Winch

1
Dear All,
Just a share, because some months ago I fitted a WARN8000 WINCH to the front of my original SYNCRO.

Doing this has made me feel that there is not much else that I can do to get myself out of trouble in the wild.

Problem is, I have only ever been in trouble in my back paddock after 4 inches of rain, when bogged by soapy clay.   Anyway, now with a decoupler, diff locks both ends, and now the winch, I have now made the SYNCRO very a useful implement. 

Inspiration came from a Syncronaughts E-mail back in 2014. 
Unfortunately a computer crash with total loss of correspondence means there is less in this E-mail than I could have originally supplied.

I bought the mounting bracket from Garry Lee at  wrack.com, in Canada, the winch from ARB, I installed it, and John from Wiredautolek in Windsor did the electrics for me.

One thing I learnt early, something the salesman at ARB hinted at it, is that you cannot in NSW do a winch installation like you see in this, one of Gay's photos. 
Consult the NSW regs about things protruding from the vehicle, like this, rod holders, etc,  and road safety. 


 
So fortunately having an original bull bar in place, I took a risk.
As you can see, the Fairlead rollers still protrude about an inch out from the front of the bar.
So I made myself an unusable Fairlead from flat 10mm aluminium plate, which If I get caught out, I can ask the officer to hang in while I get my spanner and my decorative fairlead from the “boot” and avoid a defect notice.   
Haven’t been caught yet, but might be if I take out a pedestrian, in which case it will be too late.

After holding a licence for nearly 23,725 days, and not taking out a pedestrian yet, I’m hoping the odds are in my favour.


Protruding Fairlead              Decorative Fairlead 10 mm thick 

The winch in place: 


Not an easy job.

Gary Lee’s instructions leave a lot to be desired.

I got it to within 5 mm of being just right.

Best advice I can give:
You need to remove the Bull Bar first.
You need drills long enough to go vertically through the horizontal structural member behind the Bull Bar.
I used long 3mm drills to pilot my holes using Gary’s bracket to find the position.
Made and fitted to the thin drill bits a cylindrical piece of aluminium, just a little smaller in diameter of the holes in the bracket.  
This gave me the centre of each hole. 
Had to use a dimensionally small battery drill to avoid the drill being pushed off centre by the body work.
Once I had the holes right through from top and bottom of the member, I was able to use a larger drill, and with some holes, come up from the bottom.  

The Winch:
I chose a WARN8000, because I felt that I was buying quality and parts if ever needed. 
It is also very powerful, but uses a lot of power when under load. 
The auxiliary battery is under the front passenger's seat.
I already had a dual battery charging setup.

Hope this piece is at least interesting, or otherwise helpful.

Peter


2
Why not just change to a hawse and Dynamica ? Greg

Sent from Greg's iPhone

On 13 Oct 2017, at 4:04 pm, Peter SCHWEINSBERG peter@peterandval.com [Syncro_T3_Australia] <Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Dear All,

Just a share, because some months ago I fitted a WARN8000 WINCH to the front of my original SYNCRO.

Doing this has made me feel that there is not much else that I can do to get myself out of trouble in the wild.

Problem is, I have only ever been in trouble in my back paddock after 4 inches of rain, when bogged by soapy clay.   Anyway, now with a decoupler, diff locks both ends, and now the winch, I have now made the SYNCRO very a useful implement. 

Inspiration came from a Syncronaughts E-mail back in 2014. 
Unfortunately a computer crash with total loss of correspondence means there is less in this E-mail than I could have originally supplied.

I bought the mounting bracket from Garry Lee at  wrack.com, in Canada, the winch from ARB, I installed it, and John from Wiredautolek in Windsor did the electrics for me.

One thing I learnt early, something the salesman at ARB hinted at it, is that you cannot in NSW do a winch installation like you see in this, one of Gay's photos. 
Consult the NSW regs about things protruding from the vehicle, like this, rod holders, etc,  and road safety. 

<uc880ubx.jpg>

 
So fortunately having an original bull bar in place, I took a risk.
As you can see, the Fairlead rollers still protrude about an inch out from the front of the bar.
So I made myself an unusable Fairlead from flat 10mm aluminium plate, which If I get caught out, I can ask the officer to hang in while I get my spanner and my decorative fairlead from the “boot” and avoid a defect notice.   
Haven’t been caught yet, but might be if I take out a pedestrian, in which case it will be too late.

