Temperature sender screw in or push in.?????

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I've just picked up a new "temp sender" the two pin one that sends info to the cpu not the dash temp gauge. The one i've recieved is a push in type apn 029906041a. On further inspection it looks like i need a screw in type. My problem is i can't find a reference in bentler's to a screw in type. Any one shed any light. THANKS. BILL
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Just found a reference in Bentleys 24.49 saying push in not used in syncro vehicles but no further reference to what is used in syncro vehicles. Anyone replaced one lately. Bill

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Bill" <marg_bill@...> wrote:
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> I've just picked up a new "temp sender" the two pin one that sends info to the cpu not the dash temp gauge. The one i've recieved is a push in type apn 029906041a. On further inspection it looks like i need a screw in type. My problem is i can't find a reference in bentler's to a screw in type. Any one shed any light. THANKS. BILL
>
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It's the same as the one used on the 1.9 wbxr engine.
pictured on page 19.8 in Bentley.

A chart of temp versus ohms is shown on page 24.19.

that still won't get you a part # though.
If you can order one for an 83 to 85 T3 van with 1.9 wbxr engine ..
that'll get you the right one., pretty sure.

there are a few mistakes in the Bentley manual.
one of the most glaring I know  of is in the cooling system section for testing the waterboxer pressure cap ..
those 'not-that-reliable'  blue pressure caps.
There picture shows pressure testing the very conventional all metal cap used on the 82 and 83 diesel vanagon.
They even tell you the adapter part number to fit the cap ..so you can use a regular pressure tester.....
When you look up that adapter number ..it's for the metal diesel vanagon van .......nothing to do with waterboxers at all.

I have had parts people not be able to look up a Temp Sensor II for a Syncro van ..
they'd come up with what you got ..the temp sensor II for a 2WD 2.1 waterboxer van.
Obviously ..
it fits the plastic t-stat housing used on 2WD 2.1 wbxr engines ..
that part will fit on your engine ..
but your aluminum t-stat housing is much better built of course.

scott
www.turbovans.com

On 3/1/2012 7:06 PM, Bill wrote:
 

Just found a reference in Bentleys 24.49 saying push in not used in syncro vehicles but no further reference to what is used in syncro vehicles. Anyone replaced one lately. Bill

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Bill" <marg_bill@...> wrote:
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> I've just picked up a new "temp sender" the two pin one that sends info to the cpu not the dash temp gauge. The one i've recieved is a push in type apn 029906041a. On further inspection it looks like i need a screw in type. My problem is i can't find a reference in bentler's to a screw in type. Any one shed any light. THANKS. BILL
>

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Whats the part number of the one you got? Temp II is 025 906 041a I think

From: Bill <marg_bill@westnet.com.au>
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, 2 March 2012 2:06 PM
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Temperature sender screw in or push in.?????

 
Just found a reference in Bentleys 24.49 saying push in not used in syncro vehicles but no further reference to what is used in syncro vehicles. Anyone replaced one lately. Bill

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Bill" <marg_bill@...> wrote:
>
> I've just picked up a new "temp sender" the two pin one that sends info to the cpu not the dash temp gauge. The one i've recieved is a push in type apn 029906041a. On further inspection it looks like i need a screw in type. My problem is i can't find a reference in bentler's to a screw in type. Any one shed any light. THANKS. BILL
>



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Screw in and is made of copper or something similar have replaced 2 in mine so far. If you are in Sydney millers at Campsie or volksmuller at arcadia will have them.    Bob dale

 

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Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Temperature sender screw in or push in.?????

 

 

Just found a reference in Bentleys 24.49 saying push in not used in syncro vehicles but no further reference to what is used in syncro vehicles. Anyone replaced one lately. Bill

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Bill" <marg_bill@...> wrote:
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> I've just picked up a new "temp sender" the two pin one that sends info to the cpu not the dash temp gauge. The one i've recieved is a push in type apn 029906041a. On further inspection it looks like i need a screw in type. My problem is i can't find a reference in bentler's to a screw in type. Any one shed any light. THANKS. BILL
>

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That last one was the push in - o/ring one. The screw in is 0 280 130 026 which is the syncro specific one. I think this is the one they call temp II. Greg E

From: greg esposito <gregespo73@yahoo.com>
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Sent: Friday, 2 March 2012 2:36 PM
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Temperature sender screw in or push in.?????

