That was in the back originally.
Phill
>
> G'day,
>
> over here the most wanted Merc rims are 7x15ET25 that came off W126's
> and have the number 6222A - but as i said... over here, people beat
> each other's heads for these :) See attachment regarding load/speed...
>
> Ciao,
>
> Martin
>
>
>
>
> On 25.02.2009, at 10:26, tonyricketts99 wrote:
>
> > Wanted two 15inch steel wheels 6J H2 ET49 124 400 0602 New or S/H
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Martin Henning, DM5OY
> martin@...
> http://log.tigerbus.de
>
----- Original Message -----From: KenSent: Friday, February 27, 2009 7:25 PMSubject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Wanted two 15inch steel wheels
Gday Barry,
Concerning the ability to successfully fit a 215 75 15" wheel into the
Oz type stock wheel carrier underneath (NOT USA round clamshell), I
covered this topic here on a previous occasion, please refer to post
#3791 for the details, confirming the above size wheel in BFG A/T fits.
Clearly the only compromise is that it has to be deflated. We all carry
a tyre pump as a matter of course ... yes? Functionally, the spare
should be where it was designed to be, clearly a rear tyre carrier
upsets the natural balance over both axles, tends to be an undesired
high expense item and gets in the way a lot ... better to be without it
altogether in my view, unless you want to carry 2 spares.
Cheers.
Ken
--- In Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com, "Barry & Di Pickering"
<dbpickering@ ...> wrote:
>
> Hi Ken
>
> I have also fitted the Merc rims and have put BF Goodrich A/T tyres.
These tyres are wider than the original VW and I have had problems when
loading the spare tyre. Do you know if your spare tyre cradle has been
extended to cope with the wider tyre?
>
> Regards Barry
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Ken
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 9:00 AM
> Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australi a] Re: Wanted two 15inch steel wheels
>
>
>
> Gday Les, Tony and All,
>
> This is interesting.
>
> Just so happens a previous owner of my syncro back in 1992 fitted a
set
> of five Mercedes 124 400 0602 6Jx15H2 ET49 steel rims.
>
> They have been used ever since that year by subsequent owners,
including
> myself, they still are undamaged. Fully laden, my Trakka syncro is in
> excess of 2.5 tons.
>
> I compared the lug nuts that the previous owner had made for these
rims
> as opposed to the stock VW lug nuts and in the end, I decided the VW
lug
> nuts were a better fit and stronger. No doubt that should be looked at
> on a case by case basis.
>
> Some time ago Les, you gave me the method for measuring the ET, which
I
> did for these Merc rims stamped ET49. The result I got was ET31.
>
> I can confirm Les's methodology is correct because I also measured the
> original syncro 14" steel rims and came up with ET30.
>
> As I have said previously, when offroad during suspension travel on
> either lock, the 15" Goodyear Wrangler AT/R tyres rub and wear away
the
> black plastic trim at the rear of the wheel arch, I tend to think this
> has something to do with the fact these tyres are larger in diameter
> (706mm worn) than for example 15" BFG A/T tyres (700mm new), which I
> will be installing later and they should reduce or eliminate this
> rubbing. Other than the above minor quibble, with these Mercedes rims
> marked ET49, I have had no running problems elsewhere at all.
>
> Begs the question, as these 15" Merc rims are stamped ET49, how come
> they measure ET31?
>
> Cheers.
>
> Ken
>
> --- In Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com, "Les Harris"
> leslieharris@ wrote:
> >
> > Tony.
> >
> > ET 49 is a very, very long way off the correct offset. Why in the
> world do you want wheels that are so far off the design specs?
> >
> > And did you receive the CD's that I sent?
> >
> > Les
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: tonyricketts99
> > To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 8:26 PM
> > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australi a] Wanted two 15inch steel wheels
> >
> >
> > Wanted two 15inch steel wheels 6J H2 ET49 124 400 0602 New or S/H
> >
>
>maybe I was looking in the wrong place.
> Hi Ken
>
> I found a post # 3791 but that was from Andrew, I'm new at all this
>real concern is that it may be putting pressure on the gear shaft
> I deflate my BF Goodrich A/T but it is still a battle to get it in. My
>spare in but I can't see if the tyre is pushing on the shaft between the
> So yes with deflating the tyre and the aid of a jack I can force the
>
> Regards Barry
>
--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Ken" <unclekenz@...> wrote:
>
>
> Gday Barry,
>
> Well 3791 works for me .... all I can do is repost it below ok.
>
> Also I've added 3 pics in the PHOTOS section showing the extra
grinding
> I did to the existing cutouts, FYI.
>
> I now have a 15" BFG A/T tyre on a Merc rim so I'll double check your
> concern about clearance off the gear shaft. I don't have to use a jack
> to force the clamshell back into place, I agree it is a tighter fit
> (naturally) and you just have to shift the tyre sideways or fore and
aft
> to get the optimum position ... practice makes perfect.
>
> UPDATE:
>
> Given all the interest and posts on this topic, I decided to get down
> and dirty today (it was raining outside anyway) and eyeball the spare
> wheel holder vicinity. As they say, if you want a job done properly,
do
> it yourself. So now it seems to me, most of the info I've previously
> "gleaned" online is in fact a load of old cobblers.
