Where to get a New VC?

21
I asked Tooley Imports at Waitara if they imported T3 syncro VC's ...
they said no

I've not yet seen anyone here or elsewhere list a local source of new
VC's.

Ken


--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, plander@... wrote:
>
>
> Has anyone priced one in Australia?
>
> Phill
>
>
> > Les Harris leslieharris@... wrote:
> >
> > Andrew,
> >
> > Mike Plompen is the Belgium man:
> > http://www.busman.be/
> >
> > Another source is Bernd Jaeger:
> > http://www.syncro-bernd-jaeger.de/
> >
> > And there are several US suppliers.
> >
> > Given the strength of the Australian dollar, both Europe and the US
are
> > good deals.
> >
> > There is no doubt that a new VC is the best path. The Syncro system
> > (read Steyer Puch) is extremely good and works extremely well. The
> > reason that I went to a decoupler was that I was quite happy with
the
> > more aggressive function of the VC so decided to keep it for now.
> >
> > I was also interested in the fuel consumption question. At that
time,
> > there was a lot of speculation and many wild claims on the various
> > groups to the effect that running decoupled would give massive
> > improvements in fuel consumption. As a motor vehicle engineer of
some
> > experience, I had big doubts about that, so I ran a test over 30,000
km
> > using both modes. The outcome was that I got (on identical running)
0.8
> > km per litre BETTER fuel consumption in AWD.
> >
> > One last word of warning; there are some 'reconditioned' VC's on the
> > market about which there have been some questions as to whether the
> > reconditioner/s actually knew what they were doing. I would go for a
> > new one rather than a reconditioned.
> >
> > Les
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: andrewbuchan88
> > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 10:02 AM
> > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Where to get a New VC?
> >
> >
> > Thanks Les,
> > It is good to know that you can continue to drive the vehicle
> > normally and not cause major problems with an aggressive VC. Some
> > other owners are more alarmist about this. I replaced all four tyres
> > at once with the same size all round and have rotated them front to
> > rear so the wear should be even but would like to check anyhow.
> > I think it might be cheaper to buy and fit a reconditioned VC rather
> > than a decoupler.
> >
> > andy buchan
> >
> > --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Les Harris"
> > leslieharris@ wrote:
> > >
> > > Andy,
> > >
> > > Like everything else, the VC wears with use. Mine has
> > been 'binding' / 'aggressive' since I bought the vehicle and my
> > coping strategy is to use a decoupler. If it gets considerably
> > worse, I will look at replacing the VC. Yes, it is nice to have new
> > vehicle function but that always comes at a cost.
> > >
> > > Regarding highway travel, the VC is doing the least work when
> > travelling on the highway because there is almost zero difference
> > between front and rear axle speeds but it still accumulates heat.
> > Since the operation of the VC is a function of changes in heat in
the
> > silicone fluid, you will find that it is 'binding' after a long
> > highway run. This is not of itself detrimental. I certainly don't
> > limit my highway speed because my VC is on the aggressive side. As I
> > have said, it has been that way since I acquired the vehicle and was
> > a result of general, normal operational wear plus the original owner
> > running totally different tyres front and back.
> > >
> > > I will send the tyre measuring procedure by direct email.
> > >
> > > Les Harris
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: andrewbuchan88
> > > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 8:42 PM
> > > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Where to get a New VC?
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks for your replies,
> > > I am aware that differences in tyre diameter will cause the VC to
> > > heat up and engage. I have a set of fairly new tyres fitted that
> > have
> > > been rotated and should be evenly worn, they look OK. I live in
> > > Adelaide and on a recent trip to the NSW north coast I noticed
> > the
> > > binding when pulling into the supermarket carpark in a country
> > town
> > > along the way. I decided to make regular stops every couple of
> > hours
> > > and let the drive train cool down before continuing and limited
> > my
> > > speed to 90km/h. This is OK if you are not pressed for time but I
> > > know when I first bought the van I could travel at 110 km/h all
> > day
> > > on the highway and not notice any binding when pulling into a
> > > roadhouse or wayside stops. I would like to get similar
> > performance
> > > to when it was new. A decoupler may solve the problem but it is a
> > > modification and requires driver input. Originally the VC would
> > only
> > > engage when necessary and not cause any strain on the other
> > > components.
> > > Les, I would like to hear your method for accurately measuring
> > the
> > > wheel diameters, and I would also like to hear from anyone who
> > has
> > > replaced a VC with info on where to get one and how difficult it
> > is
> > > to fit. I am also open to the opinion that the binding is not a
> > bad
> > > thing and any info from someone who has noticed this for a long
> > > period and has not had any further problems as a result would be
> > > welcome.
> > >
> > > Andy
> > >
> > >
> > > Recent Activity
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>
22
I have! They usually have a big Volkswagen sign out the front.

Phill


> Ken <unclekenz@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> I asked Tooley Imports at Waitara if they imported T3 syncro VC's ...
> they said no
>
> I've not yet seen anyone here or elsewhere list a local source of new
> VC's.
>
> Ken
>
>
> --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, plander@... wrote:
> >
> >
> > Has anyone priced one in Australia?
> >
> > Phill
> >
> >
> > > Les Harris leslieharris@... wrote:
> > >
> > > Andrew,
> > >
> > > Mike Plompen is the Belgium man:
> > > http://www.busman.be/
> > >
> > > Another source is Bernd Jaeger:
> > > http://www.syncro-bernd-jaeger.de/
> > >
> > > And there are several US suppliers.
> > >
> > > Given the strength of the Australian dollar, both Europe and the US
> are
> > > good deals.
> > >
> > > There is no doubt that a new VC is the best path. The Syncro system
> > > (read Steyer Puch) is extremely good and works extremely well. The
> > > reason that I went to a decoupler was that I was quite happy with
> the
> > > more aggressive function of the VC so decided to keep it for now.
> > >
> > > I was also interested in the fuel consumption question. At that
> time,
> > > there was a lot of speculation and many wild claims on the various
> > > groups to the effect that running decoupled would give massive
> > > improvements in fuel consumption. As a motor vehicle engineer of
> some
> > > experience, I had big doubts about that, so I ran a test over 30,000
> km
> > > using both modes. The outcome was that I got (on identical running)
> 0.8
> > > km per litre BETTER fuel consumption in AWD.
> > >
> > > One last word of warning; there are some 'reconditioned' VC's on the
> > > market about which there have been some questions as to whether the
> > > reconditioner/s actually knew what they were doing. I would go for a
> > > new one rather than a reconditioned.
> > >
> > > Les
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: andrewbuchan88
> > > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 10:02 AM
> > > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Where to get a New VC?
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks Les,
> > > It is good to know that you can continue to drive the vehicle
> > > normally and not cause major problems with an aggressive VC. Some
> > > other owners are more alarmist about this. I replaced all four tyres
> > > at once with the same size all round and have rotated them front to
> > > rear so the wear should be even but would like to check anyhow.
> > > I think it might be cheaper to buy and fit a reconditioned VC rather
> > > than a decoupler.
> > >
> > > andy buchan
> > >
> > > --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Les Harris"
> > > leslieharris@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Andy,
> > > >
> > > > Like everything else, the VC wears with use. Mine has
> > > been 'binding' / 'aggressive' since I bought the vehicle and my
> > > coping strategy is to use a decoupler. If it gets considerably
> > > worse, I will look at replacing the VC. Yes, it is nice to have new
> > > vehicle function but that always comes at a cost.
> > > >
> > > > Regarding highway travel, the VC is doing the least work when
> > > travelling on the highway because there is almost zero difference
> > > between front and rear axle speeds but it still accumulates heat.
> > > Since the operation of the VC is a function of changes in heat in
> the
> > > silicone fluid, you will find that it is 'binding' after a long
> > > highway run. This is not of itself detrimental. I certainly don't
> > > limit my highway speed because my VC is on the aggressive side. As I
> > > have said, it has been that way since I acquired the vehicle and was
> > > a result of general, normal operational wear plus the original owner
> > > running totally different tyres front and back.
> > > >
> > > > I will send the tyre measuring procedure by direct email.
> > > >
> > > > Les Harris
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: andrewbuchan88
> > > > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 8:42 PM
> > > > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Where to get a New VC?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for your replies,
> > > > I am aware that differences in tyre diameter will cause the VC to
> > > > heat up and engage. I have a set of fairly new tyres fitted that
> > > have
> > > > been rotated and should be evenly worn, they look OK. I live in
> > > > Adelaide and on a recent trip to the NSW north coast I noticed
> > > the
> > > > binding when pulling into the supermarket carpark in a country
> > > town
> > > > along the way. I decided to make regular stops every couple of
> > > hours
> > > > and let the drive train cool down before continuing and limited
> > > my
> > > > speed to 90km/h. This is OK if you are not pressed for time but I
> > > > know when I first bought the van I could travel at 110 km/h all
> > > day
> > > > on the highway and not notice any binding when pulling into a
> > > > roadhouse or wayside stops. I would like to get similar
> > > performance
> > > > to when it was new. A decoupler may solve the problem but it is a
> > > > modification and requires driver input. Originally the VC would
> > > only
> > > > engage when necessary and not cause any strain on the other
> > > > components.
> > > > Les, I would like to hear your method for accurately measuring
> > > the
> > > > wheel diameters, and I would also like to hear from anyone who
> > > has
> > > > replaced a VC with info on where to get one and how difficult it
> > > is
> > > > to fit. I am also open to the opinion that the binding is not a
> > > bad
> > > > thing and any info from someone who has noticed this for a long
> > > > period and has not had any further problems as a result would be
> > > > welcome.
> > > >
> > > > Andy
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Recent Activity
> > > > a.. 1New Members
> > > > Visit Your Group
> > > > Health Zone
> > > > Look your best!
> > > >
> > > > Groups to help you
> > > >
> > > > look & feel great.
> > > >
> > > > Yahoo! News
> > > > Get it all here
> > > >
> > > > Breaking news to
> > > >
> > > > entertainment news
> > > >
> > > > Sell Online
> > > > Start selling with
> > > >
> > > > our award-winning
> > > >
> > > > e-commerce tools.
> > > > .
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
23
Wow! Thanks for that Phill.

