weights of 15" alloys

1
Hi guys,

The new gearbox I bought from the uk is an AVU with a ratio of 6.17 so around 10% lower geared than the 6p box and I'd factored this in as I wanted to put 15" tires on and ultimately bring gearing as similar to stock as I can again. What type of 15" rims are people here running on their syncros. Would prefer to buy in oz than from overseas. I know someone from kombi club has 15" TKS shadows on his syncro but not sure on their load rating/ET. Anybody run larger than 215/75/15. would give a tyre height of 70cms approx? Anyone gone to the max of 74-75cms?

cheers,

erik
2
BFG A/T 215/75X15 is 70.9cms.

The stock Australia delivered Michelin 205x14C is 481 rev/km.
BFG A/T 215/75X15 is 464 rev/km

Is this the information that you want?

Phill



> Erik Hoflinger <erikhoeflinger@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi guys,
>
> The new gearbox I bought from the uk is an AVU with a ratio of 6.17 so
> around 10% lower geared than the 6p box and I'd factored this in as I
> wanted to put 15" tires on and ultimately bring gearing as similar to
> stock as I can again. What type of 15" rims are people here running on
> their syncros. Would prefer to buy in oz than from overseas. I know
> someone from kombi club has 15" TKS shadows on his syncro but not sure
> on their load rating/ET. Anybody run larger than 215/75/15. would give a
> tyre height of 70cms approx? Anyone gone to the max of 74-75cms?
>
> cheers,
>
> erik
3
yeah thanks that'll help. Should have probably changed the heading of my post to tire measurements and 15" wheels but too late now. I'm also curious where people are sourcing their 15" wheels from and how large people have gone without tires scrubbing.Cheers
4
--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Erik Hoflinger" <erikhoeflinger@...> wrote:
>
> yeah thanks that'll help. Should have probably changed the heading of my post to tire measurements and 15" wheels but too late now. I'm also curious where people are sourcing their 15" wheels from and how large people have gone without tires scrubbing.Cheers
>Hi erik, have run 235 75 15's on 15 X6 et 30 wheels with only mod being cutting back behind the little plastic flared bit behind the front wheel.Am currently running 235 70 16s on 16x7 et 25 alloy rims rated at 875 kgs made by performance wheels in south aus without any further mods.Both these sizes are about 74cm diameter and you end up with about 5-7 mm clearance to the rear trailing arm.
5
Hi Erik
 
What are you going to do about the front diff. ore did you get both diffs.
Alf
 
From: Erik Hoflinger <erikhoeflinger@hotmail.com>
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, 22 March, 2009 12:39:43 PM
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] weights of 15" alloys

Hi guys,

The new gearbox I bought from the uk is an AVU with a ratio of 6.17 so around 10% lower geared than the 6p box and I'd factored this in as I wanted to put 15" tires on and ultimately bring gearing as similar to stock as I can again. What type of 15" rims are people here running on their syncros. Would prefer to buy in oz than from overseas. I know someone from kombi club has 15" TKS shadows on his syncro but not sure on their load rating/ET. Anybody run larger than 215/75/15. would give a tyre height of 70cms approx? Anyone gone to the max of 74-75cms?

cheers,

erik


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Phill,

Concerning the diameter dimension you specify below, I wonder if BFG has
changed the tyre construction to arrive at a smaller diameter or am I
talking about a different model BFG tyre than you?

To be precise, I have 5 new BFG All-Terrain T/A LT 215 75 R15 100/97S
tyres waiting to go on the syncro. Only one so far is on a Merc 15" rim,
hence it's inflatable.

Diameter measurement of an unmounted tyre is 699mm (at middle of tyre
tread). If the measurement was taken at the tread shoulder, it would be
less than that.

Diameter measurement of an inflated tyre @ 40psi is 700mm.

It's not possible for me to misread my measurements to the tune of 9mm,
so it begs the question above.

For this BFG 700mm diameter size tyre, there are positives and
negatives.

It fits (as previously described in my earlier posts on this) underneath
the van uninflated. In fact, I'm now at the next stage of experimenting
and have today successfully fitted it underneath inflated to 40psi. I
intend monitoring this to see how things go over time, but initial tests
suggest a positive outcome.

I no longer need my rear tyre carrier, so that gets rid of some weight,
transfers the weight of the spare wheel to the front where it belongs
and I get easy access via my rear door now .... all good.

Only downside is my existing Goodyear Wrangler AT/R 215 75 R15 offer
more clearance due to their larger diameter, but these won't fit
underneath at the front so I have to carry the spare on the rear tyre
rack.

Taking all plusses and minuses into account, the BFG's offer me the best
configuration. I just have to live with a slightly smaller clearance.

Cheers.

