Van died - looking for ideas?

Hello everyone,


having had a full gearbox rebuild, followed by an engine rebuild, my van is again giving me grief..


Since getting it back after the motor was rebuilt I have driven very little as I was away for 5 weeks. In the last week or so I've been taking it around town on short journeys, and all seemed ok, until a couple of days ago, as I turned into my street, the engine simply died.

The only thing I can remember doing out of the ordinary beforehand was turning the heating on as it was a bit cold in the cab, not that it should in any way be related? 


When I first tried restarting it did so, but only ran 1-2 seconds before dying again. I just had enough momentum to turn into my driveway and park, phew!


Now, it will crank over just fine, but will not fire up, at all. So far I have checked fuel pressure (all good at 2.5psi) and I can hear the fuel pump priming every time. I've also checked voltage at the coil input, and it's getting the expected pulses from the distributor.


So I am stumped, and wondered if anyone has ever experienced anything similar, and if there's an obvious or know issue that would cause such a thing?


Any and all ideas or suggestions welcome!


Thanks in advance,

Gaetan



Hi Gaetan,

It can be a few things that cause.

The Hall sender is a common issue. Common failure and fairly easy to replace.

Do you actually have spark?

Did you remove a plug and test it when cranking next to the block?

If you have spark and fuel it should start.

Cheers,


Scott

2.5psi?

Thanks Scott. Hall sensor was replaced as part of the rebuild, and according to a VW mechanic who popped over yesterday with the fuel gauge, the sensor is working as we're getting the voltage pulses at the coil input.

Fred, what did you mean by your 2.5psi? That is the fuel pressure we read yesterday at the T-piece in the fuel inlet hoses going to the injectors, showing the fuel pump is pressurising the fuel. Are you implying incorrect pressure? It might have been 25psi / 2.5bar possibly?
2.5 psi isn’t enough to supply a carburettor let alone an EFI system. Scott is right don’t get bogged down in technical stuff yet. Check for spark at the end of the h/t lead and report back. 
Greg

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What about actual spark?

OK so finally got around to do some tests yesterday, and no there is no spark at the plugs. 

Considering the coil input is getting a pulse, that would point at a coil failure, right?

I also tested at one of the injector plugs, and there is a pulse there too, so hopefully that means the ECU is still doing its work. 

I'm going to see if I can borrow a replacement coil from my local Vdub specialist and fingers crossed..

Good work.

Dont trust what a mechanic tells you.

Always do your own tests when they are so inept they cant work out that there is no spark.

I still suspect the hall sender.

They do an instant fail regularly - coils are fairly reliable.


In 2016, I went through the process of replacing coil, hall sender, distributor, oxygen sensor and other parts when I had an intermittent engine cut out/no spark problem.

What fixed it eventually was replacing the relay that is in the black box above the coil. Not the fuel pump one, the other one for the ECU etc. Relay Part Number 321.919.505A.
Worth a try.
Regards
Peter

Thanks Peter.
In my black box both relays are identical. I’ve tried swapping them but it made no difference, so I’m assuming they can be ruled out.

Hoping the coil is it.. will report.

Cheers
Gaetan

Sad to hear of your ongoing issues Gaetan.
In your checking/testing it's worth re-looking at all of you connections, especially earth connections.
I had a sudden cut out issue on my 2WD T3, spent ages testing every component and found no issues, but still did not run. In the end I removed and cleaned every connection which fixed the issue!

The cables in our aging machines are getting brittle also which can lead to cracks in the insulation and corrosion getting in.
Richard
Hi Gaetan,

I travelled the same path in 2016, and posted the following message to the group at that time;

Digifant Ignition Coil, spark plug lead and rotor testing

There are a number of shade-tree tests for your ignition coil, but to determine whether your coil is on the way out, the only proper test is with a multimeter.

Inside an ignition coil are two coils of wire on top of each other, called windings. One is called the primary winding, the other is the secondary. The primary winding gathers the energy to make a spark and the secondary sends it to the distributor to be distributed to the spark plugs. Either one of these windings can go bad and cause the ignition coil to fail.