So enlighten us.

Go get the answer to your own question, that'd be useful.

Ken


--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, plander@... wrote:
>
>
> I have! They usually have a big Volkswagen sign out the front.
>
> Phill
>
>
> > Ken unclekenz@... wrote:
> >
> >
> > I asked Tooley Imports at Waitara if they imported T3 syncro VC's
...
> > they said no
> >
> > I've not yet seen anyone here or elsewhere list a local source of
new
> > VC's.
> >
> > Ken
> >
> >
> > --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, plander@ wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Has anyone priced one in Australia?
> > >
> > > Phill
> > >
> > >
> > > > Les Harris leslieharris@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Andrew,
> > > >
> > > > Mike Plompen is the Belgium man:
> > > > http://www.busman.be/
> > > >
> > > > Another source is Bernd Jaeger:
> > > > http://www.syncro-bernd-jaeger.de/
> > > >
> > > > And there are several US suppliers.
> > > >
> > > > Given the strength of the Australian dollar, both Europe and the
US
> > are
> > > > good deals.
> > > >
> > > > There is no doubt that a new VC is the best path. The Syncro
system
> > > > (read Steyer Puch) is extremely good and works extremely well.
The
> > > > reason that I went to a decoupler was that I was quite happy
with
> > the
> > > > more aggressive function of the VC so decided to keep it for
now.
> > > >
> > > > I was also interested in the fuel consumption question. At that
> > time,
> > > > there was a lot of speculation and many wild claims on the
various
> > > > groups to the effect that running decoupled would give massive
> > > > improvements in fuel consumption. As a motor vehicle engineer of
> > some
> > > > experience, I had big doubts about that, so I ran a test over
30,000
> > km
> > > > using both modes. The outcome was that I got (on identical
running)
> > 0.8
> > > > km per litre BETTER fuel consumption in AWD.
> > > >
> > > > One last word of warning; there are some 'reconditioned' VC's on
the
> > > > market about which there have been some questions as to whether
the
> > > > reconditioner/s actually knew what they were doing. I would go
for a
> > > > new one rather than a reconditioned.
> > > >
> > > > Les
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: andrewbuchan88
> > > > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 10:02 AM
> > > > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Where to get a New VC?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks Les,
> > > > It is good to know that you can continue to drive the vehicle
> > > > normally and not cause major problems with an aggressive VC.
Some
> > > > other owners are more alarmist about this. I replaced all four
tyres
> > > > at once with the same size all round and have rotated them front
to
> > > > rear so the wear should be even but would like to check anyhow.
> > > > I think it might be cheaper to buy and fit a reconditioned VC
rather
> > > > than a decoupler.
> > > >
> > > > andy buchan
> > > >
> > > > --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Les Harris"
> > > > leslieharris@ wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Andy,
> > > > >
> > > > > Like everything else, the VC wears with use. Mine has
> > > > been 'binding' / 'aggressive' since I bought the vehicle and my
> > > > coping strategy is to use a decoupler. If it gets considerably
> > > > worse, I will look at replacing the VC. Yes, it is nice to have
new
> > > > vehicle function but that always comes at a cost.
> > > > >
> > > > > Regarding highway travel, the VC is doing the least work when
> > > > travelling on the highway because there is almost zero
difference
> > > > between front and rear axle speeds but it still accumulates
heat.
> > > > Since the operation of the VC is a function of changes in heat
in
> > the
> > > > silicone fluid, you will find that it is 'binding' after a long
> > > > highway run. This is not of itself detrimental. I certainly
don't
> > > > limit my highway speed because my VC is on the aggressive side.
As I
> > > > have said, it has been that way since I acquired the vehicle and
was
> > > > a result of general, normal operational wear plus the original
owner
> > > > running totally different tyres front and back.
> > > > >
> > > > > I will send the tyre measuring procedure by direct email.
> > > > >
> > > > > Les Harris
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: andrewbuchan88
> > > > > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 8:42 PM
> > > > > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Where to get a New VC?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for your replies,
> > > > > I am aware that differences in tyre diameter will cause the VC
to
> > > > > heat up and engage. I have a set of fairly new tyres fitted
that
> > > > have
> > > > > been rotated and should be evenly worn, they look OK. I live
in
> > > > > Adelaide and on a recent trip to the NSW north coast I noticed
> > > > the
> > > > > binding when pulling into the supermarket carpark in a country
> > > > town
> > > > > along the way. I decided to make regular stops every couple of
> > > > hours
> > > > > and let the drive train cool down before continuing and
limited
> > > > my
> > > > > speed to 90km/h. This is OK if you are not pressed for time
but I
> > > > > know when I first bought the van I could travel at 110 km/h
all
> > > > day
> > > > > on the highway and not notice any binding when pulling into a
> > > > > roadhouse or wayside stops. I would like to get similar
> > > > performance
> > > > > to when it was new. A decoupler may solve the problem but it
is a
> > > > > modification and requires driver input. Originally the VC
would
> > > > only
> > > > > engage when necessary and not cause any strain on the other
> > > > > components.
> > > > > Les, I would like to hear your method for accurately measuring
> > > > the
> > > > > wheel diameters, and I would also like to hear from anyone who
> > > > has
> > > > > replaced a VC with info on where to get one and how difficult
it
> > > > is
> > > > > to fit. I am also open to the opinion that the binding is not
a
> > > > bad
> > > > > thing and any info from someone who has noticed this for a
long
> > > > > period and has not had any further problems as a result would
be
> > > > > welcome.
> > > > >
> > > > > Andy
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Recent Activity
> > > > > a.. 1New Members
> > > > > Visit Your Group
> > > > > Health Zone
> > > > > Look your best!
> > > > >
> > > > > Groups to help you
> > > > >
> > > > > look & feel great.
> > > > >
> > > > > Yahoo! News
> > > > > Get it all here
> > > > >
> > > > > Breaking news to
> > > > >
> > > > > entertainment news
> > > > >
> > > > > Sell Online
> > > > > Start selling with
> > > > >
> > > > > our award-winning
> > > > >
> > > > > e-commerce tools.
> > > > > .
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
>
24
Hi Les, Ken and phil,
Thanks for your help with this problem, I have contacted a number of
companies that import volkswagon parts from europe but none of them
import the viscous couplings for T3's the main excuse being that
there are not enough of these vehicles in australia so they don't
think it is worth the effort. I have contacted Derek Drew in the US
and have got heaps of information from him, he has new OEM VC's in
stock and exports to australia. I will include some links he sent me
so anyone interested can have a read.