Ken


--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, plander@... wrote:
>
> BFG A/T 215/75X15 is 70.9cms.
>
> The stock Australia delivered Michelin 205x14C is 481 rev/km.
> BFG A/T 215/75X15 is 464 rev/km
>
> Is this the information that you want?
>
> Phill
>
>
>
> > Erik Hoflinger erikhoeflinger@... wrote:
> >
> > Hi guys,
> >
> > The new gearbox I bought from the uk is an AVU with a ratio of 6.17
so
> > around 10% lower geared than the 6p box and I'd factored this in as
I
> > wanted to put 15" tires on and ultimately bring gearing as similar
to
> > stock as I can again. What type of 15" rims are people here running
on
> > their syncros. Would prefer to buy in oz than from overseas. I know
> > someone from kombi club has 15" TKS shadows on his syncro but not
sure
> > on their load rating/ET. Anybody run larger than 215/75/15. would
give a
> > tyre height of 70cms approx? Anyone gone to the max of 74-75cms?
> >
> > cheers,
> >
> > erik
>
7
Ken,
 
The inflated but free tyre diameter doesn't tell the correct story.  The revolutions per mile/km are derived from the SLR (static loaded radius) in the simple instance and DLR (dynamic loaded radius) in the more complicated calculations.  For our purposes, the SLR is amply good. 
 
The SLR is most easily calculated by putting a mark on the sidewall of the (correctly inflated) tyre, rolling the vehicle forwards (and this means driving it) by ten revolutions of the marked tyre.  Measure the distance, divide by ten to get the circumference, divide by Pi (3.1416) to get the diameter.  This gives an accurate enough figure to calculate gearing, etc.  The inflated but free diameter is relevant when you are trying to fit a larger than original tyre into the original wheel carrier.
 
Les
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Ken
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 3:44 PM
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Tyre sizes


Phill,

Concerning the diameter dimension you specify below, I wonder if BFG has
changed the tyre construction to arrive at a smaller diameter or am I
talking about a different model BFG tyre than you?

To be precise, I have 5 new BFG All-Terrain T/A LT 215 75 R15 100/97S
tyres waiting to go on the syncro. Only one so far is on a Merc 15" rim,
hence it's inflatable.

Diameter measurement of an unmounted tyre is 699mm (at middle of tyre
tread). If the measurement was taken at the tread shoulder, it would be
less than that.

Diameter measurement of an inflated tyre @ 40psi is 700mm.

It's not possible for me to misread my measurements to the tune of 9mm,
so it begs the question above.


Cheers.

Ken

.

8
Ken
I would say Phil got that 709mm diameter of the BFG 215/75 R15 from the BFG brochure, because that is what it says on the one I have. Their web site doesn't give a diameter any more.

Your Goodyear Wranglers are 215R15 not 215/75R15 that is why they are bigger, profile is probably is 80 or so.

Have fun Ken

Bruce




On 27/03/2009, at 2:44 PM, Ken wrote:


Phill,

Concerning the diameter dimension you specify below, I wonder if BFG has
changed the tyre construction to arrive at a smaller diameter or am I
talking about a different model BFG tyre than you?

To be precise, I have 5 new BFG All-Terrain T/A LT 215 75 R15 100/97S
tyres waiting to go on the syncro. Only one so far is on a Merc 15" rim,
hence it's inflatable.

Diameter measurement of an unmounted tyre is 699mm (at middle of tyre
tread). If the measurement was taken at the tread shoulder, it would be
less than that.

Diameter measurement of an inflated tyre @ 40psi is 700mm.

It's not possible for me to misread my measurements to the tune of 9mm,
so it begs the question above.

For this BFG 700mm diameter size tyre, there are positives and
negatives.

It fits (as previously described in my earlier posts on this) underneath
the van uninflated. In fact, I'm now at the next stage of experimenting
and have today successfully fitted it underneath inflated to 40psi. I
intend monitoring this to see how things go over time, but initial tests
suggest a positive outcome.

I no longer need my rear tyre carrier, so that gets rid of some weight,
transfers the weight of the spare wheel to the front where it belongs
and I get easy access via my rear door now .... all good.

Only downside is my existing Goodyear Wrangler AT/R 215 75 R15 offer
more clearance due to their larger diameter, but these won't fit
underneath at the front so I have to carry the spare on the rear tyre
rack.

Taking all plusses and minuses into account, the BFG's offer me the best
configuration. I just have to live with a slightly smaller clearance.

Cheers.