To test the coil's secondary winding, attach the test probes to the outer 12V pole and the centre pole (where the main wire goes to the distributor). Determine the resistance and check to see if it's within the range indicated in your repair manual. If it is, your coil is up to the task. If it's even slightly out of range, your coil should be replaced.

VW T3 coil;

These specifications are for the original Bosch coil with a green label, VW part number 211 905 115D, fitted to all VW DJ & MV transporters from 1984-92.

If the engine suddenly stops or runs rough, the first test is to place your hand on the coil. If it is too hot to touch, the coil is faulty.

If an ignition coil fails completely, it will make no spark at all. But if it is performing below par, it can make a weak spark that can cause the van to run badly.

I once tested three used VW coils in search of a good one. All would make the engine run, but none of them were up to spec. The purchase of a new coil made a noticeable difference.

The primary winding of the ignition coil is the first to receive voltage from the battery when the ignition switch is turned on, via terminal 15 (+).

Using a multimeter, place the probes on the small outside wires (terminals 15(+) and 1(-). If the primary resistance between the two is 0.5 to 0.8Ω, the primary winding is ok and you can go on to the secondary test. If it is out of spec, replace the coil with the spare that you should always carry under the seat.

The secondary winding of the ignition coil delivers the spark to the distributor to be sent to the spark plugs. If it's bad, you'll get a weak spark or no spark at all.

To test the secondary winding, attach test probes to terminal 15+ and the centre pole (where the thick wire goes to the distributor). The resistance should be 2.4 to 3.5 kΩ. If it is out of range, toss the coil.

If ignition coil is overheating and breaking down, causing misfiring and lack of power, test the ignition switching function of the control unit (the black box under the rear seat, otherwise known as the ECU).

Connect the multimeter probes to terminals 15 (+) and 1 (-) on the ignition coil.

Disconnect Hall Sender plug on the side of the distributor.

Have an assistant switch the ignition ON.

Ground the centre wire of hall sender plug for approximately 3 seconds. The displayed voltage must increase briefly to approximately 4.5 volts.

If not, replace control unit. (See Bentley manual 28.44).

(My ECU failed this test – the symptoms were misfiring and backfiring after driving for over 45 minutes. It was more noticeable when travelling uphill at highway speeds. The coil was too hot to hold. I replaced the ECU and it solved the problem.)

Engine earths; clean the connections on the braided wire between the engine and the bodywork with emery paper and a wire brush. According to an NRMA survey, poor earths are the most common cause of engine breakdowns. Also check that the earth connection on the battery is clean at both ends.

Check all electrical connections, check wires for cracked or melted insulation, or broken wires or connections that can cause an intermittent problem. The fragile connector on the hall sender is often damaged. Wet or dirty connections should be carefully cleaned.

Check relays and connections in the black plastic box on the passenger side of the engine compartment. Always carry spare relays and replace if in doubt.

Ignition leads; test leads for continuity and damage. This is the first test that should be run if an engine is running rough. Some brand new leads will run badly straight out of the box (JustKampers). Check the connections to the coil, distributor cap, and spark-plug connectors. Each connector has some built-in resistance to reduce radio interference, but the leads themselves are copper and should have no resistance at all.

SILICONE LEADS ARE NOT RECCOMENDED because they have a built-in resistance. As the VW has two short leads and two long leads, the longer leads will deliver less voltage to those two spark plugs which will result in rough running.

Suppressor plug lead to distributor cap connectors should have resistance of approximately 1,000 ohms (1 kΩ ) with an acceptable range of 0.6 to 1.4 kΩ

Spark plug connectors should have a resistance of 4 to 6 kΩ. Check that they are dry and undamaged and tightly connected to the ignition leads.

Therefore, the King Lead to the coil, with connectors intact, should have a total resistance of 2 kΩ

Rotor 0.6-1.4 kΩ. Check for damage. Always carry a spare and replace if in doubt.

