This is great news. As wbx and 094 parts get harder to get its good to know there is a complete engine/trans alternative. The thing I don't understand is none of the ratios match the syncro, are they expecting you to run larger rear tyres? Greg E--- On Tue, 27/7/10, Andy Sinclair <andy@summertimerolls.com> wrote: |
----- Original Message -----From: greg espositoSent: Monday, July 26, 2010 2:29 PMSubject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Subaru reversed transmission.
This is great news. As wbx and 094 parts get harder to get its good to know there is a complete engine/trans alternative. The thing I don't understand is none of the ratios match the syncro, are they expecting you to run larger rear tyres? Greg E
--- On Tue, 27/7/10, Andy Sinclair <andy@summertimeroll s.com> wrote:
From: Andy Sinclair <andy@summertimeroll s.com>
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australi a] Subaru reversed transmission.
To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
Received: Tuesday, 27 July, 2010, 12:31 AM
Hello all,This may interest some people... www.subarugears. com manufactures a reverse cut ring and pinion to fit a subaru transmission and engine into a VW Syncro etc. It seems they also supply mounts and just about everything else that could be needed to fit them including fully rebuilt trans with the reversed ring and pinion. Not sure about diff locks though. Definately worth checking out further.Cheers, Andy Sinclair.
> Scott Daniel - Turbovans <ScottDaniel@turbovans.com> wrote:
>
> fwiw,
> there was just a massive back and forth of a dozen to 15 postings on the
> syncro yahoo group I think..
> all about this reversed ring and pinion for a Subaru transaxle.
> many pages paragraphs by the guy who builds them ..
> lots of conversation there , like 4 days ago.
> Might find that interesting to check out.
>
> Scott
> www.turbovans.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: greg esposito
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 2:29 PM
> Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Subaru reversed transmission.
>
>
>
> This is great news. As wbx and 094 parts get harder to get its
> good to know there is a complete engine/trans alternative. The thing I
> don't understand is none of the ratios match the syncro, are they
> expecting you to run larger rear tyres? Greg E
>
> --- On Tue, 27/7/10, Andy Sinclair <andy@summertimerolls.com>
> wrote:
>
>
> From: Andy Sinclair <andy@summertimerolls.com>
> Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Subaru reversed transmission.
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> Received: Tuesday, 27 July, 2010, 12:31 AM
>
>
>
> Hello all,
>
> This may interest some people... www.subarugears. com
> manufactures a reverse cut ring and pinion to fit a subaru transmission
> and engine into a VW Syncro etc. It seems they also supply mounts and
> just about everything else that could be needed to fit them including
> fully rebuilt trans with the reversed ring and pinion. Not sure about
> diff locks though. Definately worth checking out further.
>
> Cheers, Andy Sinclair.
>
>
>
>
--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Andy Sinclair" <andy@...> wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
> This may interest some people... www.subarugears.com manufactures a reverse cut ring and pinion to fit a subaru transmission and engine into a VW Syncro etc. It seems they also supply mounts and just about everything else that could be needed to fit them including fully rebuilt trans with the reversed ring and pinion. Not sure about diff locks though. Definately worth checking out further.
>
> Cheers, Andy Sinclair.
>
--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, plander@... wrote:
>
>
> What do you do about the front diff?
>
>
> > Scott Daniel - Turbovans <ScottDaniel@...> wrote:
> >
> > fwiw,
> > there was just a massive back and forth of a dozen to 15 postings on the
> > syncro yahoo group I think..
> > all about this reversed ring and pinion for a Subaru transaxle.
> > many pages paragraphs by the guy who builds them ..
> > lots of conversation there , like 4 days ago.
> > Might find that interesting to check out.
> >
> > Scott
> > www.turbovans.com
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: greg esposito
> > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 2:29 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Subaru reversed transmission.
> >
> >
> >
> > This is great news. As wbx and 094 parts get harder to get its
> > good to know there is a complete engine/trans alternative. The thing I
> > don't understand is none of the ratios match the syncro, are they
> > expecting you to run larger rear tyres? Greg E
> >
> > --- On Tue, 27/7/10, Andy Sinclair <andy@...>
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: Andy Sinclair <andy@...>
> > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Subaru reversed transmission.
> > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > Received: Tuesday, 27 July, 2010, 12:31 AM
> >
> >
> >
> > Hello all,
> >
> > This may interest some people... www.subarugears. com
> > manufactures a reverse cut ring and pinion to fit a subaru transmission
> > and engine into a VW Syncro etc. It seems they also supply mounts and
> > just about everything else that could be needed to fit them including
> > fully rebuilt trans with the reversed ring and pinion. Not sure about
> > diff locks though. Definately worth checking out further.