Ken

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com, plander@... wrote:
>
> BFG A/T 215/75X15 is 70.9cms.
>
> The stock Australia delivered Michelin 205x14C is 481 rev/km.
> BFG A/T 215/75X15 is 464 rev/km
>
> Is this the information that you want?
>
> Phill
>
>
>
> > Erik Hoflinger erikhoeflinger@ ... wrote:
> >
> > Hi guys,
> >
> > The new gearbox I bought from the uk is an AVU with a ratio of 6.17
so
> > around 10% lower geared than the 6p box and I'd factored this in as
I
> > wanted to put 15" tires on and ultimately bring gearing as similar
to
> > stock as I can again. What type of 15" rims are people here running
on
> > their syncros. Would prefer to buy in oz than from overseas. I know
> > someone from kombi club has 15" TKS shadows on his syncro but not
sure
> > on their load rating/ET. Anybody run larger than 215/75/15. would
give a
> > tyre height of 70cms approx? Anyone gone to the max of 74-75cms?
> >
> > cheers,
> >
> > erik
>


9
Gday Bruce,

mmmmmm .... you've been doing your homework proper eh ... haha

the other BFG benefit I'm looking forward to is less or perhaps even no
front tyre scrubbing on the wheel arch plastic trims when offroad on a
lock ... due to its smaller diameter. Well time in due course will
reveal all.

Cheers.

Ken


--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, Alison & Bruce Black
<royalb@...> wrote:
>
> Ken
> I would say Phil got that 709mm diameter of the BFG 215/75 R15
> from the BFG brochure, because that is what it says on the one I
> have. Their web site doesn't give a diameter any more.
>
> Your Goodyear Wranglers are 215R15 not 215/75R15 that is why they are
> bigger, profile is probably is 80 or so.
>
> Have fun Ken
>
> Bruce
>
>
>
>
> On 27/03/2009, at 2:44 PM, Ken wrote:
>
> >
> > Phill,
> >
> > Concerning the diameter dimension you specify below, I wonder if
> > BFG has
> > changed the tyre construction to arrive at a smaller diameter or am
I
> > talking about a different model BFG tyre than you?
> >
> > To be precise, I have 5 new BFG All-Terrain T/A LT 215 75 R15
100/97S
> > tyres waiting to go on the syncro. Only one so far is on a Merc 15"
> > rim,
> > hence it's inflatable.
> >
> > Diameter measurement of an unmounted tyre is 699mm (at middle of
tyre
> > tread). If the measurement was taken at the tread shoulder, it
> > would be
> > less than that.
> >
> > Diameter measurement of an inflated tyre @ 40psi is 700mm.
> >
> > It's not possible for me to misread my measurements to the tune of
> > 9mm,
> > so it begs the question above.
> >
> > For this BFG 700mm diameter size tyre, there are positives and
> > negatives.
> >
> > It fits (as previously described in my earlier posts on this)
> > underneath
> > the van uninflated. In fact, I'm now at the next stage of
> > experimenting
> > and have today successfully fitted it underneath inflated to 40psi.
I
> > intend monitoring this to see how things go over time, but initial
> > tests
> > suggest a positive outcome.
> >
> > I no longer need my rear tyre carrier, so that gets rid of some
> > weight,
> > transfers the weight of the spare wheel to the front where it
belongs
> > and I get easy access via my rear door now .... all good.
> >
> > Only downside is my existing Goodyear Wrangler AT/R 215 75 R15 offer
> > more clearance due to their larger diameter, but these won't fit
> > underneath at the front so I have to carry the spare on the rear
tyre
> > rack.
> >
> > Taking all plusses and minuses into account, the BFG's offer me the
> > best
> > configuration. I just have to live with a slightly smaller
clearance.
> >
> > Cheers.
> >
> > Ken
> >
> > --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, plander@ wrote:
> > >
> > > BFG A/T 215/75X15 is 70.9cms.
> > >
> > > The stock Australia delivered Michelin 205x14C is 481 rev/km.
> > > BFG A/T 215/75X15 is 464 rev/km
> > >
> > > Is this the information that you want?
> > >
> > > Phill
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > Erik Hoflinger erikhoeflinger@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi guys,
> > > >
> > > > The new gearbox I bought from the uk is an AVU with a ratio of
> > 6.17
> > so
> > > > around 10% lower geared than the 6p box and I'd factored this
> > in as
> > I
> > > > wanted to put 15" tires on and ultimately bring gearing as
similar
> > to
> > > > stock as I can again. What type of 15" rims are people here
> > running
> > on
> > > > their syncros. Would prefer to buy in oz than from overseas. I
> > know
> > > > someone from kombi club has 15" TKS shadows on his syncro but
not
> > sure
> > > > on their load rating/ET. Anybody run larger than 215/75/15.
would
> > give a
> > > > tyre height of 70cms approx? Anyone gone to the max of 74-75cms?
> > > >
> > > > cheers,
> > > >
> > > > erik
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
10
Ken,
I have a chart with a few tyre specifications which was done around 18 years ago. Some of the data was done by my measurements (chalk on tyre and wife running beside van) and other stuff from manufacturers specs. I am guessng that the diameter would be from the manufacturer. (Probably an error in their metric conversion.)