Distributor cap; check for cracks and carbon tracking, and inspect the spring-loaded graphite centre-post as it may wear or break. Always carry a spare and replace if in doubt.

Spark Plugs; Check that the correct spark plugs are fitted, and inspect the condition of the ceramic insulator, the integrity of the electrodes, and the spark plug gaps.

It is best to check all of these items in the comfort of your shed at least once a year (or before any major expedition) along with changing oils, fluids and filters, checking all the sensors and adjustments as per the Bentley manual, and lubricating everything that moves.

It is educational to remove the engine lid and run the engine on a dark night. Stray sparks, luminescence and lightning bolts can be very illuminating.

If an ignition coil fails completely, it will make no spark at all. But if it is performing below par, it can make a weak spark that can cause the van to run badly.

Symptoms can include partial loss of power, erratic idle, stumble and miss on acceleration from low revs, flat spots, missing under load, and cutting out. Symptoms may only present themselves (or get worse) as the engine heats up (and the coil is too hot to touch). If the engine stops, or fails to start when hot, it may restart after the coil has cooled down.

Although a coil passes all tests with the ohm-meter it can still deteriorate when hot, due to degradation of internal insulation.

If planning a desert expedition, fit a new coil and carry the old one for a spare.

Problems with a weak coil will be exacerbated by poor maintenance of other ignition components such as faulty or incorrect spark plugs, excessive spark plug gaps, faulty plug leads or connectors, or loose or dirty electrical connections. Broken wires are not always obvious, causing intermittent faults. Old and cracked distributor caps and rotor buttons, and poor earth connections from the engine to the bodywork can be problematic. A combination of any or all of theses conditions can contribute to the early demise of a coil.

Searching for a substitute coil;

A canister coil for suppressed electronic ignition systems is used. It is not the same as that used on the VW air-cooled engines with points ignition. It has a female king-post with a male prong for 6mm high-tension lead to the distributor. (Some non-genuine coils will accept a 7mm HT lead. The metal ‘wings’ on the HT end-plug needs to be bent outward slightly for a good fit).

The original coil was manufactured by Bosch and carried VW part number 211 905 115D, and carried a green label. They were fitted to all VW DJ & MV transporters from 1984-92. Versions of this coil are still readily available from around $35 - $50[i] from most VW parts suppliers. (Some early models had the 211 905 115 B coil with .52Ω to .76Ω primary and 2.4Ω to 3.5Ω secondary resistance)

The Bosch p/n was 0221 122 350, (now discontinued and replaced with 0221 122 349). I priced one of the latter at Autobarn for $160.[ii] Discussion on other websites indicates that Bosch components are rarely made in Germany nowadays. The quality of the Spanish and Mexican units are not as good as the German, but far superior to the cheap Chinese clones. Google “bosch ignition coil 0221 122 349.” I found them on Ebay for $106 to $120 in July 2016 and purchased one in June 2017 for $120 from Volkspares, Bungendore. Nick told me that the retail price was $162.50.

If searching for parts from a wrecking yard, check out VW Golf, Passat, Polo and Jetta models of similar vintage. They can also be found on various Audi 80/90/100, BMW 316, 318 & 525, Saab 900, Holden Calibra, and Volvo 240, 740, 760 & 940 models in the same era.

Some engines (primarily imports with DF, DG, SP and DJ prefix) were fitted with a coil with a grey label – 191 905 115 A/B/C with .6Ω to .8Ω primary and 6.9Ω to 8.5Ω secondary resistance)

Other brands claim to be an identical replacement;[iii]

Fuel Miser CC501 ($46 - 110)[iv] commonly available in Australian stores.

RAE C285 commonly available in Australian stores.

Beru ZS123 or ZS 124 (both listed for all VW T3 1.9 & 2.1 1984-91).

NGK U180 48343

IGC 137 (around $100[v])

Quinton-Hazell (p/n not known. Given bad reports on Syncro site).

