Smoke Alarms for moveable dwellings
That'll look nice hanging from the roof!

Phill
----- Original Message -----From: hdvwocSent: Friday, March 04, 2011 9:16 PMSubject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Smoke Alarms Now Law in NSWSmoke alarms will now be required in campervans etc.
Smoke Alarms for moveable dwellings
That'll look nice hanging from the roof!
Phill
On Mar 4, 2011, at 2:16 AM, "hdvwoc" <plander@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
Smoke alarms will now be required in campervans etc.
Smoke Alarms for moveable dwellings
That'll look nice hanging from the roof!
Phill
I remember it wasn't so long ago we were being told federally "to be alert NOT alarmed." Perhaps I should sleep under a fire blanket.
Roger
--- On Fri, 4/3/11, hdvwoc <plander@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
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> Ken Garratt <unclekenz@hotmail.com> wrote:find me actually asleep.
> So for a successful prosecution, a regulator has first to get out there and
> KenThey cannot check without a search warrant.
>
> Ken Garratt <unclekenz@hotmail.com> wrote:find me actually asleep.
> So for a successful prosecution, a regulator has first to get out there and
> KenThey cannot check without a search warrant.
>
> Ken Garratt <unclekenz@hotmail.com> wrote:find me actually asleep.
> So for a successful prosecution, a regulator has first to get out there and
> KenThey cannot check without a search warrant.
>
I'll be fitting one to my park bench and when the police arrest me for vagrancy will check there is one in the back of the divi van before I have a kip.
Seriously thanks for the alert Phil.Knowing one's rights (search warrant or permission to enter needed) is a good counter to officials who fail to use common sense.I wonder if anyone has actually perished in this way and whether a smoke alarm would have made any difference. I'm still wondering if I need to struggle with an evacuation plan and whether I leave early or stay and fight if the Victorian regulations apply to campervans.Suppose we will also have to rig up a ballcock alarm if we go camping in a flood prone area of Queensland.
Roger
--- On Sat, 5/3/11, Hartmut Kiehn <hartis@live.com.au> wrote:
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There is a serious side to this but not related to the average Syncro camper.
I am involved in the certification of motor homes and some of them are a real fright in terms of fire safety. The fitting of a smoke alarm would be of little use in many of them because there are no planned escape routes inside the vehicles.
This matter has been discussed recently on the Rvtravelau website
Les
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[mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Roger Bell
Sent: 05 March 2011 10:10
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia]
Smoke Alarms Now Law in NSW
I'll be fitting one to my park bench and when the police arrest me for vagrancy will check there is one in the back of the divi van before I have a kip. Seriously thanks for the alert Phil.Knowing one's rights (search warrant or permission to enter needed) is a good counter to officials who fail to use common sense.I wonder if anyone has actually perished in this way and whether a smoke alarm would have made any difference. I'm still wondering if I need to struggle with an evacuation plan and whether I leave early or stay and fight if the Victorian regulations apply to campervans.Suppose we will also have to rig up a ballcock alarm if we go camping in a flood prone area of Queensland . Roger |
> Ken Garratt <unclekenz@hotmail.com> wrote:find me actually asleep.
> So for a successful prosecution, a regulator has first to get out there and
> KenThey cannot check without a search warrant.
>
----- Original Message -----From: Ken GarrattSent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 10:45 AMSubject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Smoke Alarms Now Law in NSWHartmut,
Given Port now is recognised as THE Syncro mecca on this planet, aided and abetted by you due in no small measure to the latest drawcard for overnighting syncro tourists ... the Pro Hart style 3.6 x 9.3 m canvas, I now fear for you that the Port smoke alarm regulator will be inclined to make Fernbank Creek his first "Port of call" each night to check for abberent movable dwellings!So it's a worry your present small footprint companion won't be up to the task of even waking up, let alone all the rest of you in time!KenTo: syncro_t3_australia@yahoogroups.com
From: hartis@live.com.au
Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 09:16:28 +1100
Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Smoke Alarms Now Law in NSW
Don't some of these devices contain uranium ? I'll have my pop up tent handy and when they catch me, will tell them wasn't sleeping, just resting........Hart
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
From: plander@optusnet.com.au
Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 08:13:58 +1100
Subject: Re: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Smoke Alarms Now Law in NSW
Another poorly thought out law.
Has anyone here got one in their camper?
What happens when cooking in such a confined space?
What happens in the M5 tunnel?
> Ken Garratt <unclekenz@hotmail.com> wrote:
> So for a successful prosecution, a regulator has first to get out there and
find me actually asleep.
> Ken
>
They cannot check without a search warrant.
Phill
I’m a bit late into the smoke alarm debate (been away) but for who-ever asked, I have one in the Trakkadu. I seem to remember Dave at Trakka saying they were compulsory back in 2007 when I got it, but perhaps it only applied to new ‘motorhomes’ at that stage. It has caused me no dramas, except when I try to cook toast (with one of those flywire/metal frame things on the gas ring), and at about $10, and a new 9v battery every year, why not have one. Mine is firmly affixed to the top trim panel just below the pop-top, so no danger of flying objects in a crash, or vigorous off-roading. I seem to remember they are available with 2 types of sensors, only one of which contains radioactive material, but I think even this has about as much radio-activity as the old luminous clock/watch faces.
Brian Reed
From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Les Harris
Sent: Saturday, 5 March 2011 10:19 AM
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Smoke Alarms Now Law in NSW
There is a serious side to this but not related to the average Syncro camper.
I am involved in the certification of motor homes and some of them are a real fright in terms of fire safety. The fitting of a smoke alarm would be of little use in many of them because there are no planned escape routes inside the vehicles.
This matter has been discussed recently on the Rvtravelau website
Les
From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Roger Bell
Sent: 05 March 2011 10:10
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Smoke Alarms Now Law in NSW
I'll be fitting one to my park bench and when the police arrest me for vagrancy will check there is one in the back of the divi van before I have a kip. Seriously thanks for the alert Phil.Knowing one's rights (search warrant or permission to enter needed) is a good counter to officials who fail to use common sense.I wonder if anyone has actually perished in this way and whether a smoke alarm would have made any difference. I'm still wondering if I need to struggle with an evacuation plan and whether I leave early or stay and fight if the Victorian regulations apply to campervans.Suppose we will also have to rig up a ballcock alarm if we go camping in a flood prone area of Queensland. Roger |
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