After holding a licence for nearly 23,725 days, and not taking out a pedestrian yet, I’m hoping the odds are in my favour.

<DSCN2035 s.jpg><DSCN2037 s.jpg>

Protruding Fairlead              Decorative Fairlead 10 mm thick 

The winch in place: 

<SYNCRO with WARN 8000 winch..jpg>

Not an easy job.

Gary Lee’s instructions leave a lot to be desired.

I got it to within 5 mm of being just right.

Best advice I can give:
You need to remove the Bull Bar first.
You need drills long enough to go vertically through the horizontal structural member behind the Bull Bar.
I used long 3mm drills to pilot my holes using Gary’s bracket to find the position..
Made and fitted to the thin drill bits a cylindrical piece of aluminium, just a little smaller in diameter of the holes in the bracket.  
This gave me the centre of each hole. 
Had to use a dimensionally small battery drill to avoid the drill being pushed off centre by the body work.
Once I had the holes right through from top and bottom of the member, I was able to use a larger drill, and with some holes, come up from the bottom.  

The Winch:
I chose a WARN8000, because I felt that I was buying quality and parts if ever needed. 
It is also very powerful, but uses a lot of power when under load. 
The auxiliary battery is under the front passenger's seat.
I already had a dual battery charging setup.

Hope this piece is at least interesting, or otherwise helpful.

Peter


3

Looks nice Peter, and adds piece of mind if you get stuck. Not sure on NSW regulations, but the protruding issues can be debatable. Depending on the person certifying it, the bull bars like yours (and many of us have) are treated as protruding, so already an issue. Other certifiers who do not question the bull bar would look at the protrusion as anything past the bull bar. In this case, the top of your bar is further forward than the winch.... Anyway, it's up to the person concerned and if you are in an accident how police and insurance companies view it.


On the getting out in the wild needs, I still remember well when I finally had my T2 fully setup and feeling invincible after quite a few off road jaunts with no issues, got bogged in my brothers back yard after some rain!! Was a soft patch of clay after a lot of rain, drove all around the block with no issues, hit this one patch and sank straight to the chassis. Was on my own, no amount of digging or letting tires down helped, even if I had a winch, was nothing to attach it to. After a few hours, abandoned the bus until I could get a tow out..... Lesson learnt!!


Richard



---In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, <peter@...> wrote :

Dear All,
Just a share, because some months ago I fitted a WARN8000 WINCH to the front of my original SYNCRO.

Doing this has made me feel that there is not much else that I can do to get myself out of trouble in the wild.

Problem is, I have only ever been in trouble in my back paddock after 4 inches of rain, when bogged by soapy clay.   Anyway, now with a decoupler, diff locks both ends, and now the winch, I have now made the SYNCRO very a useful implement. 

Inspiration came from a Syncronaughts E-mail back in 2014. 
Unfortunately a computer crash with total loss of correspondence means there is less in this E-mail than I could have originally supplied.

I bought the mounting bracket from Garry Lee at  wrack.com, in Canada, the winch from ARB, I installed it, and John from Wiredautolek in Windsor did the electrics for me.

One thing I learnt early, something the salesman at ARB hinted at it, is that you cannot in NSW do a winch installation like you see in this, one of Gay's photos. 
Consult the NSW regs about things protruding from the vehicle, like this, rod holders, etc,  and road safety. 


 
So fortunately having an original bull bar in place, I took a risk.
As you can see, the Fairlead rollers still protrude about an inch out from the front of the bar.
So I made myself an unusable Fairlead from flat 10mm aluminium plate, which If I get caught out, I can ask the officer to hang in while I get my spanner and my decorative fairlead from the “boot” and avoid a defect notice.   
Haven’t been caught yet, but might be if I take out a pedestrian, in which case it will be too late.

After holding a licence for nearly 23,725 days, and not taking out a pedestrian yet, I’m hoping the odds are in my favour.


Protruding Fairlead              Decorative Fairlead 10 mm thick 

The winch in place: 


Not an easy job.

Gary Lee’s instructions leave a lot to be desired.

I got it to within 5 mm of being just right.

Best advice I can give:
You need to remove the Bull Bar first.
You need drills long enough to go vertically through the horizontal structural member behind the Bull Bar.
I used long 3mm drills to pilot my holes using Gary’s bracket to find the position.
Made and fitted to the thin drill bits a cylindrical piece of aluminium, just a little smaller in diameter of the holes in the bracket.  
This gave me the centre of each hole. 
Had to use a dimensionally small battery drill to avoid the drill being pushed off centre by the body work.
Once I had the holes right through from top and bottom of the member, I was able to use a larger drill, and with some holes, come up from the bottom.  