Topran 103 240 (sold through some outlets as 211 905 115D) $49[vi]

I have tried the Topran, and it let me down on the first trip – luckily I still had the original under the seat!

A search of the internet reveals other alternatives; Automega, Bremi (11906 & 11822), BBT (ICO 3105), Beru (0040100124), Bougicord (155084), Facet (96206), Era (880030), JP (905210001), Mapco, Pex, Quinton Hazell, Standard, Vemo (V10700072 & V10700052), and several Chinese manufacturers – Frey, Microne, Hongsheng and Jitai.



[i] JK $35 May 2016.

[ii] May 2016. Also available on the usual US, UK and Euro websites.

[iii] Please double-check before ordering.

[iv] Repco $46, Auto One $110, May 2016

[v] eBay

[vi] VWHeritage Australia May 2016. (I fitted one in April, it failed on the first long trip).


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That’s interesting because I know they are not identical.
Different part numbers and prices to buy.
Didn’t think  they would be interchangeable as they have different functions.
Though I'm definitely no  expert!
Peter G.J. Leolkes 
So I finally found the culprit, and it was...

..the distributor rotor arm! It's got 1kΩ resistor in it, which must have just blown. Never seen such a failure, but there it was. Swapped it with a second-hand one I had in the van and vroom! it started right up.

Weird. Just weird. But it happens. Just glad it ended up being a cheap fix, I already spent $16k(!) in the last 14 months keeping it running.

You live and learn! Thanks to all who responded with suggestions.

Gaetan
Hi Roger,
Excellent write up, thanks for reposting.

Out of curiosity, did you check the primary/secondary windings when hot to compare? Or does the range of resistance you quote take changes with temperature into account?
Interesting test on the ECU, I don't remember reading that one before, so good to know!

I have had it a couple of times my bus lacks power after a hot start (re-starting 5-20 min after turning off). I thought it might be to do with the temp sender. Removing/cleaning the plug seemed to get it running properly again. Have checked it all over recently, and have not had it since, but maybe I should look at the coil also!

I have a new plug and lead for the temp sender, but no keen to cut the old plug off yet if it's not the issue.

Thanks
Richard

Excellent result.

Very cheap and easy fix.

Cheers,


Scott

Yes, great result in the end!!

Frustrating to find though.

Richard


Good to hear.
and useful to know as well.

Here's a copy of a post I did on the issue back in 2016;

Digifant Ignition Coil, spark plug lead and rotor testing

There are a number of on-the-car, shade-tree tests for your ignition coil, but to definitively determine whether your coil is on the way out, the only proper coil test is with a multimeter. Why? Here's the rundown:

Inside an ignition coil are two coils of wire on top of each other. These coils are called windings. One winding is called the primary winding, the other is the secondary. The primary winding gets the juice together to make a spark and the secondary sends it out the door to the distributor. Either one of these windings can go bad and cause your ignition coil to fail.

Sometimes an ignition coil is bad, clearly bad, as in it makes no spark at all. But if a coil is on the way out, but not dead yet, it can make a weak spark that can cause the car to run rough or wrong. ‘Flat spots’ while driving are a give-away. By testing an ignition coil with a multimeter while it's disconnected, you'll be using data and numbers to determine the health of the coil rather than your eyeballs and dead reckoning.

We'll show you how to test both the primary and secondary ignition coil windings using a multimeter.

*You'll need the resistance specifications for your specific coil in order to perform this test. Consult your service manual for this information. The figures given below are for the standard VW coil, PN 211 905 115 D (green label).

The primary winding of your ignition coil is the first to receive voltage from the battery. Find the resistance specifications for your car's primary coil winding in your repair manual. Then using a multimeter, place the leads on the smaller, outside poles if you have a traditional round coil, or on the indicated poles if you have a newer enclosed unit. If the reading is within the range indicated in your manual, your primary winding is ok and you can go on to the secondary test. If it is even a little out of spec, the coil should be replaced.