 
Whats the part number of the one you got? Temp II is 025 906 041a I think

From: Bill <marg_bill@westnet.com.au>
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, 2 March 2012 2:06 PM
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Temperature sender screw in or push in.?????

 
Just found a reference in Bentleys 24.49 saying push in not used in syncro vehicles but no further reference to what is used in syncro vehicles. Anyone replaced one lately. Bill

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Bill" <marg_bill@...> wrote:
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> I've just picked up a new "temp sender" the two pin one that sends info to the cpu not the dash temp gauge. The one i've recieved is a push in type apn 029906041a. On further inspection it looks like i need a screw in type. My problem is i can't find a reference in bentler's to a screw in type. Any one shed any light. THANKS. BILL
>





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Scott,Greg,Bob. Thanks for the lightning response. In summary.
The push in temperature sender for 2wd 2'1 wbw p/n 029 906 041a is not suitable for the 2.1 wbx in the t3 SYNCRO. The correct part is the same as the 1.9 wbxr motor part no 0 280 130 026 available from well stocked large city vw suppliers. Thanks guys much appreciated. This is particularly usefull for us country based folk who do most of our parts sourcing on phone or internet using part no's. Thanks again Bill.

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Dale" <rcdale@...> wrote:
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> Screw in and is made of copper or something similar have replaced 2 in mine
> so far. If you are in Sydney millers at Campsie or volksmuller at arcadia
> will have them. Bob dale
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> From: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bill
> Sent: Friday, 2 March 2012 2:06 PM
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Temperature sender screw in or push
> in.?????
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> Just found a reference in Bentleys 24.49 saying push in not used in syncro
> vehicles but no further reference to what is used in syncro vehicles. Anyone
> replaced one lately. Bill
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> --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Syncro_T3_Australia%40yahoogroups.com> , "Bill" <marg_bill@>
> wrote:
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> > I've just picked up a new "temp sender" the two pin one that sends info to
> the cpu not the dash temp gauge. The one i've recieved is a push in type apn
> 029906041a. On further inspection it looks like i need a screw in type. My
> problem is i can't find a reference in bentler's to a screw in type. Any one
> shed any light. THANKS. BILL
> >
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O.k. I always wondered why they called one temp 2, got the books out and worked it out. The air temp sensor in the air flow meter is temp 1 and the push in sensor on the thermo housing is temp 2. A grid in the bentley shows resistance relative to temp for diagnosis for those two sensors. The additional sensor - blue screw in - for syncro, I cant find a grid for - help? This is the one syncro owners complain about related to rough running Bill. I assume this is the one you are trying to replace (0280130026). Greg E

From: greg esposito <gregespo73@yahoo.com>
To: "Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com" <Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, 2 March 2012 2:50 PM
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Temperature sender screw in or push in.?????

 
That last one was the push in - o/ring one. The screw in is 0 280 130 026 which is the syncro specific one. I think this is the one they call temp II. Greg E

From: greg esposito <gregespo73@yahoo.com>
To: "Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com" <Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, 2 March 2012 2:36 PM
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Temperature sender screw in or push in.?????

 
Whats the part number of the one you got? Temp II is 025 906 041a I think

From: Bill <marg_bill@westnet.com.au>
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, 2 March 2012 2:06 PM
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Temperature sender screw in or push in.?????

 
Just found a reference in Bentleys 24.49 saying push in not used in syncro vehicles but no further reference to what is used in syncro vehicles. Anyone replaced one lately. Bill

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Bill" <marg_bill@...> wrote:
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> I've just picked up a new "temp sender" the two pin one that sends info to the cpu not the dash temp gauge. The one i've recieved is a push in type apn 029906041a. On further inspection it looks like i need a screw in type. My problem is i can't find a reference in bentler's to a screw in type. Any one shed any light. THANKS. BILL
>







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Greg. Have a look at Scott's post. The temp sensor Scott refers to on page 19.8 of Bentley i think will be the correct part no you refer to as 0 280 130 026(screw in type).24.19 has the chart you are looking for.(OHMS/TEMP/REVS) The one i ordered and got was 029 906 041a(push in type 2wd only) Bill.