The Winch:
I chose a WARN8000, because I felt that I was buying quality and parts if ever needed. 
It is also very powerful, but uses a lot of power when under load. 
The auxiliary battery is under the front passenger's seat.
I already had a dual battery charging setup.

Hope this piece is at least interesting, or otherwise helpful.

Peter


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Dear Greg,

Have a significant length of that too.
Sorry that I did not mention it.
Nice product, very strong but not yet as strong as spider’s web,
if only they could make a rope out of spider’s web..


Question:
If you are stuck, 
wheels digging themselves in, 
You have no mobile “tractor” to attach the Dyneema product to,
and the tide is coming in,
what do you do ?

The Dynamica enables me to reach further along or up the beach.
On it’s own, what does your length of Dynamica do for you ?    

Peter



On 13 Oct 2017, at 5:49 PM, gregespo73@yahoo.com [Syncro_T3_Australia] <Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Dynamica

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I don’t understand what you are saying Peter. It is my understanding that synthetic rope can do anything wire can? Warn even sell it as and accessory for their winches. Greg

Sent from Greg's iPhone

On 13 Oct 2017, at 6:15 pm, Peter SCHWEINSBERG peter@peterandval.com [Syncro_T3_Australia] <Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Dear Greg,

Have a significant length of that too.
Sorry that I did not mention it.
Nice product, very strong but not yet as strong as spider’s web,
if only they could make a rope out of spider’s web..


Question:
If you are stuck, 
wheels digging themselves in, 
You have no mobile “tractor” to attach the Dyneema product to,
and the tide is coming in,
what do you do ?

The Dynamica enables me to reach further along or up the beach.
On it’s own, what does your length of Dynamica do for you ?    

Peter



On 13 Oct 2017, at 5:49 PM, gregespo73@yahoo.com [Syncro_T3_Australia] <Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Dynamica

6

Not quite understanding Gregs post, is that using a rope instead of steel cable??

I'm no winch expert, but guess if you have a lot of extra length of cable you can use multiple pulleys, each one anchored separately into the sand (eg bury a spare tire) to spread the pulling load to a few different anchor points.

That said, if your on the beach or in sand, digging and lower tire pressure would do you more good than a winch.

Richard

7
Its very common to remove the steel cable from the spool and use a pre spliced synthetic rope instead. This rope is built for the purpose and is significantly lighter and easier to handle. It also gives you the ability to run a hawse which is much flatter than a fairlead.


From: "cathrich1@yahoo.com.au [Syncro_T3_Australia]" <Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com>
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, 13 October 2017, 18:45
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Winch

 
Not quite understanding Gregs post, is that using a rope instead of steel cable??
I'm no winch expert, but guess if you have a lot of extra length of cable you can use multiple pulleys, each one anchored separately into the sand (eg bury a spare tire) to spread the pulling load to a few different anchor points.
That said, if your on the beach or in sand, digging and lower tire pressure would do you more good than a winch.
Richard


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From: "Greg Esposito gregespo73@yahoo.com [Syncro_T3_Australia]" <Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com>
To: "Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com" <Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, 13 October 2017, 18:51
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Winch

 
Its very common to remove the steel cable from the spool and use a pre spliced synthetic rope instead. This rope is built for the purpose and is significantly lighter and easier to handle. It also gives you the ability to run a hawse which is much flatter than a fairlead.


From: "cathrich1@yahoo.com.au [Syncro_T3_Australia]" <Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com>
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, 13 October 2017, 18:45
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Winch

 
Not quite understanding Gregs post, is that using a rope instead of steel cable??
I'm no winch expert, but guess if you have a lot of extra length of cable you can use multiple pulleys, each one anchored separately into the sand (eg bury a spare tire) to spread the pulling load to a few different anchor points.
That said, if your on the beach or in sand, digging and lower tire pressure would do you more good than a winch.
Richard




9
Looks great Peter.

Does it cause any warmer running temps?

Looks very strong - do you need to cut much of your bull-bar away?

Any process photos?

Thanks,

Skot

On 13/10/2017 4:04 PM, Peter SCHWEINSBERG peter@peterandval.com [Syncro_T3_Australia] wrote:

Dear All,

Just a share, because some months ago I fitted a WARN8000 WINCH to the front of my original SYNCRO.