The secondary winding of your ignition coil delivers the spark to the distributor to be sent to the spark plugs. If it's bad, you'll get a weak spark or no spark at all.

To test the coil's secondary winding, attach the test probes to the outer 12V pole and the centre pole (where the main wire goes to the distributor). Determine the resistance and check to see if it's within the range indicated in your repair manual. If it is, your coil is up to the task. If it's even slightly out of range, your coil should be replaced.

VW T3 coil;

If an ignition coil fails completely, it will make no spark at all. But if it is performing below par, it can make a weak spark that can cause the van to run badly.

I once tested three used VW coils in search of a good one. All would make the engine run, but none of them were up to spec. The purchase of a new coil made a noticeable difference.

The primary winding of the ignition coil is the first to receive voltage from the battery when the ignition switch is turned on, via terminal 15 (+).

Using a multimeter, place the probes on the small outside wires (terminals 15(+) and 1(-). If the primary resistance between the two is 0.5 to 0.8Ω, the primary winding is ok and you can go on to the secondary test. If it is out of spec, replace the coil with the spare that you always carry under the seat.

The secondary winding of the ignition coil delivers the spark to the distributor to be sent to the spark plugs. If it's bad, you'll get a weak spark or no spark at all.

To test the secondary winding, attach test probes to terminal 15+ and the centre pole (where the thick wire goes to the distributor). The resistance should be 2.4 to 3.5 kΩ. If it is out of range, toss the coil.

If ignition coil is overheating and breaking down, causing misfiring and lack of power, test the ignition switching function of the control unit (the black box under the rear seat, otherwise known as the ECU).

Connect the multimeter probes to terminals 15 (+) and 1 (-) on the ignition coil.

Disconnect Hall Sender plug on distributor.

Have an assistant switch the ignition ON.

Ground the centre wire of hall sender plug for approximately 3 seconds. The displayed voltage must increase briefly to approximately 4.5 volts.

If not, replace control unit. (See Bentley manual 28.44).

(My ECU failed this test – the symptoms were misfiring and backfiring after driving for over 45 minutes. It was more noticeable when travelling uphill at highway speeds. The coil was too hot to hold. I replaced the ECU and it solved the problem.)

Engine earths; clean the connections on the braided wire between the engine and the bodywork with emery paper and a wire brush. According to an NRMA survey, poor earths are the most common cause of engine breakdowns. Also check that the earth connection on the battery is clean.

Check all electrical connections, check wires for cracked or melted insulation or broken wires or connections which can cause an intermittent problem. The fragile connector on the hall sender is often damaged.

Check relays and connections in the engine compartment. Always carry spare relays and replace if in doubt.

Ignition leads; test leads for continuity and damage. This is the first test that should be run if an engine is running rough. Some brand new leads will run badly straight out of the box (JustKampers). Check the connections to the coil, distributor cap, and spark-plug connectors. Each connector has some built-in resistance to reduce radio interference, but the leads themselves are copper and should have no resistance at all.

SILICONE LEADS ARE NOT RECCOMENDED because they have a built-in resistance. As the VW has two short leads and two long leads, the longer leads will deliver less voltage to those two spark plugs which will result in rough running.

Suppressor plug lead to distributor cap connectors should have resistance of approximately 1,000 ohms (1 kΩ ) with an acceptable range of 0.6 to 1.4 kΩ

Spark plug connectors should have a resistance of 4 to 6 kΩ. Check that they are dry and undamaged and tightly connected to the ignition leads.

Therefore, the King Lead to the coil, with connectors intact, should have a total resistance of 2 kΩ

Rotor 0.6-1.4 kΩ. Check for damage. Always carry a spare and replace if in doubt.

Distributor cap; check for cracks and carbon tracking, and inspect the spring-loaded graphite centre-post as it may wear or break. Always carry a spare and replace if in doubt.

