipes Roger disappear past a rubber grommet to get to the heater so I'm not game to have at them at this point. Might do the long 5/8 pipes but yes will need to track down some good pipe at the right price, as I might get about 8m of it to have some spare. Silly supercheap auto said they had it in stock on their computer and wasn't there when I made it to the store.
Thanks all, Sam
From: "me@samarnold.org [Syncro_T3_Australia]" <Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com>
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, 7 June 2016, 14:41
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Coolant pipe entertainment Re: replacing heater hose
Just a few other notes in case anyone interested. Looks like gowesty currently has the stainless pipes on special, Stainless Steel Coolant Pipe Set - 4WD | GoWesty
Secondly, of interest to get a 'heater hose' kit from van-cafe, however has stuff for a rear heater that many of us wouldn't need, they have the following note on their webpage...
Van Cafe: Vanagon Parts - Heater Hose Kit | Hoses
I will upload a photo of my failed pipe. You can see the end which failed had the metal piece almost completely worked out of the pipe. Yes if it wasn't for these rusting end pieces these pipes are a very solid material. So I think the gowesty temporary fix kit... hmmm maybe because i had undone these once or twice over the years to flush coolant using a garden hose, maybe corrugated dirt roads over time, maybe the rubber pipe that was clamped onto it getting old... anyway there was no leaks at all, until yes on the highway it just left go all of a sudden. Perhaps if you remove the rusting metal piece altogether, and then make sure your pipes are very well supported so there is no down force on the joins during bumpy roads then this would be a permanent fix? Or of course the expensive stainless steel pipes option.
A weekend camp sounds great Ken, but my van is about to go to paint this weekend (yay!) and I've just had a steering issue crop up... which I will put a question in another post. So maybe something in 2-3 months time, not too far from Sydney?
Hope you are well, Sam