http://users.rcn.com/derekdrew/vanagon/viscous_couplings_vanagon_syncr
o.htm

http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Syncro/message/17172

http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Syncro/message/24615

cheers
andy buchan




--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Ken" <unclekenz@...>
wrote:
>
>
> Wow! Thanks for that Phill.
>
> So enlighten us.
>
> Go get the answer to your own question, that'd be useful.
>
> Ken
>
>
> --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, plander@ wrote:
> >
> >
> > I have! They usually have a big Volkswagen sign out the front.
> >
> > Phill
> >
> >
> > > Ken unclekenz@ wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > I asked Tooley Imports at Waitara if they imported T3 syncro
VC's
> ...
> > > they said no
> > >
> > > I've not yet seen anyone here or elsewhere list a local source
of
> new
> > > VC's.
> > >
> > > Ken
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, plander@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Has anyone priced one in Australia?
> > > >
> > > > Phill
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Les Harris leslieharris@ wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Andrew,
> > > > >
> > > > > Mike Plompen is the Belgium man:
> > > > > http://www.busman.be/
> > > > >
> > > > > Another source is Bernd Jaeger:
> > > > > http://www.syncro-bernd-jaeger.de/
> > > > >
> > > > > And there are several US suppliers.
> > > > >
> > > > > Given the strength of the Australian dollar, both Europe
and the
> US
> > > are
> > > > > good deals.
> > > > >
> > > > > There is no doubt that a new VC is the best path. The Syncro
> system
> > > > > (read Steyer Puch) is extremely good and works extremely
well.
> The
> > > > > reason that I went to a decoupler was that I was quite happy
> with
> > > the
> > > > > more aggressive function of the VC so decided to keep it for
> now.
> > > > >
> > > > > I was also interested in the fuel consumption question. At
that
> > > time,
> > > > > there was a lot of speculation and many wild claims on the
> various
> > > > > groups to the effect that running decoupled would give
massive
> > > > > improvements in fuel consumption. As a motor vehicle
engineer of
> > > some
> > > > > experience, I had big doubts about that, so I ran a test
over
> 30,000
> > > km
> > > > > using both modes. The outcome was that I got (on identical
> running)
> > > 0.8
> > > > > km per litre BETTER fuel consumption in AWD.
> > > > >
> > > > > One last word of warning; there are some 'reconditioned'
VC's on
> the
> > > > > market about which there have been some questions as to
whether
> the
> > > > > reconditioner/s actually knew what they were doing. I would
go
> for a
> > > > > new one rather than a reconditioned.
> > > > >
> > > > > Les
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: andrewbuchan88
> > > > > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 10:02 AM
> > > > > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Where to get a New VC?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks Les,
> > > > > It is good to know that you can continue to drive the
vehicle
> > > > > normally and not cause major problems with an aggressive VC.
> Some
> > > > > other owners are more alarmist about this. I replaced all
four
> tyres
> > > > > at once with the same size all round and have rotated them
front
> to
> > > > > rear so the wear should be even but would like to check
anyhow.
> > > > > I think it might be cheaper to buy and fit a reconditioned
VC
> rather
> > > > > than a decoupler.
> > > > >
> > > > > andy buchan
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Les Harris"
> > > > > leslieharris@ wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Andy,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Like everything else, the VC wears with use. Mine has
> > > > > been 'binding' / 'aggressive' since I bought the vehicle
and my
> > > > > coping strategy is to use a decoupler. If it gets
considerably
> > > > > worse, I will look at replacing the VC. Yes, it is nice to
have
> new
> > > > > vehicle function but that always comes at a cost.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Regarding highway travel, the VC is doing the least work
when
> > > > > travelling on the highway because there is almost zero
> difference
> > > > > between front and rear axle speeds but it still accumulates
> heat.
> > > > > Since the operation of the VC is a function of changes in
heat
> in
> > > the
> > > > > silicone fluid, you will find that it is 'binding' after a
long
> > > > > highway run. This is not of itself detrimental. I certainly
> don't
> > > > > limit my highway speed because my VC is on the aggressive
side.
> As I
> > > > > have said, it has been that way since I acquired the
vehicle and
> was
> > > > > a result of general, normal operational wear plus the
original
> owner
> > > > > running totally different tyres front and back.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I will send the tyre measuring procedure by direct email.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Les Harris
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: andrewbuchan88
> > > > > > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 8:42 PM
> > > > > > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Where to get a New VC?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks for your replies,
> > > > > > I am aware that differences in tyre diameter will cause
the VC
> to
> > > > > > heat up and engage. I have a set of fairly new tyres
fitted
> that
> > > > > have
> > > > > > been rotated and should be evenly worn, they look OK. I
live
> in
> > > > > > Adelaide and on a recent trip to the NSW north coast I
noticed
> > > > > the
> > > > > > binding when pulling into the supermarket carpark in a
country
> > > > > town
> > > > > > along the way. I decided to make regular stops every
couple of
> > > > > hours
> > > > > > and let the drive train cool down before continuing and
> limited
> > > > > my
> > > > > > speed to 90km/h. This is OK if you are not pressed for
time
> but I
> > > > > > know when I first bought the van I could travel at 110
km/h
> all
> > > > > day
> > > > > > on the highway and not notice any binding when pulling
into a
> > > > > > roadhouse or wayside stops. I would like to get similar
> > > > > performance
> > > > > > to when it was new. A decoupler may solve the problem but
it
> is a
> > > > > > modification and requires driver input. Originally the VC
> would
> > > > > only
> > > > > > engage when necessary and not cause any strain on the
other
> > > > > > components.
> > > > > > Les, I would like to hear your method for accurately
measuring
> > > > > the
> > > > > > wheel diameters, and I would also like to hear from
anyone who
> > > > > has
> > > > > > replaced a VC with info on where to get one and how
difficult
> it
> > > > > is
> > > > > > to fit. I am also open to the opinion that the binding is
not
> a
> > > > > bad
> > > > > > thing and any info from someone who has noticed this for a
> long
> > > > > > period and has not had any further problems as a result
would
> be
> > > > > > welcome.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Andy
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Recent Activity
> > > > > > a.. 1New Members
> > > > > > Visit Your Group
> > > > > > Health Zone
> > > > > > Look your best!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Groups to help you
> > > > > >
> > > > > > look & feel great.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yahoo! News
> > > > > > Get it all here
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Breaking news to
> > > > > >
> > > > > > entertainment news
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sell Online
> > > > > > Start selling with
> > > > > >
> > > > > > our award-winning
> > > > > >
> > > > > > e-commerce tools.
> > > > > > .
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> >
>
25
What is the dealer price?