> >
> > Cheers, Andy Sinclair.
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
Tailshaft?
4WD controls?
This would be a big project in a syncro. I can see the benefit in a 2WD, but a syncro would be a headache.
> bencroft96 <bencroft96@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Phill and group,sorry I will clarify my last post.'do away with the VC
> ',he was talking about using the Subaru front diff. Taking the Syncro
> out of Syncro.
>
> --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, plander@... wrote:
> >
> >
> > What do you do about the front diff?
> >
> >
> > > Scott Daniel - Turbovans <ScottDaniel@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > fwiw,
> > > there was just a massive back and forth of a dozen to 15 postings on
> the
> > > syncro yahoo group I think..
> > > all about this reversed ring and pinion for a Subaru transaxle.
> > > many pages paragraphs by the guy who builds them ..
> > > lots of conversation there , like 4 days ago.
> > > Might find that interesting to check out.
> > >
> > > Scott
> > > www.turbovans.com
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: greg esposito
> > > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 2:29 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Subaru reversed transmission.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > This is great news. As wbx and 094 parts get harder to get
> its
> > > good to know there is a complete engine/trans alternative. The thing
> I
> > > don't understand is none of the ratios match the syncro, are they
> > > expecting you to run larger rear tyres? Greg E
> > >
> > > --- On Tue, 27/7/10, Andy Sinclair <andy@...>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > From: Andy Sinclair <andy@...>
> > > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Subaru reversed
> transmission.
> > > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > > Received: Tuesday, 27 July, 2010, 12:31 AM
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hello all,
> > >
> > > This may interest some people... www.subarugears. com
> > > manufactures a reverse cut ring and pinion to fit a subaru
> transmission
> > > and engine into a VW Syncro etc. It seems they also supply mounts
> and
> > > just about everything else that could be needed to fit them
> including
> > > fully rebuilt trans with the reversed ring and pinion. Not sure
> about
> > > diff locks though. Definately worth checking out further.
> > >
> > > Cheers, Andy Sinclair.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
----- Original Message -----From: bencroft96Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 3:44 PMSubject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Subaru reversed transmission.Phill and group,sorry I will clarify my last post.'do away with the VC ',he was talking about using the Subaru front diff. Taking the Syncro out of Syncro.
--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, plander@... wrote:
>
>
> What do you do about the front diff?
>
>
> > Scott Daniel - Turbovans <ScottDaniel@...> wrote:
> >
> > fwiw,
> > there was just a massive back and forth of a dozen to 15 postings on the
> > syncro yahoo group I think..
> > all about this reversed ring and pinion for a Subaru transaxle.
> > many pages paragraphs by the guy who builds them ..
> > lots of conversation there , like 4 days ago.
> > Might find that interesting to check out.
> >
> > Scott
> > www.turbovans.com
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: greg esposito
> > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 2:29 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Subaru reversed transmission.
> >
> >
> >
> > This is great news. As wbx and 094 parts get harder to get its
> > good to know there is a complete engine/trans alternative. The thing I
> > don't understand is none of the ratios match the syncro, are they
> > expecting you to run larger rear tyres? Greg E
> >
> > --- On Tue, 27/7/10, Andy Sinclair <andy@...>
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: Andy Sinclair <andy@...>
> > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Subaru reversed transmission.
> > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > Received: Tuesday, 27 July, 2010, 12:31 AM
> >
> >
> >
> > Hello all,
> >
> > This may interest some people... www.subarugears. com
> > manufactures a reverse cut ring and pinion to fit a subaru transmission
> > and engine into a VW Syncro etc. It seems they also supply mounts and
> > just about everything else that could be needed to fit them including
> > fully rebuilt trans with the reversed ring and pinion. Not sure about
> > diff locks though. Definately worth checking out further.
> >
> > Cheers, Andy Sinclair.
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
----- Original Message -----From: plander@optusnet.com.auSent: Monday, July 26, 2010 3:31 PMSubject: Re: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Subaru reversed transmission.
What do you do about the front diff?
> Scott Daniel - Turbovans <ScottDaniel@turbovans.com> wrote:
>
> fwiw,
> there was just a massive back and forth of a dozen to 15 postings on the
> syncro yahoo group I think..