Spark Plugs; Check that the correct spark plugs are fitted, and inspect the condition of the ceramic insulator, the integrity of the electrodes, and the spark plug gaps.

It is best to check all of these items in the comfort of your shed at least once a year (or before any major expedition) along with changing oils, fluids and filters, checking all the sensors and adjustments as per the Bentley manual, and lubricating everything that moves.

It is fun and educational to remove the engine lid and run the engine on a dark night. Stray sparks, luminescence and lightning bolts can be very illuminating.

If an ignition coil fails completely, it will make no spark at all. But if it is performing below par, it can make a weak spark that can cause the van to run badly.

Symptoms can include partial loss of power, erratic idle, stumble and miss on acceleration from low revs, flat spots, missing under load, and cutting out. Symptoms may only present themselves (or get worse) as the engine heats up (and the coil is too hot to touch). If the engine stops, or fails to start when hot, it may restart after the coil has cooled down.

Although a coil passes all tests with the ohm-meter it can still deteriorate when hot, due to degradation of internal insulation.

If planning a desert expedition, fit a new coil and carry the old one for a spare.

Problems with a weak coil will be exacerbated by poor maintenance of other ignition components such as faulty or incorrect spark plugs, excessive spark plug gaps, faulty plug leads or connectors, or loose or dirty electrical connections. Broken wires are not always obvious, causing intermittent faults. Old and cracked distributor caps and rotor buttons, and poor earth connections from the engine to the bodywork can be problematic. A combination of any or all of theses conditions can contribute to the early demise of a coil.

I once tested three used VW coils in search of a good one. All would make the engine run, but none of them were up to spec. The purchase of a new coil made a noticeable difference.

The primary winding of the ignition coil is the first to receive voltage from the battery when the ignition switch is turned on, via terminal 15 (+).

Using a multimeter, place the probes on the small outside wires (terminals 15(+) and 1(-). If the primary resistance between the two is 0.5 to 0.8Ω, the primary winding is ok and you can go on to the secondary test. If it is out of spec, replace the coil with the spare that you always carry under the seat.

The secondary winding of the ignition coil delivers the spark to the distributor to be sent to the spark plugs. If it's bad, you'll get a weak spark or no spark at all.

To test the secondary winding, attach test probes to terminal 15+ and the centre pole (where the thick wire goes to the distributor). The resistance should be 2.4 to 3.5 kΩ. If it is out of range, toss the coil.

If ignition coil is overheating and breaking down, causing misfiring and lack of power, test the ignition switching function of the control unit (the black box under the rear seat, otherwise known as the ECU).

To test the ECU; (See Bentley manual 28.44).

Connect the multimeter probes to terminals 15 (+) and 1 (-) on the ignition coil.

Disconnect Hall Sender plug on distributor.

Have an assistant switch the ignition ON.

Ground the centre wire of hall sender plug for approximately 3 seconds. The displayed voltage must increase briefly to approximately 4.5 volts.

If not, replace control unit.

(My ECU failed this test – the symptoms were misfiring and backfiring after driving for over 45 minutes. It was more noticeable when travelling uphill at highway speeds. The coil was too hot to hold. I replaced the ECU and it solved the problem.)

Other things to check;

Engine earths; clean the connections on the braided wire between the engine and the bodywork with emery paper and a wire brush. According to an NRMA survey, poor earths are the most common cause of engine breakdowns. Also check that the earth connection on the battery is clean. I generally add another earth wire to the cylinder head on the driver’s side, as it lacks a good track to earth due to the fact it is insulated by gaskets and sealant from the rest of the engine.

Check all electrical connections, check wires for cracked or melted insulation, broken wires or connections which can cause an intermittent problem. The fragile connector on the hall sender is often damaged.

Check relays and connections in the engine compartment. Always carry spare relays and replace if in doubt.

Ignition leads; test leads for continuity and damage.

Suppressor plug lead to distributor cap connectors; 0.6 to 1.4 kΩ

Spark plug connectors; 4 to 6 kΩ. Check that they are dry and undamaged and tightly connected to the ignition leads.