>
> What I'm about to say may not be as momentous as when Les revealed
here
> recently about the availability of an Oz manufactured and sourced ring
> and pinion gear but heh ... I reckon it's up there somewhere!
>
> Firstly, let me be clear on this. I'm referring to the Australian
> square-ish clamshell/skidplate, not the lightweight USA circular
> clamshell.
>
> So what I'm saying here is that .... yes, merely with the aid of a
100mm
> electric grinder and several hours hard yakka, some but not all 15"
> deflated tyres on rims WILL fit in the clamshell. This is with no
> modifications nor adjustments to it nor clearance issues with the
> steering rod nor loss of approach angle. All good, as long as you've
> selected the right profile 15" tyre that will fit or perhaps even a
> lower profile tyre on a 16" rim.
>
> Good news I think for syncro owners generally, not good news for
> manufacturers and retailers of rear wheel carriers nor those who've
> already paid top dollars buying one, especially from overseas. Then
> again, if you do have a rear wheel carrier, means now there is the
> option to carry a second matching spare wheel or tyre for outback
> touring.
>
> The two critical criteria for this to work is the overall diameter and
> width of the deflated tyre. Diameter size determines whether or not
the
> tyre can fit between the two fore/aft structural beams which, if you
> take a look, have already been factory trimmed to allow room for the
> tyre diameter. This is where I used the grinder to trim off more
> material and on a more even curve, this is what's needed for this
> project to be successful. More on that later. Now the width of the
tyre
> determines whether or not it can actually fit in the storage space
> height and crucially, achieve clearance off the steering rod.
>
> So now to the 3 tyres tested. For those interested, if your tyre isn't
> mentioned here, you'll need to check your own to see if you are "in
with
> a chance" of similar success. May I suggest you report back here your
> findings for the benefit of us all.
>
> Best fit (easiest) was BF Goodrich All-Terrain T/A LT215/75 R15. This
> should please lots of Oz syncro owners.
>
> Next best fit (larger diameter but still ok) was Dunlop Adventurer
> GR78-15LT (8 ply). Probably rare these days.
>
> Failed to fit (my present tyres) was Goodyear Wrangler AT/R 215/75
R15.
> Tyre is too wide to clear steering rod.
>
> For those wanting to check their tyre dimensions first, lay the tyre
> flat on a level surface, a rough rule of thumb guide for success would
> be a deflated tyre diameter no more than 704mm and not more than 208mm
> overall width to clear the steering rod. Expect that different brand
> tyres have different profiles in the 215 75 15 size, so at the end of
> the day, the real acid test after checking the tyre is to then eyeball
> the project and depending what you decide, tackle the grinding, refit
> the tyre a few times as you go to see how things are progressing until
> you are satisfied with the fit.
>
> A tip is, after each time you do some more grinding and you then want
to
> check progress, reinsert the tyre, juggle it around for best fit, push
> the clamshell up and see if you can get the clamshell onto the catch.
If
> so, there is room to grab the steering rod on the side and juggle it
> back and forth to check for clearance. If it's clear, screw the bolt
> home in stages, check a few times to see if clearance is still ok. If
> you find there is a small amount of drag on the steering rod you think
> you can live with, just apply a smear of rubber grease to the steering
> rod where the tyre sidewall is touching and check again. A case of
suck
> it and see. If you decide their is some tyre drag but not a lot, try
> lowering the clamshell on the fixing bolt using a few steel packing
> washers, maybe 5-10 mm total will do, this may be enough to get
> clearance. In which case, you should also add equivalent packing to
the
> clamshells left and right bump upstands.
>
> If all else fails, plan to buy a set of 15" BFG All Terrains or
> equivalents.
>
> To get an idea of the area I'm referring to that needs additional
> grinding, go to the photos that Bill has posted today and look for the
> photo called "spare wheel carrier modifications t3 004". On the inside
> of the structural beam, you can see where the factory shaping has been
> done to accommodate the tyre diameter. That shaping is what needs
> grinding back further on both beams and also removing any daggy steel
> bits intruding. Finally, check for and round off any sharp metal edges
> and paint the exposed bare steel with protective paint. I use POR 15,
> the best.
>
> I stress, for the relatively small amount of additional grinding
> involved, this in no way compromises the structural integrity of the
> beams.
>
> Hope this is of some assistance. Any queries, please fire away.
>
> Cheers.
>
> Ken
>
> --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Barry & Di Pickering"
> dbpickering@ wrote:
> >
> > Hi Ken
> >
> > I found a post # 3791 but that was from Andrew, I'm new at all this
> maybe I was looking in the wrong place.
> >
> > I deflate my BF Goodrich A/T but it is still a battle to get it in.
My
> real concern is that it may be putting pressure on the gear shaft
> running back to the gearbox. (as my gearbox died not long after I got
> the new wheels and tyres)
> >
> > So yes with deflating the tyre and the aid of a jack I can force the
> spare in but I can't see if the tyre is pushing on the shaft between
the
> gear lever and the gearbox.
> >
> > Regards Barry
> >
>