Phill


> Ken <unclekenz@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> Phill,
>
> Concerning the diameter dimension you specify below, I wonder if BFG has
> changed the tyre construction to arrive at a smaller diameter or am I
> talking about a different model BFG tyre than you?
>
> To be precise, I have 5 new BFG All-Terrain T/A LT 215 75 R15 100/97S
> tyres waiting to go on the syncro. Only one so far is on a Merc 15" rim,
> hence it's inflatable.
>
> Diameter measurement of an unmounted tyre is 699mm (at middle of tyre
> tread). If the measurement was taken at the tread shoulder, it would be
> less than that.
>
> Diameter measurement of an inflated tyre @ 40psi is 700mm.
>
> It's not possible for me to misread my measurements to the tune of 9mm,
> so it begs the question above.
>
> For this BFG 700mm diameter size tyre, there are positives and
> negatives.
>
> It fits (as previously described in my earlier posts on this) underneath
> the van uninflated. In fact, I'm now at the next stage of experimenting
> and have today successfully fitted it underneath inflated to 40psi. I
> intend monitoring this to see how things go over time, but initial tests
> suggest a positive outcome.
>
> I no longer need my rear tyre carrier, so that gets rid of some weight,
> transfers the weight of the spare wheel to the front where it belongs
> and I get easy access via my rear door now .... all good.
>
> Only downside is my existing Goodyear Wrangler AT/R 215 75 R15 offer
> more clearance due to their larger diameter, but these won't fit
> underneath at the front so I have to carry the spare on the rear tyre
> rack.
>
> Taking all plusses and minuses into account, the BFG's offer me the best
> configuration. I just have to live with a slightly smaller clearance.
>
> Cheers.
>
> Ken
>
>
> --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, plander@... wrote:
> >
> > BFG A/T 215/75X15 is 70.9cms.
> >
> > The stock Australia delivered Michelin 205x14C is 481 rev/km.
> > BFG A/T 215/75X15 is 464 rev/km
> >
> > Is this the information that you want?
> >
> > Phill
> >
> >
> >
> > > Erik Hoflinger erikhoeflinger@... wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi guys,
> > >
> > > The new gearbox I bought from the uk is an AVU with a ratio of 6.17
> so
> > > around 10% lower geared than the 6p box and I'd factored this in as
> I
> > > wanted to put 15" tires on and ultimately bring gearing as similar
> to
> > > stock as I can again. What type of 15" rims are people here running
> on
> > > their syncros. Would prefer to buy in oz than from overseas. I know
> > > someone from kombi club has 15" TKS shadows on his syncro but not
> sure
> > > on their load rating/ET. Anybody run larger than 215/75/15. would
> give a
> > > tyre height of 70cms approx? Anyone gone to the max of 74-75cms?
> > >
> > > cheers,
> > >
> > > erik
> >
11
Ken,
It depends on your wheel size and offset. With 15x7 ET24 they will rub. With 15x6 and standard offset, they do not rub.

What are yours?