> all about this reversed ring and pinion for a Subaru transaxle.
> many pages paragraphs by the guy who builds them ..
> lots of conversation there , like 4 days ago.
> Might find that interesting to check out.
>
> Scott
> www.turbovans.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: greg esposito
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 2:29 PM
> Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Subaru reversed transmission.
>
>
>
> This is great news. As wbx and 094 parts get harder to get its
> good to know there is a complete engine/trans alternative. The thing I
> don't understand is none of the ratios match the syncro, are they
> expecting you to run larger rear tyres? Greg E
>
> --- On Tue, 27/7/10, Andy Sinclair <andy@summertimerolls.com>
> wrote:
>
>
> From: Andy Sinclair <andy@summertimerolls.com>
> Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Subaru reversed transmission.
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> Received: Tuesday, 27 July, 2010, 12:31 AM
>
>
>
> Hello all,
>
> This may interest some people... www.subarugears. com
> manufactures a reverse cut ring and pinion to fit a subaru transmission
> and engine into a VW Syncro etc. It seems they also supply mounts and
> just about everything else that could be needed to fit them including
> fully rebuilt trans with the reversed ring and pinion. Not sure about
> diff locks though. Definately worth checking out further.
>
> Cheers, Andy Sinclair.
>
>
>
>
On 27/07/2010, at 9:32 AM, Scott Daniel - Turbovans wrote:now I'm even more confused about what you mean.I get the part about using a subaru front diff in a syncro van with the reversed subaru R $ P gearbox..but wonder what you mean by 'take the syncro out of syncro.'I also wonder if subaru transmissions are up to the load and stresses a syncro will put on the gearbox.- cause it's a lot, even in normal use, in my opinion.scottturbovans----- Original Message -----From: bencroft96Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 3:44 PMSubject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australi a] Subaru reversed transmission.Phill and group,sorry I will clarify my last post.'do away with the VC ',he was talking about using the Subaru front diff. Taking the Syncro out of Syncro.
--- In Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com, plander@... wrote:
>
>
> What do you do about the front diff?
>
>
> > Scott Daniel - Turbovans <ScottDaniel@ ...> wrote:
> >
> > fwiw,
> > there was just a massive back and forth of a dozen to 15 postings on the
> > syncro yahoo group I think..
> > all about this reversed ring and pinion for a Subaru transaxle.
> > many pages paragraphs by the guy who builds them ..
> > lots of conversation there , like 4 days ago.
> > Might find that interesting to check out.
> >
> > Scott
> > www.turbovans. com
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: greg esposito
> > To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
> > Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 2:29 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australi a] Subaru reversed transmission.
> >
> >
> >
> > This is great news. As wbx and 094 parts get harder to get its
> > good to know there is a complete engine/trans alternative. The thing I
> > don't understand is none of the ratios match the syncro, are they
> > expecting you to run larger rear tyres? Greg E
> >
> > --- On Tue, 27/7/10, Andy Sinclair <andy@...>
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: Andy Sinclair <andy@...>
> > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australi a] Subaru reversed transmission.
> > To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
> > Received: Tuesday, 27 July, 2010, 12:31 AM
> >
> >
> >
> > Hello all,
> >
> > This may interest some people... www.subarugears. com
> > manufactures a reverse cut ring and pinion to fit a subaru transmission
> > and engine into a VW Syncro etc. It seems they also supply mounts and
> > just about everything else that could be needed to fit them including
> > fully rebuilt trans with the reversed ring and pinion. Not sure about
> > diff locks though. Definately worth checking out further.
> >
> > Cheers, Andy Sinclair.
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
Hi Andy,
Good to see an article from you Mate.Was wondering where you were and what was wrong.Hope all is well and that your vehicles are all on the road now.Give us a call when time permits.
Cheers,
Everard
--- On Mon, 26/7/10, Andy Sinclair <andy@summertimerolls.com> wrote:
|
--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, plander@... wrote:
>
> Does he do a front diff?
> Tailshaft?
> 4WD controls?
>
> This would be a big project in a syncro. I can see the benefit in a 2WD, but a syncro would be a headache.
>
>
>
> > bencroft96 <bencroft96@...> wrote:
> >
> > Phill and group,sorry I will clarify my last post.'do away with the VC
> > ',he was talking about using the Subaru front diff. Taking the Syncro
> > out of Syncro.
> >
> > --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, plander@ wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > What do you do about the front diff?