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, greg esposito <gregespo73@...> wrote:
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> O.k. I always wondered why they called one temp 2, got the books out and worked it out. The air temp sensor in the air flow meter is temp 1 and the push in sensor on the thermo housing is temp 2. A grid in the bentley shows resistance relative to temp for diagnosis for those two sensors. The additional sensor - blue screw in - for syncro, I cant find a grid for - help? This is the one syncro owners complain about related to rough running Bill. I assume this is the one you are trying to replace (0280130026). Greg E
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> To: "Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com" <Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, 2 March 2012 2:50 PM
> Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Temperature sender screw in or push in.?????
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> That last one was the push in - o/ring one. The screw in is 0 280 130 026 which is the syncro specific one. I think this is the one they call temp II. Greg E
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> From: greg esposito <gregespo73@...>
> To: "Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com" <Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, 2 March 2012 2:36 PM
> Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Temperature sender screw in or push in.?????
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> Whats the part number of the one you got? Temp II is 025 906 041a I think
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> From: Bill <marg_bill@...>
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Friday, 2 March 2012 2:06 PM
> Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Temperature sender screw in or push in.?????
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> Just found a reference in Bentleys 24.49 saying push in not used in syncro vehicles but no further reference to what is used in syncro vehicles. Anyone replaced one lately. Bill
>
> --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Bill" <marg_bill@> wrote:
> >
> > I've just picked up a new "temp sender" the two pin one that sends info to the cpu not the dash temp gauge. The one i've recieved is a push in type apn 029906041a. On further inspection it looks like i need a screw in type. My problem is i can't find a reference in bentler's to a screw in type. Any one shed any light. THANKS. BILL
> >
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Yeah Bill, I realised after I posted that the two sensors must have the same values. Vw just put a thread on the syncro one because it is in an aluminium casting. Greg E

From: Bill <marg_bill@westnet.com.au>
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, 2 March 2012 4:36 PM
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Temperature sender screw in or push in.?????

 
Greg. Have a look at Scott's post. The temp sensor Scott refers to on page 19.8 of Bentley i think will be the correct part no you refer to as 0 280 130 026(screw in type).24.19 has the chart you are looking for.(OHMS/TEMP/REVS) The one i ordered and got was 029 906 041a(push in type 2wd only) Bill.

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, greg esposito <gregespo73@...> wrote:
>
> O.k. I always wondered why they called one temp 2, got the books out and worked it out. The air temp sensor in the air flow meter is temp 1 and the push in sensor on the thermo housing is temp 2. A grid in the bentley shows resistance relative to temp for diagnosis for those two sensors. The additional sensor - blue screw in - for syncro, I cant find a grid for - help? This is the one syncro owners complain about related to rough running Bill. I assume this is the one you are trying to replace (0280130026). Greg E
>
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> ________________________________
> From: greg esposito <gregespo73@...>
> To: "Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com" <Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, 2 March 2012 2:50 PM
> Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Temperature sender screw in or push in.?????
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> That last one was the push in - o/ring one. The screw in is 0 280 130 026 which is the syncro specific one. I think this is the one they call temp II. Greg E
>
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> ________________________________
> From: greg esposito <gregespo73@...>
> To: "Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com" <Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, 2 March 2012 2:36 PM
> Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Temperature sender screw in or push in.?????
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> Whats the part number of the one you got? Temp II is 025 906 041a I think
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> ________________________________
> From: Bill <marg_bill@...>
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Friday, 2 March 2012 2:06 PM
> Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Temperature sender screw in or push in.?????
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> Just found a reference in Bentleys 24.49 saying push in not used in syncro vehicles but no further reference to what is used in syncro vehicles. Anyone replaced one lately. Bill
>
> --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Bill" <marg_bill@> wrote:
> >
> > I've just picked up a new "temp sender" the two pin one that sends info to the cpu not the dash temp gauge. The one i've recieved is a push in type apn 029906041a. On further inspection it looks like i need a screw in type. My problem is i can't find a reference in bentler's to a screw in type. Any one shed any light. THANKS. BILL
> >
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