Phill



> Ken <unclekenz@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> Gday Bruce,
>
> mmmmmm .... you've been doing your homework proper eh ... haha
>
> the other BFG benefit I'm looking forward to is less or perhaps even no
> front tyre scrubbing on the wheel arch plastic trims when offroad on a
> lock ... due to its smaller diameter. Well time in due course will
> reveal all.
>
> Cheers.
>
> Ken
>
>
> --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, Alison & Bruce Black
> <royalb@...> wrote:
> >
> > Ken
> > I would say Phil got that 709mm diameter of the BFG 215/75 R15
> > from the BFG brochure, because that is what it says on the one I
> > have. Their web site doesn't give a diameter any more.
> >
> > Your Goodyear Wranglers are 215R15 not 215/75R15 that is why they are
> > bigger, profile is probably is 80 or so.
> >
> > Have fun Ken
> >
> > Bruce
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 27/03/2009, at 2:44 PM, Ken wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Phill,
> > >
> > > Concerning the diameter dimension you specify below, I wonder if
> > > BFG has
> > > changed the tyre construction to arrive at a smaller diameter or am
> I
> > > talking about a different model BFG tyre than you?
> > >
> > > To be precise, I have 5 new BFG All-Terrain T/A LT 215 75 R15
> 100/97S
> > > tyres waiting to go on the syncro. Only one so far is on a Merc 15"
> > > rim,
> > > hence it's inflatable.
> > >
> > > Diameter measurement of an unmounted tyre is 699mm (at middle of
> tyre
> > > tread). If the measurement was taken at the tread shoulder, it
> > > would be
> > > less than that.
> > >
> > > Diameter measurement of an inflated tyre @ 40psi is 700mm.
> > >
> > > It's not possible for me to misread my measurements to the tune of
> > > 9mm,
> > > so it begs the question above.
> > >
> > > For this BFG 700mm diameter size tyre, there are positives and
> > > negatives.
> > >
> > > It fits (as previously described in my earlier posts on this)
> > > underneath
> > > the van uninflated. In fact, I'm now at the next stage of
> > > experimenting
> > > and have today successfully fitted it underneath inflated to 40psi.
> I
> > > intend monitoring this to see how things go over time, but initial
> > > tests
> > > suggest a positive outcome.
> > >
> > > I no longer need my rear tyre carrier, so that gets rid of some
> > > weight,
> > > transfers the weight of the spare wheel to the front where it
> belongs
> > > and I get easy access via my rear door now .... all good.
> > >
> > > Only downside is my existing Goodyear Wrangler AT/R 215 75 R15 offer
> > > more clearance due to their larger diameter, but these won't fit
> > > underneath at the front so I have to carry the spare on the rear
> tyre
> > > rack.
> > >
> > > Taking all plusses and minuses into account, the BFG's offer me the
> > > best
> > > configuration. I just have to live with a slightly smaller
> clearance.
> > >
> > > Cheers.
> > >
> > > Ken
> > >
> > > --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, plander@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > > BFG A/T 215/75X15 is 70.9cms.
> > > >
> > > > The stock Australia delivered Michelin 205x14C is 481 rev/km.
> > > > BFG A/T 215/75X15 is 464 rev/km
> > > >
> > > > Is this the information that you want?
> > > >
> > > > Phill
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Erik Hoflinger erikhoeflinger@ wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi guys,
> > > > >
> > > > > The new gearbox I bought from the uk is an AVU with a ratio of
> > > 6.17
> > > so
> > > > > around 10% lower geared than the 6p box and I'd factored this
> > > in as
> > > I
> > > > > wanted to put 15" tires on and ultimately bring gearing as
> similar
> > > to
> > > > > stock as I can again. What type of 15" rims are people here
> > > running
> > > on
> > > > > their syncros. Would prefer to buy in oz than from overseas. I
> > > know
> > > > > someone from kombi club has 15" TKS shadows on his syncro but
> not
> > > sure
> > > > > on their load rating/ET. Anybody run larger than 215/75/15.
> would
> > > give a
> > > > > tyre height of 70cms approx? Anyone gone to the max of 74-75cms?
> > > > >
> > > > > cheers,
> > > > >
> > > > > erik
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
12
I am running 15 X 7 at 27.5 mm offset and they clear everything in ordinary driving but I haven't used them anywhere where I would experience full lock at full bump.  They might touch something under those circumstances.
 
Les
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 3:50 PM
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Tyre sizes

Ken,
It depends on your wheel size and offset. With 15x7 ET24 they will rub. With 15x6 and standard offset, they do not rub.

What are yours?

Phill

.

13
Try driving up a standard gutter/kerb at about 70% lock.


> Les Harris <leslieharris@optushome.com.au> wrote:
>
> I am running 15 X 7 at 27.5 mm offset and they clear everything in
> ordinary driving but I haven't used them anywhere where I would
> experience full lock at full bump. They might touch something under
> those circumstances.
>
> Les
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: plander@optusnet.com.au
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 3:50 PM
> Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Tyre sizes
>
>
> Ken,
> It depends on your wheel size and offset. With 15x7 ET24 they will
> rub. With 15x6 and standard offset, they do not rub.
>
> What are yours?
>
> Phill
>
>
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Mine ar Merc 15x6 marked ET49 but they actually measure ET31, as I
described in a previous post.