> andrewbuchan88 <andrewbuchan88@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>
> Hi Les, Ken and phil,
> Thanks for your help with this problem, I have contacted a number of
> companies that import volkswagon parts from europe but none of them
> import the viscous couplings for T3's the main excuse being that
> there are not enough of these vehicles in australia so they don't
> think it is worth the effort. I have contacted Derek Drew in the US
> and have got heaps of information from him, he has new OEM VC's in
> stock and exports to australia. I will include some links he sent me
> so anyone interested can have a read.
>
> http://users.rcn.com/derekdrew/vanagon/viscous_couplings_vanagon_syncr
> o.htm
>
> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Syncro/message/17172
>
> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Syncro/message/24615
>
> cheers
> andy buchan
>
>
>
>
> --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Ken" <unclekenz@...>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Wow! Thanks for that Phill.
> >
> > So enlighten us.
> >
> > Go get the answer to your own question, that'd be useful.
> >
> > Ken
> >
> >
> > --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, plander@ wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > I have! They usually have a big Volkswagen sign out the front.
> > >
> > > Phill
> > >
> > >
> > > > Ken unclekenz@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I asked Tooley Imports at Waitara if they imported T3 syncro
> VC's
> > ...
> > > > they said no
> > > >
> > > > I've not yet seen anyone here or elsewhere list a local source
> of
> > new
> > > > VC's.
> > > >
> > > > Ken
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, plander@ wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Has anyone priced one in Australia?
> > > > >
> > > > > Phill
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Les Harris leslieharris@ wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Andrew,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Mike Plompen is the Belgium man:
> > > > > > http://www.busman.be/
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Another source is Bernd Jaeger:
> > > > > > http://www.syncro-bernd-jaeger.de/
> > > > > >
> > > > > > And there are several US suppliers.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Given the strength of the Australian dollar, both Europe
> and the
> > US
> > > > are
> > > > > > good deals.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > There is no doubt that a new VC is the best path. The Syncro
> > system
> > > > > > (read Steyer Puch) is extremely good and works extremely
> well.
> > The
> > > > > > reason that I went to a decoupler was that I was quite happy
> > with
> > > > the
> > > > > > more aggressive function of the VC so decided to keep it for
> > now.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I was also interested in the fuel consumption question. At
> that
> > > > time,
> > > > > > there was a lot of speculation and many wild claims on the
> > various
> > > > > > groups to the effect that running decoupled would give
> massive
> > > > > > improvements in fuel consumption. As a motor vehicle
> engineer of
> > > > some
> > > > > > experience, I had big doubts about that, so I ran a test
> over
> > 30,000
> > > > km
> > > > > > using both modes. The outcome was that I got (on identical
> > running)
> > > > 0.8
> > > > > > km per litre BETTER fuel consumption in AWD.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > One last word of warning; there are some 'reconditioned'
> VC's on
> > the
> > > > > > market about which there have been some questions as to
> whether
> > the
> > > > > > reconditioner/s actually knew what they were doing. I would
> go
> > for a
> > > > > > new one rather than a reconditioned.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Les
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: andrewbuchan88
> > > > > > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 10:02 AM
> > > > > > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Where to get a New VC?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks Les,
> > > > > > It is good to know that you can continue to drive the
> vehicle
> > > > > > normally and not cause major problems with an aggressive VC.
> > Some
> > > > > > other owners are more alarmist about this. I replaced all
> four
> > tyres
> > > > > > at once with the same size all round and have rotated them
> front
> > to
> > > > > > rear so the wear should be even but would like to check
> anyhow.
> > > > > > I think it might be cheaper to buy and fit a reconditioned
> VC
> > rather
> > > > > > than a decoupler.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > andy buchan
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Les Harris"
> > > > > > leslieharris@ wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Andy,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Like everything else, the VC wears with use. Mine has
> > > > > > been 'binding' / 'aggressive' since I bought the vehicle
> and my
> > > > > > coping strategy is to use a decoupler. If it gets
> considerably
> > > > > > worse, I will look at replacing the VC. Yes, it is nice to
> have
> > new
> > > > > > vehicle function but that always comes at a cost.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Regarding highway travel, the VC is doing the least work
> when
> > > > > > travelling on the highway because there is almost zero
> > difference
> > > > > > between front and rear axle speeds but it still accumulates
> > heat.
> > > > > > Since the operation of the VC is a function of changes in
> heat
> > in
> > > > the
> > > > > > silicone fluid, you will find that it is 'binding' after a
> long
> > > > > > highway run. This is not of itself detrimental. I certainly
> > don't
> > > > > > limit my highway speed because my VC is on the aggressive
> side.
> > As I
> > > > > > have said, it has been that way since I acquired the
> vehicle and
> > was
> > > > > > a result of general, normal operational wear plus the
> original
> > owner
> > > > > > running totally different tyres front and back.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I will send the tyre measuring procedure by direct email.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Les Harris
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > From: andrewbuchan88
> > > > > > > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 8:42 PM
> > > > > > > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Where to get a New VC?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks for your replies,
> > > > > > > I am aware that differences in tyre diameter will cause
> the VC
> > to
> > > > > > > heat up and engage. I have a set of fairly new tyres
> fitted
> > that
> > > > > > have
> > > > > > > been rotated and should be evenly worn, they look OK. I
> live
> > in
> > > > > > > Adelaide and on a recent trip to the NSW north coast I
> noticed
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > binding when pulling into the supermarket carpark in a
> country
> > > > > > town
> > > > > > > along the way. I decided to make regular stops every
> couple of
> > > > > > hours
> > > > > > > and let the drive train cool down before continuing and
> > limited
> > > > > > my
> > > > > > > speed to 90km/h. This is OK if you are not pressed for
> time
> > but I
> > > > > > > know when I first bought the van I could travel at 110
> km/h
> > all
> > > > > > day
> > > > > > > on the highway and not notice any binding when pulling
> into a
> > > > > > > roadhouse or wayside stops. I would like to get similar
> > > > > > performance
> > > > > > > to when it was new. A decoupler may solve the problem but
> it
> > is a
> > > > > > > modification and requires driver input. Originally the VC
> > would
> > > > > > only
> > > > > > > engage when necessary and not cause any strain on the
> other
> > > > > > > components.
> > > > > > > Les, I would like to hear your method for accurately
> measuring
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > wheel diameters, and I would also like to hear from
> anyone who
> > > > > > has
> > > > > > > replaced a VC with info on where to get one and how
> difficult
> > it
> > > > > > is
> > > > > > > to fit. I am also open to the opinion that the binding is
> not
> > a
> > > > > > bad
> > > > > > > thing and any info from someone who has noticed this for a
> > long
> > > > > > > period and has not had any further problems as a result
> would
> > be
> > > > > > > welcome.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Andy
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Recent Activity
> > > > > > > a.. 1New Members
> > > > > > > Visit Your Group
> > > > > > > Health Zone
> > > > > > > Look your best!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Groups to help you
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > look & feel great.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Yahoo! News
> > > > > > > Get it all here
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Breaking news to
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > entertainment news
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Sell Online
> > > > > > > Start selling with
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > our award-winning
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > e-commerce tools.
> > > > > > > .
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> >
26

Hi Andrew

 

I know i am a bit late, i have been away,  have you tried Imparts (Intervolks) on main north rd , ask for Dean Hosking ,he does a lot in VW parts.

I am in also in Adelaide , are you going to the day off the VW tomorrow.

 

Regards

Alfred Andersen



----- Original Message ----
From: andrewbuchan88 <andrewbuchan88@yahoo.com.au>
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, 30 March, 2008 8:46:25 PM
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Where to get a New VC?

Hi Les, Ken and phil,
Thanks for your help with this problem, I have contacted a number of
companies that import volkswagon parts from europe but none of them
import the viscous couplings for T3's the main excuse being that
there are not enough of these vehicles in australia so they don't
think it is worth the effort. I have contacted Derek Drew in the US
and have got heaps of information from him, he has new OEM VC's in
stock and exports to australia. I will include some links he sent me
so anyone interested can have a read.

http://users. rcn.com/derekdre w/vanagon/ viscous_coupling s_vanagon_ syncr
o.htm

http://autos. groups.yahoo. com/group/ Syncro/message/ 17172

http://autos. groups.yahoo. com/group/ Syncro/message/ 24615

cheers
andy buchan

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com, "Ken" <unclekenz@. ..>
wrote:

>
>
> Wow! Thanks for that Phill.
>
> So enlighten us.
>
> Go get the answer to your own question, that'd be useful.
>
> Ken
>
>
> --- In Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com, plander@ wrote:
> >
> >
> > I have! They usually have a big Volkswagen sign out the front.
> >
> >
Phill
> >
> >
> > > Ken unclekenz@ wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > I asked Tooley Imports at Waitara if they imported T3 syncro
VC's
> ...
> > > they said no
> > >
> > > I've not yet seen anyone here or elsewhere list a local source
of
> new
> > > VC's.
> > >
> > > Ken
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com, plander@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Has anyone priced one in Australia?
> > > >
> > > > Phill
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Les Harris leslieharris@ wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Andrew,
> > > > >
> > > > > Mike Plompen is the Belgium man:
> > > > > http://www.busman. be/
> > > > >
> > > > > Another source is Bernd Jaeger:
> > > > > http://www.syncro- bernd-jaeger. de/
> > > > >
> > > > > And there are several US suppliers.
> > > > >
> > > > > Given the strength of the Australian dollar, both Europe
and the
> US
> > > are
> > > > > good deals.
> > > > >
> > > > > There is no doubt that a new VC is the best path. The Syncro
> system
> > > > > (read Steyer Puch) is extremely good and
works extremely
well.
> The
> > > > > reason that I went to a decoupler was that I was quite happy
> with
> > > the
> > > > > more aggressive function of the VC so decided to keep it for
> now.
> > > > >
> > > > > I was also interested in the fuel consumption question.. At
that
> > > time,
> > > > > there was a lot of speculation and many wild claims on the
> various
> > > > > groups to the effect that running decoupled would give
massive
> > > > > improvements in fuel consumption. As a motor vehicle
engineer of
> > > some
> > > > > experience, I had big doubts about that, so I ran a test
over
> 30,000
> > > km
> > > > > using both modes. The outcome was that I got (on identical
>
running)
> > > 0.8
> > > > > km per litre BETTER fuel consumption in AWD.
> > > > >
> > > > > One last word of warning; there are some 'reconditioned'
VC's on
> the
> > > > > market about which there have been some questions as to
whether
> the
> > > > > reconditioner/ s actually knew what they were doing. I would
go
> for a
> > > > > new one rather than a reconditioned.
> > > > >
> > > > > Les
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: andrewbuchan88
> > > > > To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
> > > > > Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 10:02 AM
> > > > > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australi a] Re: Where to get a New VC?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks Les,
> > > > > It is good to know that you can continue to drive the
vehicle
> > > > > normally and not cause major problems with an aggressive VC.
> Some
> > > > > other owners are more alarmist about this. I replaced all
four
> tyres
> > > > > at once with the same size all round and have rotated them
front
> to
> > > > > rear so the wear should be even but would like to check
anyhow.
> > > > > I think it might be cheaper to buy and fit a reconditioned
VC
> rather
> > > > > than a decoupler.
> > > > >
> > > > > andy
buchan
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com, "Les Harris"
> > > > > leslieharris@ wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Andy,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Like everything else, the VC wears with use. Mine has
> > > > > been 'binding' / 'aggressive' since I bought the vehicle
and my
> > > > > coping strategy is to use a decoupler. If it gets
considerably
> > > > > worse, I will look at replacing the VC. Yes, it is nice to
have
> new
> > > > > vehicle function but that always comes at a cost.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Regarding highway
travel, the VC is doing the least work
when
> > > > > travelling on the highway because there is almost zero
> difference
> > > > > between front and rear axle speeds but it still accumulates
> heat.
> > > > > Since the operation of the VC is a function of changes in
heat
> in
> > > the
> > > > > silicone fluid, you will find that it is 'binding' after a
long
> > > > > highway run. This is not of itself detrimental. I certainly
> don't
> > > > > limit my highway speed because my VC is on the aggressive
side.
> As I
> > > > > have said, it has been that way since I acquired the
vehicle and
> was
> > > > > a result of general, normal operational wear plus the
original
> owner
> > > > > running totally different tyres
front and back.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I will send the tyre measuring procedure by direct email.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Les Harris
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: andrewbuchan88
> > > > > > To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
> > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 8:42 PM
> > > > > > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australi a] Re: Where to get a New VC?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks for your replies,
> > > > > > I am aware that differences in tyre diameter will cause
the VC
> to
> > > > > > heat up and engage. I have a set of fairly new tyres
fitted
> that
> > > > > have
> > > > > > been rotated and should be evenly worn, they look OK. I
live
> in
> > > > > > Adelaide and on a recent trip to the NSW north coast I
noticed
> > > > > the
> > > > > > binding when pulling into the supermarket carpark in a
country
> > > > > town
> > > > > > along the way. I decided to make regular stops every
couple of
> > > > > hours
> > > > > > and let the drive train cool down before continuing and
> limited
> > > > > my
> > > > > > speed to 90km/h. This is OK if you are not pressed for
time
> but I
> > > > > > know when I first
bought the van I could travel at 110
km/h
> all
> > > > > day
> > > > > > on the highway and not notice any binding when pulling
into a
> > > > > > roadhouse or wayside stops. I would like to get similar
> > > > > performance
> > > > > > to when it was new. A decoupler may solve the problem but
it
> is a
> > > > > > modification and requires driver input. Originally the VC
> would
> > > > > only
> > > > > > engage when necessary and not cause any strain on the
other
> > > > > > components.
> > > > > > Les, I would like to hear your method for accurately
measuring
> > > > > the
> > > > > > wheel diameters, and I would also like to hear from
anyone who
> > > > > has
> > > > > > replaced a VC with info on where to get one and how
difficult
> it
> > > > > is
> > > > > > to fit. I am also open to the opinion that the binding is
not
> a
> > > > > bad
> > > > > > thing and any info from someone who has noticed this for a
> long
> > > > > > period and has not had any further problems as a result
would
> be
> > > > > > welcome.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Andy
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Recent Activity
> > > > > > a.. 1New Members
> > > > > > Visit Your Group
> > > > > > Health Zone
> > > > > > Look your best!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Groups to help you
> > > > > >
> > > > > > look & feel great.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yahoo! News
> > > > > > Get it all here
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Breaking news to
> > > > > >
> > > > > > entertainment news
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sell Online
> > > > > > Start selling with
> > > > > >
> > > > > > our award-winning
> > > > > >
> > > > > > e-commerce tools.
> > > > > > .
> > > > > >
> > > > >
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Hi Alfred,
I tried imparts and they did not know where they could get a new VC
and said they weren't interested in importing a one off item like it.
I have contacted Derek Drew in the USA and he has some in stock and
will ship to australia.
I presume you mean the VW gathering at Glenelg. I didn't know it was
on but saw it as I was going past on the way to the Footy but didn't
have time to stop for a look.
cheers
andy



--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, alf ando <dansk53bus@...>
wrote:
>
> Hi Andrew
>
> I know i am a bit late, i have been away, have you tried Imparts
(Intervolks) on main north rd , ask for Dean Hosking ,he does a lot
in VW parts.
> I am in also in Adelaide , are you going to the day off the VW
tomorrow.
>
> Regards
> Alfred Andersen
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: andrewbuchan88 <andrewbuchan88@...>
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, 30 March, 2008 8:46:25 PM
> Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Where to get a New VC?
>
> Hi Les, Ken and phil,
> Thanks for your help with this problem, I have contacted a number
of
> companies that import volkswagon parts from europe but none of them
> import the viscous couplings for T3's the main excuse being that
> there are not enough of these vehicles in australia so they don't
> think it is worth the effort. I have contacted Derek Drew in the US
> and have got heaps of information from him, he has new OEM VC's in
> stock and exports to australia. I will include some links he sent
me
> so anyone interested can have a read.
>
> http://users. rcn.com/derekdre w/vanagon/ viscous_coupling
s_vanagon_ syncr
> o.htm
>
> http://autos. groups.yahoo. com/group/ Syncro/message/ 17172
>
> http://autos. groups.yahoo. com/group/ Syncro/message/ 24615
>
> cheers
> andy buchan
>
> --- In Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com, "Ken" <unclekenz@ ..>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Wow! Thanks for that Phill.
> >
> > So enlighten us.
> >
> > Go get the answer to your own question, that'd be useful.
> >
> > Ken
> >
> >
> > --- In Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com, plander@ wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > I have! They usually have a big Volkswagen sign out the front.
> > >
> > > Phill
> > >
> > >
> > > > Ken unclekenz@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I asked Tooley Imports at Waitara if they imported T3 syncro
> VC's
> > ...
> > > > they said no
> > > >
> > > > I've not yet seen anyone here or elsewhere list a local
source
> of
> > new
> > > > VC's.
> > > >
> > > > Ken
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com, plander@ wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Has anyone priced one in Australia?
> > > > >
> > > > > Phill
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Les Harris leslieharris@ wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Andrew,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Mike Plompen is the Belgium man:
> > > > > > http://www.busman. be/
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Another source is Bernd Jaeger:
> > > > > > http://www.syncro- bernd-jaeger. de/
> > > > > >
> > > > > > And there are several US suppliers.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Given the strength of the Australian dollar, both Europe
> and the
> > US
> > > > are
> > > > > > good deals.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > There is no doubt that a new VC is the best path. The
Syncro
> > system
> > > > > > (read Steyer Puch) is extremely good and works extremely
> well.
> > The
> > > > > > reason that I went to a decoupler was that I was quite
happy
> > with
> > > > the
> > > > > > more aggressive function of the VC so decided to keep it
for
> > now.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I was also interested in the fuel consumption question.
At
> that
> > > > time,
> > > > > > there was a lot of speculation and many wild claims on the
> > various
> > > > > > groups to the effect that running decoupled would give
> massive
> > > > > > improvements in fuel consumption. As a motor vehicle
> engineer of
> > > > some
> > > > > > experience, I had big doubts about that, so I ran a test
> over
> > 30,000
> > > > km
> > > > > > using both modes. The outcome was that I got (on identical
> > running)
> > > > 0.8
> > > > > > km per litre BETTER fuel consumption in AWD.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > One last word of warning; there are some 'reconditioned'
> VC's on
> > the
> > > > > > market about which there have been some questions as to
> whether
> > the
> > > > > > reconditioner/ s actually knew what they were doing. I
would
> go
> > for a
> > > > > > new one rather than a reconditioned.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Les
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: andrewbuchan88
> > > > > > To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
> > > > > > Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 10:02 AM
> > > > > > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australi a] Re: Where to get a New VC?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks Les,
> > > > > > It is good to know that you can continue to drive the
> vehicle
> > > > > > normally and not cause major problems with an aggressive
VC.
> > Some
> > > > > > other owners are more alarmist about this. I replaced all
> four
> > tyres
> > > > > > at once with the same size all round and have rotated
them
> front
> > to
> > > > > > rear so the wear should be even but would like to check
> anyhow.
> > > > > > I think it might be cheaper to buy and fit a
reconditioned
> VC
> > rather
> > > > > > than a decoupler.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > andy buchan
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com, "Les Harris"
> > > > > > leslieharris@ wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Andy,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Like everything else, the VC wears with use. Mine has
> > > > > > been 'binding' / 'aggressive' since I bought the vehicle
> and my
> > > > > > coping strategy is to use a decoupler. If it gets
> considerably
> > > > > > worse, I will look at replacing the VC. Yes, it is nice
to
> have
> > new
> > > > > > vehicle function but that always comes at a cost.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Regarding highway travel, the VC is doing the least
work
> when
> > > > > > travelling on the highway because there is almost zero
> > difference
> > > > > > between front and rear axle speeds but it still
accumulates
> > heat.
> > > > > > Since the operation of the VC is a function of changes in
> heat
> > in
> > > > the
> > > > > > silicone fluid, you will find that it is 'binding' after
a
> long
> > > > > > highway run. This is not of itself detrimental. I
certainly
> > don't
> > > > > > limit my highway speed because my VC is on the aggressive
> side.
> > As I
> > > > > > have said, it has been that way since I acquired the
> vehicle and
> > was
> > > > > > a result of general, normal operational wear plus the
> original
> > owner
> > > > > > running totally different tyres front and back.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I will send the tyre measuring procedure by direct
email.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Les Harris
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > From: andrewbuchan88
> > > > > > > To: Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com
> > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 8:42 PM
> > > > > > > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australi a] Re: Where to get a New
VC?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks for your replies,
> > > > > > > I am aware that differences in tyre diameter will cause
> the VC
> > to
> > > > > > > heat up and engage. I have a set of fairly new tyres
> fitted
> > that
> > > > > > have
> > > > > > > been rotated and should be evenly worn, they look OK. I
> live
> > in
> > > > > > > Adelaide and on a recent trip to the NSW north coast I
> noticed
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > binding when pulling into the supermarket carpark in a
> country
> > > > > > town
> > > > > > > along the way. I decided to make regular stops every
> couple of
> > > > > > hours
> > > > > > > and let the drive train cool down before continuing and
> > limited
> > > > > > my
> > > > > > > speed to 90km/h. This is OK if you are not pressed for
> time
> > but I
> > > > > > > know when I first bought the van I could travel at 110
> km/h
> > all
> > > > > > day
> > > > > > > on the highway and not notice any binding when pulling
> into a
> > > > > > > roadhouse or wayside stops. I would like to get similar
> > > > > > performance
> > > > > > > to when it was new. A decoupler may solve the problem
but
> it
> > is a
> > > > > > > modification and requires driver input. Originally the
VC
> > would
> > > > > > only
> > > > > > > engage when necessary and not cause any strain on the
> other
> > > > > > > components.
> > > > > > > Les, I would like to hear your method for accurately
> measuring
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > wheel diameters, and I would also like to hear from
> anyone who
> > > > > > has
> > > > > > > replaced a VC with info on where to get one and how
> difficult
> > it
> > > > > > is
> > > > > > > to fit. I am also open to the opinion that the binding
is
> not
> > a
> > > > > > bad
> > > > > > > thing and any info from someone who has noticed this
for a
> > long
> > > > > > > period and has not had any further problems as a result
> would
> > be
> > > > > > > welcome.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Andy
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Andrew,
 
