Rock and Roll Bed

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Eddie,

They certainly do.  The test rigs are quite complex because the ADR doesn’t muck around!  They specify forces in several directions, including side forces.  The ADR is 64 pages of small print and compliance diagrams!

Les

From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of bergodaz@ozemail.com.au
Sent: 08 April 2014 10:17
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Rock and Roll Bed

Les, do ADRs take into account the forces placed on a seat from a rear end shunt?

 

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Can't understand how a RR bed seat with only 16mm ply used for the backrest could get through ADR's. I'm sure there are different types of RR set ups , but the one I had in my Trakka relied only on the ply for it's strength across the width of it's backrest. Eddie.
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ADRs are evolving.
There was a time when they did not exist.
We once had a 74 T2 camper conversion with a very primitive fold down back seat.
It would not survive a current ADR, but if the van still exists it is exempt from ADRs because this feature preexisted ADRs.

When I put seven seat Caravelle seats in our 72 T3 Window Van, I had to get an engineers certificate,
and even though we were fitting stock c. 1989 VW Caravelle seats and mounts to preexisting mounting points, the engineer exhibited great gravitas.

Our 1989 Syncro was VINed as a window van, but it was fitted out as an 8 seater Caravelle using correct seats, mounts and mounting points.
It came with a Trakka sticker on one of the windows which expressed some sort of approval.
I remember ringing Trakka at the time but they were vague on the purpose of the sticker.
I did not bother with an engineer's certificate when I put seven seat Caravelle seats to it in their place.

When I built the Bergmeister and fitted the Porsche engine, etc., it got an engineer's certificate,
but I have it on good authority that I would not be able to build another one and expect it to be certificated.

It is all so that "Nanny State" can absolve herself of all responsibility and blame someone else.

Peter



--Original Message Text---
From: bergodaz@ozemail.com.au
Date: 07 Apr 2014 19:12:14 -0700



Can't understand how a RR bed seat with only 16mm ply used for the backrest could get through ADR's. I'm sure there are different types of RR set ups , but the one I had in my Trakka relied only on the ply for it's strength across the width of it's backrest. Eddie.




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Thank you to everyone that contributed to this discussion.  Our new parents have decided to sell their Kombi after they weighed everything up.  The bus only cost them $2500 and they are only in Australia until August. So they think the added expense of fitting approved seats is not worth it . Cheers Greg
On Tuesday, 8 April 2014 12:49 PM, Peter Schweinsberg <peter@peterandval.com> wrote:


ADRs are evolving.
There was a time when they did not exist.
We once had a 74 T2 camper conversion with a very primitive fold down back seat.
It would not survive a current ADR, but if the van still exists it is exempt from ADRs because this feature preexisted ADRs.

When I put seven seat Caravelle seats in our 72 T3 Window Van, I had to get an engineers certificate,
and even though we were fitting stock c. 1989 VW Caravelle seats and mounts to preexisting mounting points, the engineer exhibited great gravitas.

Our 1989 Syncro was VINed as a window van, but it was fitted out as an 8 seater Caravelle using correct seats, mounts and mounting points.
It came with a Trakka sticker on one of the windows which expressed some sort of approval.
I remember ringing Trakka at the time but they were vague on the purpose of the sticker.
I did not bother with an engineer's certificate when I put seven seat Caravelle seats to it in their place.

When I built the Bergmeister and fitted the Porsche engine, etc., it got an engineer's certificate,
but I have it on good authority that I would not be able to build another one and expect it to be certificated.

It is all so that "Nanny State" can absolve herself of all responsibility and blame someone else.

Peter



--Original Message Text---

From: bergodaz@ozemail.com.au
Date: 07 Apr 2014 19:12:14 -0700



Can't understand how a RR bed seat with only 16mm ply used for the backrest could get through ADR's. I'm sure there are different types of RR set ups , but the one I had in my Trakka relied only on the ply for it's strength across the width of it's backrest. Eddie.