--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, plander@... wrote:
>
> Ken,
> It depends on your wheel size and offset. With 15x7 ET24 they will
rub. With 15x6 and standard offset, they do not rub.
>
> What are yours?
>
> Phill
>
>
>
> > Ken unclekenz@... wrote:
> >
> >
> > Gday Bruce,
> >
> > mmmmmm .... you've been doing your homework proper eh ... haha
> >
> > the other BFG benefit I'm looking forward to is less or perhaps even
no
> > front tyre scrubbing on the wheel arch plastic trims when offroad on
a
> > lock ... due to its smaller diameter. Well time in due course will
> > reveal all.
> >
> > Cheers.
> >
> > Ken
> >
> >
> > --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, Alison & Bruce Black
> > royalb@ wrote:
> > >
> > > Ken
> > > I would say Phil got that 709mm diameter of the BFG 215/75 R15
> > > from the BFG brochure, because that is what it says on the one I
> > > have. Their web site doesn't give a diameter any more.
> > >
> > > Your Goodyear Wranglers are 215R15 not 215/75R15 that is why they
are
> > > bigger, profile is probably is 80 or so.
> > >
> > > Have fun Ken
> > >
> > > Bruce
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 27/03/2009, at 2:44 PM, Ken wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Phill,
> > > >
> > > > Concerning the diameter dimension you specify below, I wonder if
> > > > BFG has
> > > > changed the tyre construction to arrive at a smaller diameter or
am
> > I
> > > > talking about a different model BFG tyre than you?
> > > >
> > > > To be precise, I have 5 new BFG All-Terrain T/A LT 215 75 R15
> > 100/97S
> > > > tyres waiting to go on the syncro. Only one so far is on a Merc
15"
> > > > rim,
> > > > hence it's inflatable.
> > > >
> > > > Diameter measurement of an unmounted tyre is 699mm (at middle of
> > tyre
> > > > tread). If the measurement was taken at the tread shoulder, it
> > > > would be
> > > > less than that.
> > > >
> > > > Diameter measurement of an inflated tyre @ 40psi is 700mm.
> > > >
> > > > It's not possible for me to misread my measurements to the tune
of
> > > > 9mm,
> > > > so it begs the question above.
> > > >
> > > > For this BFG 700mm diameter size tyre, there are positives and
> > > > negatives.
> > > >
> > > > It fits (as previously described in my earlier posts on this)
> > > > underneath
> > > > the van uninflated. In fact, I'm now at the next stage of
> > > > experimenting
> > > > and have today successfully fitted it underneath inflated to
40psi.
> > I
> > > > intend monitoring this to see how things go over time, but
initial
> > > > tests
> > > > suggest a positive outcome.
> > > >
> > > > I no longer need my rear tyre carrier, so that gets rid of some
> > > > weight,
> > > > transfers the weight of the spare wheel to the front where it
> > belongs
> > > > and I get easy access via my rear door now .... all good.
> > > >
> > > > Only downside is my existing Goodyear Wrangler AT/R 215 75 R15
offer
> > > > more clearance due to their larger diameter, but these won't fit
> > > > underneath at the front so I have to carry the spare on the rear
> > tyre
> > > > rack.
> > > >
> > > > Taking all plusses and minuses into account, the BFG's offer me
the
> > > > best
> > > > configuration. I just have to live with a slightly smaller
> > clearance.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers.
> > > >
> > > > Ken
> > > >
> > > > --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, plander@ wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > BFG A/T 215/75X15 is 70.9cms.
> > > > >
> > > > > The stock Australia delivered Michelin 205x14C is 481 rev/km.
> > > > > BFG A/T 215/75X15 is 464 rev/km
> > > > >
> > > > > Is this the information that you want?
> > > > >
> > > > > Phill
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Erik Hoflinger erikhoeflinger@ wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi guys,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The new gearbox I bought from the uk is an AVU with a ratio
of
> > > > 6.17
> > > > so
> > > > > > around 10% lower geared than the 6p box and I'd factored
this
> > > > in as
> > > > I
> > > > > > wanted to put 15" tires on and ultimately bring gearing as
> > similar
> > > > to
> > > > > > stock as I can again. What type of 15" rims are people here
> > > > running
> > > > on
> > > > > > their syncros. Would prefer to buy in oz than from overseas.
I
> > > > know
> > > > > > someone from kombi club has 15" TKS shadows on his syncro
but
> > not
> > > > sure
> > > > > > on their load rating/ET. Anybody run larger than 215/75/15.
> > would
> > > > give a
> > > > > > tyre height of 70cms approx? Anyone gone to the max of
74-75cms?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > cheers,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > erik
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
>
15
They should not rub.

What did you do for wheel nuts?