> > >
> > >
> > > > Scott Daniel - Turbovans <ScottDaniel@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > fwiw,
> > > > there was just a massive back and forth of a dozen to 15 postings on
> > the
> > > > syncro yahoo group I think..
> > > > all about this reversed ring and pinion for a Subaru transaxle.
> > > > many pages paragraphs by the guy who builds them ..
> > > > lots of conversation there , like 4 days ago.
> > > > Might find that interesting to check out.
> > > >
> > > > Scott
> > > > www.turbovans.com
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: greg esposito
> > > > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 2:29 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Subaru reversed transmission.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > This is great news. As wbx and 094 parts get harder to get
> > its
> > > > good to know there is a complete engine/trans alternative. The thing
> > I
> > > > don't understand is none of the ratios match the syncro, are they
> > > > expecting you to run larger rear tyres? Greg E
> > > >
> > > > --- On Tue, 27/7/10, Andy Sinclair <andy@>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > From: Andy Sinclair <andy@>
> > > > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Subaru reversed
> > transmission.
> > > > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Received: Tuesday, 27 July, 2010, 12:31 AM
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hello all,
> > > >
> > > > This may interest some people... www.subarugears. com
> > > > manufactures a reverse cut ring and pinion to fit a subaru
> > transmission
> > > > and engine into a VW Syncro etc. It seems they also supply mounts
> > and
> > > > just about everything else that could be needed to fit them
> > including
> > > > fully rebuilt trans with the reversed ring and pinion. Not sure
> > about
> > > > diff locks though. Definately worth checking out further.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers, Andy Sinclair.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
>
Is that correct?
If so then,a full Subaru gearbox,front diff,drive shaft,no diff locks is not that ledgenary AWD system that has definatley proven its point since the 80s(and before that)and beyond,we call Syncro.
I agree with Phill,great news for T3s and aircooled Kombis,Beetles,Type 3s,Karman Ghias,Bajas and Manx,VW or Subaru powered,street/race,but massive job on a Syncro.
His gearboxes were originally for Subaru powered Volkswagens,but recently has done some prototypes for aircooled Beetle owners,who are very interested.(and they should be!)
As far as stress in the Suby gearboxes and loads,you wouldnt know.
But you do remember Quattro.
--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Daniel - Turbovans" <ScottDaniel@...> wrote:
>
> now I'm even more confused about what you mean.
> I get the part about using a subaru front diff in a syncro van with the reversed subaru R $ P gearbox..
> but wonder what you mean by 'take the syncro out of syncro.'
>
> I also wonder if subaru transmissions are up to the load and stresses a syncro will put on the gearbox.
> - cause it's a lot, even in normal use, in my opinion.
>
> scott
> turbovans
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: bencroft96
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 3:44 PM
> Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Subaru reversed transmission.
>
>
>
> Phill and group,sorry I will clarify my last post.'do away with the VC ',he was talking about using the Subaru front diff. Taking the Syncro out of Syncro.
>
> --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, plander@ wrote:
> >
> >
> > What do you do about the front diff?
> >
> >
> > > Scott Daniel - Turbovans <ScottDaniel@> wrote:
> > >
> > > fwiw,
> > > there was just a massive back and forth of a dozen to 15 postings on the
> > > syncro yahoo group I think..
> > > all about this reversed ring and pinion for a Subaru transaxle.
> > > many pages paragraphs by the guy who builds them ..
> > > lots of conversation there , like 4 days ago.
> > > Might find that interesting to check out.
> > >
> > > Scott
> > > www.turbovans.com
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: greg esposito
> > > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 2:29 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Subaru reversed transmission.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > This is great news. As wbx and 094 parts get harder to get its
> > > good to know there is a complete engine/trans alternative. The thing I
> > > don't understand is none of the ratios match the syncro, are they
> > > expecting you to run larger rear tyres? Greg E
> > >
> > > --- On Tue, 27/7/10, Andy Sinclair <andy@>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > From: Andy Sinclair <andy@>
> > > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Subaru reversed transmission.
> > > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > > Received: Tuesday, 27 July, 2010, 12:31 AM
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hello all,
> > >
> > > This may interest some people... www.subarugears. com
> > > manufactures a reverse cut ring and pinion to fit a subaru transmission
> > > and engine into a VW Syncro etc. It seems they also supply mounts and
> > > just about everything else that could be needed to fit them including
> > > fully rebuilt trans with the reversed ring and pinion. Not sure about
> > > diff locks though. Definately worth checking out further.
> > >
> > > Cheers, Andy Sinclair.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>