Footy?  Ahead of your Syncro?  Poor lad, you must have lost your grip on reality!!  Next time, forget the footy and concentrate on keeping your Syncro in good condition and on the road.  Footy will be around forever but Syncros are becoming more and more rare.  You are more than lucky to even own one!
 
I think that we might have reached the point where you ring me and we try to get to some basic level about your Syncro and your problems.
 
Les
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 6:06 PM
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Where to get a New VC?

Hi Alfred,
I tried imparts and they did not know where they could get a new VC
and said they weren't interested in importing a one off item like it.
I have contacted Derek Drew in the USA and he has some in stock and
will ship to australia.
I presume you mean the VW gathering at Glenelg. I didn't know it was
on but saw it as I was going past on the way to the Footy but didn't
have time to stop for a look.
cheers
andy

.

29
Hi Les,
You're right, I got my priorities wrong, won't happen again. At least
my team won.

I am not driving my Syncro at the moment until I replace the VC. When
that is done I'll have to get the rear diff lock working, I bet lots
of people have trouble with them too.

cheers
andy



--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Les Harris"
<leslieharris@...> wrote:
>
> Andrew,
>
> Footy? Ahead of your Syncro? Poor lad, you must have lost your
grip on reality!! Next time, forget the footy and concentrate on
keeping your Syncro in good condition and on the road. Footy will be
around forever but Syncros are becoming more and more rare. You are
more than lucky to even own one!
>
> I think that we might have reached the point where you ring me and
we try to get to some basic level about your Syncro and your problems.
>
> Les
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: andrewbuchan88
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 6:06 PM
> Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Where to get a New VC?
>
>
> Hi Alfred,
> I tried imparts and they did not know where they could get a new
VC
> and said they weren't interested in importing a one off item like
it.
> I have contacted Derek Drew in the USA and he has some in stock
and
> will ship to australia.
> I presume you mean the VW gathering at Glenelg. I didn't know it
was
> on but saw it as I was going past on the way to the Footy but
didn't
> have time to stop for a look.
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Andy,
 
Back to Square 1.  What is wrong with your VC?
 
Les
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2008 5:42 PM
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Where to get a New VC?

Hi Les,
You're right, I got my priorities wrong, won't happen again. At least
my team won.

I am not driving my Syncro at the moment until I replace the VC. When
that is done I'll have to get the rear diff lock working, I bet lots
of people have trouble with them too.

cheers
andy

.

31
Hi Les,
After a period of driving at highway speeds, if I do a sharp turn i.e.
pulling into a car park, doing a u-turn, or backing into my driveway
(which requires full lock) it feels as though my handbrake is on and
when I put my foot on the clutch the van comes to an abrupt stop. The
rolling resistance is normal with the steering wheels straight ahead.
From what I have read on this forum and others, I believe this is a
sign that the fluid in my VC is thickening up at too low a
temperature and engaging 4WD when not required which if happening on
bitumen can cause major damage to other components in the drivetrain.
It seems there are a number of remedies, i.e. replacing the VC,
fitting a decoupler etc. and a number of opinions as to which is
best. I think I would prefer to replace the VC. Maybe it doesn't need
it yet but I would rather do something about it before other problems
arise.
cheers
andy








--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Les Harris"
<leslieharris@...> wrote:
>
> Andy,
>
> Back to Square 1. What is wrong with your VC?
>
> Les
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: andrewbuchan88
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2008 5:42 PM
> Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Where to get a New VC?
>
>
> Hi Les,
> You're right, I got my priorities wrong, won't happen again. At
least
> my team won.
>
> I am not driving my Syncro at the moment until I replace the VC.
When
> that is done I'll have to get the rear diff lock working, I bet
lots
> of people have trouble with them too.
>
> cheers
> andy
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Andrew,
 
What you have described is a VC that is engaging earlier than a brand new VC.  As you have established by observation, after driving at freeway speeds, you are experiencing earlier engagement of the VC.  This is due to the fact that the fluid in the VC is temperature responsive.  Since there is always drive through the VC, even with the front wheels running in the straight ahead position, heat builds up in the front diff, which promotes the earlier engagement.
 
This in turn leads to binding, via the earlier engagement, when you come off the freeway and do a full lock parking manoeuvre.  So long as you keep to a minimum speed when doing the full lock manoeuvre, this will not damage the drive train.  An alternative is to take two bites at the parking.  The conditions you describe are what I experienced with my Syncro when I bought it and I used moderation in parking to reduce the load on the drive line.  I subsequently fitted a decoupler to obviate the problem.  It will be quite a long time before I need to replace the VC and I will enjoy the benefits of an aggressive VC in the meanwhile.
 
As I have stated many times before, an aggressive VC actually has advantages in terms of traction, steering and braking.  the negative component is binding when parking.
 
As a motor vehicle engineer of some experience, I can assure you that every production motor vehicle in the world is a combination of compromises designed to achieve an outcome.  The drive line of the Syncro is a set of compromises that is more successful then most and the outcome in a wide variety of driving conditions is truly excellent.  This, of course, implies a new or near new VC.
 
But, parts wear and so do the VCs on our Syncros.  Fortunately, the wear promotes earlier engagement in most cases which has its own advantages but just one disadvantage.
 
Ideally, the new condition VC is the very best situation.  Since you will not provoke damage unless you regularly attempt high power setting full lock turns, you will not exacerbate anything.
 
The preferential order of solutions is clearly a new VC as number one and an aggressive VC plus decoupler as number two.  Intelligent driving will give you a lot of service before you have to decide on a preference.
 
Les
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 6:18 PM
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Where to get a New VC?