Doing this has made me feel that there is not much else that I can do to get myself out of trouble in the wild.

Problem is, I have only ever been in trouble in my back paddock after 4 inches of rain, when bogged by soapy clay. Anyway, now with a decoupler, diff locks both ends, and now the winch, I have now made the SYNCRO very a useful implement.

Inspiration came from a Syncronaughts E-mail back in 2014.
Unfortunately a computer crash with total loss of correspondence means there is less in this E-mail than I could have originally supplied.

I bought the mounting bracket from Garry Lee at wrack.com, in Canada, the winch from ARB, I installed it, and John from Wiredautolek in Windsor did the electrics for me.

One thing I learnt early, something the salesman at ARB hinted at it, is that you cannot in NSW do a winch installation like you see in this, one of Gay's photos.
Consult the NSW regs about things protruding from the vehicle, like this, rod holders, etc, and road safety.


So fortunately having an original bull bar in place, I took a risk.
As you can see, the Fairlead rollers still protrude about an inch out from the front of the bar.
So I made myself an unusable Fairlead from flat 10mm aluminium plate, which If I get caught out, I can ask the officer to hang in while I get my spanner and my decorative fairlead from the “boot” and avoid a defect notice.
Haven’t been caught yet, but might be if I take out a pedestrian, in which case it will be too late.

After holding a licence for nearly 23,725 days, and not taking out a pedestrian yet, I’m hoping the odds are in my favour.


Protruding Fairlead Decorative Fairlead 10 mm thick

The winch in place:


Not an easy job.

Gary Lee’s instructions leave a lot to be desired.

I got it to within 5 mm of being just right.

Best advice I can give:
You need to remove the Bull Bar first.
You need drills long enough to go vertically through the horizontal structural member behind the Bull Bar.
I used long 3mm drills to pilot my holes using Gary’s bracket to find the position.
Made and fitted to the thin drill bits a cylindrical piece of aluminium, just a little smaller in diameter of the holes in the bracket.
This gave me the centre of each hole.
Had to use a dimensionally small battery drill to avoid the drill being pushed off centre by the body work.
Once I had the holes right through from top and bottom of the member, I was able to use a larger drill, and with some holes, come up from the bottom.

The Winch:
I chose a WARN8000, because I felt that I was buying quality and parts if ever needed.
It is also very powerful, but uses a lot of power when under load.
The auxiliary battery is under the front passenger's seat.
I already had a dual battery charging setup.

Hope this piece is at least interesting, or otherwise helpful.

Peter



--
Best regards, Scott Pitcher SPB Consulting
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Hi Scott,

On the subject of;
Temperature:
I’ve seen no observable change.
That doesn’t mean that next time I’m in 45 deg C and working the engine, it won’t be experienced.
My engine has always been cool when cruising, but 40+ days, serious hill climbing and slow, heavy traffic all make the system work. 
Even before I fitted the WINCH, one 40+ day, out near Cobar, at the time cruising, it had had me concerned.
All I did was slow down, and that gave the system a break.

Cutting away the Bull Bar: 
Yes a small amount in the top surface and there were a couple of spacer blocks underneath that surface which were in the way. I replaced the spacers with packing on the bracket bolts.

Process Photos:
Sorry, none left,  because of the computer crash, but this one is still hanging around, it is one of positioning the bracket before drilling.


This next one is important, it is a pic of the package Gary sent the bracket kit in.
Gary sent it by post, but the dimensions of the package he wanted to send was too large (long) for Australia Post. I don’t know why, but as sent it was great. 

I used Australia Post’s “ShopMate” service which i was already signed up for.
Gary sent the parcel from Canada to ShopMate’s address in Oregon, USA.
From there it was on forwarded to my Post Office.
This picture is how it came:



Peter



On 13 Oct 2017, at 8:23 PM, Scott Pitcher spbconsulting@bigpond.com [Syncro_T3_Australia] <Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com> wrote:



Looks great Peter.

Does it cause any warmer running temps?

Looks very strong - do you need to cut much of your bull-bar away?

Any process photos?

Thanks,

Skot

On 13/10/2017 4:04 PM, Peter SCHWEINSBERG peter@peterandval.com [Syncro_T3_Australia] wrote:

Dear All,

Just a share, because some months ago I fitted a WARN8000 WINCH to the front of my original SYNCRO.