>
> Mine ar Merc 15x6 marked ET49 but they actually measure ET31, as I
> described in a previous post.
>
>
> --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, plander@... wrote:
> >
> > Ken,
> > It depends on your wheel size and offset. With 15x7 ET24 they will
> rub. With 15x6 and standard offset, they do not rub.
> >
> > What are yours?
> >
> > Phill
> >
> >
> >
> > > Ken unclekenz@... wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Gday Bruce,
> > >
> > > mmmmmm .... you've been doing your homework proper eh ... haha
> > >
> > > the other BFG benefit I'm looking forward to is less or perhaps even
> no
> > > front tyre scrubbing on the wheel arch plastic trims when offroad on
> a
> > > lock ... due to its smaller diameter. Well time in due course will
> > > reveal all.
> > >
> > > Cheers.
> > >
> > > Ken
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, Alison & Bruce Black
> > > royalb@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Ken
> > > > I would say Phil got that 709mm diameter of the BFG 215/75 R15
> > > > from the BFG brochure, because that is what it says on the one I
> > > > have. Their web site doesn't give a diameter any more.
> > > >
> > > > Your Goodyear Wranglers are 215R15 not 215/75R15 that is why they
> are
> > > > bigger, profile is probably is 80 or so.
> > > >
> > > > Have fun Ken
> > > >
> > > > Bruce
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 27/03/2009, at 2:44 PM, Ken wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Phill,
> > > > >
> > > > > Concerning the diameter dimension you specify below, I wonder if
> > > > > BFG has
> > > > > changed the tyre construction to arrive at a smaller diameter or
> am
> > > I
> > > > > talking about a different model BFG tyre than you?
> > > > >
> > > > > To be precise, I have 5 new BFG All-Terrain T/A LT 215 75 R15
> > > 100/97S
> > > > > tyres waiting to go on the syncro. Only one so far is on a Merc
> 15"
> > > > > rim,
> > > > > hence it's inflatable.
> > > > >
> > > > > Diameter measurement of an unmounted tyre is 699mm (at middle of
> > > tyre
> > > > > tread). If the measurement was taken at the tread shoulder, it
> > > > > would be
> > > > > less than that.
> > > > >
> > > > > Diameter measurement of an inflated tyre @ 40psi is 700mm.
> > > > >
> > > > > It's not possible for me to misread my measurements to the tune
> of
> > > > > 9mm,
> > > > > so it begs the question above.
> > > > >
> > > > > For this BFG 700mm diameter size tyre, there are positives and
> > > > > negatives.
> > > > >
> > > > > It fits (as previously described in my earlier posts on this)
> > > > > underneath
> > > > > the van uninflated. In fact, I'm now at the next stage of
> > > > > experimenting
> > > > > and have today successfully fitted it underneath inflated to
> 40psi.
> > > I
> > > > > intend monitoring this to see how things go over time, but
> initial
> > > > > tests
> > > > > suggest a positive outcome.
> > > > >
> > > > > I no longer need my rear tyre carrier, so that gets rid of some
> > > > > weight,
> > > > > transfers the weight of the spare wheel to the front where it
> > > belongs
> > > > > and I get easy access via my rear door now .... all good.
> > > > >
> > > > > Only downside is my existing Goodyear Wrangler AT/R 215 75 R15
> offer
> > > > > more clearance due to their larger diameter, but these won't fit
> > > > > underneath at the front so I have to carry the spare on the rear
> > > tyre
> > > > > rack.
> > > > >
> > > > > Taking all plusses and minuses into account, the BFG's offer me
> the
> > > > > best
> > > > > configuration. I just have to live with a slightly smaller
> > > clearance.
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers.
> > > > >
> > > > > Ken
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, plander@ wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > BFG A/T 215/75X15 is 70.9cms.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The stock Australia delivered Michelin 205x14C is 481 rev/km.
> > > > > > BFG A/T 215/75X15 is 464 rev/km
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Is this the information that you want?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Phill
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Erik Hoflinger erikhoeflinger@ wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi guys,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The new gearbox I bought from the uk is an AVU with a ratio
> of
> > > > > 6.17
> > > > > so
> > > > > > > around 10% lower geared than the 6p box and I'd factored
> this
> > > > > in as
> > > > > I
> > > > > > > wanted to put 15" tires on and ultimately bring gearing as
> > > similar
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > stock as I can again. What type of 15" rims are people here
> > > > > running
> > > > > on
> > > > > > > their syncros. Would prefer to buy in oz than from overseas.
> I
> > > > > know
> > > > > > > someone from kombi club has 15" TKS shadows on his syncro
> but
> > > not
> > > > > sure
> > > > > > > on their load rating/ET. Anybody run larger than 215/75/15.
> > > would
> > > > > give a
> > > > > > > tyre height of 70cms approx? Anyone gone to the max of
> 74-75cms?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > cheers,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > erik
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> >
16
Hi,

running 215/80R15 (yokohama geolandar AT) with the standard lift (2wd
springs in front 20mm plates in rear) and no body modifications, which
should be the absolute maximum without further modifications: 72.5cm.
75cm without cutting the rear edge of the front wheel arches sounds
hilarious, i'd also doubt the usefulness with 14" rear trailing arms
alltogether :) many people over here run 235/75R15 or even 30x9.5R15
with 14" trailing arms, but you definately need to cut some metal in
front there..... same with 225/75R15...

.martin



On 22.03.2009, at 07:15, Erik Hoflinger wrote:

> yeah thanks that'll help. Should have probably changed the heading
> of my post to tire measurements and 15" wheels but too late now. I'm
> also curious where people are sourcing their 15" wheels from and how
> large people have gone without tires scrubbing.Cheers
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>



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http://log.tigerbus.de
17
I didn't know you could run 2wd springs up front, what sort of lift does that give?


[2 0 / 2 1 Design]
28 Gwynne St
Richmond
Vic 3121
gary@twentytwentyone.net
www.twentytwentyone.net
Tel 3 9429 1868
Fax 3 9421 1110
Mob 0417 352782

On 06/04/2009, at 5:37 AM, Martin Henning wrote:

Hi,

running 215/80R15 (yokohama geolandar AT) with the standard lift (2wd 
springs in front 20mm plates in rear) and no body modifications, which 
should be the absolute maximum without further modifications: 72.5cm. 
75cm without cutting the rear edge of the front wheel arches sounds 
hilarious, i'd also doubt the usefulness with 14" rear trailing arms 
alltogether :) many people over here run 235/75R15 or even 30x9.5R15 
with 14" trailing arms, but you definately need to cut some metal in 
front there..... same with 225/75R15...