Hi Les,
After a period of driving at highway speeds, if I do a sharp turn i.e.
pulling into a car park, doing a u-turn, or backing into my driveway
(which requires full lock) it feels as though my handbrake is on and
when I put my foot on the clutch the van comes to an abrupt stop. The
rolling resistance is normal with the steering wheels straight ahead.
From what I have read on this forum and others, I believe this is a
sign that the fluid in my VC is thickening up at too low a
temperature and engaging 4WD when not required which if happening on
bitumen can cause major damage to other components in the drivetrain.
It seems there are a number of remedies, i.e. replacing the VC,
fitting a decoupler etc. and a number of opinions as to which is
best. I think I would prefer to replace the VC. Maybe it doesn't need
it yet but I would rather do something about it before other problems
arise.
cheers
andy

.

33
That doesn't sound abnormal to me. You will have to do the off the ground test to check it.

Phill



> Les Harris <leslieharris@optushome.com.au> wrote:
>
> Andrew,
>
> What you have described is a VC that is engaging earlier than a brand
> new VC. As you have established by observation, after driving at
> freeway speeds, you are experiencing earlier engagement of the VC. This
> is due to the fact that the fluid in the VC is temperature responsive.
> Since there is always drive through the VC, even with the front wheels
> running in the straight ahead position, heat builds up in the front
> diff, which promotes the earlier engagement.
>
> This in turn leads to binding, via the earlier engagement, when you come
> off the freeway and do a full lock parking manoeuvre. So long as you
> keep to a minimum speed when doing the full lock manoeuvre, this will
> not damage the drive train. An alternative is to take two bites at the
> parking. The conditions you describe are what I experienced with my
> Syncro when I bought it and I used moderation in parking to reduce the
> load on the drive line. I subsequently fitted a decoupler to obviate
> the problem. It will be quite a long time before I need to replace the
> VC and I will enjoy the benefits of an aggressive VC in the meanwhile.
>
> As I have stated many times before, an aggressive VC actually has
> advantages in terms of traction, steering and braking. the negative
> component is binding when parking.
>
> As a motor vehicle engineer of some experience, I can assure you that
> every production motor vehicle in the world is a combination of
> compromises designed to achieve an outcome. The drive line of the
> Syncro is a set of compromises that is more successful then most and the
> outcome in a wide variety of driving conditions is truly excellent.
> This, of course, implies a new or near new VC.
>
> But, parts wear and so do the VCs on our Syncros. Fortunately, the wear
> promotes earlier engagement in most cases which has its own advantages
> but just one disadvantage.
>
> Ideally, the new condition VC is the very best situation. Since you
> will not provoke damage unless you regularly attempt high power setting
> full lock turns, you will not exacerbate anything.
>
> The preferential order of solutions is clearly a new VC as number one
> and an aggressive VC plus decoupler as number two. Intelligent driving
> will give you a lot of service before you have to decide on a
> preference.
>
> Les
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: andrewbuchan88
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 6:18 PM
> Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Where to get a New VC?
>
>
> Hi Les,
> After a period of driving at highway speeds, if I do a sharp turn i.e.
> pulling into a car park, doing a u-turn, or backing into my driveway
> (which requires full lock) it feels as though my handbrake is on and
> when I put my foot on the clutch the van comes to an abrupt stop. The
> rolling resistance is normal with the steering wheels straight ahead.
> From what I have read on this forum and others, I believe this is a
> sign that the fluid in my VC is thickening up at too low a
> temperature and engaging 4WD when not required which if happening on
> bitumen can cause major damage to other components in the drivetrain.
> It seems there are a number of remedies, i.e. replacing the VC,
> fitting a decoupler etc. and a number of opinions as to which is
> best. I think I would prefer to replace the VC. Maybe it doesn't need
> it yet but I would rather do something about it before other problems
> arise.
> cheers
> andy
>
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Hi Les,

Thanks for the information.

Where I live is 30km's from the city the last 20k's on the freeway, I
then have a tight 90 degree turn from my driveway into my garage
while the VC is still hot. This is when I notice the 'aggressive' VC
most often. It has been getting more and more noticeable over the
last 3 months. I haven't tried the off the ground test like Phill
suggests but this effect was not noticeable when I first moved here 2
years ago which indicates the VC is aging.

If a decoupler was fitted the positive benefits of an aggressive VC
that you talk about (traction,steering and braking) would only apply
when 4WD was engaged and I presume you would only do this when in
rough terrain, most of the time you would be using 2WD to avoid
putting strain on other components.

I am only using the syncro when necessary for now and treating it
carefully. I have inflated the tyres to your recommendations and will
see how it goes. I would be hesitant to head off on a long interstate
trip with it as is though and that is what I purchased the trakka for.

regards

andrew buchan




--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Les Harris"
<leslieharris@...> wrote:
>
> Andrew,
>
> What you have described is a VC that is engaging earlier than a
brand new VC. As you have established by observation, after driving
at freeway speeds, you are experiencing earlier engagement of the
VC. This is due to the fact that the fluid in the VC is temperature
responsive. Since there is always drive through the VC, even with
the front wheels running in the straight ahead position, heat builds
up in the front diff, which promotes the earlier engagement.
>
> This in turn leads to binding, via the earlier engagement, when you
come off the freeway and do a full lock parking manoeuvre. So long
as you keep to a minimum speed when doing the full lock manoeuvre,
this will not damage the drive train. An alternative is to take two
bites at the parking. The conditions you describe are what I
experienced with my Syncro when I bought it and I used moderation in
parking to reduce the load on the drive line. I subsequently fitted
a decoupler to obviate the problem. It will be quite a long time
before I need to replace the VC and I will enjoy the benefits of an
aggressive VC in the meanwhile.
>
> As I have stated many times before, an aggressive VC actually has
advantages in terms of traction, steering and braking. the negative
component is binding when parking.
>
> As a motor vehicle engineer of some experience, I can assure you
that every production motor vehicle in the world is a combination of
compromises designed to achieve an outcome. The drive line of the
Syncro is a set of compromises that is more successful then most and
the outcome in a wide variety of driving conditions is truly
excellent. This, of course, implies a new or near new VC.
>
> But, parts wear and so do the VCs on our Syncros. Fortunately, the
wear promotes earlier engagement in most cases which has its own
advantages but just one disadvantage.
>
> Ideally, the new condition VC is the very best situation. Since
you will not provoke damage unless you regularly attempt high power
setting full lock turns, you will not exacerbate anything.
>
> The preferential order of solutions is clearly a new VC as number
one and an aggressive VC plus decoupler as number two. Intelligent
driving will give you a lot of service before you have to decide on a
preference.
>
> Les
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: andrewbuchan88
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 6:18 PM
> Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Where to get a New VC?
>
>
> Hi Les,
> After a period of driving at highway speeds, if I do a sharp turn
i.e.
> pulling into a car park, doing a u-turn, or backing into my
driveway
> (which requires full lock) it feels as though my handbrake is on
and
> when I put my foot on the clutch the van comes to an abrupt stop.
The
> rolling resistance is normal with the steering wheels straight
ahead.
> From what I have read on this forum and others, I believe this is
a
> sign that the fluid in my VC is thickening up at too low a
> temperature and engaging 4WD when not required which if happening
on
> bitumen can cause major damage to other components in the
drivetrain.
> It seems there are a number of remedies, i.e. replacing the VC,
> fitting a decoupler etc. and a number of opinions as to which is
> best. I think I would prefer to replace the VC. Maybe it doesn't
need
> it yet but I would rather do something about it before other
problems
> arise.
> cheers
> andy
>
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 10:41 AM
Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Where to get a New VC?

Hi Les,

Thanks for the information.

Where I live is 30km's from the city the last 20k's on the freeway, I
then have a tight 90 degree turn from my driveway into my garage
while the VC is still hot.  (This is  exactly what I have been doing for years but 40k each way, with 20 k on a freeway.)   

This is when I notice the 'aggressive' VC most often. It has been getting more and more noticeable over the last 3 months. I haven't tried the off the ground test like Phill suggests but this effect was not noticeable when I first moved here 2 years ago which indicates the VC is aging.

Yes, this indicates that the VC is ageing and it has aged to the same degree that mine has.  This is NOT detrimental to the drive line so long as you do not force it by using higher than necessary power when parking.  For all other driving, it is within the range of the drive line.

If a decoupler was fitted the positive benefits of an aggressive VC
that you talk about (traction,steering and braking) would only apply
when 4WD was engaged and I presume you would only do this when in
rough terrain, most of the time you would be using 2WD to avoid
putting strain on other components.