Doing this has made me feel that there is not much else that I can do to get myself out of trouble in the wild.

Problem is, I have only ever been in trouble in my back paddock after 4 inches of rain, when bogged by soapy clay.   Anyway, now with a decoupler, diff locks both ends, and now the winch, I have now made the SYNCRO very a useful implement. 

Inspiration came from a Syncronaughts E-mail back in 2014. 
Unfortunately a computer crash with total loss of correspondence means there is less in this E-mail than I could have originally supplied.

I bought the mounting bracket from Garry Lee at  wrack.com, in Canada, the winch from ARB, I installed it, and John from Wiredautolek in Windsor did the electrics for me.

One thing I learnt early, something the salesman at ARB hinted at it, is that you cannot in NSW do a winch installation like you see in this, one of Gay's photos. 
Consult the NSW regs about things protruding from the vehicle, like this, rod holders, etc,  and road safety. 

<uc880ubx.jpg>

 
So fortunately having an original bull bar in place, I took a risk.
As you can see, the Fairlead rollers still protrude about an inch out from the front of the bar.
So I made myself an unusable Fairlead from flat 10mm aluminium plate, which If I get caught out, I can ask the officer to hang in while I get my spanner and my decorative fairlead from the “boot” and avoid a defect notice.   
Haven’t been caught yet, but might be if I take out a pedestrian, in which case it will be too late.

After holding a licence for nearly 23,725 days, and not taking out a pedestrian yet, I’m hoping the odds are in my favour.

<DSCN2035 s.jpg><DSCN2037 s.jpg>

Protruding Fairlead              Decorative Fairlead 10 mm thick 

The winch in place: 

<SYNCRO with WARN 8000 winch.jpg>

Not an easy job.

Gary Lee’s instructions leave a lot to be desired.

I got it to within 5 mm of being just right.

Best advice I can give:
You need to remove the Bull Bar first.
You need drills long enough to go vertically through the horizontal structural member behind the Bull Bar.
I used long 3mm drills to pilot my holes using Gary’s bracket to find the position.
Made and fitted to the thin drill bits a cylindrical piece of aluminium, just a little smaller in diameter of the holes in the bracket.  
This gave me the centre of each hole. 
Had to use a dimensionally small battery drill to avoid the drill being pushed off centre by the body work.
Once I had the holes right through from top and bottom of the member, I was able to use a larger drill, and with some holes, come up from the bottom.  

The Winch:
I chose a WARN8000, because I felt that I was buying quality and parts if ever needed. 
It is also very powerful, but uses a lot of power when under load. 
The auxiliary battery is under the front passenger's seat.
I already had a dual battery charging setup.

Hope this piece is at least interesting, or otherwise helpful.

Peter



-- 
Best regards, Scott Pitcher SPB Consulting



11
Appreciate your comment Greg.
I was offered either, but while talking about uses it was suggested that I use wire.
We live on an acreage, and one of the jobs I wanted for it was: dragging a rake through the dam, hence wire.
Peter




On 13 Oct 2017, at 6:59 PM, Greg Esposito gregespo73@yahoo.com [Syncro_T3_Australia] <Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com> wrote:



From: "Greg Esposito gregespo73@yahoo.com [Syncro_T3_Australia]" <Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com>
To: "Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com" <Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com> 
Sent: Friday, 13 October 2017, 18:51
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Winch

Its very common to remove the steel cable from the spool and use a pre spliced synthetic rope instead. This rope is built for the purpose and is significantly lighter and easier to handle. It also gives you the ability to run a hawse which is much flatter than a fairlead.


From: "cathrich1@yahoo.com.au [Syncro_T3_Australia]" <Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com>
To: Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Friday, 13 October 2017, 18:45
Subject: Re: [Syncro_T3_Australia] Winch

 
Not quite understanding Gregs post, is that using a rope instead of steel cable??
I'm no winch expert, but guess if you have a lot of extra length of cable you can use multiple pulleys, each one anchored separately into the sand (eg bury a spare tire) to spread the pulling load to a few different anchor points.
That said, if your on the beach or in sand, digging and lower tire pressure would do you more good than a winch.
Richard







12
Hi Richard,
An interesting point on the REGs.

Fortunately there is some comfort in the fact that this bull bar was fitted from new, and the REGs are much more recent. 
 