Rotor; 0.6-1.4 kΩ. Check for damage. Always carry a spare and replace if in doubt.

Distributor cap; check for cracks and carbon tracking, and inspect the spring-loaded graphite centre-post as it may wear or break. Always carry a spare and replace if in doubt.

Spark Plugs; Check that the correct spark plugs are fitted, and inspect the condition of the ceramic insulator, the integrity of the electrodes, and the spark plug gaps. Bosch W7CC or Beru 14-7-CU are recommended.

It is best to check all of these items in the comfort of your shed at least once a year (or before an expedition) along with changing oils, fluids and filters, checking all the sensors and adjustments as per the Bentley manual, and lubricating everything that moves.

It is educational to remove the engine lid and run the engine on a dark night. Stray sparks, luminescence and lightning bolts can be very illuminating.

Searching for a substitute coil;

A canister coil for suppressed electronic ignition systems is used. It is not the same as that used on the VW air-cooled engines with points ignition. It has a female king-post with a male prong for 6mm high-tension lead to the distributor. (Some non-genuine coils will accept a 7mm HT lead. The metal ‘wings’ on the HT end-plug needs to be bent outward slightly for a good fit).

The original coil was manufactured by Bosch and carried VW part number 211 905 115D, and carried a green label. They were fitted to all VW DJ & MV transporters from 1984-92. Versions of this coil are still readily available from around $35 - $50[i] from most VW parts suppliers. (Some early models had the 211 905 115 B coil with .52Ω to .76Ω primary and 2.4Ω to 3.5Ω secondary resistance)

The Bosch p/n was 0221 122 350, (now discontinued and replaced with 0221 122 349). I priced one of the latter at Autobarn for $160.[ii] Discussion on other websites indicates that Bosch components are rarely made in Germany nowadays. The quality of the Spanish and Mexican units are not as good as the German, but far superior to the cheap Chinese clones. Google “bosch ignition coil 0221 122 349.” I found them on Ebay for $106 to $120 in July 2016 and purchased one in June 2017 for $120 from Volkspares, Bungendore. Nick told me that the retail price was $162.50.

If searching for parts from a wrecking yard, check out VW Golf, Passat, Polo and Jetta models of similar vintage. They can also be found on various Audi 80/90/100, BMW 316, 318 & 525, Saab 900, Holden Calibra, and Volvo 240, 740, 760 & 940 models in the same era.

Some engines (primarily imports with DF, DG, SP and DJ prefix) were fitted with a coil with a grey label – 191 905 115 A/B/C with .6Ω to .8Ω primary and 6.9Ω to 8.5Ω secondary resistance)

Other brands claim to be an identical replacement;[iii]

Fuel Miser CC501 ($46 - 110)[iv] commonly available in Australian stores.

RAE C285 commonly available in Australian stores.

Beru ZS123 or ZS 124 (both listed for all VW T3 1.9 & 2.1 1984-91).

NGK U180 48343

IGC 137 (around $100[v])

Quinton-Hazell (p/n not known. Given bad reports on Syncro site).

Topran 103 240 (sold through some outlets as 211 905 115D) $49[vi]

I have tried the Topran, and it let me down on the first trip – luckily I still had the original under the seat!

A search of the internet reveals other alternatives; Automega, Bremi (11906 & 11822), BBT (ICO 3105), Beru (0040100124), Bougicord (155084), Facet (96206), Era (880030), JP (905210001), Mapco, Pex, Quinton Hazell, Standard, Vemo (V10700072 & V10700052), and several Chinese manufacturers – Frey, Microne, Hongsheng and Jitai.



[i] JK $35 May 2016.

[ii] May 2016. Also available on the usual US, UK and Euro websites.

[iii] Please double-check before ordering.

[iv] Repco $46, Auto One $110, May 2016

[v] eBay

[vi] VWHeritage Australia May 2016. (I fitted one in April, it failed on the first long trip).

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