No, quite the reverse.  I run in 4WD all the time to gain the very noticeable benefits of traction, steering, handling and braking, and I am talking about dry roads.  In the wet, these qualities are even more apparent.  I decouple to back out of my drive (full lock), straighten up, engage 4WD and drive away.  It stays in 4WD until I do the next full lock turn, then goes back into 4WD.  The drive line is MORE than capable of coping with an aggressive VC in all normal driving.

I am only using the Syncro when necessary for now and treating it
carefully. I have inflated the tyres to your recommendations and will
see how it goes. I would be hesitant to head off on a long interstate
trip with it as is though and that is what I purchased the Trakka for.

You can drive around Australia today on an aggressive VC.  The VC does the least work when running straight and the most when a wheel starts to spin or on a full lock turn on a hard grippy surface, like a supermarket car park and probably your driveway. 

The reason that it gets hot after freeway driving is because it makes a permanent drive input to the front diff at all times.  The heat accumulation is the same heat accumulation that happens in your gearbox and your engine. 

On gravel road driving, the VC will do what the VC does best - constantly compensate for speed differences between the axles.  This is not putting unnecessary stress on the drive line; the drive line was designed to do exactly this.

regards

andrew buchan

--- In Syncro_T3_Australia @yahoogroups. com, "Les Harris"
<leslieharris@ ...> wrote:
>
>

.

36
Andy,
Are all of your wheels and tyres the same? Do you check the tread depth regularly?
Phill


> andrewbuchan88 <andrewbuchan88@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>
> Hi Les,
>
> Thanks for the information.
>
> Where I live is 30km's from the city the last 20k's on the freeway, I
> then have a tight 90 degree turn from my driveway into my garage
> while the VC is still hot. This is when I notice the 'aggressive' VC
> most often. It has been getting more and more noticeable over the
> last 3 months. I haven't tried the off the ground test like Phill
> suggests but this effect was not noticeable when I first moved here 2
> years ago which indicates the VC is aging.
>
> If a decoupler was fitted the positive benefits of an aggressive VC
> that you talk about (traction,steering and braking) would only apply
> when 4WD was engaged and I presume you would only do this when in
> rough terrain, most of the time you would be using 2WD to avoid
> putting strain on other components.
>
> I am only using the syncro when necessary for now and treating it
> carefully. I have inflated the tyres to your recommendations and will
> see how it goes. I would be hesitant to head off on a long interstate
> trip with it as is though and that is what I purchased the trakka for.
>
> regards
>
> andrew buchan
>
>
>
>
> --- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Les Harris"
> <leslieharris@...> wrote:
> >
> > Andrew,
> >
> > What you have described is a VC that is engaging earlier than a
> brand new VC. As you have established by observation, after driving
> at freeway speeds, you are experiencing earlier engagement of the
> VC. This is due to the fact that the fluid in the VC is temperature
> responsive. Since there is always drive through the VC, even with
> the front wheels running in the straight ahead position, heat builds
> up in the front diff, which promotes the earlier engagement.
> >
> > This in turn leads to binding, via the earlier engagement, when you
> come off the freeway and do a full lock parking manoeuvre. So long
> as you keep to a minimum speed when doing the full lock manoeuvre,
> this will not damage the drive train. An alternative is to take two
> bites at the parking. The conditions you describe are what I
> experienced with my Syncro when I bought it and I used moderation in
> parking to reduce the load on the drive line. I subsequently fitted
> a decoupler to obviate the problem. It will be quite a long time
> before I need to replace the VC and I will enjoy the benefits of an
> aggressive VC in the meanwhile.
> >
> > As I have stated many times before, an aggressive VC actually has
> advantages in terms of traction, steering and braking. the negative
> component is binding when parking.
> >
> > As a motor vehicle engineer of some experience, I can assure you
> that every production motor vehicle in the world is a combination of
> compromises designed to achieve an outcome. The drive line of the
> Syncro is a set of compromises that is more successful then most and
> the outcome in a wide variety of driving conditions is truly
> excellent. This, of course, implies a new or near new VC.
> >
> > But, parts wear and so do the VCs on our Syncros. Fortunately, the
> wear promotes earlier engagement in most cases which has its own
> advantages but just one disadvantage.
> >
> > Ideally, the new condition VC is the very best situation. Since
> you will not provoke damage unless you regularly attempt high power
> setting full lock turns, you will not exacerbate anything.
> >
> > The preferential order of solutions is clearly a new VC as number
> one and an aggressive VC plus decoupler as number two. Intelligent
> driving will give you a lot of service before you have to decide on a
> preference.
> >
> > Les
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: andrewbuchan88
> > To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 6:18 PM
> > Subject: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Where to get a New VC?
> >
> >
> > Hi Les,
> > After a period of driving at highway speeds, if I do a sharp turn
> i.e.
> > pulling into a car park, doing a u-turn, or backing into my
> driveway
> > (which requires full lock) it feels as though my handbrake is on
> and
> > when I put my foot on the clutch the van comes to an abrupt stop.
> The
> > rolling resistance is normal with the steering wheels straight
> ahead.
> > From what I have read on this forum and others, I believe this is
> a
> > sign that the fluid in my VC is thickening up at too low a
> > temperature and engaging 4WD when not required which if happening
> on
> > bitumen can cause major damage to other components in the
> drivetrain.
> > It seems there are a number of remedies, i.e. replacing the VC,
> > fitting a decoupler etc. and a number of opinions as to which is
> > best. I think I would prefer to replace the VC. Maybe it doesn't
> need
> > it yet but I would rather do something about it before other
> problems
> > arise.
> > cheers
> > andy
> >
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I think that sent Andy the process for the accurate measurement of the tyres.
 
Les
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 8:21 PM
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Where to get a New VC?

Andy,
Are all of your wheels and tyres the same? Do you check the tread depth regularly?
Phill

> andrewbuchan88 <andrewbuchan88@ yahoo.com. au> wrote:
>
> Hi Les,
>
> Thanks for the information.
>
> Where I live is 30km's from the city the last 20k's on the freeway, I
> then have a tight 90 degree turn from my driveway into my garage
> while the VC is still hot. This is when I notice the 'aggressive' VC
> most often. It has been getting more and more noticeable over the
> last 3 months. I haven't tried the off the ground test like Phill
> suggests but this effect was not noticeable when I first moved here 2
> years ago which indicates the VC is aging.
>
> If a decoupler was fitted the positive benefits of an aggressive VC
> that you talk about (traction,steering and braking) would only apply
> when 4WD was engaged and I presume you would only do this when in
> rough terrain, most of the time you would be using 2WD to avoid
> putting strain on other components.
>
> I am only using the syncro when necessary for now and treating it
> carefully. I have inflated the tyres to your recommendations and will
> see how it goes. I would be hesitant to head off on a long interstate
> trip with it as is though and that is what I purchased the trakka for.
>
> regards
>
> andrew buchan
>
>
>

.

38
Hi Les and Phill,
Les did send me the method for measuring the tyres but I haven't done
it yet. I did put a chalk mark at the bottom of all four tyres and
drove straight ahead slowly for about 20 metres and then checked the
position again. The rear left wheel was out slightly so my next step
is to follow Les's procedure to see how much difference there is
exactly.
cheers
andy





--- In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, "Les Harris"
<leslieharris@...> wrote:
>
> I think that sent Andy the process for the accurate measurement of
the tyres.
>
> Les
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: plander@...
> To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 8:21 PM
> Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Re: Where to get a New VC?
>
>
> Andy,
> Are all of your wheels and tyres the same? Do you check the tread
depth regularly?
> Phill
>
> > andrewbuchan88 <andrewbuchan88@...> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Les,
> >
> > Thanks for the information.
> >
> > Where I live is 30km's from the city the last 20k's on the
freeway, I
> > then have a tight 90 degree turn from my driveway into my
garage
> > while the VC is still hot. This is when I notice
the 'aggressive' VC
> > most often. It has been getting more and more noticeable over
the
> > last 3 months. I haven't tried the off the ground test like
Phill
> > suggests but this effect was not noticeable when I first moved
here 2
> > years ago which indicates the VC is aging.
> >
> > If a decoupler was fitted the positive benefits of an
aggressive VC
> > that you talk about (traction,steering and braking) would only
apply
> > when 4WD was engaged and I presume you would only do this when
in
> > rough terrain, most of the time you would be using 2WD to avoid
> > putting strain on other components.
> >
> > I am only using the syncro when necessary for now and treating
it
> > carefully. I have inflated the tyres to your recommendations
and will
> > see how it goes. I would be hesitant to head off on a long
interstate
> > trip with it as is though and that is what I purchased the
trakka for.
> >
> > regards
> >
> > andrew buchan
> >
> >
> >
>
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