.martin

On 22.03.2009, at 07:15, Erik Hoflinger wrote:

> yeah thanks that'll help. Should have probably changed the heading 
> of my post to tire measurements and 15" wheels but too late now. I'm 
> also curious where people are sourcing their 15" wheels from and how 
> large people have gone without tires scrubbing.Cheers
>
>
>
> ------------ --------- --------- ------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

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martin@easy2design. de
http://log.tigerbus .de


18
Hey martin,

cheers for the info on tyres. Where did you get the rear spacers from and I'm also interested in knowing what lift you get with 2wd springs up front? which shocks are you running? thanks

erik
19
Heyas,

I'm not sure what whether you are trying to kid me or not? :) The
absolute standard lifting over here consists of 2WD transporter
springs in front and 19mm spacer with an additional original rubber
spacer in the rear (setup in the rear would be: rubber-19mm spacer-
rubber). The rear spacers could be just about anything. People
manufacture them from various sorts of plastic or aluminum. People who
do care about technical inspections and like official numbers hav to
go with spacers by WEITEC - 19mm rear spacer with official papers for
the syncro, cost around 70 EUR per set. Front springs are nothing
special, you can order them from volkswagen or some other supplier for
around 60EUR/piece if i remember right. I'll post the part number as
soon as I find it :) 2WD springs are a little longer than 4WD springs
(in front!) and the doka/trnsporter variant is even a little harder.
Depending on your vehicle's weight you'd get a very decent lift of
2-3cm for sure. Shocks and CVs all stay the same, tested a million
times over here. The official variant (with WEITEC) with all parts
brand new, including additional rubber pieces sell as a lift kit over
here for 199 EUR. E.g. here first item under "syncro" http://www.vwbusservice.de/zubehoer/dex.htm
- maybe you can order 10 lift kits in a group buy :) The attached
picture are taken after 2 years, so the springs have definately come
down, as all new springs do. Additionally, on both pictures I have a
camping interior and around 300kg weight inside. Tyres are 215/80R15
which is a good size to actually "hide" the lift :))

Happy lifting,

Martin
20
Thanks Martin. No not kidding, I didn't know the 2wd springs could be used. My front ones are a bit tired and i thought about spacers but in Australia everything is a bit hard to get so we have to buy from Europe or the US. 2wd front springs would be available though so thanks for the info and pics of your nice bus.

Cheers
Gary

[2 0 / 2 1 Design]
28 Gwynne St
Richmond
Vic 3121
gary@twentytwentyone.net
www.twentytwentyone.net
Tel 3 9429 1868
Fax 3 9421 1110
Mob 0417 352782

On 07/04/2009, at 5:20 PM, Martin Henning wrote:

Heyas,

I'm not sure what whether you are trying to kid me or not? :) The 
absolute standard lifting over here consists of 2WD transporter 
springs in front and 19mm spacer with an additional original rubber 
spacer in the rear (setup in the rear would be: rubber-19mm spacer- 
rubber). The rear spacers could be just about anything. People 
manufacture them from various sorts of plastic or aluminum. People who 
do care about technical inspections and like official numbers hav to 
go with spacers by WEITEC - 19mm rear spacer with official papers for 
the syncro, cost around 70 EUR per set. Front springs are nothing 
special, you can order them from volkswagen or some other supplier for 
around 60EUR/piece if i remember right. I'll post the part number as 
soon as I find it :) 2WD springs are a little longer than 4WD springs 
(in front!) and the doka/trnsporter variant is even a little harder. 
Depending on your vehicle's weight you'd get a very decent lift of 
2-3cm for sure. Shocks and CVs all stay the same, tested a million 
times over here. The official variant (with WEITEC) with all parts 
brand new, including additional rubber pieces sell as a lift kit over 
here for 199 EUR. E.g. here first item under "syncro" http://www.vwbusser vice.de/zubehoer /dex.htm 
- maybe you can order 10 lift kits in a group buy :) The attached 
picture are taken after 2 years, so the springs have definately come 
down, as all new springs do. Additionally, on both pictures I have a 
camping interior and around 300kg weight inside. Tyres are 215/80R15 
which is a good size to actually "hide" the lift :))

Happy lifting,

Martin

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On 06.04.2009, at 09:59, Erik Hoflinger wrote:

Hey martin,

cheers for the info on tyres. Where did you get the rear spacers from and I'm also interested in knowing what lift you get with 2wd springs up front? which shocks are you running? thanks

erik



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