REGs say that all vehicles should be fitted with seat belts, but then vehicles sold before the REGs are exempt. 
On the subject of seat belts:
One of my fleet is a Singer 4ADT, 4 seat sports car of the fifties, sold before the REGs. 
When it was my every day car, I fitted it with full harnesses, but only for the front seats. 
I am glad the I did, because one day a fellow made a RH turn in front of me and bang.
The harness stressed my ribs but fortunately I was not impaled on the steering column.

I also have a mid 50s Vanden Plas Princess. 
It did not have seat belts until my youngest son, probably about four years old at the time, expressed concern.
I had a friend who specialized in coach built vehicle restoration of the time fit a full set for me.  

I don’t believe that we need an engineer’s certificate for OE bull bars.

Peter 





On 13 Oct 2017, at 6:14 PM, cathrich1@yahoo.com.au [Syncro_T3_Australia] <Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com> wrote:



Looks nice Peter, and adds piece of mind if you get stuck. Not sure on NSW regulations, but the protruding issues can be debatable. Depending on the person certifying it, the bull bars like yours (and many of us have) are treated as protruding, so already an issue. Other certifiers who do not question the bull bar would look at the protrusion as anything past the bull bar. In this case, the top of your bar is further forward than the winch.... Anyway, it's up to the person concerned and if you are in an accident how police and insurance companies view it. 


On the getting out in the wild needs, I still remember well when I finally had my T2 fully setup and feeling invincible after quite a few off road jaunts with no issues, got bogged in my brothers back yard after some rain!! Was a soft patch of clay after a lot of rain, drove all around the block with no issues, hit this one patch and sank straight to the chassis. Was on my own, no amount of digging or letting tires down helped, even if I had a winch, was nothing to attach it to. After a few hours, abandoned the bus until I could get a tow out..... Lesson learnt!!


Richard



---In Syncro_T3_Australia@yahoogroups.com, <peter@...> wrote :

Dear All,
Just a share, because some months ago I fitted a WARN8000 WINCH to the front of my original SYNCRO.

Doing this has made me feel that there is not much else that I can do to get myself out of trouble in the wild.

Problem is, I have only ever been in trouble in my back paddock after 4 inches of rain, when bogged by soapy clay.   Anyway, now with a decoupler, diff locks both ends, and now the winch, I have now made the SYNCRO very a useful implement. 

Inspiration came from a Syncronaughts E-mail back in 2014. 
Unfortunately a computer crash with total loss of correspondence means there is less in this E-mail than I could have originally supplied.

I bought the mounting bracket from Garry Lee at  wrack.com, in Canada, the winch from ARB, I installed it, and John from Wiredautolek in Windsor did the electrics for me.

One thing I learnt early, something the salesman at ARB hinted at it, is that you cannot in NSW do a winch installation like you see in this, one of Gay's photos. 
Consult the NSW regs about things protruding from the vehicle, like this, rod holders, etc,  and road safety. 


 
So fortunately having an original bull bar in place, I took a risk.
As you can see, the Fairlead rollers still protrude about an inch out from the front of the bar.
So I made myself an unusable Fairlead from flat 10mm aluminium plate, which If I get caught out, I can ask the officer to hang in while I get my spanner and my decorative fairlead from the “boot” and avoid a defect notice.   
Haven’t been caught yet, but might be if I take out a pedestrian, in which case it will be too late.

After holding a licence for nearly 23,725 days, and not taking out a pedestrian yet, I’m hoping the odds are in my favour.


Protruding Fairlead              Decorative Fairlead 10 mm thick 

The winch in place: 


Not an easy job.

Gary Lee’s instructions leave a lot to be desired.

I got it to within 5 mm of being just right.

Best advice I can give:
You need to remove the Bull Bar first.
You need drills long enough to go vertically through the horizontal structural member behind the Bull Bar.
I used long 3mm drills to pilot my holes using Gary’s bracket to find the position.
Made and fitted to the thin drill bits a cylindrical piece of aluminium, just a little smaller in diameter of the holes in the bracket.  
This gave me the centre of each hole. 
Had to use a dimensionally small battery drill to avoid the drill being pushed off centre by the body work.
Once I had the holes right through from top and bottom of the member, I was able to use a larger drill, and with some holes, come up from the bottom.  

The Winch:
I chose a WARN8000, because I felt that I was buying quality and parts if ever needed. 
It is also very powerful, but uses a lot of power when under load. 
The auxiliary battery is under the front passenger's seat.
I already had a dual battery charging setup.

Hope this piece is at least interesting, or otherwise helpful.

Peter